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A52055 Smectymnuus redivivus Being an answer to a book, entituled, An humble remonstrance. In which, the original of liturgy episcopacy is discussed, and quæries propounded concerning both. The parity of bishops and presbyters in scripture demonstrated. The occasion of the imparity in antiquity discovered. The disparity of the ancient and our moderne bishops manifested. The antiquity of ruling elders in the church vindicated. The prelaticall church bounded. Smectymnuus.; Marshall, Stephen, 1594?-1655.; Calamy, Edmund, 1600-1666.; Young, Thomas, 1587-1655.; Newcomen, Matthew, 1610?-1669.; Spurstowe, William, 1605?-1666. 1654 (1654) Wing M784; ESTC R223740 77,642 91

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shall_v confute_v his_o own_o proposition_n whereas_o therefore_o s._n jerome_n say_v that_o after_o man_n begin_v to_o say_v i_o be_o of_o paul_n and_o i_o of_o apollo_n etc._n etc._n it_o be_v decree_v that_o one_o of_o the_o presbyter_n shall_v be_v set_v over_o the_o rest_n etc._n etc._n this_o be_v speak_v indeed_o in_o the_o apostle_n phrase_n but_o not_o of_o the_o apostle_n time_n else_o to_o what_o purpose_n be_v that_o coacervation_n of_o text_n that_o follow_v but_o suppose_v it_o shall_v be_v grant_v to_o be_v of_o apostolical_a antiquity_n which_o yet_o we_o grant_v not_o have_v prove_v the_o contrary_a yet_o it_o appear_v it_o be_v not_o of_o apostolical_a intention_n but_o of_o diabolical_a occasion_n and_o though_o the_o devil_n by_o kindle_v division_n in_o the_o church_n do_v minister_v occasion_n to_o the_o invention_n of_o the_o primacy_n or_o prelacy_n or_o one_o for_o the_o suppress_n of_o schism_n yet_o there_o be_v just_a cause_n to_o think_v that_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n in_o his_o apostle_n be_v never_o the_o author_n of_o this_o invention_n first_o because_o we_o read_v in_o the_o apostle_n day_n there_o be_v division_n rom._n 16.7_o and_o schism_n 1_o cor._n 3.3_o and_o 11.18_o yet_o the_o apostle_n be_v not_o direct_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o ordain_v bishop_n for_o the_o take_v away_o of_o those_o division_n neither_o in_o the_o rule_v he_o prescribe_v for_o the_o heal_n of_o those_o breach_n do_v he_o mention_v bishop_n for_o that_o end_n nor_o in_o the_o direction_n give_v to_o timothy_n and_o titus_n for_o the_o ordination_n of_o bishop_n or_o elder_n do_v he_o mention_v this_o as_o one_o end_n of_o their_o ordination_n or_o one_o peculiar_a duty_n of_o their_o office_n and_o though_o the_o apostle_n say_v oportet_fw-la haereses_fw-la inter_fw-la vos_fw-la esse_fw-la ut_fw-la qui_fw-la probati_fw-la sunt_fw-la manifesti_fw-la fiant_fw-la inter_fw-la vos_fw-la yet_o the_o apostle_n no_o where_o say_v oportet_fw-la episcopos_fw-la esse_fw-la ut_fw-la tollantur_fw-la haereses_fw-la quae_fw-la manifestae_fw-la fiunt_fw-la second_o because_o as_o doctor_n whitaker_n say_v the_o remedy_n devise_v have_v prove_v worse_a than_o the_o disease_n which_o do_v never_o happen_v to_o that_o remedy_n whereof_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v the_o author_n three_o because_o the_o holy_a ghost_n who_o can_v foresee_v what_o will_v
