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A65699 A discourse concerning the idolatry of the Church of Rome wherein that charge is justified, and the pretended refutation of Dr. Stillingfleet's discourse is answered / by Daniel Whitby ... Whitby, Daniel, 1638-1726.; Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. 1674 (1674) Wing W1722; ESTC R34745 260,055 369

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consilii_fw-la angelus_n &_o per_fw-la incarnationis_fw-la mysterium_fw-la venit_fw-la in_o mundum_fw-la stetitqae_fw-la ante_fw-la altar_n id_fw-la est_fw-la in_fw-la conspectu_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la diony_n carthus_n in_o apoc._n 8._o catholic_n doctor_n etc._n etc._n by_o this_o angel_n understand_v christ_n who_o be_v the_o angel_n of_o the_o great_a counsel_n and_o which_o by_o the_o mystery_n of_o his_o incarnation_n come_v into_o the_o world_n and_o stand_v upon_o the_o altar_n of_o the_o cross_n blasius_n 2._o blasius_n nec_fw-la vero_fw-la rectè_fw-la quidam_fw-la è_fw-la recentioribus_fw-la argumentantur_fw-la angelum_fw-la istum_fw-la christum_fw-la esse_fw-la non_fw-la posse_fw-la quod_fw-la christus_fw-la nunquam_fw-la angelus_n absolute_a dicitur_fw-la satis_fw-la enim_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la ex_fw-la consequentibus_fw-la facile_fw-la intelligi_fw-la potest_fw-la christum_fw-la esse_fw-la quae_fw-la nifi_n christ_n alteri_fw-la aptè_fw-la accommodari_fw-la non_fw-la possunt_fw-la cujus_fw-la enim_fw-la alterius_fw-la est_fw-la universae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la incensa_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la orationes_fw-la in_o thuribulo_fw-la aurto_fw-la tanta_fw-la majestatis_fw-la specie_fw-la patri_fw-la offer_n cujus_fw-la praeterquam_fw-la christi_fw-la fuit_fw-la de_fw-la igne_fw-la quo_fw-la thuribulum_n aureum_fw-la eaat_fw-mi impletum_fw-la partem_fw-la in_o terras_fw-la misisse_fw-la easque_fw-la divini_fw-la amoris_fw-la igne_fw-la inflammasse_o etc._n etc._n apuaret_fw-la autem_fw-la christus_fw-la sacerdotis_fw-la personam_fw-la gerens_fw-la ut_fw-la ejus_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la apud_fw-la patrem_fw-la intercessio_fw-la atque_fw-la interpellatio_fw-la monstretur_fw-la vieg_n in_o apoc._n 8._o sec._n 2._o viegas_n a_o jesuit_n we_o may_v easy_o perceive_v that_o this_o angel_n be_v christ_n because_o the_o thing_n here_o speak_v of_o he_o can_v agree_v to_o no_o other_o but_o christ_n for_o who_o but_o he_o can_v with_o so_o great_a majesty_n offer_v up_o to_o god_n the_o incense_n that_o be_v the_o prayer_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n who_o beside_o he_o be_v able_a out_o of_o the_o perfume_a pann_n to_o send_v down_o into_o the_o earth_n the_o fiery_a coal_n of_o divine_a charity_n and_o to_o inflame_v people_n with_o the_o burn_a grace_n of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n with_o these_o agree_n 8._o agree_n ambros_n super_fw-la apoc._n vis_fw-fr 3._o cap._n 8._o ambrose_n 2._o ambrose_n primus_fw-la in_o apoc._n 8._o biblioth_n sanct._n colon._n to_o 9_o p._n 2._o primasius_n 393._o primasius_n ansbert_n in_o apoc._n 8._o bibl._n sanct._n col._n to_o 9_o p._n 393._o authertus_n 2._o authertus_n bed_n 5._o super_fw-la apoc._n lib._n 2._o beda_n 8._o beda_n haimo_fw-it in_o apoc._n 8._o haimo_n card._n haimo_n hugo_n card._n hugo_n cardinalis_fw-la and_o the_o gloss_n christ_n gloss_n glossae_fw-la totum_fw-la legunt_fw-la hoc_fw-la de_fw-la christ_n but_o if_o it_o be_v grant_v that_o this_o angel_n be_v a_o create_v or_o 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militant_a who_o office_n it_o be_v to_o present_v the_o prayer_n and_o praise_n of_o the_o church_n to_o god_n here_o it_o be_v more_o plain_o declare_v say_v beda_n that_o the_o beast_n and_o the_o elder_n be_v the_o church_n redeem_v by_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n and_o gather_v from_o the_o nation_n also_o he_o show_v in_o what_o heaven_n they_o be_v say_v they_o shall_v reign_v upon_o earth_n so_o ambrose_n on_o the_o apcalyp_v and_o haimo_n 2._o vossius_fw-la will_v tell_v you_o that_o here_o be_v nothing_o intend_v but_o eucharistal_n prayer_n not_o petitory_a and_o that_o the_o four_o and_o twenty_o elder_n only_o intimate_v that_o the_o whole_a family_n of_o christian_n in_o earth_n and_o heaven_n do_v render_v continual_a doxology_n to_o god_n for_o the_o redemption_n of_o the_o world_n by_o his_o son_n the_o psalmist_n say_v i_o will_v sing_v unto_o thou_o in_o the_o sight_n or_o presence_n of_o the_o angel_n psal_n 137.2_o 418._o object_n p._n 418._o the_o angel_n of_o the_o lord_n say_v o_o lord_n of_o host_n how_o long_o will_v thou_o not_o have_v mercy_n on_o jerusalem_n and_o on_o the_o city_n of_o judah_n against_o which_o thou_o have_v have_v indignation_n these_o threescore_o and_o ten_o year_n and_o michael_n be_v a_o great_a prince_n which_o stand_v for_o the_o child_n of_o god_n people_n ergo_fw-la the_o angel_n know_v the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o be_v acquaint_v with_o the_o prayer_n that_o man_n in_o any_o place_n put_v up_o unto_o they_o to_o these_o objection_n i_o answer_v ha_o ha_o he_o valentianus_n answ_n valentianus_n fieri_fw-la ne_fw-la potest_fw-la ut_fw-la homo_fw-la qui_fw-la sic_fw-la ratiocinatur_fw-la homo_fw-la sit_fw-la the_o psalmist_n also_o say_v i_o will_v pay_v my_o vow_n in_o the_o presence_n of_o thy_o people_n ergo_fw-la all_o god_n people_n know_v the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n etc._n etc._n the_o fanatic_a say_v how_o long_a lord_n will_v thou_o not_o remember_v and_o have_v mercy_n upon_o the_o godly_a party_n who_o have_v be_v under_o persecution_n fourteen_o year_n ergo_fw-la the_o fanatic_n know_v the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n etc._n etc._n and_o bless_v be_v god_n king_n charles_n the_o second_o be_v a_o great_a prince_n who_o stand_v for_o his_o people_n against_o the_o whore_n of_o babylon_n he_o therefore_o know_v the_o prayer_n and_o necessity_n of_o all_o his_o people_n he_o be_v acquaint_v with_o the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o we_o may_v put_v up_o mental_a prayer_n unto_o he_o if_o t._n g._n have_v a_o estate_n worth_n beg_v he_o may_v well_o fear_v that_o his_o performance_n here_o and_o p._n 222_o 223._o will_v rob_v he_o of_o it_o chap._n vii_o the_o content_n the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n touch_v the_o invocation_n of_o the_o saint_n depart_v deliver_v from_o their_o own_o catechism_n and_o liturgy_n and_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o trent_n council_n sect._n 1._o the_o question_n state_v in_o seven_o particular_n sect._n 2._o the_o idolatry_n of_o this_o practice_n prove_v 1._o because_o it_o do_v ascribe_v unto_o they_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o of_o our_o confession_n 2._o because_o prayer_n to_o a_o absent_a be_v be_v the_o oblation_n of_o that_o worship_n to_o it_o which_o be_v proper_a to_o god_n and_o so_o be_v vow_n and_o hymn_n sect._n 3.3_o because_o the_o apostle_n give_v we_o no_o precept_n or_o example_n so_o to_o do_v sect._n 4._o the_o sequel_n of_o this_o argument_n be_v confirm_v and_o the_o objection_n answer_v sect._n 5._o and_o the_o argument_n from_o miracle_n confute_v sect._n 6._o have_v lay_v down_o these_o proposition_n let_v we_o now_o view_v the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o the_o trent_n council_n have_v deliver_v in_o these_o word_n viz._n 1._o viz._n mandate_n sancta_fw-la synodus_fw-la omnibus_fw-la episcopis_fw-la &_o clerieis_fw-la docendi_fw-la munuscurámque_fw-la sustinentibus_fw-la ut_fw-la fideles_fw-la diligenter_n instruant_fw-la docentes_fw-la eos_fw-la bonum_fw-la atque_fw-la utile_fw-la esse_fw-la suppliciter_fw-la eos_fw-la invocare_fw-la ad_fw-la eorum_fw-la orationes_fw-la opem_fw-la auxiliúmque_fw-la confugere_fw-la illos_fw-la verò_fw-la qui_fw-la negant_fw-la sanctos_fw-la aeterna_fw-la felicitate_a in_fw-la calo_fw-la fruentes_fw-la invocandos_fw-la esse_fw-la aut_fw-la qui_fw-la asserunt_fw-la eorum_fw-la ut_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la singulis_fw-la orent_fw-la invocationem_fw-la esse_fw-la idololatricam_fw-la vel_fw-la pugnare_fw-la cum_fw-la verbo_fw-la dei_fw-la adversi_fw-la ique_fw-la honori_fw-la unius_fw-la mediatoris_fw-la dei_fw-la &_o hominis_fw-la jesus_n christi_fw-la vel_fw-la stultum_fw-la esse_fw-la in_o coele_fw-la regantibus_fw-la voce_fw-la vel_fw-la ment_fw-la suppli●are_fw-la impié_fw-fr sentire_fw-la st_n quis_fw-la autem_fw-la his_fw-la decretis_fw-la contraria_fw-la docuerit_fw-la aut_fw-la senserit_fw-la anath_n ma_fw-fr sit_fw-la sess_n 25._o c._n 1._o that_o it_o be_v good_a and_o profitable_a humble_o to_o invoke_v the_o saint_n and_o fly_v unto_o their_o prayer_n and_o help_v and_o that_o whosoever_o do_v deny_v that_o saint_n who_o do_v enjoy_v eternal_a happiness_n in_o heaven_n aught_o to_o be_v invoke_v or_o do_v assert_v that_o to_o entreat_v they_o to_o pray_v for_o any_o single_a person_n be_v idolatry_n or_o be_v
august_n ibid._n they_o give_v not_o divine_a worship_n to_o they_o 2._o that_o reverence_n and_o honour_n which_o they_o oppose_v to_o this_o latria_n or_o divine_a worship_n and_o which_o they_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v due_a and_o give_v by_o they_o to_o saint_n depart_v they_o comprise_v in_o the_o forementioned_a particular_n or_o in_o such_o other_o matter_n as_o be_v and_o do_v include_v no_o formal_a prayer_n and_o no_o elicit_a action_n of_o religion_n whence_o we_o may_v rational_o conceive_v that_o neither_o prayer_n nor_o vow_n nor_o any_o action_n which_o be_v proper_o religious_a be_v then_o tender_v to_o they_o and_o that_o they_o do_v not_o think_v they_o part_n of_o that_o dulia_n which_o be_v due_a to_o saint_n 21._o contra_fw-la faustum_n lib._n 20._o c._n 21._o but_o rather_o part_n of_o that_o latria_n which_o be_v due_a to_o god_n alone_o this_o be_v apparent_a from_o st._n augustine_n answer_n unto_o faustus_n viz._n the_o worship_n therefore_o which_o we_o give_v the_o martyr_n be_v that_o worship_n of_o society_n and_o love_n which_o we_o afford_v unto_o those_o holy_a man_n who_o in_o this_o life_n we_o worship_v but_o with_o that_o worship_n which_o be_v call_v latria_n we_o worship_v god_n alone_o where_o 1_o observe_v that_o he_o ascribe_v unto_o the_o martyr_n only_o that_o worship_n which_o in_o this_o life_n we_o give_v unto_o our_o fellow_n saint_n now_o be_v it_o any_o part_n of_o that_o affection_n or_o society_n we_o bear_v unto_o the_o live_n to_o put_v up_o our_o petition_n to_o they_o when_o at_o great_a distance_n from_o we_o and_o invisible_a 2._o unto_o this_o worship_n of_o society_n and_o love_n which_o do_v not_o comprehend_v address_n make_v by_o way_n of_o prayer_n to_o person_n absent_a and_o invisible_a st._n austin_n do_v oppose_v latria_n the_o worship_n proper_a to_o god_n whence_o we_o infer_v that_o worship_n which_o can_v not_o be_v include_v in_o these_o expression_n of_o society_n and_o love_n viz._n all_o mental_a prayer_n and_o supplication_n make_v by_o speech_n to_o person_n at_o great_a distance_n and_o invisible_a must_v in_o st._n augustine_n judgement_n be_v latria_n or_o the_o worship_n proper_a unto_o god_n alone_o the_o like_a we_o may_v observe_v in_o cyril_n for_o have_v say_v we_o neither_o do_v affirm_v the_o martyr_n to_o be_v god_n nor_o do_v we_o worship_v they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d with_o latria_n but_o with_o the_o worship_n of_o honour_n and_o affection_n he_o give_v three_o instance_n of_o their_o honour_n 204._o honour_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cyril_n adv_o jul._n l._n 6._o p._n 204._o we_o give_v they_o all_o veneration_n we_o honour_v their_o sepulcher_n and_o we_o remember_v their_o resplendent_a virtue_n moreover_o the_o honour_n give_v to_o they_o seem_v therefore_o to_o be_v call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o relative_a because_o as_o basil_n note_n the_o honour_n give_v to_o the_o best_a of_o our_o fellow_n servant_n be_v the_o sign_n and_o demonstration_n of_o our_o good_a will_n and_o respect_n towards_o our_o common_a lord_n whence_o that_o of_o st._n gregory_n nyssen_n speak_v to_o the_o martyr_n theodorus_n martyr_n orat._n de_fw-fr theod._n martyr_n we_o hold_v this_o assembly_n for_o thou_o to_o adore_v our_o common_a lord_n and_o make_v full_a commemoration_n of_o thy_o victory_n so_o then_o these_o answer_n and_o objection_n which_o t._n g._n reckon_v a_o confirmation_n of_o this_o practice_n of_o invocation_n of_o the_o saint_n depart_v be_v rather_o a_o just_a prejudice_n against_o it_o it_o be_v never_o mention_v by_o they_o upon_o these_o occasion_n as_o any_o portion_n of_o that_o honour_n they_o bestow_v upon_o these_o bless_a spirit_n nor_o yet_o contain_v in_o what_o they_o mention_v second_o 10._o §._o 10._o observe_v it_o be_v the_o custom_n of_o those_o time_n to_o put_v up_o their_o petition_n at_o the_o martyr_n tomb_n and_o this_o they_o do_v for_o these_o consideration_n viz._n 1._o from_o a_o presumption_n that_o when_o the_o christian_n come_v unto_o these_o tomb_n the_o bless_a martyr_n join_v their_o supplication_n with_o they_o and_o by_o so_o do_v help_v to_o speed_v they_o whence_o basil_n in_o his_o oration_n on_o the_o 40_o martyr_n say_v together_o with_o these_o martyr_n let_v we_o pour_v forth_o our_o prayer_n for_o here_o be_v 40_o send_v up_o one_o prayer_n and_o if_o where_o two_o or_o three_o be_v gather_v together_o god_n be_v present_a who_o doubt_v his_o presence_n where_o forty_o be_v 2._o that_o their_o devotion_n may_v be_v enliven_v and_o their_o affection_n raise_v by_o the_o place_n thus_o austin_n tell_v we_o that_o 21._o that_o quod_fw-la offertur_fw-la offertur_fw-la deo_fw-la qui_fw-la martyr_n coronavit_fw-la apud_fw-la memoriam_fw-la corum_fw-la quos_fw-la coronavit_fw-la ut_fw-la ex_fw-la ipsorum_fw-la locorum_fw-la admonitione_n major_n affectus_fw-la exurgat_fw-la ●d_a acuendam_fw-la charitatem_fw-la &_o in_fw-la illos_fw-la quos_fw-la imtrari_fw-la p●ssumus_fw-la &_o in_o illum_fw-la quo_fw-la adamant_n p●ssu●us_fw-la contra_fw-la faustum_n man._n l._n 20._o c._n 21._o what_o be_v offer_v to_o god_n be_v offer_v at_o the_o memory_n of_o the_o martyr_n that_o by_o the_o admonition_n or_o remembrance_n which_o the_o very_a place_n give_v we_o a_o strong_a affection_n may_v arise_v to_o inflame_v our_o charity_n both_o towards_o those_o who_o we_o imitate_v and_o he_o by_o who_o assistance_n we_o may_v be_v enable_v to_o do_v it_o another_o custom_n of_o these_o ancient_n be_v to_o joh._n to_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cyril_n catech_n mystag_n 5._o p._n 241._o ideo_fw-la ad_fw-la ipsam_fw-la mensammon_n sic_fw-la choose_fw-la commemoramus_fw-la quemadmodum_fw-la alios_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o pace_fw-la requi●scunt_fw-la ut_fw-la etiam_fw-la pro_fw-la iis_fw-la o_fw-la emus_fw-la sed_fw-la magis_fw-la ut_fw-la ipsi_fw-la prò_fw-la nobis_fw-la orent_fw-la august_n tract_n 84._o in_o joh._n pray_v unto_o god_n 11._o §._o 11._o that_o for_o the_o intercession_n of_o those_o saint_n and_o martyr_n he_o will_v grant_v they_o their_o request_n just_a as_o the_o israelite_n do_v desire_v kindness_n for_o the_o sake_n of_o abraham_n and_o david_n and_o this_o say_v austin_n haply_o may_v be_v conceive_v that_o 16._o that_o de_fw-fr cura_fw-la pro_fw-la mortuis_fw-la cap._n 16._o they_o in_o general_a make_v address_n unto_o god_n as_o we_o do_v for_o the_o dead_a although_o we_o know_v not_o where_o they_o be_v or_o what_o they_o do_v for_o all_o the_o want_n of_o such_o as_o come_v to_o these_o assembly_n god_n may_v be_v move_v by_o their_o prayer_n to_o grant_v what_o he_o see_v needful_a for_o they_o as_o haply_o he_o be_v move_v by_o the_o fervent_a prayer_n of_o some_o relation_n distant_a from_o we_o to_o vouchsafe_v we_o blessing_n and_o by_o the_o address_n of_o some_o church_n to_o grant_v deliverance_n from_o persecution_n unto_o other_o this_o observation_n be_v a_o sufficient_a answer_n to_o many_o of_o those_o passage_n which_o t.g._n cite_v to_o prove_v it_o be_v the_o custom_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n to_o invocate_v the_o saint_n depart_v as_o v._o g._n ruffinus_n do_v relate_v of_o theodosius_n 33._o theodosius_n hist_o eccles_n l._n 2._o c._n 33._o that_o he_o go_v to_o all_o the_o place_n of_o prayer_n and_o lie_v prostrate_a before_o the_o martyr_n and_o apostle_n tomb_n he_o ask_v succour_n by_o intercession_n of_o the_o saint_n which_o upon_o supposition_n that_o they_o pray_v with_o he_o and_o do_v continual_o intercede_v for_o all_o that_o put_v up_o their_o petition_n there_o or_o for_o the_o whole_a church_n militant_a he_o may_v well_o do_v but_o than_o it_o be_v not_o intimate_v that_o he_o beg_v these_o succour_n by_o invocation_n of_o the_o saint_n we_o also_o hope_v for_o benefit_n and_o succour_v from_o the_o intercession_n of_o our_o pious_a friend_n and_o of_o the_o whole_a church_n militant_a and_o may_v entreat_v god_n to_o help_v we_o for_o the_o sake_n of_o their_o petition_n yet_o be_v not_o this_o a_o warrant_n to_o put_v up_o supplication_n to_o our_o pious_a relative_n or_o to_o the_o universal_a church_n st._n basil_n in_o his_o oration_n on_o the_o forty_o martyr_n say_v 459._o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d bas_n hom._n 20_o in_o xl._n mart._n p._n 459._o he_o that_o be_v press_v with_o affliction_n fly_v to_o they_o and_o he_o that_o be_v glad_a run_v to_o they_o the_o one_o that_o he_o may_v be_v free_v from_o his_o affliction_n the_o other_o that_o he_o may_v continue_v in_o that_o joyful_a state_n but_o then_o to_o fly_v and_o run_v unto_o they_o be_v only_o to_o fly_v and_o run_v unto_o the_o tomb_n and_o church_n where_o they_o be_v inter_v as_o be_v apparent_a from_o the_o follow_a word_n here_o it_o be_v that_o a_o woman_n pray_v for_o her_o son_n be_v hear_v and_o from_o the_o exhortation_n follow_v wherefore_o together_o with_o these_o martyr_n let_v we_o pour_v forth_o our_o
say_v he_o set_v down_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n as_o it_o stand_v record_v in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n what_o that_o council_n teach_v be_v that_o it_o be_v good_a and_o profitable_a for_o christian_n humble_o to_o invocate_v the_o saint_n and_o to_o have_v recourse_n to_o their_o prayer_n aid_n assistance_n whereby_o to_o obtain_v benefit_n of_o god_n by_o his_o son_n our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n who_o be_v our_o only_a redeemer_n and_o saviour_n these_o be_v the_o very_a word_n of_o the_o council_n and_o any_o man_n but_o of_o common_a reason_n will_v think_v it_o be_v as_o easy_a to_o prove_v snow_n to_o be_v black_a as_o so_o innocent_a a_o practice_n to_o be_v idolatry_n even_o heathen_a idolatry_n answ_n that_o the_o reader_n may_v see_v what_o disingenuity_n be_v here_o insinuate_v it_o be_v sufficient_a only_a to_o advertise_v he_o that_o we_o do_v not_o accuse_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n as_o guilty_a of_o idolatry_n for_o hold_v what_o she_o deliver_v in_o the_o word_n now_o cite_v but_o for_o hold_v what_o she_o insinuate_v in_o the_o word_n which_o follow_v and_o which_o t._n g._n thought_n most_o convenient_a to_o conceal_v viz._n that_o every_o person_n may_v pray_v unto_o they_o and_o that_o not_o only_o with_o vocal_a but_o with_o mental_a prayer_n and_o for_o enjoin_v the_o sick_a to_o pray_v with_o his_o heart_n when_o he_o can_v do_v it_o with_o his_o mouth_n o_o all_o you_o saint_n intercede_v for_o i_o and_o succour_v i_o what_o we_o teach_v say_v he_o and_o do_v in_o this_o matter_n be_v to_o desire_v the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n to_o pray_v for_o we_o as_o we_o desire_v the_o prayer_n of_o one_o another_o upon_o earth_n and_o must_v we_o for_o this_o be_v compare_v to_o heathen_n do_v we_o not_o profess_v to_o all_o the_o world_n that_o we_o look_v upon_o the_o saint_n not_o as_o god_n but_o as_o the_o friend_n and_o servant_n of_o god_n that_o be_v as_o just_a man_n who_o prayer_n therefore_o be_v available_a with_o he_o where_o then_o lie_v the_o heathenism_n where_o lie_v the_o idolatry_n answ_n it_o lie_v in_o pray_v to_o they_o with_o mental_a prayer_n and_o in_o pray_v to_o their_o when_o they_o be_v as_o distant_a as_o be_v earth_n from_o heaven_n 353._o p._n 353._o but_o say_v t._n g._n the_o question_n at_o present_a between_o dr._n stillingfleet_n and_o the_o church_n of_o of_o rome_n 353._o p._n 353._o be_v not_o whether_o divine_a worship_n be_v to_o be_v give_v to_o the_o saint_n but_o whether_o a_o inferior_a worship_n of_o the_o like_a kind_n with_o that_o which_o be_v give_v to_o holy_a man_n upon_o earth_n for_o their_o holiness_n and_o near_a relation_n to_o god_n may_v not_o be_v lawful_o give_v to_o they_o 389._o p._n 389._o now_o they_o be_v in_o heaven_n and_o again_o we_o pray_v no_o otherwise_o to_o they_o than_o we_o do_v to_o holy_a man_n upon_o earth_n though_o more_o devout_o upon_o the_o account_n of_o their_o unchangeable_a estate_n of_o bliss_n answ_n this_o he_o do_v frequent_o affirm_v but_o till_o he_o can_v produce_v some_o instance_n of_o this_o practice_n of_o pray_v only_o with_o mental_a prayer_n to_o any_o man_n alive_a or_o of_o petition_n vocal_a direct_v unto_o live_a person_n at_o so_o great_a a_o distance_n his_o affirmation_n can_v be_v no_o better_o than_o a_o manifest_a untruth_n but_o this_o be_v a_o peculiar_a topick_n of_o which_o all_o those_o who_o vain_o do_v endeavour_v to_o excuse_v this_o idol_n worship_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v force_v to_o make_v use_n of_o viz._n to_o affirm_v her_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n not_o to_o be_v what_o certain_o it_o be_v and_o thence_o conclude_v she_o not_o to_o be_v guilty_a of_o that_o crime_n which_o can_v not_o be_v deny_v without_o this_o artifice_n again_o the_o question_n between_o we_o 173._o §_o 10._o p._n 173._o say_v the_o dr._n be_v not_o how_o far_o such_o wish_n rather_o than_o prayer_n be_v think_v allowable_a be_v utter_v occasional_o as_o st._n austin_n do_v this_o in_o st._n cyprian_n but_o whether_o solemn_a invocation_n of_o saint_n in_o the_o duty_n of_o religious_a worship_n as_o it_o be_v now_o practise_v in_o the_o roman_a church_n 44●_n p._n 44●_n be_v ever_o practise_v in_o st._n augustine_n time_n here_o t._n g._n represent_v he_o as_o a_o very_a shuffler_n and_o most_o rhetorical_o cry_v out_o alas_o that_o so_o many_o learned_a man_n shall_v all_o this_o while_o have_v be_v mistake_v in_o the_o question_n that_o they_o shall_v have_v spend_v so_o much_o oil_n and_o sweat_n to_o no_o purpose_n the_o question_n hitherto_o controvert_v between_o catholic_n and_o protestant_n be_v hold_v to_o be_v whether_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o invocate_v the_o saint_n to_o pray_v for_o we_o and_o whether_o this_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a time_n but_o now_o like_o a_o mischievous_a card_n that_o will_v spoil_v the_o hand_n this_o be_v drop_v under_o the_o table_n and_o all_o the_o show_n aboveboard_n be_v whether_o it_o may_v be_v clone_o in_o the_o duty_n as_o the_o call_v they_o of_o religious_a worship_n thus_o t._n g._n as_o if_o all_o person_n that_o ever_o write_v before_o they_o must_v have_v speak_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n if_o this_o have_v be_v the_o question_n between_o t._n g._n and_o he_o or_o that_o this_o can_v not_o be_v the_o question_n if_o what_o he_o mention_n be_v another_o or_o that_o it_o be_v impossible_a that_o man_n dispute_v whether_o this_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a time_n shall_v also_o dispute_v whether_o it_o be_v the_o practice_n of_o st._n augustine_n time_n who_o know_v not_o that_o one_o medium_n to_o prove_v this_o practice_n to_o be_v lawful_a be_v that_o it_o be_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a time_n and_o that_o st._n augustine_n time_n be_v instance_a in_o as_o a_o sufficient_a confirmation_n of_o that_o grand_a assertion_n this_o be_v the_o very_a method_n of_o t._n g._n and_o these_o be_v his_o formal_a word_n this_o be_v the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o christian_a people_n in_o st._n augustine_n time_n 25._o p._n 25._o this_o he_o endeavour_v to_o confirm_v from_o that_o of_o cyprian_a and_o unto_o this_o the_o dr._n return_v this_o answer_n and_o yet_o this_o must_v not_o be_v the_o question_n betwixt_o t._n g._n and_o he_o 11._o §_o 11._o last_o the_o dr._n say_v he_o undertake_v to_o show_v out_o of_o the_o primitive_a father_n that_o it_o be_v the_o property_n of_o the_o christian_a religion_n to_o give_v divine_a worship_n to_o none_o but_o god_n and_o in_o this_o strain_n he_o run_v on_o for_o no_o less_o than_o ten_o leaf_n together_o and_o without_o ever_o prove_v that_o catholic_n do_v give_v divine_a worship_n to_o holy_a angel_n and_o saint_n he_o most_o triumphant_o conclude_v they_o to_o be_v idolater_n answ_n the_o falsehood_n of_o this_o passage_n be_v so_o exceed_o notorious_a that_o there_o be_v nothing_o requisite_a beside_o the_o use_n of_o reason_n to_o discern_v it_o for_o p._n 146_o 159._o we_o have_v this_o triumphant_a argument_n upon_o the_o same_o account_n that_o the_o heathen_a do_v give_v divine_a honour_n to_o their_o inferior_a deity_n those_o of_o the_o roman_a church_n do_v so_o to_o saint_n and_o angel_n and_o how_o unhappy_a t._n g._n be_v in_o his_o attempt_n upon_o this_o argument_n i_o have_v abundant_o evince_v again_o the_o doctor_n argue_v thus_o the_o father_n do_v express_o deny_v that_o invocation_n or_o prayer_n be_v to_o be_v make_v to_o angel_n for_o so_o origen_n 158._o p._n 158._o and_o theodoret_n speak_v express_o that_o man_n be_v not_o to_o pray_v to_o angel_n and_o any_o one_o that_o read_v st._n austin_n will_v find_v that_o he_o make_v solemn_a invocation_n to_o be_v as_o proper_a to_o god_n as_o sacrifice_n be_v 2._o on_o what_o account_n shall_v it_o be_v unlawful_a to_o sacrifice_n to_o saint_n and_o angel_n if_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o invocate_v they_o may_v not_o one_o be_v relative_a and_o transient_a as_o well_o as_o the_o other_o can_v any_o man_n in_o his_o sense_n think_v that_o a_o mere_a outward_a sacrifice_n be_v more_o acceptable_a to_o god_n than_o the_o devotion_n of_o our_o heart_n be_v thus_o the_o learned_a doctor_n and_o there_o need_v nothing_o to_o convince_v we_o of_o the_o strength_n and_o pertinency_n of_o this_o discourse_n but_o to_o reflect_v upon_o the_o vanity_n and_o weakness_n of_o what_o t._n g._n have_v venture_v to_o oppose_v against_o it_o see_n ch._n 6._o prop._n 4._o corol._n 3._o beside_o in_o vindication_n of_o the_o testimony_n of_o irenxus_n origen_n theodoret_n st._n austin_n hilary_n the_o deacon_n and_o of_o the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n i_o have_v clear_o manifest_v that_o all_o these_o father_n cite_v by_o the_o learned_a
innocent_a the_o first_o s._n austin_n and_o which_o be_v the_o current_a doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n for_o many_o hundred_o year_n i_o wave_v the_o opinion_n of_o austin_n and_o of_o innocent_a the_o first_o say_v maldonate_fw-it which_o flourish_v in_o the_o church_n six_o haundr_v year_n 116._o in_o joh._n 6._o n._n 116._o viz._n that_o the_o eucharist_n be_v necessary_a even_o for_o infant_n the_o thing_n be_v now_o unfold_v by_o the_o church_n and_o by_o the_o use_n of_o many_o age_n and_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o trent_n council_n that_o it_o be_v not_o only_o unnecessary_a for_o they_o but_o that_o it_o can_v lawful_o be_v give_v to_o they_o 2._o it_o must_v be_v false_a which_o be_v define_v by_o the_o council_n of_o florence_n and_o be_v receive_v by_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o rome_n that_o saint_n depart_v before_o the_o resurrection_n do_v see_v the_o face_n of_o god_n in_o glory_n for_o we_o have_v prove_v and_o sixtus_n senensis_n do_v acknowledge_v that_o this_o definition_n be_v 345._o bibl._n l._n 6._o an._n 345._o repugnant_a ingenti_fw-la numero_fw-la illustrium_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la patrum_fw-la 3._o hence_o it_o will_v follow_v that_o the_o trent_n catechism_n and_o all_o the_o roman_a doctor_n who_o general_o urge_v that_o of_o jacob_n the_o angel_n that_o redeem_v i_o from_o all_o evil_a bless_v the_o lad_n to_o prove_v that_o angel_n may_v be_v invocate_v embrace_v that_o exposition_n of_o these_o word_n of_o scripture_n which_o be_v heretical_o false_a as_o i_o have_v prove_v chap._n 10._o sect._n 6._o three_o i_o have_v not_o enter_v into_o that_o deep_a dispute_n betwixt_o he_o and_o the_o doctor_n whether_o jubere_fw-la do_v signify_v to_o command_v or_o entreat_v and_o whether_o imperare_fw-la be_v to_o enjoin_v or_o supplicate_v i_o judge_v it_o be_v sufficient_a advantage_n to_o our_o cause_n that_o if_o jubere_fw-la and_o imperare_fw-la shall_v not_o be_v render_v to_o entreat_v and_o supplicate_v but_o to_o command_v the_o romanist_n must_v unavoidable_o be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n t._n g._n indeed_o inform_v we_o that_o it_o be_v not_o the_o dead_a word_n but_o the_o intention_n of_o the_o speaker_n that_o make_v they_o to_o be_v prayer_n for_o otherwise_o a_o parrot_n may_v be_v teach_v to_o pray_v as_o well_o as_o a_o christian_a and_o thence_o he_o manful_o conclude_v