canon_n we_o have_v the_o unanimous_a vote_n of_o two_o hundred_o and_o fourteen_o bishop_n declare_v that_o the_o power_n of_o ordination_n be_v in_o the_o hand_n of_o presbyter_n as_o well_o as_o bishop_n tim._n and_o whereas_o it_o may_v be_v object_v that_o hierome_n and_o chrysostome_n affirm_v bishop_n to_o differ_v from_o presbyter_n in_o the_o power_n of_o ordination_n seem_v to_o imply_v that_o that_o power_n be_v sole_o they_o here_o we_o desire_v it_o may_v be_v observe_v first_o that_o these_o father_n put_v all_o the_o difference_n that_o lie_v between_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n to_o be_v in_o point_n of_o ordination_n quid_fw-la facit_fw-la episcopus_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la facit_fw-la presbyter_n exceptá_fw-la ordinatione_fw-la and_o therefore_o chrysostome_n himself_o confess_v that_o in_o his_o day_n there_o be_v little_a or_o no_o difference_n between_o a_o bishop_n and_o a_o presbyter_n inter_fw-la episcopum_fw-la &_o presbyterum_fw-la interest_n fermè_fw-la nihil_fw-la etc._n etc._n tim_n second_o that_o this_o difference_n be_v not_o so_o to_o he_o understand_v as_o if_o these_o father_n do_v hold_v it_o to_o be_v by_o divine_a right_n as_o bellarmin_n and_o our_o episcopal_a man_n will_v make_v we_o believe_v but_o by_o a_o humane_a constitution_n and_o therefore_o they_o do_v not_o speak_v de_fw-fr jure_fw-la but_o de_fw-la facto_fw-la ordinibus_fw-la quid_fw-la facit_fw-la etc._n etc._n not_o quid_fw-la debet_fw-la facere_fw-la and_o this_o hierom_n confess_v so_o leo_fw-la prim_fw-la ep_n 88_o upon_o complaint_n of_o unlawful_a ordination_n write_v to_o the_o german_a and_o french_a bishop_n reckon_v up_o what_o thing_n be_v reserve_v to_o the_o bishop_n among_o which_o he_o set_v down_o presbyterorum_fw-la &_o diaconorum_fw-la consecratio_fw-la and_o then_o add_v sacerdoti_fw-la quae_fw-la omne_fw-la solis_fw-la deberi_fw-la summis_fw-la pontificibus_fw-la authoritate_fw-la canonam_fw-la praecipitur_fw-la so_o that_o for_o this_o power_n of_o ordination_n they_o be_v more_o beholden_a to_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o church_n then_o to_o the_o canon_n of_o god_n word_n three_o we_o answer_v that_o this_o very_a humane_a difference_n be_v not_o in_o the_o primitive_a antiquity_n it_o be_v not_o so_o in_o cyprian_n time_n as_o we_o even_o now_o show_v and_o when_o it_o do_v prevail_v it_o be_v but_o a_o particular_a custom_n and_o sometime_o usurpation_n of_o some_o church_n for_o it_o be_v otherwise_o appoint_v in_o the_o council_n of_o carthage_n and_o in_o egypt_n and_o other_o place_n as_o be_v declare_v in_o the_o former_a part_n of_o this_o section_n and_o even_o in_o chrysostom_n time_n it_o be_v so_o little_o approve_v of_o that_o it_o be_v one_o great_a accusation_n against_o chrysostome_n himself_o that_o he_o make_v ordination_n without_o the_o presbytery_n and_o without_o the_o consent_n of_o his_o clergy_n this_o be_v quote_v by_o bishop_n downam_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 8._o pag._n 176._o sect_n ix_o 28._o no●_n have_v the_o bishop_n of_o former_a time_n more_o right_a to_o the_o power_n of_o sole_a jurisdiction_n then_o of_o sole_a ordination_n and_o here_o we_o have_v confitentem_fw-la reum_fw-la our_o very_a adversary_n confess_v the_o vote_n of_o antiquity_n be_v with_o we_o cyprian_n profess_v that_o he_o will_v do_v nothing_o without_o the_o clergy_n 97._o nay_o he_o can_v do_v nothing_o without_o they_o nay_o he_o dare_v not_o take_v upon_o he_o alone_o to_o determine_v that_o which_o of_o right_n do_v belong_v to_o all_o and_o have_v he_o or_o any_o other_o do_v so_o the_o four_o council_n of_o carthage_n condemn_v the_o sentence_n