that_o in_o these_o expression_n nos_fw-la a_o peccatis_fw-la omnibus_fw-la solvite_fw-la jussu_fw-la quaesumus_fw-la 971._o cassand_n consult_v do_fw-mi de_fw-fr meritis_fw-la &_o intercess_n sanctor_n p._n 971._o jube_fw-la filio_fw-la o_fw-la foelix_fw-la puerpera_fw-la jure_fw-la matris_fw-la impera_fw-la redemptori_fw-la etc._n etc._n they_o only_o pray_v to_o saint_n to_o pray_v for_o we_o as_o if_o a_o man_n shall_v call_v his_o prince_n a_o tyrant_n and_o his_o brother_n knave_n and_o be_v bring_v before_o the_o judge_n shall_v plead_v that_o by_o a_o tyrant_n he_o mean_v only_o a_o king_n and_o by_o a_o knave_n a_o servant_n and_o since_o it_o be_v not_o the_o dead_a word_n but_o the_o intention_n of_o the_o speaker_n that_o make_v they_o significative_a for_o otherwise_o a_o parrot_n may_v be_v hang_v for_o speak_v what_o he_o do_v he_o hope_v that_o he_o have_v speak_v nothing_o which_o may_v give_v offence_n especial_o see_v he_o have_v more_o author_n ready_a to_o produce_v to_o justify_v this_o sense_n and_o acceptation_n of_o these_o word_n than_o have_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n for_o this_o interpretation_n of_o jubere_fw-la and_o imperare_fw-la if_o when_o the_o sentence_n be_v thus_o pass_v upon_o he_o jubemus_fw-la &_o imperamus_fw-la hunc_fw-la suspendi_fw-la he_o shall_v plead_v that_o it_o do_v only_o signify_v that_o they_o entreat_v he_o to_o be_v hang_v i_o say_v shall_v such_o a_o plea_n be_v make_v it_o will_v be_v as_o significant_a as_o be_v this_o answer_n of_o t._n g._n and_o all_o that_o any_o man_n can_v say_v against_o the_o plea_n of_o such_o a_o trifle_a sophister_n will_v equal_o conclude_v against_o this_o pitiful_a defence_n which_o he_o have_v offer_v 14._o josh_n 10.12_o 14._o and_o have_v confirm_v by_o a_o false_a citation_n of_o that_o place_n of_o joshuah_n which_o do_v not_o say_v that_o god_n obey_v as_o from_o the_o vulgar_a he_o translate_v it_o but_o that_o god_n hearken_v to_o the_o voice_n of_o man_n four_o in_o this_o discourse_n i_o have_v not_o wave_v any_o thing_n which_o have_v the_o least_o appearance_n of_o a_o argument_n but_o have_v return_v a_o full_a and_o as_o i_o hope_v a_o satisfactory_a answer_v to_o all_o that_o have_v be_v offer_v by_o t._n g._n and_o all_o that_o i_o desire_v of_o he_o be_v that_o if_o be_v shall_v be_v please_v to_o reply_v he_o will_v not_o nibble_n at_o some_o few_o expression_n as_o be_v the_o manner_n of_o the_o roman_a party_n but_o will_v return_v a_o perfect_a answer_n to_o the_o whole_a and_o then_o i_o do_v not_o doubt_v but_o he_o will_v suffer_v i_o to_o rest_v for_o some_o 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2ae_fw-la qu._n 89._o act._n 2._o something_o that_o do_v signify_v the_o inward_a sacrifice_n and_o suffer_v a_o real_a change_n now_o all_o these_o thing_n can_v only_o be_v assert_v of_o the_o outward_a sacrifice_n that_o therefore_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o roman_n catholic_n be_v proper_o latria_n or_o that_o worship_n which_o be_v due_a to_o god_n alone_o which_o i_o will_v further_o prove_v 1._o 19_o aug._n the_o civ_o dei_fw-la l._n 10._o c._n 19_o from_o aquinas_n and_o st._n austin_n who_o do_v argue_v thus_o the_o outward_a sacrifice_n do_v signify_v the_o inward_a and_o spiritual_a sacrifice_n and_o therefore_o see_v the_o inward_a and_o spiritual_a sacrifice_n must_v be_v present_v only_o to_o the_o high_a god_n the_o outward_a also_o must_v be_v offer_v only_o to_o he_o 2._o i_o ask_v if_o this_o external_a sacrifice_n be_v not_o the_o worship_n proper_a to_o god_n whether_o or_o no_o it_o be_v idolatry_n to_o offer_v it_o to_o saint_n and_o angel_n or_o to_o 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understand_v what_o we_o vow_v and_o be_v acquaint_v with_o the_o inward_a motion_n of_o the_o soul_n which_o only_o god_n who_o be_v the_o searcher_n of_o the_o heart_n do_v know_v beside_o the_o romanist_n do_v often_o vow_v that_o his_o 420._o his_o i_o humble_o beg_v of_o thou_o oh_o mother_n of_o all_o clemency_n that_o thou_o will_v vouchsafe_v to_o admit_v i_o into_o the_o number_n of_o those_o who_o have_v devote_v themselves_o to_o thou_o to_o be_v thy_o perpetual_a servant_n reflect_v on_o the_o devotion_n of_o the_o romish_a church_n p._n 420._o whole_a life_n shall_v be_v devote_v to_o the_o bless_a virgin_n or_o some_o other_o saint_n now_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o st._n austin_n thus_o to_o 1._o to_o ut_fw-la sacra_fw-la faciemus_fw-la &_o sacrificemus_fw-la vel_fw-la aliqua_fw-la nostra_fw-la sive_fw-la nos_fw-la ipsos_fw-la religionis_fw-la ritubus_fw-la consecremus_fw-la hic_fw-la est_fw-la divinitati_fw-la vel_fw-la si_fw-la expressuis_fw-la dicendum_fw-la est_fw-la deitati_fw-la debitus_fw-la cultus_fw-la aug._n the_o civ_o dei_fw-la l._n 10._o c._n 1._o consecrate_v ourselves_o by_o a_o religious_a rite_n to_o any_o thing_n be_v to_o perform_v unto_o it_o the_o worship_n proper_a to_o a_o deity_n prayer_n offer_v and_o put_v up_o in_o any_o time_n and_o place_n to_o a_o invisible_a 7._o cor._n 3._o §._o 7._o and_o not_o corporeal_o present_v be_v be_v the_o oblation_n of_o that_o worship_n to_o it_o which_o be_v due_a to_o god_n for_o this_o before_o the_o superstition_n of_o the_o romish_a church_n prevail_v be_v always_o use_v as_o a_o indication_n of_o divinity_n and_o a_o thing_n proper_a to_o the_o deity_n thus_o dio_n tell_v we_o that_o caligula_n be_v worship_v as_o a_o god_n because_o they_o offer_v to_o he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d prayer_n and_o supplication_n the_o consecration_n of_o a_o image_n be_v deem_v by_o some_o heathen_n to_o fix_v within_o it_o some_o invisible_a and_o powerful_a be_v and_o then_o by_o supplication_n to_o the_o consecrate_a image_n it_o be_v make_v a_o god_n according_a unto_o that_o of_o martial_a qui_fw-la fingit_fw-la sacros_fw-la auro_fw-la vel_fw-la marmore_fw-la vultus_fw-la non_fw-la facit_fw-la ille_fw-la deos_fw-la 24_o l._n 8._o ep._n 24_o qui_fw-la rogat_fw-la ille_fw-la facit_fw-la it_o be_v not_o the_o carve_a gold_n or_o marble_n stone_n that_o make_v the_o god_n but_o supplication_n it_o be_v adorn_v say_v 11.2_o say_v ecce_fw-la ornatur_fw-la consecratur_fw-la oratur_fw-la tum_fw-la postremo_fw-la deus_fw-la est_fw-la p._n 26._o luk._n 11.2_o minutius_n and_o consecrate_v and_o last_o it_o be_v pray_v unto_o and_o then_o it_o be_v a_o god_n this_o may_v be_v far_o prove_v from_o scripture_n reason_n and_o authority_n from_o scripture_n thus_o he_o only_o ought_v to_o be_v the_o object_n of_o our_o prayer_n who_o be_v our_o heavenly_a father_n for_o thus_o the_o precept_n run_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d when_o or_o as_o often_o as_o you_o pray_v say_v our_o father_n etc._n etc._n which_o precept_n must_v not_o be_v suppose_v to_o enjoin_v all_o christian_n to_o use_v these_o word_n whensoever_o they_o do_v pray_v for_o we_o do_v never_o find_v in_o any_o of_o the_o prayer_n which_o the_o apostle_n make_v that_o they_o do_v so_o it_o therefore_o do_v enjoin_v we_o when_o we_o pray_v for_o any_o thing_n which_o in_o this_o prayer_n be_v mention_v or_o contain_v to_o pray_v unto_o our_o heavenly_a father_n for_o it_o 2._o obs_n this_o form_n of_o prayer_n must_v be_v suppose_v to_o contain_v all_o thing_n which_o be_v the_o matter_n of_o a_o true_a and_o grateful_a prayer_n according_a unto_o that_o of_o austin_n 12._o austin_n dicendum_fw-la quod_fw-la oratio_fw-la dominica_n perfectissima_fw-la est_fw-la quia_fw-la sicut_fw-la angustinus_n dicit_fw-la ad_fw-la probum_fw-la si_fw-la rectè_fw-la &_o congruenenter_fw-la oramus_fw-la nihil_fw-la aliud_fw-la dicere_fw-la possumus_fw-la quam_fw-la quod_fw-la in_o ista_fw-la oratione_fw-la dominica_n positum_fw-la est_fw-la aquinas_n 2_o 2a_fw-la q._n 83._o art_n 8._o ep._n 121._o
c._n 12._o run_v through_o all_o the_o word_n of_o holy_a prayer_n and_o you_o will_v be_v able_a to_o find_v nothing_o which_o be_v not_o include_v in_o the_o lord_n prayer_n in_o this_o both_o protestant_n and_o roman_a catholic_n agree_v hence_o therefore_o i_o assume_v if_o when_o we_o pray_v for_o any_o thing_n contain_v in_o this_o prayer_n we_o be_v enjoin_v to_o pray_v to_o god_n than_o all_o our_o acceptable_a prayer_n must_v be_v direct_v to_o he_o and_o whensoever_o we_o do_v pray_v for_o any_o blessing_n we_o must_v call_v upon_o he_o beside_o our_o father_n do_v belong_v to_o every_o petition_n no_o other_o person_n be_v mention_v in_o this_o prayer_n so_o that_o the_o sense_n run_v thus_o our_o father_n etc._n etc._n let_v thy_o kingdom_n come_v our_o father_n let_v thy_o will_v be_v do_v etc._n etc._n and_o then_o the_o import_n of_o this_o injunction_n will_v be_v this_o when_o you_o pray_v for_o the_o advancement_n of_o god_n glory_n or_o the_o promotion_n of_o his_o kingdom_n or_o the_o performance_n of_o his_o will_n when_o you_o solicit_v for_o any_o temporal_a blessing_n or_o for_o the_o pardon_n of_o your_o sin_n or_o last_o for_o the_o prevention_n of_o any_o evil_n or_o temptation_n of_o what_o kind_n soever_o when_o you_o desire_v any_o of_o these_o mercy_n for_o yourselves_o or_o other_o pray_v to_o your_o heavenly_a father_n for_o they_o 3._o none_o of_o these_o blessing_n must_v be_v ask_v of_o he_o to_o who_o the_o kingdom_n power_n and_o glory_n do_v not_o of_o right_a belong_v for_o this_o be_v add_v as_o the_o cause_n or_o motive_n of_o make_v these_o address_n to_o god_n and_o where_o the_o motive_n or_o cause_n be_v want_v the_o effect_n must_v cease_v now_o to_o god_n only_o the_o kingdom_n power_n and_o glory_n do_v agree_v judas_n 25._o we_o therefore_o must_v address_v our_o prayer_n to_o he_o only_o for_o the_o obtain_n of_o these_o blessing_n and_o lest_o you_o shall_v object_v that_o this_o argument_n exclude_v the_o three_o and_o second_o person_n of_o the_o sacred_a trinity_n let_v it_o be_v note_v that_o all_o the_o schoolman_n do_v affirm_v that_o the_o word_n father_n in_o this_o prayer_n must_v not_o be_v take_v personal_o but_o essential_o and_o so_o exclude_v not_o the_o other_o person_n of_o the_o trinity_n but_o those_o thing_n only_o which_o have_v not_o the_o same_o nature_n with_o they_o 2._o prayer_n offer_v up_o in_o any_o time_n or_o place_n to_o a_o invisible_a and_o for_o any_o thing_n we_o know_v a_o be_v absent_a from_o we_o as_o far_o as_o earth_n from_o heaven_n do_v ascribe_v unto_o that_o be_v the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n now_o to_o worship_v any_o be_v whether_o saint_n or_o angel_n with_o such_o a_o kind_n of_o worship_n which_o do_v ascribe_v unto_o it_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o desire_n and_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n both_o where_o and_o whensoever_o they_o be_v conceive_v or_o utter_v be_v to_o ascribe_v unto_o they_o by_o way_n of_o worship_n what_o be_v not_o due_a to_o saint_n or_o angel_n but_o alone_o to_o god_n as_o have_v be_v prove_v already_o and_o may_v be_v further_o thus_o confirm_v 1._o if_o saint_n depart_v be_v acquaint_v with_o the_o desire_n of_o our_o heart_n why_o do_v elijah_n speak_v unto_o elisha_n thus_o 2.9_o 2_o king_n 2.9_o ask_v what_o thou_o will_v before_o i_o be_o take_v from_o thou_o the_o scripture_n do_v affirm_v that_o he_o be_v take_v up_o into_o the_o heaven_n and_o therefore_o do_v behold_v the_o face_n of_o god_n and_o roman_a catholic_n themselves_o deny_v that_o he_o be_v hold_v in_o limbo_n as_o they_o imagine_v other_o prophet_n be_v be_v in_o heaven_n his_o love_n unto_o elisha_n and_o the_o church_n of_o god_n be_v not_o diminish_v but_o enlarge_v and_o therefore_o upon_o that_o account_n he_o have_v a_o strong_a reason_n to_o ask_v what_o he_o desire_v then_o before_o beside_o the_o prophet_n be_v now_o with_o god_n in_o heaven_n his_o prayer_n will_v more_o effectual_o prevail_v for_o any_o blessing_n for_o his_o friend_n and_o therefore_o he_o have_v great_a reason_n to_o have_v say_v have_v he_o believe_v this_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n ask_v what_o thou_o will_v when_v i_o be_o take_v from_o thou_o and_o therefore_o we_o have_v reason_n to_o presume_v that_o he_o do_v not_o believe_v this_o doctrine_n but_o rather_o think_v that_o his_o departure_n will_v render_v all_o elijah_n future_a wish_n and_o add_v ress_n to_o he_o vain_a and_o ineffectual_a 2._o from_o that_o know_a passage_n of_o isaiah_n abraham_n nescivit_fw-la nos_fw-la &_o israel_n ignoravit_fw-la nos_fw-la st._n augustine_n thus_o conclude_v 13._o conclude_v si_fw-mi tanti_fw-la patriarchae_fw-la quid_fw-la erga_fw-la populum_fw-la ex_fw-la his_fw-la procreatum_fw-la ageretur_fw-la ignoraverunt_fw-la quibus_fw-la deo_fw-la credentibus_fw-la populus_fw-la ipse_fw-la ex_fw-la corum_fw-la stirpe_fw-la promissus_fw-la est_fw-la quomodo_fw-la mortui_fw-la suorum_fw-la rebus_fw-la 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of_o the_o world_n which_o we_o have_v prove_v to_o agree_v to_o god_n alone_o or_o such_o a_o presence_n in_o all_o place_n which_o be_v proper_a to_o he_o and_o therefore_o it_o ascribe_v to_o they_o the_o honour_n due_a to_o god_n alone_o 2._o if_o saint_n depart_v do_v know_v the_o mind_n and_o inward_a thought_n of_o those_o who_o put_v up_o their_o petition_n to_o they_o they_o have_v this_o knowledge_n either_o from_o revelation_n or_o from_o the_o beatific_a vision_n but_o they_o have_v no_o such_o knowledge_n either_o from_o revelation_n or_o from_o the_o beatific_a vision_n ergo._n and_o 1._o god_n do_v not_o ordinary_o reveal_v unto_o they_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o heart_n of_o their_o petitioner_n for_o if_o they_o do_v not_o want_v this_o revelation_n god_n who_o do_v nothing_o vain_o must_v not_o be_v suppose_v to_o impart_v it_o but_o these_o bless_a spirit_n do_v not_o want_v it_o for_o do_v they_o need_v this_o revelation_n to_o perceive_v our_o mind_n say_v 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prophet_n as_o to_o the_o soul_n in_o heaven_n nor_o have_v we_o one_o example_n or_o declaration_n that_o what_o god_n be_v suppose_v now_o to_o do_v he_o be_v not_o willing_a to_o do_v then_o 2._o certain_a it_o be_v the_o charity_n of_o those_o depart_a patriarch_n and_o prophet_n towards_o their_o relative_n and_o friend_n and_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o god_n must_v be_v exceed_o advance_v by_o their_o change_n they_o must_v be_v more_o the_o friend_n of_o god_n and_o their_o petition_n must_v be_v more_o prevail_a then_o whilst_o they_o do_v continue_v in_o the_o flesh_n wherefore_o the_o jew_n have_v as_o good_a reason_n to_o invoke_v these_o patriarch_n and_o prophet_n as_o have_v the_o romanist_n to_o call_v upon_o the_o christian_a martyr_n and_o god_n have_v equal_a reason_n to_o declare_v this_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o to_o reveal_v their_o supplication_n to_o the_o patriarch_n as_o to_o
have_v these_o word_n 1605._o word_n confiteer_v d●●_n omnipotenti_fw-la beatae_fw-la mariae_fw-la s●mper_fw-la virgini_fw-la beato_n michaeli_n archangelo_fw-la beato_n joanni_n baptistae_n sanctis_fw-la apostolis_n petro_n &_o paulo_n ominibus_fw-la sanctis_fw-la &_o u●bis_fw-la flatter_v qu●●●_n peccavi_fw-la nimis_fw-la cogicatione_n five_o rbo_n &_o opere_fw-la ideo_fw-la precor_fw-la beatam_fw-la mariam_n semper_fw-la virginem_fw-la beatum_fw-la michaelem_fw-la archangelum_fw-la beatum_fw-la joannem_fw-la baptistam_fw-la sanctos_fw-la apostelos_n petrum_fw-la &_o paulum_fw-la omnes_fw-la sancte_n &_o vos_fw-fr fratres_n crareprome_v ad_fw-la dominum_fw-la deum_fw-la n_o sirum_fw-la ordinarium_fw-la missae_fw-la p._n 217._o ed._n antuerp_n f._n 1605._o i_o confess_v to_o god_n almighty_a and_o to_o the_o ever_o bless_a virgin_n to_o bless_a michael_n archangel_n to_o bless_a john_n baptist_n to_o the_o holy_a apostle_n peter_n and_o paul_n to_o all_o the_o saint_n and_o to_o you_o brethren_n that_o i_o have_v sin_v in_o thought_n word_n and_o deed_n and_o therefore_o i_o entreat_v the_o bless_a virgin_n the_o archangel_n michael_n st._n john_n the_o baptist_n st._n peter_n and_o st._n paul_n and_o all_o the_o saint_n and_o you_o my_o brethren_n to_o pray_v for_o i_o to_o our_o lord_n god_n this_o be_v the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o it_o contain_v these_o seven_o particular_n 1._o that_o it_o be_v good_a and_o profitable_a for_o every_o faithful_a man_n and_o exile_a son_n of_o eve_n to_o pray_v unto_o the_o bless_a virgin_n and_o the_o saint_n depart_v 2._o that_o it_o be_v good_a and_o profitable_a thus_o to_o intercede_v not_o only_o for_o the_o good_a and_o welfare_n of_o the_o church_n in_o general_n but_o for_o every_o single_a person_n 3._o 4._o august_n ser._n 37._o de_fw-la sanctis_fw-la ser._n 3._o de_fw-la pluribus_fw-la mart._n in_o com._n plurium_fw-la mart._n extra_fw-la tempus_fw-la pasch_fw-mi lect._n 4._o whereas_o the_o ancient_a church_n speak_v thus_o as_o often_o as_o we_o celebrate_v the_o solemnity_n of_o holy_a martyr_n let_v we_o so_o expect_v by_o their_o intercession_n to_o obtain_v from_o the_o lord_n temporal_a benefit_n that_o by_o imitate_v the_o martyr_n themselves_o we_o may_v deserve_v to_o receive_v eternal_a which_o word_n be_v still_o retain_v in_o the_o roman_a breviary_n we_o be_v now_o teach_v to_o pray_v unto_o they_o for_o all_o the_o blessing_n necessary_a to_o eternal_a life_n nay_o we_o be_v tell_v that_o 1577._o that_o gunde_fw-la mater_fw-la miserorum_fw-la quia_fw-la pater_fw-la saeculorum_fw-la dabit_fw-la te_fw-la colentibus_fw-la congruentem_fw-la h●c_fw-la mercedem_fw-la &_o faelicem_fw-la polisedem_fw-la regnis_fw-la in_o coelestibus_fw-la prosa_fw-la de_fw-la beata_fw-la maria_n f._n 30._o apud_fw-la missale_n rom._n ed._n a●tuerp_n 1577._o god_n will_v give_v eternal_a life_n to_o those_o that_o do_v adore_v the_o bless_a virgin_n 4._o it_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o saint_n depart_v may_v and_o shall_v be_v invocate_v as_o well_o by_o mental_a as_o by_o vocal_a prayer_n this_o be_v decree_v at_o trent_n this_o pastor_n be_v enjoin_v to_o teach_v their_o people_n and_o last_o this_o we_o have_v confirm_v by_o their_o practice_n in_o these_o word_n with_o the_o desire_n of_o our_o heart_n we_o pray_v unto_o you_o regard_v the_o ready_a service_n of_o our_o mind_n 5._o these_o practice_n and_o these_o petition_n be_v many_o of_o they_o build_v upon_o this_o supposition_n that_o the_o bless_a saint_n do_v hear_v our_o prayer_n and_o be_v acquaint_v with_o our_o hope_n and_o with_o the_o praise_n which_o we_o offer_v to_o they_o and_o consequent_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o who_o solemnity_n these_o prayer_n be_v use_v must_v be_v deem_v to_o ascribe_v this_o knowledge_n to_o they_o for_o what_o more_o foolish_a and_o absurd_a than_o constant_o to_o call_v upon_o they_o to_o bear_v behold_v and_o to_o receive_v to_o regard_v favour_n and_o promote_v our_o prayer_n when_o we_o complain_v to_o pity_v and_o consider_v they_o that_o pray_v to_o be_v their_o advocate_n and_o plead_v their_o cause_n if_o these_o address_n be_v not_o understand_v by_o those_o bless_a spirit_n to_o who_o they_o be_v particular_o direct_v who_o know_v not_o that_o to_o be_v our_o advocate_n be_v to_o commend_v our_o cause_n to_o god_n and_o to_o entreat_v that_o our_o desire_n may_v be_v grant_v and_o who_o know_v not_o that_o our_o cause_n can_v be_v thus_o commend_v or_o our_o disire_n represent_v till_o they_o first_o be_v understand_v moreover_o see_v they_o do_v request_v these_o bless_a spirit_n to_o receive_v their_o vow_n and_o to_o take_v care_n that_o they_o be_v pay_v to_o god_n to_o hear_v and_o to_o receive_v their_o praise_n see_v they_o do_v confess_v their_o sin_n unto_o they_o and_o therefore_o do_v entreat_v they_o to_o intercede_v with_o god_n in_o their_o behalf_n see_v they_o do_v endeavour_v to_o move_v they_o to_o commiserate_v their_o state_n by_o say_v that_o they_o place_v their_o hope_n and_o only_a confidence_n upon_o their_o intercession_n they_o must_v acknowledge_v that_o these_o bless_a spirit_n be_v acquaint_v with_o their_o confession_n and_o their_o vow_n their_o hope_n and_o praise_n and_o therefore_o albeit_o this_o consequence_n shall_v be_v deny_v p._n t._n g._n p._n we_o pray_v unto_o the_o saint_n depart_v therefore_o they_o do_v hear_v we_o yet_o this_o can_v never_o be_v deny_v we_o pray_v unto_o they_o to_o hear_v and_o to_o receive_v our_o prayer_n and_o praise_n vow_n and_o confession_n and_o therefore_o we_o believe_v they_o do_v 6._o hence_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o papist_n do_v not_o only_o pray_v unto_o they_o to_o intercede_v with_o god_n for_o blessing_n but_o do_v desire_n that_o the_o bless_a spirit_n will_v themselves_o confer_v they_o thus_o they_o entreat_v st._n peter_n by_o the_o power_n give_v to_o he_o to_o 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ascribe_v unto_o they_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o the_o internal_a motion_n of_o every_o supplicant_n as_o far_o as_o these_o petition_n and_o other_o action_n do_v require_v it_o this_o be_v that_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o we_o think_v just_o charge_v with_o idolatry_n for_o 1._o to_o ascribe_v unto_o the_o saint_n depart_v by_o way_n of_o worship_n that_o excellency_n which_o be_v proper_a to_o god_n be_v idolatry_n but_o to_o ascribe_v unto_o they_o by_o a_o act_n of_o worship_n the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o heart_n of_o they_o that_o pray_v unto_o they_o be_v to_o ascribe_v unto_o they_o that_o excellency_n which_o be_v proper_a to_o god_n by_o propos_fw-fr 2._o ergo._n 2._o prayer_n offer_v and_o put_v up_o in_o any_o time_n or_o place_n to_o a_o invisible_a and_o incorporeal_a be_v be_v the_o oblation_n of_o that_o worship_n to_o it_o which_o be_v due_a to_o god_n by_o prop._n 4._o corol._n 3._o but_o this_o devotion_n of_o the_o roman_a 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the_o ephesian_n the_o spirit_n of_o wisdom_n and_o revelation_n in_o the_o knowledge_n of_o he_o 18._o eph._n 1.17_o 18._o the_o eye_n of_o their_o understanding_n be_v enlighten_v that_o he_o will_v grant_v that_o christ_n may_v dwell_v in_o their_o heart_n by_o faith_n 3.17.18.19_o 3.17.18.19_o that_o they_o may_v be_v strengthen_v by_o his_o spirit_n in_o the_o inner_a man_n that_o they_o be_v root_v and_o ground_v in_o love_n may_v be_v able_a to_o comprehend_v with_o all_o saint_n what_o be_v the_o breadth_n and_o length_n and_o depth_n and_o height_n and_o to_o know_v the_o love_n of_o god_n which_o pass_v knowledge_n and_o be_v fill_v with_o all_o fullness_n of_o god_n that_o the_o philippian_n love_v might_n abound_v more_o in_o knowledge_n 11._o phil._n 1.9_o 10_o 11._o and_o in_o all_o judgement_n that_o they_o may_v approve_v thing_n that_o be_v excellent_a and_o be_v sincere_a and_o without_o offence_n till_o the_o day_n of_o christ_n be_v fill_v with_o the_o fruit_n of_o 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blessing_n to_o his_o labour_n he_o therefore_o passionate_o entreat_v the_o christian_n to_o who_o his_o writing_n be_v direct_v 31._o rom._n 15.30_o 31._o that_o they_o will_v strive_v together_o with_o he_o in_o their_o prayer_n to_o god_n that_o he_o may_v be_v deliver_v from_o they_o who_o do_v not_o believe_v in_o judea_n and_o that_o his_o service_n which_o he_o have_v for_o jerusalem_n may_v be_v accept_v of_o the_o saint_n and_o that_o he_o may_v come_v unto_o they_o with_o joy_n and_o with_o they_o be_v refresh_v that_o they_o will_v always_o 19_o eph._n 6.18_o 19_o and_o with_o all_o perseverance_n pray_v for_o he_o that_o utterance_n may_v be_v give_v unto_o he_o hat_n he_o may_v open_v his_o mouth_n bold_o to_o make_v know_v the_o mystery_n of_o the_o gospel_n 3._o col._n 4.1_o 2_o 3._o that_o they_o will_v continue_v in_o prayer_n that_o god_n will_v open_v unto_o he_o a_o door_n of_o utterance_n to_o speak_v the_o mystery_n of_o christ_n for_o which_o he_o be_v in_o 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not_o communicate_v to_o the_o saint_n decease_v this_o will_v appear_v more_o evident_a if_o we_o consider_v and_o refute_v those_o shift_n whereby_o they_o do_v endeavour_v to_o evade_v the_o force_n of_o this_o triumphant_a evidence_n and_o 1._o they_o tell_v we_o that_o 239._o that_o si_fw-mi apostoli_fw-la &_o evangelistae_fw-la docuissent_fw-la sanctos_fw-la venerandos_fw-la arrogantiae_fw-la iis_fw-la datum_fw-la fuisset_fw-la ac_fw-la si_fw-la post_fw-la mortem_fw-la gloriam_fw-la illam_fw-la quaesivissent_fw-la noluit_fw-la ergo_fw-la spiritus_fw-la sanctus_n expressis_fw-la scipturis_fw-la docere_fw-la invocationem_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la eckius_fw-la in_o enchirid._n loc_fw-la com._n ex_fw-la edit_fw-la alex._n weissenhorn_n alanus_fw-la copus_n dial._n 3._o fol._n 239._o have_v the_o bless_a apostle_n teach_v this_o doctrine_n it_o may_v have_v be_v object_v to_o they_o that_o they_o seek_v their_o own_o advancement_n and_o honour_n by_o the_o propagation_n of_o their_o 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see_v and_o hear_v we_o every_o where_fw-mi and_o chrysostom_n upon_o the_o same_o expression_n find_v fault_n with_o those_o that_o pray_v aloud_o and_o bid_v we_o imitate_v the_o hymn_n and_o melody_n of_o holy_a angel_n who_o pray_v with_o we_o although_o we_o do_v not_o hear_v they_o for_o say_v he_o 137._o he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d chrysost_n tom._n 2._o homil._n in_o matt._n 19_o pag._n 137._o thou_o do_v not_o pray_v to_o man_n but_o to_o god_n omnipresent_v to_o he_o that_o hear_v before_o thou_o speak_v to_o he_o that_o understand_v what_o the_o mind_n do_v not_o utter_v 4._o because_o he_o only_o can_v answer_v our_o petition_n and_o from_o he_o only_o can_v we_o obtain_v what_o we_o desire_v 3._o desire_v precantes_fw-la sumus_fw-la proomnibus_fw-la imperatoribus_fw-la vitam_fw-la illis_fw-la prolixam_fw-la imperium_fw-la securum_fw-la domun_fw-la tutam_fw-la populum_fw-la probum_fw-la orbem_fw-la quietum_fw-la quaecunque_fw-la hominis_fw-la &_o caesaris_fw-la vota_fw-la sunt_fw-la haec_fw-la ab_fw-la alio_fw-la orare_fw-la non_fw-la possum_fw-la quam_fw-la à_fw-la quo_fw-la i_o scio_fw-la consequnturum_fw-la quoniam_fw-la &_o ipse_fw-la est_fw-la qui_fw-la solus_fw-la praestat_fw-la &_o ego_fw-la sum_fw-la cvi_fw-la impetrare_fw-la debetur_fw-la famulus_fw-la ejus_fw-la qui_fw-la eum_fw-la solum_fw-la observo_fw-la tertul._n apol._n c._n 30._o sect._n 2_o 3._o we_o beg_v for_o all_o our_o emperor_n long_a life_n safe_a empire_n valiant_a army_n a_o faithful_a senate_n a_o honest_a people_n and_o a_o quiet_a world_n and_o whatsoever_o any_o man_n or_o emperor_n can_v wish_v so_o tertullian_n and_o then_o he_o add_v these_o thing_n i_o may_v not_o pray_v for_o from_o any_o other_o but_o from_o he_o of_o who_o i_o know_v i_o shall_v obtain_v they_o because_o both_o it_o be_v he_o who_o alone_o be_v able_a to_o give_v and_o i_o be_o be_v to_o who_o it_o appertain_v to_o obtain_v that_o which_o be_v request_v be_v his_o servant_n who_o observe_v 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id._n ib._n origen_n that_o angel_n be_v sometime_o style_v god_n but_o notwithstanding_o that_o these_o god_n do_v also_o minister_v and_o bring_v the_o gift_n of_o god_n unto_o we_o we_o must_v not_o worship_v they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o place_n of_o god_n for_o all_o our_o prayer_n and_o supplication_n by_o whatsoever_o name_n we_o call_v they_o for_o he_o mention_n all_o the_o kind_n of_o prayer_n they_o must_v be_v all_o send_v up_o to_o god_n by_o that_o high_a priest_n who_o be_v above_o all_o angel_n and_o be_v god_n why_o so_o i_o pray_v you_o but_o that_o all_o prayer_n be_v worship_n which_o alone_o belong_v to_o god_n and_o jesus_n christ_n and_o therefore_o to_o offer_v it_o to_o any_o creature_n or_o by_o any_o other_o mediator_n be_v to_o ascribe_v that_o to_o he_o which_o be_v due_a to_o god_n alone_o have_v he_o be_v of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n he_o must_v have_v say_v with_o they_o that_o notwithstanding_o you_o have_v that_o high_a priest_n yet_o may_v you_o send_v up_o your_o petition_n to_o the_o saint_n and_o angel_n this_o be_v a_o honour_n to_o he_o not_o a_o encroachment_n upon_o the_o office_n of_o this_o great_a high_a priest_n it_o be_v confess_v you_o must_v not_o worship_v they_o instead_o of_o god_n but_o notwithstanding_o you_o may_v put_v up_o to_o they_o supplication_n prayer_n thanksgiving_n intercession_n you_o may_v say_v unto_o they_o pater_fw-la noster_fw-la and_o ask_v all_o temporal_a and_o eternal_a blessing_n of_o they_o provide_v you_o do_v not_o pray_v unto_o they_o with_o absolute_a terminative_a and_o sacrificial_a prayer_n distinction_n which_o in_o reference_n to_o this_o matter_n the_o father_n know_v but_o little_o off_o the_o father_n hence_o conclude_v that_o christ_n be_v god_n 4._o arg._n 4._o and_o that_o the_o holy_a spirit_n be_v god_n because_o we_o put_v up_o our_o petition_n to_o they_o and_o because_o that_o they_o be_v present_a to_o relieve_v we_o be_v call_v upon_o ibid._n upon_o si_fw-mi homo_fw-la tantummodo_fw-la christus_fw-la qùomodo_fw-la adest_fw-la ubique_fw-la invocatus_fw-la cum_fw-la haec_fw-la hominis_fw-la natura_fw-la non_fw-la sit_fw-la sed_fw-la dei_fw-la ut_fw-la udesse_fw-la omni_fw-la loco_fw-la possit_fw-la no_o what_o de_fw-fr trinitate_fw-la c._n 14._o p._n 707._o si_fw-mi homo_fw-la tantummodo_fw-la christus_fw-la cur_n homo_fw-la in_o orationibus_fw-la