of_o the_o bishop_n as_o irritanisi_fw-la clericorum_fw-la sententiâ_fw-la confirmetur_fw-la will_v you_o know_v the_o particular_n wherein_o the_o bishop_n have_v no_o power_n of_o judicature_n without_o their_o presbyter_n first_o in_o judge_v and_o censure_v presbyter_n themselves_o and_o their_o doctrine_n 6._o for_o this_o the_o canon_n law_n in_o gratian_n be_v full_a and_o clear_a episcopus_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la judicare_fw-la presbyterum_fw-la vel_fw-la diaconum_fw-la sine_fw-la synodo_fw-la &_o senioribus_fw-la thus_o basill_n counsel_v and_o practise_v epist_n 75._o so_o ambr._n lib._n 10._o epist_n 80._o cyril_n in_o epist_n ad_fw-la johannem_fw-la antiochen_n thus_o gregory_n ad_fw-la johan._n panor_n mitan_fw-mi lib._n 11._o epist_n 49._o second_o in_o judge_v of_o the_o conversation_n or_o crime_n of_o any_o of_o the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n 7._o penes_fw-la presbyteros_fw-la est_fw-la disciplina_fw-la quae_fw-la facit_fw-la homines_fw-la meliores_fw-la that_o discipline_n that_o work_v emendation_n in_o man_n be_v in_o the_o power_n of_o the_o elder_n and_o therefore_o when_o any_o be_v question_v in_o point_n of_o conversation_n he_o be_v bring_v say_v tertullian_n into_o the_o congregation_n where_o be_v exhortation_n castigation_n and_o divine_a censure_n gent._n and_o who_o have_v the_o chief_a stroke_n in_o these_o censure_n he_o tell_v we_o after_o precedent_n probati_fw-la quique_fw-la seniores_fw-la all_o the_o approve_a elder_n sit_v as_o precedent_n and_o those_o censure_n that_o pass_v by_o the_o whole_a presbytery_n be_v more_o approve_v by_o the_o church_n in_o ancient_a time_n than_o such_o as_o be_v pass_v by_o one_o man_n for_o we_o find_v that_o when_o syagrius_n and_o ambrose_n pass_v sentence_n in_o the_o same_o case_n the_o church_n be_v unsatisfied_a in_o the_o sentence_n of_o syagrius_n because_o he_o pass_v it_o sine_fw-la alicujus_fw-la fratris_fw-la consilio_fw-la without_o the_o counsel_n or_o consent_v of_o any_o of_o his_o brethren_n but_o be_v pacify_v with_o the_o sentence_n of_o saint_n ambrose_n because_o say_v he_o hoc_fw-la judicium_fw-la nostrum_fw-la cum_fw-la fratribus_fw-la &_o consacerdotibus_fw-la participatum_fw-la processerit_fw-la syagrium_n nor_o be_v there_o any_o kind_n of_o censure_n that_o the_o bishop_n do_v administer_v alone_o admonition_n be_v give_v by_o the_o elder_n augustine_n tell_v we_o the_o elder_n do_v admonish_v such_o as_o be_v offender_n 19_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n speak_v origen_n contra_fw-la celsum_fw-la lib._n 3._o sup_n so_o excommunication_n though_o that_o be_v the_o dreadful_a thunder_n of_o the_o church_n and_o as_o tertullian_n call_v it_o sumntum_fw-la praejudicium_fw-la futuri_fw-la judicij_fw-la the_o great_a forerunner_n of_o the_o judgement_n of_o god_n be_v never_o vibrate_v but_o by_o the_o hand_n of_o those_o that_o labour_v in_o the_o word_n and_o doctrine_n yet_o be_v no_o one_o man_n in_o the_o church_n invest_v with_o this_o power_n more_o than_o another_o therefore_o say_v demet._n hierom_n presbytero_fw-la si_fw-la peccavero_fw-la licet_fw-la i_o tradere_fw-la satanae_fw-la in_o interitum_fw-la carnis_fw-la if_o i_o sin_n a_o presbyter_n not_o a_o bishop_n only_o may_v deliver_v i_o to_o satan_n to_o the_o destruction_n etc._n etc._n where_o the_o reader_n may_v please_v to_o take_v notice_n that_o saint_n hierom_n speak_v not_o of_o one_o particular_a presbyter_n but_o of_o the_o order_n of_o presbyter_n the_o same_o s._n hierom_n say_v again_o sunt_fw-la quos_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la reprehendit_fw-la quos_fw-la interdum_fw-la abijcit_fw-la in_fw-la quos_fw-la non_fw-la nunquam_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la &_o clericorum_fw-la censura_fw-la desaevit_fw-la there_o be_v some_o who_o the_o church_n reprove_v and_o some_o which_o she_o cast_v out_o against_o who_o the_o censure_n of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n sharp_o proceed_v where_o we_o see_v the_o censure_n whereby_o wicked_a man_n be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o in_o the_o sole_a hand_n of_o the_o bishop_n but_o likewise_o in_o the_o hand_n of_o presbyter_n syricius_n bishop_n of_o rome_n signify_v to_o the_o church_n of_o milan_n that_o jovinianus_n auxentius_n etc._n etc._n be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o church_n for_o ever_o and_o he_o set_v down_o how_o they_o do_v it_o 80._o omnium_fw-la nostrum_fw-la tam_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la quam_fw-la diacon●rum_fw-la quam_fw-la totius_fw-la etiam_fw-la cleri_fw-la sciscitata_fw-la fuit_fw-la sententia_fw-la there_o be_v a_o concurrence_n of_o all_o presbyter_n deacon_n and_o the_o whole_a clergy_n in_o that_o sentence_n of_o excommunication_n the_o truth_n herein_o may_v be_v further_o evidence_v by_o this_o because_o the_o whole_a clergy_n as_o well_o as_o the_o bishop_n impose_v hand_n upon_o such_o as_o repent_v be_v absolve_v nec_fw-la ad_fw-la communicationem_fw-la say_v cyprian_n venire_fw-la quis_fw-la possit_fw-la nisi_fw-la prius_fw-la ab_fw-la episcopo_fw-la &_o clero_fw-la manus_fw-la illi_fw-la fuerit_fw-la imposita_fw-la 12._o no_o man_n that_o have_v be_v excommunicate_v may_v return_v to_o church-communion_n delictis_fw-la before_o hand_n have_v be_v lay_v upon_o he_o by_o the_o bishop_n and_o clergy_n also_o write_v to_o his_o clergy_n concern_v lapse_v christian_n he_o tell_v they_o exomologesi_fw-la facta_fw-la &_o manu_fw-la eye_v à_fw-la vobis_fw-la in_o poenitentiam_fw-la impositâ_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o after_o confession_n and_o the_o lay_n on_o their_o hand_n they_o may_v be_v commend_v unto_o god_n so_o when_o certain_a return_v from_o their_o heresy_n be_v to_o be_v receive_v into_o the_o church_n at_o rome_n in_o the_o time_n
deprive_v excommunicate_a etc._n etc._n their_o spiritual_a power_n be_v not_o as_o dangerous_a though_o both_o be_v dangerous_a and_o as_o much_o to_o be_v oppose_v as_o their_o temporal_a 1_o because_o the_o spiritual_a be_v over_o our_o conscience_n the_o temporal_a but_o over_o our_o purse_n 2_o because_o the_o spiritual_a have_v more_o influence_n into_o god_n ordinance_n to_o defile_v they_o than_o the_o temporal_a 3_o because_o spiritual_a judgement_n and_o evil_n be_v great_a than_o other_o 4_o because_o the_o pope_n be_v antichrist_n before_o he_o do_v assume_v any_o temporal_a power_n 5_o because_o the_o spiritual_a be_v more_o inward_a and_o less_o discern_v and_o therefore_o it_o concern_v all_o those_o that_o have_v spiritual_a eye_n and_o desire_v to_o worsh●y_n god_n in_o spirit_n and_o truth_n to_o consider_v and_o endeavour_v to_o 〈…〉_z spiritual_a usurpation_n as_o well_o as_o their_o temporal_a whether_o a●rius_n be_v just_o brand_v by_o epiphanius_n and_o austin_n 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