mediator_n invocetur_fw-la cum_fw-la invocatio_fw-la hominis_fw-la ad_fw-la praestandam_fw-la salutem_fw-la inessecax_n judicetur_fw-la novatian_n ibid._n if_o christ_n be_v only_a man_n how_o come_v he_o to_o be_v every_o where_o present_a when_o he_o be_v invoke_v since_o to_o be_v omnipresent_v be_v the_o property_n of_o god_n and_o be_v not_o competent_a to_o humane_a nature_n if_o christ_n be_v only_a man_n why_o be_v a_o man_n invoke_v in_o our_o prayer_n as_o if_o he_o be_v a_o mediator_n for_o the_o invocation_n of_o a_o man_n be_v by_o christian_n judge_v inefficacious_a to_o the_o obtain_n of_o salvation_n so_o novatian_n it_o be_v so_o by_o the_o ancient_a christian_n but_o be_v it_o so_o esteem_v by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v not_o the_o bless_a virgin_n by_o they_o style_v b._n style_v ave_fw-la salus_fw-la hominum_fw-la prosa_fw-la miss_n f._n 35._o b._n salus_fw-la hominum_fw-la or_o the_o salvation_n of_o mankind_n do_v they_o not_o say_v that_o 30._o that_o ibid._n fol._n 30._o god_n will_v certain_o confer_v eternal_a life_n on_o they_o that_o worship_v she_o do_v they_o not_o bid_v the_o 16._o the_o missa_fw-la in_o honorem_fw-la proprii_fw-la angeli_fw-la f._n 16._o guardian_n angel_n say_v unto_o their_o soul_n i_o be_o thy_o salvation_n it_o be_v write_v say_v athanasius_n be_v thou_o to_o i_o a_o god_n protector_n and_z as_o house_n of_o refuge_n that_o thou_o may_v save_v i_o which_o word_n if_o arian_n conceive_v to_o have_v be_v speak_v of_o the_o son_n 369._o son_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d contr._n ar._n orat_fw-la p._n 369._o let_v they_o know_v that_o christian_n or_o holy_a person_n do_v not_o petition_v any_o thing_n that_o be_v beget_v to_o be_v a_o helper_n to_o they_o or_o a_o house_n of_o refuge_n what_o be_v they_o then_o who_o do_v declare_v that_o it_o be_v good_a and_o profitable_a 25._o profitable_a council_n trid._n sess_n 25._o ad_fw-la corum_fw-la opem_fw-la auxiliumque_fw-la confugere_fw-la to_o fly_v for_o refuge_n to_o their_o help_n and_o aid_n who_o daily_a practice_n be_v to_o fly_v unto_o the_o bless_a virgin_n 8._o virgin_n catech_n rom._n par._n 4._o c._n 5._o sect._n 8._o ab_fw-la eâque_fw-la opem_fw-la &_o auxilium_fw-la implorare_fw-la i._n e._n and_o to_o petition_v she_o to_o be_v our_o helper_n who_o do_v advise_v we_o a._n we_o sub_fw-la matris_fw-la refugio_fw-la fuge_fw-la causa_fw-la veniae_fw-la prosa_fw-la miss_n f._n 33._o b._n 34._o a._n to_o fly_v under_o her_o refuge_n for_o the_o pardon_n of_o our_o sin_n last_o who_o say_v unto_o their_o guardian_n angel_n 16._o angel_n exurge_v angelo_n in_o adjutorium_fw-la meum_fw-la miss_n in_o hon._n pr._n angel_n f._n 16._o arise_v o_o angel_n to_o my_o help_n origen_n lay_n down_o this_o as_o a_o most_o certain_a rule_n 10._o rule_n sed_fw-la in_o principio_fw-la epistolae_fw-la quam_fw-la ad_fw-la corinthios_n scribit_fw-la ubi_fw-la dicit_fw-la cum_fw-la omnibus_fw-la qui_fw-la invocant_fw-la nomen_fw-la domini_fw-la jesu_fw-la christi_fw-la in_o omni_fw-la loco_fw-la ipsorum_fw-la &_o nostro_fw-la cum_fw-la cujus_fw-la nomen_fw-la invocatur_fw-la deum_fw-la jesum_fw-la christum_fw-la esse_fw-la pronunciat_fw-la si_fw-la ergò_fw-la &_o enos_n &_o moses_n &_o samuel_n invocabant_fw-la dominum_fw-la &_o ipse_fw-la exaudiebat_fw-la eos_fw-la sine_fw-la dubio_fw-la christum_fw-la jesum_fw-la dominum_fw-la invocabant_fw-la &_o si_fw-la invocare_fw-la domini_fw-la nomen_fw-la &_o adorare_fw-la deum_fw-la unum_fw-la atque_fw-la idem_fw-la est_fw-la sicut_fw-la invocatur_fw-la christus_fw-la &_o adorandus_fw-la est_fw-la christus_fw-la orig._n l._n 8._o in_o epist_n ad_fw-la rom._n c._n 10._o that_o to_o invoke_v the_o name_n of_o god_n and_o to_o adore_v he_o be_v the_o same_o whence_o he_o infer_v that_o as_o christ_n may_v be_v invocate_v so_o also_o must_v he_o be_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v god_n and_o he_o add_v that_o when_o saint_n paul_n do_v mention_v those_o that_o in_o all_o place_n call_v upon_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n he_o prove_v the_o same_o have_v thus_o manifest_v from_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n that_o invocation_n be_v a_o part_n of_o worship_n proper_a to_o god_n and_o that_o it_o can_v be_v ascribe_v to_o saint_n depart_v without_o idolatry_n much_o less_o to_o the_o inferior_a heathen_a daemon_n 1.5_o pag._n 1.5_o we_o shall_v subjoin_v what_o dr._n st._n affirm_v viz._n that_o there_o be_v other_o intermediate_v being_n between_o the_o supreme_a god_n and_o man_n who_o office_n as_o the_o heathen_n do_v conceive_v be_v this_o to_o carry_v the_o prayer_n of_o man_n to_o god_n and_o to_o bring_v down_o help_v from_o he_o to_o they_o they_o think_v it_o very_o fit_v to_o address_v their_o solemn_a supplication_n unto_o they_o this_o i_o say_v be_v so_o there_o be_v the_o very_a same_o cause_n in_o debate_n betwixt_o the_o ancient_a father_n and_o the_o heathen_n which_o be_v between_o we_o and_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n here_o t.g._n swell_v and_o cry_v out_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d this_o be_v a_o most_o injurious_a calumny_n and_o such_o as_o scarce_o ever_o drop_v from_o the_o pen_n of_o the_o great_a enemy_n of_o christianity_n so_o he_o this_o be_v his_o continual_a custom_n to_o begin_v with_o false_a and_o disingenuous_a accusation_n and_o to_o confirm_v they_o by_o most_o impertinent_a and_o weak_a discourse_n we_o therefore_o will_v a_o little_a draw_v the_o parallel_n and_o then_o proceed_v to_o answer_v his_o impertinency_n first_o then_o 4._o then_o oratio_fw-la porrigitur_fw-la alicui_fw-la dupliciter_fw-la vno_fw-la modo_fw-la quasi_fw-la per_fw-la ipsum_fw-la implenda_fw-la alio_fw-la modo_fw-la sicut_fw-la per_fw-la ipsum_fw-la impetranda_fw-la primo_fw-la quidem_fw-la modo_fw-la soli_fw-la dec_n orationem_fw-la porrigimus_fw-la quid_fw-la omnes_fw-la crationes_fw-la nostrae_fw-la ordinari_fw-la debent_fw-la ad_fw-la gratiam_fw-la &_o gloriam_fw-la consequendam_fw-la quae_fw-la solus_fw-la deus_fw-la that_fw-mi secundum_fw-la illud_fw-la psal_n 83._o gratiam_fw-la &_o glorian_n dabit_fw-la dominue_v sed_fw-la secundario_fw-la modo_fw-la orationem_fw-la porrigimus_fw-la angelis_n &_o hominibus_fw-la aq._n 2_o 2ae_fw-la q._n 83._o art_n 4._o aquinas_n thus_o propound_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n touch_v the_o invocation_n of_o depart_a spirit_n a_o prayer_n may_v be_v direct_v to_o a_o person_n so_o as_o that_o we_o do_v request_v he_o to_o fulfil_v and_o by_o himself_o accomplish_v our_o desire_n and_o thus_o we_o 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office_n which_o the_o platonist_n ascribe_v to_o their_o daemon_n they_o say_v 18._o say_v august_n de_fw-fr c._n d._n l._n 8._o c._n 18._o st._n austin_n bring_v the_o prayer_n of_o man_n unto_o the_o god_n and_o what_o they_o beg_v and_o do_v obtain_v quae_fw-la poscunt_fw-la impetrata_fw-la they_o bring_v back_o to_o man_n and_o again_o they_o think_v they_o so_o to_o intermediate_v betwixt_o god_n and_o man_n as_o that_o they_o carry_v out_o desire_v hence_o illinc_fw-la referunt_fw-la impetrata_fw-la and_o from_o thence_o bring_v back_o what_o they_o have_v obtain_v hence_o be_v they_o often_o style_v by_o they_o advocate_n and_o mediator_n intercessor_n and_o pararii_n i._n e._n the_o obrainer_n of_o our_o suit_n 2._o on_o this_o account_n they_o think_v it_o reasonable_a to_o honour_v they_o with_o supplication_n conciliatores_fw-la supplication_n ficinus_fw-la tradit_fw-la platonem_fw-la universan_fw-la deorum_fw-la synagogam_fw-la unico_fw-la regi_fw-la subdere_fw-la prout_fw-la vult_fw-la sengulis_fw-la imperanti_fw-la jubere_fw-la primum_fw-la deum_fw-la adori_fw-la propter_fw-la seipsum_fw-la sequentes_fw-la vero_fw-la qui_fw-la participes_fw-la ejus_fw-la dii_fw-la queque_fw-la dicuntur_fw-la amari_fw-la tanquam_fw-la illi_fw-la similiores_fw-la honorari_fw-la etiam_fw-la ut_fw-la vicarios_fw-la imo_fw-la &_o advocari_fw-la lanquam_fw-la conciliatores_fw-la plato_n say_v ficinus_fw-la subject_v the_o whole_a number_n of_o god_n unto_o one_o king_n who_o as_o he_o please_v do_v command_v they_o all_o and_o he_o command_v that_o the_o chief_a god_n shall_v be_v worship_v for_o himself_o the_o other_o who_o be_v also_o call_v god_n by_o participation_n to_o be_v love_v as_o like_a to_o he_o and_o to_o be_v honour_v as_o his_o vicar_n and_o to_o be_v address_v to_o as_o to_o reconciler_n and_o plato_n have_v himself_o determine_v 1010._o determine_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d epinom_n pag._n 1010._o that_o they_o ought_v to_o be_v honour_v with_o our_o prayer_n by_o reason_n of_o their_o laudable_a province_n which_o he_o say_v be_v double_a 1._o 1194._o 1._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d symposium_fw-la p._n 1194._o to_o be_v our_o interpreter_n to_o god_n 2._o to_o carry_v up_o the_o prayer_n and_o sacrifice_n of_o man_n to_o god_n and_o to_o bring_v back_o the_o command_n and_o answer_n of_o god_n to_o they_o 394._o they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d celsus_n apud_fw-la origen_n lib._n 8._o p._n 394._o we_o ought_v to_o pray_v unto_o they_o to_o be_v propitious_a to_o we_o so_o celsus_n 3._o they_o do_v not_o think_v they_o to_o be_v god_n proper_o so_o call_v but_o only_o the_o minister_n and_o servant_n of_o god_n as_o i_o have_v prove_v above_o 45._o above_o c●●cta_fw-la coelestum_fw-la voluntate_fw-la numine_fw-la &_o autoritate_fw-la fiunt_fw-la sed_fw-la paer_n num_fw-la obsequy_n op●●a_o &_o ministerio_fw-la apulesus_n de_fw-fr daemon_n sociate_n p._n 45._o all_o thing_n be_v do_v say_v apuleius_n by_o the_o will_n majesty_n and_o authority_n of_o the_o heavenly_a being_n but_o by_o the_o ministry_n work_n and_o obsequiqusness_n of_o the_o daemon_n hence_o do_v they_o style_v they_o virtutes_fw-la &_o ministeria_fw-la dei_fw-la magni_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i._o e._n god_n minister_n and_o messenger_n hence_o do_v they_o rank_v they_o in_o the_o second_o and_o three_o place_n from_o god_n and_o put_v this_o office_n on_o they_o quia_fw-la nullus_fw-la deus_fw-la miscetur_fw-la homini_fw-la because_o no_o god_n that_o be_v properly_z so_o call_v do_v immediate_o converse_v with_o man_n this_o be_v so_o plain_a that_o austin_n do_v acknowledge_v that_o the_o difference_n betwixt_o 23._o betwixt_o hos_fw-la si_fw-la platonici_fw-la malunt_fw-la deos_fw-la quam_fw-la daemon_n dicere_fw-la eisque_fw-la annumerare_fw-la quos_fw-la a_o summo_fw-la deo_fw-la conditos_fw-la deos_fw-la scribit_fw-la eorum_fw-la author_n &_o magister_n plato_n dicant_fw-la quod_fw-la volunt_fw-la 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no_o other_o and_o that_o nothing_o be_v require_v but_o his_o nature_n to_o make_v he_o understand_v all_o thing_n particular_o both_o platonist_n and_o other_o hold_v that_o god_n be_v the_o searcher_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o be_v himself_o acquaint_v with_o the_o thought_n of_o man_n hence_o 83._o hence_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d laertius_n in_o vit_fw-mi thaletis_n p._n 24_o nihil_fw-la deo_fw-la clausum_fw-la est_fw-la interest_n animus_fw-la nostris_fw-la &_o cogitationibus_fw-la intervenit_fw-la senec_n ep._n 83._o thales_n be_v ask_v whether_o the_o action_n of_o man_n can_v be_v conceal_v from_o god_n he_o answer_v no_o nor_o yet_o our_o thought_n nothing_o be_v hide_v from_o god_n faith_n seneca_n he_o be_v both_o present_a to_o our_o mind_n and_o thought_n whence_o he_o exhort_v we_o so_o to_o live_v as_o in_o his_o sight_n and_o so_o to_o think_v as_o have_v one_o who_o look_v into_o our_o breast_n 1._o breast_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d xenophon_n memorab_n l._n 1._o the_o god_n say_v socrates_n know_v all_o thing_n which_o be_v speak_v do_v and_o which_o in_o silence_n we_o consult_v 13._o consult_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d m._n antonini_n l._n 12._o sect._n 2._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id._n l._n 11._o sect._n 13._o god_n see_v all_o mind_n say_v antoninus_n devest_v of_o those_o bark_n and_o material_a vessel_n that_o contain_v they_o for_o with_o his_o mind_n alone_o he_o reach_v all_o those_o mind_n which_o be_v derive_v from_o he_o and_o be_v lodge_v in_o they_o whence_o he_o exhort_v we_o so_o to_o be_v 14._o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d epict_n dissert_v l._n 2._o c._n 14._o affect_v in_o our_o mind_n as_o that_o the_o god_n may_v see_v that_o nothing_o do_v trouble_v or_o disgust_v we_o vindict_v we_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d plutarch_n de_fw-fr tarditate_fw-la divin_fw-fr vindict_v this_o we_o be_v first_o to_o learn_v say_v epictetus_n that_o there_o be_v a_o god_n who_o providence_n do_v reach_v to_o all_o 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against_o it_o we_o produce_v these_o testimony_n m._n testimony_n ipse_fw-la sacerdos_n est_fw-la qui_fw-la nunc_fw-la ingressus_fw-la in_o interiora_fw-la veli_fw-la solus_fw-la ibi_fw-la ex_fw-la his_fw-la qui_fw-la carnem_fw-la gestaverunt_fw-la interpellat_n pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la in_o psalm_n 64._o p_o 144._o m._n 1._o christ_n be_v the_o priest_n who_o be_v now_o enter_v within_o the_o veil_n only_o of_o all_o that_o have_v be_v make_v partaker_n of_o flesh_n make_v intercession_n for_o we_o there_o septimo_fw-la there_o si_fw-mi vero_fw-la ita_fw-la diceret_fw-la hoc_fw-la scripsi_fw-la vobis_fw-la ut_fw-la non_fw-la peccetis_fw-la &_o si_fw-la quis_fw-la peccaverit_fw-la mediatorem_fw-la i_o habetis_fw-la apud_fw-la patrem_fw-la ego_fw-la exoro_fw-la pro_fw-la peccatis_fw-la vestris_fw-la sicut_fw-la parmenianus_n quodam_fw-la loco_fw-la mediatorem_fw-la posuit_fw-la episcopum_fw-la inter_fw-la populum_fw-la &_o doum_n quis_fw-la cum_fw-la ferret_n bonorum_fw-la atque_fw-la 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as_o parmenian_n in_o one_o place_n do_v make_v the_o bishop_n a_o mediator_n betwixt_o the_o people_n and_o god_n what_o good_a and_o faithful_a christian_n will_v endure_v he_o who_o will_v look_v upon_o he_o as_o the_o apostle_n of_o christ_n and_o not_o as_o antichrist_n joh._n antichrist_n non_fw-fr est_fw-fr quo_fw-la case_z nisi_fw-la ad_fw-la i_o non_fw-la est_fw-la quâ_fw-la eas_fw-la nisi_fw-la per_fw-la i_o tract_n 22._o in_o joh._n 3._o thou_o have_v not_o whither_o thou_o can_v go_v but_o to_o i_o nor_o have_v thou_o any_o other_o way_n to_o go_v but_o by_o i_o three_o 3._o §._o 3._o observe_v that_o many_o of_o these_o father_n hold_v those_o doctrine_n and_o opinion_n which_o be_v inconsistent_a with_o this_o practice_n according_a to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o romanist_n as_o 1._o it_o be_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o doctor_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n 4._o rome_n illi_fw-la qui_fw-la sunt_fw-la in_o purgatorio_fw-la nondum_fw-la fruuntur_fw-la visione_n verbi_fw-la ut_fw-la possint_fw-la cognoscere_fw-la ea_fw-la quae_fw-la nos_fw-la cogitumus_fw-la vel_fw-la dicimus_fw-la &_o ideo_fw-la eorum_fw-la suffragia_fw-la non_fw-la imploramus_fw-la orando_fw-la aquin_n 2a_fw-la 2ae_fw-la qu._n 83._o art_n 4._o that_o our_o petition_n shall_v be_v direct_v only_o to_o such_o saint_n as_o do_v enjoy_v the_o beatific_a vision_n or_o a_o clear_a sight_n of_o god_n and_o be_v admit_v into_o those_o glorious_a mansion_n which_o be_v emphatical_o style_v heaven_n and_o this_o they_o do_v imagine_v to_o be_v necessary_a upon_o three_o account_n 1._o that_o they_o may_v give_v a_o reason_n why_o this_o practice_n be_v never_o use_v by_o the_o exodi_fw-la the_o notandum_fw-la est_fw-la quia_fw-la ante_fw-la christi_fw-la adventum_fw-la sancti_fw-la qui_fw-la moriebantur_fw-la non_fw-la intrabant_fw-la in_o coelum_fw-la nec_fw-la deum_fw-la videbant_fw-la nec_fw-la cognoscere_fw-la poterant_fw-la ordinariè_fw-la preces_fw-la supplicantium_fw-la ideo_fw-la non_fw-la fuisse_fw-la consuetum_fw-la in_o testamento_fw-la veteri_fw-la ut_fw-la diceretur_fw-la sancte_fw-la abraham_n ora_fw-la pro_fw-la i_o bellar._n de_fw-fr sanctorum_fw-la beatitud_n l._n 1._o cap._n 19_o s._n item_n exodi_fw-la prophet_n or_o the_o jewish_a church_n and_o why_o it_o be_v not_o say_v in_o scripture_n or_o in_o the_o jewish_a record_n sancte_fw-la abraham_n ora_fw-la pro_fw-la i_o holy_a abraham_n pray_v for_o i_o and_o 2._o why_o neither_o they_o nor_o any_o other_o person_n do_v ever_o put_v up_o a_o petition_n to_o the_o 8._o the_o dicendum_fw-la est_fw-la ideo_fw-la non_fw-la fuisse_fw-la morem_fw-la in_o veteri_fw-la testamento_fw-la adeundi_fw-la sanctos_fw-la intercessores_fw-la quia_fw-la nondum_fw-la erant_fw-la beati_fw-la &_o glorificati_fw-la ut_fw-la modo_fw-la sunt_fw-la alphons_n salmer_n in_o 1_o tim._n 2._o disp_n 8._o saint_n in_o purgatory_n 3._o because_o this_o 13._o this_o quod_fw-la autem_fw-la aliquis_fw-la dirictè_fw-la oraverit_fw-la sanctos_fw-la defunctos_fw-la ut_fw-la se_fw-la adjuvarent_fw-la vel_fw-la pro_fw-la se_fw-la orarent_fw-la nusquam_fw-la legimus_fw-la hic_fw-la enim_fw-la modus_fw-la orandi_fw-la est_fw-la proprius_fw-la legis_fw-la gratiae_n in_o quo_fw-la sancti_fw-la videntes_fw-la deum_fw-la possunt_fw-la etiam_fw-la in_o co_fw-la videro_fw-la orationes_fw-la quae_fw-la ad_fw-la ipsos_fw-la fundantur_fw-la fr._n suarez_n in_o part_n 3._o th._n to._n 2._o disp_n 42._o sect._n 1._o v._o albert._n pigh_o controu._n 13._o beatific_a vision_n be_v conceive_v to_o be_v that_o glass_n in_o which_o the_o bless_a do_v behold_v the_o prayer_n that_o be_v make_v unto_o they_o or_o at_o the_o least_o it_o be_v require_v as_o a_o preparatory_a to_o this_o revelation_n now_o thomas_n stapleton_n inform_v we_o that_o 2._o that_o tot_o illi_fw-la &_o tam_fw-la celebres_fw-la antiqui_fw-la patres_fw-la tertullianus_n irenaeus_n origenes_n chry_n sostomus_fw-la theodoretus_n oecumenius_n theophy_n lactus_fw-la ambrose_n clemens_n romanus_n d._n bernardus_n huic_fw-la sententiae_fw-la quae_fw-la nunc_fw-la in_o concilio_n florentino_n magnd_v demum_fw-la corquisitione_n factâ_fw-la ut_fw-la dogma_fw-la fidei_fw-la definita_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la justorum_fw-la animae_fw-la ante_fw-la diem_fw-la judicti_fw-la dei_fw-la visione_n fruuntur_fw-la non_fw-la sant_z assensi_fw-la s●d_fw-la sententiam_fw-la contrariam_fw-la tradiderunt_fw-la defence_n eccles_n authorit_fw-fr contr_n whitak_n l._n 1._o cap._n 2._o many_o famous_a ancient_a father_n tertullian_n irenaeus_n origen_n chrysostom_n theodoret_n oecumenius_n theophylact_fw-mi ambrose_n clemens_n romanus_n and_o bernard_n do_v not_o assent_v unto_o this_o sentence_n that_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o righteous_a enjoy_v the_o sight_n of_o god_n before_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n but_o do_v deliver_v the_o contrary_a sentence_n thereunto_o to_o these_o franciscus_n pegna_n add_v 2d_o in_o part_n 2._o direct_v inquisitor_n comment_n 2d_o justin_n martyr_n austin_n lactantius_n victorinus_n prudentius_n aretas_n and_o euthymius_n the_o truth_n of_o which_o confession_n of_o these_o roman_a doctor_n you_o may_v see_v large_o prove_v in_o 6._o in_o de_fw-fr poenis_fw-la &_o satisfact●_n 5._o c._n 3_o 4_o 5_o 6._o dalle_n and_o that_o this_o doctrine_n be_v almost_o general_o receive_v about_o that_o time_n when_o all_o those_o father_n flourish_v which_o t._n g._n cit_v to_o confirm_v the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n be_v evident_a from_o that_o of_o g.h._n of_o post_fw-la vitam_fw-la istam_fw-la parvum_fw-la nondum_fw-la eris_fw-la ubi_fw-la erunt_fw-la sancti_fw-la quibus_fw-la dicetur_fw-la venite_fw-la benedicti_fw-la fatris_fw-la percipite_fw-la regnum_fw-la quod_fw-la vobis_fw-la paratum_fw-la est_fw-la ab_fw-la initio_fw-la mundi_fw-la nondum_fw-la ibi_fw-la eris_fw-la quis_fw-la nescit_fw-la sed_fw-la jam_fw-la poteris_fw-la ibi_fw-la esse_fw-la ubi_fw-la illum_fw-la quondam_a ulcerosum_fw-la pauperem_fw-la dive_v ille_fw-la superbus_fw-la &_o sterilis_fw-la in_o medit_n suis_fw-la tormentis_fw-la vidit_fw-la à_fw-la longè_fw-la qutescentem_fw-la tom._n 8_o in_o psal_n 36._o fol._n 61._o g.h._n austin_n nondum_fw-la ibi_fw-la eris_fw-la qu●s_fw-la nescit_fw-la thou_o shall_v not_o as_o yet_o be_v there_o who_o know_v it_o not_o 2._o it_o be_v confess_v by_o many_o doctor_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o if_o the_o saint_n decease_v do_v not_o hear_v and_o understand_v our_o prayer_n it_o be_v a_o vain_a and_o idle_a thing_n to_o pray_v unto_o they_o if_o this_o say_v 25._o say_v debeatitud_n disp_n 25._o lorca_n be_v not_o suppose_v by_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n she_o will_v first_o pray_v unto_o god_n to_o reveal_v our_o prayer_n and_o then_o will_v put_v up_o her_o petition_n to_o they_o now_o almost_o all_o the_o father_n cite_v by_o t.g._n hold_v that_o the_o dead_a do_v neither_o know_v nor_o be_v acquaint_v with_o our_o petition_n or_o our_o want_n or_o at_o the_o least_o they_o be_v of_o 472._o of_o s●etiam_fw-la ex●ra_fw-la corpus_fw-la positi_fw-la vel_fw-la sancti_fw-la qui_fw-la cum_fw-la christo_fw-la sunt_fw-la agunt_fw-la aliquid_fw-la &_o laboran●_fw-la pro_fw-la nohis_fw-la ad_fw-la similitudinem_fw-la angelorum_fw-la qui_fw-la salu●is_fw-la nost●ae_fw-la ministeria_fw-la procurant_fw-la habeatur_fw-la hoc_fw-la queque_fw-la inter_fw-la occulia_fw-la dei_fw-la ●ee_o char●ulae_fw-la committenda_fw-la mysteria_fw-la orig._n in_o rom._n l._n 2._o p._n 472._o origen_n opinion_n that_o it_o be_v doubtful_a whether_o they_o do_v or_o no._n thus_o ambrose_n speak_v of_o his_o dead_a brother_n say_v do_v thou_o now_o know_v how_o satyri_fw-la how_o si_fw-mi nunc_fw-la urgeri_fw-la italiam_fw-la tam_fw-la propinquo_fw-la bosie_n cognosceres_fw-la quantum_fw-la ingemisceres_fw-la ambros_n de_fw-fr obitu_fw-la sir_n satyri_fw-la italy_n be_v press_v with_o so_o near_o a_o enemy_n how_o will_v thou_o groan_v within_o thyself_o st._n hierom_n in_o nepotians_n epitaph_n profess_v he_o belieu_v he_o b._n he_o quicquid_fw-la dixero_fw-la quia_fw-la ille_fw-la non_fw-la audit_n m●tum_fw-la vide●ur_fw-la f._n 8._o b._n scimus_fw-la quidem_fw-la nepotianum_fw-la nostrum_fw-la esse_fw-la cum_fw-la christo_fw-la &_o sanctorum_fw-la mixtum_fw-la ch●ris_fw-la ib._n 1._o f●lix_fw-la nepotianus_n qui_fw-la haec_fw-la non_fw-la videt_fw-la felix_fw-la qui_fw-la haec_fw-la non_fw-la audit_n p._n 10._o b._n mingle_v among_o the_o choir_n of_o saint_n and_o yet_o he_o add_v whatsoever_o i_o shall_v say_v will_v be_v but_o speak_v to_o the_o deaf_a because_o he_o hear_v not_o and_o again_o happy_a be_v nepotian_n who_o neither_o hear_v nor_o see_v these_o thing_n 13._o thing_n ibi_fw-la ergo_fw-la sunt_fw-la spiritus_fw-la defunctoru●_n ubi_fw-la non_fw-la vident_fw-la quaecunque_fw-la aguntur_fw-la aut_fw-la eveniunt_fw-la in_o isrâ_fw-la vitâ_fw-la hominibus_fw-la de_fw-fr cura_fw-la pro_fw-la mortuis_fw-la c._n 13._o the_o spirit_n of_o dead_a man_n be_v there_o where_o whatsoever_o thing_n be_v do_v or_o happen_v in_o this_o life_n to_o man_n they_o do_v not_o see_v they_o so_o st._n augustine_n and_o therefore_o anselm_n in_o his_o interlineal_a gloss_n upon_o that_o text_n abraham_n be_v ignorant_a of_o we_o note_v thus_o austin_n say_v that_o the_o dead_a do_v not_o know_v what_o the_o live_a do_v else_o where_o he_o be_v less_o positive_a and_o only_o say_v a._n say_v respondeo_fw-la magnam_fw-la quidem_fw-la esse_fw-la quaestionem_fw-la utrum_fw-la vel_fw-la quatenus_fw-la vel_fw-la quomodo_fw-la ea_fw-la quae_fw-la circa_fw-la nos_fw-la aguntur_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ver●nt_fw-la
spiritus_fw-la mor●norum_fw-la august_n in_o psal_n 108._o enar._n 1._o p._n 276_o a._n whether_o at_o all_o or_o how_o far_o or_o after_o what_o manner_n the_o spirit_n of_o the_o dead_a can_v know_v the_o thing_n that_o be_v do_v here_o be_v a_o great_a question_n and_o the_o like_a doubt_n we_o find_v in_o nazianzen_n in_o his_o rhetorical_a apostrophe_n for_o in_o his_o invective_n against_o julian_n he_o speak_v thus_o eton._n thus_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 2._o ed._n eton._n hear_v o_o thou_o soul_n of_o great_a constantius_n if_o thou_o have_v any_o understanding_n of_o these_o thing_n and_o as_o many_o soul_n of_o the_o king_n before_o he_o as_o love_v christ_n where_o the_o greek_a scholiast_n upon_o that_o parenthesis_n nut_v this_o note_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o speak_v according_a to_o the_o manner_n of_o isocrates_n meaning_n if_o thou_o have_v any_o power_n to_o hear_v the_o thing_n that_o be_v here_o and_o therein_o he_o say_v right_o for_o isocrates_n use_v the_o same_o form_n of_o speech_n both_o in_o his_o evagoras_n and_o in_o his_o aegineticus_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d if_o they_o which_o be_v dead_a have_v sense_n of_o the_o thing_n which_o be_v do_v here_o the_o like_a limitation_n be_v use_v by_o the_o same_o nazianzen_n towards_o the_o end_n of_o the_o funeral_n oration_n which_o he_o make_v upon_o his_o sister_n gorgonia_n where_o he_o speak_v thus_o unto_o she_o gorgon_n she_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d greg._n nazian_n orat._n 2._o in_o gorgon_n if_o thou_o have_v any_o care_n of_o the_o thing_n do_v by_o we_o and_o holy_a soul_n receive_v this_o honour_n from_o god_n that_o they_o have_v any_o feel_n of_o such_o thing_n as_o these_o receive_v this_o oration_n of_o we_o instead_o of_o many_o and_o before_o many_o funeral_n obsequy_n whence_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o foundation_n of_o this_o doctrine_n be_v doubt_v by_o they_o and_o than_o it_o follow_v that_o the_o thing_n itself_o be_v in_o those_o time_n only_a a_o doubtful_a or_o a_o disputable_a point_n and_o therefore_o that_o it_o be_v not_o deliver_v to_o they_o by_o tradition_n or_o confirm_v by_o scripture_n and_o can_v be_v require_v as_o the_o condition_n of_o communion_n without_o schism_n 2._o hence_o we_o have_v just_a reason_n to_o suspect_v that_o in_o those_o other_o passage_n we_o meet_v with_o of_o like_a nature_n these_o word_n if_o thou_o have_v any_o sense_n or_o apprehension_n of_o these_o thing_n when_o they_o be_v not_o express_v may_v very_o well_o be_v understand_v and_o that_o this_o be_v the_o genuine_a import_n of_o their_o rhetorical_a petition_n §_o 4._o observe_v that_o the_o afore_o mention_v father_n do_v often_o speak_v to_o their_o decease_a friend_n in_o such_o a_o manner_n as_o if_o they_o do_v suppose_v they_o present_v although_o they_o do_v not_o think_v they_o so_o to_o be_v thus_o b._n thus_o tom._n 1._o p._n 314._o b._n nazianzen_n when_o ready_a to_o conclude_v his_o funeral_n oration_n upon_o his_o father_n speak_v thus_o what_o say_v thou_o father_n be_v this_o sufficient_a and_o 6._o and_o l._n 1._o contra_fw-la julian_n c._n 6._o austin_n speak_v to_o chrysostom_n who_o have_v be_v dead_a some_o year_n before_o enter_v st._n john_n enter_z and_o sit_v together_o with_o thy_o brethren_n and_o 27._o and_o tom._n 1._o in_o psal_n 50._o p._n 703._o l._n 27._o chrysostom_n to_o david_n thus_o what_o be_v it_o thou_o desire_v david_n thy_o sin_n be_v pardon_v what_o will_v thou_o more_o oh_o david_n go_v give_v god_n thanks_o and_o ever_o glorify_v he_o and_o again_o why_o be_v thou_o trouble_v david_n let_v i_o know_v this_o eton._n this_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 19_o ed._n eton._n nazianzen_n do_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o his_o address_n to_o constantius_n when_o he_o believe_v he_o do_v enjoy_v the_o vision_n of_o god_n for_o thus_o he_o speak_v what_o be_v the_o matter_n oh_o divine_a king_n and_o great_a lover_n of_o our_o 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speak_v 1._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 1._o hear_v you_o who_o live_v at_o present_a and_o hereafter_o shall_v be_v bear_v st._n ambrose_n speak_v unto_o the_o water_n thus_o 22._o thus_o ambros_n l._n 10._o in_o luc._n c._n 22._o oh_o water_n which_o have_v obtain_v to_o be_v the_o sacrament_n of_o christ_n which_o wash_v all_o thing_n and_o be_v not_o wash_v thyself_o thou_o do_v begin_v the_o first_o and_o do_v complete_a the_o perfect_a mystery_n in_o the_o like_a manner_n we_o find_v 5_o find_v de_fw-fr vir._n constantim_fw-la l._n 5_o eusebius_n call_v upon_o piety_n and_o 98._o and_o optat._n l._n 6._o p_o 98._o optatus_n upon_o water_n and_o this_o they_o do_v agreeable_o to_o the_o example_n of_o the_o p●ris_n the_o vos_fw-fr vos_fw-fr albani_n ●umuli_fw-la atque_fw-la luci_fw-la vos_fw-la inquam_fw-la i●ploro_fw-la a●qu_fw-la obtestor_fw-la vosque_fw-la a_fw-la ●banorum_fw-la obru●ae_fw-la arae_fw-la etc._n etc._n orat._n pro_fw-la milone_n p._n 558._o ed._n p●ris_n 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the_o roman_a church_n do_v make_v it_o good_a and_o profitable_a for_o all_o people_n to_o call_v upon_o they_o in_o all_o place_n though_o as_o far_o distant_a from_o they_o as_o be_v earth_n from_o heaven_n or_o as_o one_o corner_n of_o the_o earth_n be_v from_o the_o other_o some_o of_o these_o father_n do_v conceive_v the_o saint_n be_v present_a at_o their_o tomb_n and_o shrine_n and_o be_v so_o they_o may_v attend_v unto_o the_o prayer_n of_o they_o that_o do_v resort_v unto_o they_o thus_o when_o it_o be_v object_v by_o vigilantius_n to_o st._n jerom_n if_o it_o be_v so_o than_o the_o soul_n of_o martyr_n love_v their_o ash_n and_o hover_v still_o about_o they_o and_o be_v always_o there_o lest_o if_o any_o petitioner_n shall_v come_v they_o be_v absent_a shall_v not_o hear_v he_o i_o say_v when_o this_o be_v urge_v by_o vigilantius_n agreeable_o to_o that_o opinion_n which_o then_o begin_v to_o gather_v strength_n and_o to_o be_v own_v in_o the_o christian_a church_n st._n jerom_n do_v not_o as_o t._n g._n deny_v the_o sequel_n but_o lay_v down_o this_o absurd_a and_o monstrous_a tenet_n to_o defend_v it_o that_o sunt_fw-la that_o si_fw-mi agnus_fw-la ubique_fw-la ergo_fw-la &_o high_a qui_fw-la cum_fw-la agno_fw-la sunc_fw-la ubique_fw-la esse_fw-la credend●_fw-la sunt_fw-la if_o the_o lamb_n be_v every_o where_o they_o also_o that_o be_v with_o the_o lamb_n must_v be_v believe_v to_o be_v every_o where_n moreover_o he_o represent_v it_o as_o a_o wicked_a speech_n of_o vigilantius_n vigilant_a vigilantius_n ais_fw-mi enim_fw-la vel_fw-la in_o sinu_fw-la abrahae_fw-la vel_fw-la in_o loco_fw-la refrigerii_fw-la vel_fw-la subter_fw-la aram_fw-la dei_fw-la animas_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la &_o martyrum_fw-la consedisse_fw-la nec_fw-la posse_fw-la de_fw-la suis_fw-la tumulis_fw-la &_o ubi_fw-la vol●erunt_fw-la adesse_fw-la praesentes_fw-la hier._n adversus_fw-la vigilant_a that_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o martyr_n can_v not_o be_v present_a at_o their_o tomb_n never_o suggest_v in_o the_o least_o that_o such_o a_o presence_n be_v needless_a to_o this_o end_n 16._o end_n de_fw-fr cura_fw-la pro_fw-la mortuis_fw-la c._n 16._o st._n austin_n do_v affirm_v that_o either_o the_o martyr_n themselves_o must_v be_v at_o one_o time_n in_o such_o divers_a place_n so_o far_o distant_a from_o one_o another_o viz._n as_o they_o be_v distant_a with_o who_o they_o be_v conceive_v to_o pray_v at_o their_o memorial_n or_o if_o they_o be_v not_o present_a they_o must_v be_v remove_v from_o all_o commerce_n with_o the_o affair_n of_o man_n here_o and_o only_o pray_v in_o general_a for_o the_o necessity_n of_o supplicant_n sulpitius_n upon_o the_o death_n of_o st._n martin_n comfort_v himself_o with_o this_o consideration_n batav_n consideration_n non_fw-la deerit_fw-la nobis_fw-la ille_fw-la mibi_fw-la crede_fw-la non_fw-la deerit_fw-la intererit_fw-la de_fw-la se_fw-la sermocinantibus_fw-la adsiabit_fw-la orantibus_fw-la epist_n 2._o de_fw-la obitu_fw-la &_o appar_fw-la s._n martini_n p._n 533_o ed._n lugd._n batav_n that_o he_o will_v not_o be_v want_v to_o they_o and_o of_o this_o assertion_n he_o immediate_o subjoin_v this_o reason_n viz_o he_o will_v be_v present_a with_o we_o speak_v of_o he_o and_o will_v stand_v by_o we_o when_o we_o pray_v upon_o which_o passage_n the_o scholiast_n observe_v that_o it_o be_v vulgar_o believe_v that_o holy_a martyr_n be_v present_a at_o their_o sepulcher_n that_o this_o be_v also_o the_o opinion_n of_o nazianzen_n basil_n and_o all_o the_o father_n cite_v by_o t.g._n be_v large_o prove_v by_o †_o bochartus_fw-la if_o then_o these_o father_n do_v in_o this_o particular_a maintain_v what_o be_v confess_o erroneous_a why_o may_v they_o not_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o same_o mistake_n touch_v the_o doctrine_n of_o invocation_n of_o the_o saint_n depart_v and_o then_o that_o error_n in_o their_o judgement_n must_v necessary_o give_v rise_v to_o that_o unwarrantable_a practice_n which_o in_o those_o time_n begin_v to_o be_v approve_v have_v in_o general_a lay_v down_o these_o proposition_n 4._o traiteé_v second_o de●l'invoc_n des_fw-fr saint_n c._n 4._o i_o may_v decline_v all_o far_a answer_n to_o what_o t.g._n produce_v from_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o fore_n mention_v father_n in_o favour_n of_o that_o practice_n we_o dispute_v against_o but_o that_o he_o may_v not_o think_v we_o study_v to_o decline_v what_o he_o have_v offer_v we_o proceed_v to_o a_o particular_a reflection_n on_o they_o and_o shall_v endeavour_v to_o demonstrate_v that_o they_o be_v either_o cite_v out_o of_o spurious_a and_o doubtful_a book_n or_o be_v impertinent_o allege_v and_o cor._n sect._n 7._o hom._n 26._o in_o 2_o cor._n 1._o among_o the_o spurious_a or_o doubtful_a author_n we_o reckon_v that_o passage_n cite_v from_o st._n chrysostom_n this_o be_v the_o judgement_n of_o erasmus_n who_o in_o his_o preface_n before_o his_o latin_a translation_n of_o basil_n de_fw-fr spiritu_fw-la sancto_fw-la say_v that_o there_o be_v something_n in_o that_o book_n which_o must_v own_v he_o for_o their_o parent_n who_o mix_v his_o weak_a and_o wordy_a trifle_n with_o the_o sweet_a work_n of_o athanasius_n on_o the_o same_o subject_n and_o who_o in_o this_o epistle_n and_o in_o the_o act_n of_o the_o apostle_n endeavour_v to_o be_v esteem_v chrysostom_n and_o therefore_o when_o erasmus_n come_v to_o the_o seven_o homily_n of_o this_o epistle_n he_o will_v translate_v no_o far_o 2._o this_o passage_n in_o some_o edition_n be_v not_o extant_a though_o these_o edition_n have_v proceed_v from_o the_o hand_n of_o romanist_n 423._o novelty_n of_o popery_n p._n 422_o p._n 423._o 3_o peter_n du_n moulin_n make_v evident_a the_o falsehood_n of_o this_o passage_n and_o the_o word_n precede_v not_o only_o from_o the_o diversity_n of_o the_o stile_n and_o want_v of_o a_o connexion_n with_o the_o precedent_a word_n but_o chief_o from_o the_o doctrine_n so_o full_a of_o ignorance_n &_o 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christian_a world_n whereas_o 1._o it_o be_v certain_a st._n cyprian_n be_v never_o in_o his_o life_n a_o sorcerer_n 1._o pag._n 1._o for_o pontius_n his_o deacon_n who_o have_v write_v his_o life_n assure_v we_o that_o whilst_o he_o be_v a_o heathen_a he_o be_v addict_v to_o good_a art_n and_o such_o as_o tend_v to_o the_o benefit_n of_o the_o world_n which_o sure_o no_o christian_n will_v affirm_v of_o a_o '_o magician_n 2._o whereas_o this_o fable_n ascribe_v his_o conversion_n to_o justina_n or_o the_o experience_n of_o his_o vain_a attempt_n upon_o she_o this_o pontius_n whole_o omit_v that_o fable_n and_o do_v assure_v we_o that_o he_o be_v convert_v by_o 2._o by_o erat_fw-la sane_fw-la illi_fw-la etam_fw-la de_fw-la nebis_fw-la contubern_v they_o viri_fw-la justi_fw-la &_o laud_n ibilis_fw-la memoriae_fw-la cecilii_fw-la &_o aetatetune_n &_o honore_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la qui_fw-la eum_fw-la ad_fw-la agnition●m_fw-la verae_fw-la divinita●is_fw-la a_o saeculari_fw-la errore_fw-la correxerat_fw-la p._n 2._o cecilius_n a_o carthaginian_a presbyter_n 3._o 5._o 3._o explosâ_fw-la fabula_fw-la
advantage_n to_o our_o cause_n the_o father_n speak_v upon_o this_o text_n if_o we_o have_v nothing_o more_o to_o say_v but_o what_o they_o have_v deliver_v on_o these_o word_n yet_o shall_v we_o have_v what_o be_v abundant_o sufficient_a to_o confirm_v our_o faith_n and_o justify_v that_o imputation_n which_o we_o lie_v upon_o the_o cburch_n of_o rome_n for_o first_o they_o do_v express_o say_v that_o this_o exposition_n of_o t._n g._n and_o his_o infallible_a mother_n be_v not_o only_o false_a but_o a_o heretical_a exposition_n 15._o exposition_n ac_fw-la si_fw-la aliquis_fw-la haereticus_fw-la pertinaciter_fw-la obluctans_fw-la adversus_fw-la veritatem_fw-la voluerit_fw-la in_o his_o omnibus_fw-la exemplis_fw-la proprie_fw-la angelum_fw-la aut_fw-la intelligere_fw-la aut_fw-la intelligendum_fw-la esse_fw-la contenderit_fw-la in_o hoc_fw-la quoque_fw-la viribus_fw-la veritatis_fw-la frangatur_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la de_fw-fr trin._n c._n 15._o if_o any_o heretic_n say_v novatian_n who_o pertinacious_o strive_v against_o the_o truth_n will_v have_v we_o in_o all_o these_o example_n proper_o to_o understand_v the_o angel_n or_o will_v contend_v for_o such_o a_o sense_n of_o that_o expression_n in_o this_o he_o must_v assure_o be_v break_v by_o the_o force_n of_o truth_n this_o exposition_n of_o the_o papist_n say_v st._n cyril_n 115.116_o thesaur_n p._n 115.116_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i.e._n the_o sottish_a exposition_n of_o the_o arian_n the_o exposition_n of_o the_o protestant_n must_v therefore_o be_v both_o true_a and_o orthodox_n 2._o they_o add_v that_o 116._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cyril_n alexandr_n thesaur_n p._n 116._o if_o the_o enemy_n of_o christ_n do_v think_v that_o jacob_n be_v a_o holy_a man_n and_o one_o endn_v with_o the_o prophetic_a spirit_n when_o he_o speak_v these_o word_n they_o may_v be_v well_o ashamed_a to_o charge_v he_o with_o so_o gross_a a_o error_n as_o be_v the_o invocation_n of_o a_o angel_n with_o god_n this_o custom_n therefore_o of_o put_v up_o the_o same_o petition_n in_o the_o same_o sentence_n to_o god_n and_o to_o the_o bless_a angel_n or_o to_o god_n and_o to_o the_o saint_n or_o angel_n must_v be_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v a_o thing_n arr._n thing_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d orat._n 4_o contr_n arr._n exceed_o repugnant_a to_o the_o doctrine_n which_o then_o obtain_v in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o that_o which_o they_o esteem_v the_o 115._o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d b._n cyrill_n alexandr_n thesau_n p._n 115._o gross_a error_n 3_o they_o give_v we_o this_o as_o a_o sufficient_a evidence_n that_o jacob_n speak_v not_o to_o a_o creature_n because_o he_o say_v 260._o orat._n 4._o contra_fw-la arian_n p._n 260._o the_o angel_n that_o deliver_v i_o from_o all_o evil_n hence_o it_o be_v manifest_a say_v athanasius_n and_o st._n cyril_n that_o he_o do_v not_o speak_v of_o a_o create_a angel_n but_o of_o the_o angel_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o 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commend_v unto_o we_o some_o way_n or_o other_o that_o invocation_n which_o they_o themselves_o approve_v and_o if_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v not_o deceive_v we_o do_v know_v to_o be_v exceed_o profitable_a for_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n for_o 1._o we_o can_v without_o blasphemy_n conceive_v that_o christ_n or_o his_o apostle_n want_v the_o knowledge_n of_o that_o great_a advantage_n which_o christian_n may_v receive_v by_o virtue_n of_o this_o supplication_n it_o be_v no_o derogation_n i_o conceive_v from_o t._n g._n or_o his_o partisan_n to_o say_v that_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n know_v as_o well_o as_o they_o what_o be_v the_o proper_a motive_n to_o this_o practice_n and_o what_o be_v the_o benefit_n it_o can_v bring_v to_o the_o christian_a supplicant_n nor_o yet_o to_o say_v that_o they_o as_o hearty_o desire_v the_o welfare_n of_o the_o church_n as_o do_v t._n g._n or_o the_o compiler_n of_o the_o roman_a catechism_n if_o then_o they_o have_v conceive_v as_o they_o do_v they_o will_v undoubted_o have_v be_v as_o exact_v and_o punctual_a in_o this_o injunction_n it_o be_v in_o itself_o so_o high_o prositable_a and_o the_o more_o necessary_a to_o be_v mention_v because_o omit_v in_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n and_o never_o practise_v by_o the_o jew_n especial_o if_o we_o consider_v that_o nothing_o can_v have_v be_v more_o proper_o suggest_v for_o the_o consolation_n of_o all_o christian_n under_o those_o fiery_a trial_n they_o endure_v than_o this_o consideration_n that_o they_o may_v pray_v in_o faith_n as_o do_v the_o roman_a missal_n oh_o most_o glorious_a angel_n the_o most_o high_a have_v give_v thou_o to_o be_v my_o refuge_n let_v then_o no_o evil_n come_v unto_o i_o moreover_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v offer_v this_o as_o a_o present_a help_n in_o trouble_n unto_o this_o refuge_n she_o exhort_v we_o all_o to_o fly_v 190._o fly_v quoties_fw-la gravissima_fw-la cernitaer_fw-mi urgere_fw-la tentatio_fw-la &_o tribulatio_fw-la 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copious_a and_o frequent_a in_o suggest_v consolation_n and_o encouragement_n to_o bear_v with_o joy_n and_o patience_n those_o cruel_a persecution_n with_o which_o the_o primitive_a professor_n of_o christianity_n be_v still_o infest_a and_o perplex_v they_o have_v deliver_v many_o excellent_a discourse_n touch_v the_o comforter_n the_o presence_n of_o their_o saviour_n with_o they_o the_o example_n of_o his_o suffering_n and_o of_o that_o cloud_n of_o witness_n which_o labour_v under_o the_o same_o fiery_a trial_n and_o last_o that_o exceed_a weight_n of_o glory_n which_o they_o shall_v purchase_v by_o those_o suffering_n but_o not_o one_o hint_n have_v they_o vouchsafe_v we_o of_o this_o comfort_n which_o be_v administer_v by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n they_o frequent_o inform_v we_o that_o god_n be_v able_a and_o willing_a to_o preserve_v we_o from_o sustain_v we_o under_o and_o give_v a_o happy_a issue_n to_o our_o trouble_n they_o bid_v we_o arm_v ourselves_o against_o temptation_n by_o faith_n and_o patience_n and_o assiduity_n of_o prayer_n but_o never_o tell_v we_o that_o we_o shall_v pray_v to_o any_o angel_n for_o this_o end_n st._n paul_n when_o buffet_v by_o satan_n messenger_n have_v thrice_o recourse_n unto_o our_o saviour_n but_o never_o unto_o raphael_n or_o michael_n who_o by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v style_v tentatorum_fw-la firma_fw-la propugnacula_fw-la the_o sure_a defender_n of_o the_o tempt_v 11._o 2_o cor_fw-la 1.9_o 10_o 11._o elsewhere_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o be_v press_v above_o pleasure_n and_o above_o strength_n insomuch_o that_o he_o despair_v even_o of_o life_n he_o be_v deliver_v by_o that_o god_n who_o raise_v the_o dead_a in_o who_o say_v he_o we_o trust_v that_o he_o will_v yet_o deliver_v we_o you_o also_o help_v together_o by_o prayer_n for_o we_o this_o he_o express_o tell_v we_o be_v his_o hope_n from_o the_o petition_n of_o survive_v saint_n but_o then_o he_o never_o give_v we_o the_o least_o hint_n of_o the_o like_a expectation_n from_o the_o prayer_n of_o holy_a angel_n nor_o do_v he_o once_o direct_v a_o prayer_n to_o they_o be_v any_o sick_a say_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n 1617._o rituale_fw-la rom._n p._n 117._o ed._n antue_n 1617._o let_v he_o say_v to_o his_o guardian_n angel_n o_o holy_a angel_n of_o god_n assist_v i_o as_o my_o keeper_n to_o all_o the_o saint_n and_o holy_a angel_n let_v he_o say_v o_o all_o you_o holy_a angel_n and_o all_o you_o saint_n intercede_v for_o i_o and_o succour_v i_o be_v any_o sick_a 14.15_o 5_o jam._n 14.15_o say_v the_o apostle_n james_n let_v he_o send_v for_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o church_n and_o let_v they_o pray_v over_o he_o and_o the_o prayer_n of_o faith_n shall_v save_v the_o sick_a have_v he_o believe_v that_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v be_v the_o more_o prevail_a mean_n for_o their_o recovery_n have_v he_o conceive_v it_o proper_a and_o beneficial_a to_o the_o die_a person_n shall_v we_o have_v have_v no_o 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with_o these_o word_n to_o he_o that_o be_v able_a to_o keep_v you_o from_o fall_v 25._o v._o 24_o 25._o and_o to_o present_v you_o faultless_a to_o the_o only_a wise_a god_n our_o saviour_n be_v glory_n and_o majesty_n dominion_n and_o power_n to_o he_o alone_o he_o do_v ascribe_v this_o power_n to_o he_o alone_o he_o give_v the_o glory_n of_o all_o our_o preservation_n nay_o they_o assure_v we_o that_o christ_n have_v not_o subject_v the_o christian_a state_n unto_o the_o angel_n 5._o 2_o heb._n 5._o as_o the_o jewish_a be_v that_o they_o be_v now_o our_o fellow-servant_n and_o therefore_o must_v not_o be_v adore_v and_o that_o we_o must_v be_v cautious_a lest_o any_o do_v obtrude_v upon_o we_o the_o worship_n of_o those_o bless_a spirit_n 18._o 22_o rev._n 9_o 2_o coloss_n 18._o this_o they_o deliver_v without_o the_o least_o suggestion_n of_o any_o of_o those_o limitation_n and_o distinction_n which_o be_v
prayer_n to_o god_n and_o bring_v down_o blessing_n from_o god_n to_o we_o as_o he_o have_v learn_v in_o the_o school_n of_o plato_n lest_o any_o shall_v be_v tempt_v to_o infer_v from_o this_o that_o we_o shall_v pray_v unto_o these_o angel_n or_o that_o it_o be_v useful_a or_o needful_a so_o to_o do_v that_o so_o these_o bless_a spirit_n may_v be_v more_o propicious_a or_o helpful_a to_o we_o he_o do_v express_o say_v that_o 233._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 233._o to_o invoke_v they_o be_v no_o reasonable_a thing_n and_o this_o assertion_n he_o confirm_v by_o many_o argument_n 1._o it_o be_v absurd_a say_v he_o to_o call_v upon_o they_o because_o we_o want_v the_o knowledge_n of_o their_o nature_n and_o because_o it_o be_v above_o the_o reach_n of_o man._n and_o 2._o that_o if_o we_o can_v attain_v unto_o this_o knowledge_n that_o very_a knowledge_n which_o declare_v their_o nature_n and_o their_o offce_n to_o we_o will_v not_o permit_v we_o to_o pray_v to_o any_o other_o but_o unto_o god_n the_o lord_n of_o all_o who_o be_v abundant_o sufficient_a for_o all_o by_o the_o son_n of_o god_n 3._o he_o reckon_v up_o in_o the_o apostle_n language_n all_o the_o kind_n and_o sort_n of_o prayer_n 233._o prayer_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d orig._n contra_fw-la celsum_fw-la l._n 5._o p_o 233._o petition_n deprecation_n intercession_n and_o thanksgiving_n and_o then_o he_o add_v all_o these_o we_o must_v put_v up_o to_o god_n by_o that_o high_a priest_n who_o do_v transcend_v all_o angel_n and_o that_o this_o worship_n in_o any_o of_o the_o kind_n foremention_v be_v therefore_o not_o to_o be_v confer_v upon_o the_o angel_n because_o they_o be_v not_o to_o receive_v ibid._n receive_v ibid._n the_o worship_n due_a to_o god_n 4._o he_o add_v that_o it_o be_v sufficient_a to_o obtain_v the_o favour_n of_o the_o holy_a angel_n and_o the_o assistance_n of_o their_o prayer_n to_o labour_v to_o have_v god_n propitious_a and_o to_o procure_v his_o good_a will_n by_o godliness_n and_o virtue_n and_o by_o imitation_n of_o the_o angel_n piety_n and_o therefore_o not_o only_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o this_o objection_n 233._o lib._n 5._o p._n 233._o but_o elsewhere_o he_o tell_v we_o i_o must_v endeavour_v to_o approve_v ourselves_o to_o he_o who_o be_v one_o god_n over_o all_o and_o we_o must_v pray_v to_o he_o for_o mercy_n and_o that_o if_o celsus_n will_v yet_o have_v we_o to_o procure_v the_o good_a will_n of_o other_o after_o he_o who_o be_v god_n over_o all_o he_o must_v consider_v that_o as_o when_o the_o body_n be_v move_v the_o motion_n of_o the_o shadow_n thereof_o do_v follow_v so_o in_o like_a manner_n have_v god_n favourable_a unto_o we_o who_o be_v over_o all_o it_o follow_v that_o we_o shall_v have_v all_o his_o friend_n both_o angel_n and_o soul_n and_o spirit_n love_v unto_o we_o for_o they_o have_v a_o fellow_n feel_v with_o they_o that_o be_v think_v worthy_a to_o find_v favour_n from_o god_n to_o who_o they_o be_v not_o only_o favourable_a but_o they_o pray_v with_o they_o so_o as_o we_o may_v be_v bold_a to_o say_v that_o when_o man_n which_o with_o resolution_n propose_v unto_o themselves_o the_o best_a thing_n do_v pray_v unto_o god_n many_o thousand_o of_o the_o sacred_a power_n pray_v together_o with_o they_o unspeak_a to_o moreover_o when_o celsus_n affirm_v 420._o id._n l._n 8._o p._n 420._o that_o thanks_o be_v to_o be_v give_v to_o daemon_n and_o that_o our_o prayer_n and_o first_o fruit_n be_v to_o be_v offer_v to_o they_o 396._o they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d l._n 8._o p._n 396._o that_o so_o we_o may_v obtain_v their_o presence_n with_o we_o and_o their_o favour_n to_o we_o who_o have_v obtain_v of_o god_n to_o be_v dispenser_n of_o inferior_a thing_n to_o this_o it_o be_v reply_v by_o origen_n 1._o that_o god_n have_v give_v no_o such_o government_n to_o daemon_n 400._o daemon_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id._n ib._n p._n 400._o 2._o that_o first_o fruit_n must_v be_v offer_v to_o god_n alone_o who_o say_v let_v the_o earth_n bring_v forth_o fruit_n and_o to_o he_o to_o who_o the_o christian_n offer_v their_o first_o fruit_n they_o offer_v also_o their_o petition_n 3._o he_o do_v acknowledge_v that_o office_n which_o celsus_n have_v ascribe_v to_o wicked_a daemon_n do_v agree_v to_o angel_n who_o upon_o that_o account_n in_o scripture_n be_v style_v minister_a spirit_n and_o do_v encamp_v about_o god_n servant_n for_o their_o protection_n and_o deliverance_n but_o lest_o we_o shall_v infer_v with_o celsus_n that_o we_o must_v therefore_o pray_v unto_o they_o to_o be_v thus_o propicious_a he_o add_v we_o shall_v sufficient_o obtain_v their_o favour_n by_o imitation_n of_o their_o piety_n and_o invocation_n of_o that_o god_n to_o who_o they_o pray_v for_o thus_o he_o speak_v if_o we_o have_v a_o desire_n to_o a_o multitude_n who_o we_o will_v willing_o have_v to_o be_v favourable_a unto_o we_o 400._o l._n 8._o p._n 400._o we_o learn_v that_o thousand_o thousand_o stand_n by_o he_o and_o million_o of_o million_o minister_n unto_o he_o who_o behold_v they_o that_o imitate_v their_o piety_n towards_o god_n as_o if_o they_o be_v their_o kinsfolk_n and_o friend_n help_v forward_o their_o salvation_n and_o call_v upon_o god_n and_o pray_v sincere_o appear_v also_o and_o think_v that_o they_o ought_v to_o do_v service_n to_o they_o and_o as_o it_o be_v upon_o one_o watchword_n to_o set_v forth_o for_o the_o benefit_n and_o salvation_n of_o they_o that_o pray_v to_o god_n unto_o who_o they_o themselves_o also_o pray_v now_o to_o all_o these_o and_o all_o the_o argument_n that_o any_o man_n can_v bring_v t._n g._n return_v this_o answer_n 360._o §._o 3._o p._n 360._o viz._n that_o prayer_n imply_v either_o a_o total_a dependence_n upon_o god_n as_o the_o author_n of_o all_o good_a and_o so_o we_o ought_v to_o pray_v to_o god_n alone_o or_o a_o address_n unto_o the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n triumphant_a for_o the_o assistance_n of_o their_o prayer_n to_o he_o who_o only_o can_v give_v what_o we_o ask_v and_o in_o this_o sense_n it_o be_v still_o use_v by_o roman_a catholic_n when_o it_o be_v apply_v to_o saint_n and_o angel_n when_o therefore_o origen_n deny_v that_o our_o prayer_n be_v to_o be_v offer_v to_o any_o but_o to_o christ_n alone_o he_o speak_v of_o prayer_n in_o the_o first_o sense_n this_o be_v that_o catholic_n answer_n which_o upon_o all_o occasion_n he_o produce_v this_o origen_n and_o all_o the_o father_n mean_v very_o it_o be_v this_o and_o nothing_o else_o not_o that_o the_o father_n of_o the_o four_o first_o century_n when_o they_o so_o roundly_o and_o frequent_o assert_v that_o prayer_n be_v to_o be_v offer_v unto_o god_n alone_o do_v ever_o thus_o distinguish_v or_o speak_v one_o title_n of_o this_o nature_n no_o simple_a creature_n as_o they_o be_v they_o absolute_o and_o without_o all_o distinction_n condemn_v what_o they_o daily_o practise_v and_o practise_v what_o they_o have_v condemn_v they_o all_o speak_v what_o be_v absolute_o false_a and_o mean_v only_o what_o be_v true_a so_o that_o no_o man_n can_v have_v imagine_v this_o to_o have_v be_v their_o meaning_n have_v not_o t._n g._n be_v their_o interpreter_n thus_o when_o origne_n express_o say_v 402._o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d l._n 8._o p._n 402._o it_o be_v no_o reasonable_a thing_n to_o pray_v unto_o the_o angel_n 258._o angel_n l._n 5._o p._n 258._o we_o must_v only_o pray_v to_o god_n and_o to_o his_o son_n christ_n jesus_n he_o nu_v affirm_v what_o be_v a_o plain_a and_o absolute_a contradiction_n to_o the_o church_n doctrine_n but_o then_o his_o meaning_n must_v be_v orthodox_n and_o contradictory_n to_o what_o he_o do_v assert_v when_o he_o add_v almost_o by_o way_n of_o syllogism_n to_o who_o we_o christian_n offer_v our_o first_o fruit_n to_o he_o we_o offer_v up_o our_o prayer_n but_o to_o god_n alone_o we_o offer_v up_o our_o first_o fruit_n ergo_fw-la to_o he_o alone_o we_o offer_v up_o our_o prayer_n when_o he_o inform_v we_o that_o the_o christian_n be_v such_o as_o do_v not_o pray_v to_o angel_n but_o undivide_o and_o inseparable_o do_v worship_n god_n by_o jesus_n christ_n 382._o l._n 8._o p._n 382._o and_o come_v to_o god_n by_o christ_n alone_o and_o so_o as_o to_o transcend_v even_o those_o bless_a spirit_n which_o be_v call_v god_n he_o must_v apparent_o bely_v the_o christian_a world_n according_a to_o the_o plain_a interpretation_n of_o his_o word_n but_o his_o intention_n must_v be_v orthodox_n and_o yet_o 3._o he_o do_v not_o only_o deny_v the_o doctrine_n and_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o time_n wherein_o he_o live_v but_o he_o destroy_v
a_o little_a after_o that_o to_o they_o it_o be_v give_v to_o preside_v over_o the_o earth_n or_o to_o be_v patron_n or_o inspector_n of_o such_o a_o city_n or_o of_o such_o a_o country_n and_o upon_o that_o account_n infer_v we_o must_v both_o pray_v and_o offer_v our_o thandsgiving_n and_o first_o fruit_n unto_o they_o to_o all_o this_o origen_n reply_n that_o we_o must_v offer_v up_o our_o prayer_n to_o god_n alone_o and_o we_o must_v pray_v to_o he_o alone_o to_o who_o we_o offer_v our_o first_o fruit_n in_o both_o which_o place_n if_o origen_n intend_v only_o to_o affirm_v that_o prayer_n be_v due_a to_o god_n which_o imply_v the_o object_n of_o our_o supplication_n to_o be_v the_o high_a god_n and_o the_o chief_a author_n of_o all_o good_a it_o be_v apparent_a he_o do_v not_o in_o the_o least_o deny_v what_o celsus_n plead_v for_o viz._n such_o supplication_n as_o he_o conceive_v due_a to_o such_o daemon_n as_o be_v commissionated_a from_o god_n and_o belong_v to_o he_o 5._o this_o answer_n render_v the_o discourse_n of_o this_o learned_a father_n rediculous_o weak_a and_o unconcluding_a as_o v._o g._n 1._o we_o can_v rational_o pray_v to_o angel_n say_v this_o learned_a father_n because_o we_o do_v not_o know_v their_o nature_n nor_o be_v we_o capable_a of_o the_o knowledge_n of_o they_o 233._o lib._n 5._o p._n 233._o which_o if_o we_o understand_v it_o thus_o we_o know_v not_o what_o their_o understanding_n be_v or_o whether_o they_o have_v any_o knowledge_n of_o our_o heart_n when_o present_a or_o of_o our_o prayer_n when_o absent_a and_o therefore_o do_v not_o conceive_v it_o rational_a to_o pray_v unto_o they_o it_o be_v both_o pertinent_a and_o conclusive_a but_o if_o we_o understand_v it_o thus_o we_o must_v not_o pray_v unto_o they_o as_o we_o do_v to_o the_o great_a god_n of_o heaven_n because_o we_o do_v not_o know_v their_o nature_n nothing_o be_v more_o absurd_a and_o foolish_a for_o certain_o all_o christian_n know_v so_o much_o of_o their_o nature_n as_o to_o believe_v they_o be_v not_o go_n beside_o we_o neither_o know_v the_o nature_n of_o god_n nor_o be_v we_o capable_a of_o understand_v it_o and_o yet_o it_o will_v not_o follow_v that_o we_o we_o may_v not_o pray_v unto_o he_o 239._o lib._n 5._o p._n 239._o as_o to_o the_o author_n of_o all_o good_n again_o it_o be_v absurd_a say_v he_o have_v god_n always_o present_a with_o we_o to_o pray_v unto_o the_o son_n which_o be_v not_o always_o present_a now_o this_o absurdity_n do_v equal_o respect_v prayer_n relative_a and_o absolute_a for_o if_o the_o son_n can_v hear_v our_o prayer_n and_o can_v obtain_v god_n blessing_n when_o he_o be_v not_o present_a it_o can_v be_v absurd_a to_o pray_v unto_o he_o because_o not_o present_a but_o if_o he_o can_v then_o must_v it_o be_v absurd_a to_o put_v up_o to_o he_o such_o petition_n as_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v tender_a to_o the_o holy_a angel_n moreover_o we_o do_v not_o in_o the_o least_o contemn_v say_v he_o so_o admirable_a a_o work_n of_o god_n but_o yet_o we_o must_v not_o pray_v unto_o the_o creature_n or_o this_o work_n of_o god_n 238._o lib._n 5._o p._n 238._o because_o it_o pray_v for_o we_o now_o here_o can_v any_o man_n conceive_v he_o shall_v intend_v no_o more_o but_o this_o you_o must_v not_o look_v on_o that_o as_o the_o supreme_a deity_n which_o i_o have_v tell_v you_o be_v his_o creature_n no_o sure_a have_v he_o and_o all_o the_o christian_a world_n pray_v daily_o to_o they_o who_o do_v pray_v for_o we_o he_o will_v have_v rather_o say_v you_o must_v not_o pray_v unto_o he_o as_o to_o that_o god_n who_o be_v the_o author_n of_o all_o good_a because_o he_o be_v a_o creature_n 6._o when_o origen_n discourse_v of_o this_o subject_n he_o usual_o say_v that_o we_o must_v put_v up_o our_o petition_n unto_o god_n by_o christ_n and_o have_v once_o confess_v that_o we_o may_v pray_v direct_o to_o christ_n who_o he_o conceive_v to_o be_v inferior_a to_o the_o father_n he_o make_v that_o very_a same_o distinction_n which_o our_o author_n and_o his_o party_n do_v viz._n 233._o viz._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d l._n 5._o p._n 233._o that_o prayer_n may_v be_v take_v proper_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o a_o improper_a and_o abusive_a sense_n and_o in_o this_o sense_n alone_o he_o do_v approve_v of_o prayer_n make_v to_o christ_n whereas_o have_v he_o allow_v of_o any_o prayer_n make_v to_o saint_n and_o angel_n it_o be_v to_o be_v presume_v have_v so_o many_o provocation_n and_o occasion_n to_o treat_v upon_o and_o to_o explain_v the_o subject_n he_o will_v have_v sometime_o use_v this_o distinction_n and_o will_v not_o always_o have_v deny_v this_o practice_n and_o condemn_v that_o doctrine_n without_o distinction_n or_o exception_n elsewhere_o he_o say_v if_o any_o man_n be_v not_o sufficient_a viz._n to_o go_v direct_o to_o god_n let_v he_o go_v to_o the_o son_n of_o god_n who_o be_v able_a to_o heal_v he_o since_o than_o he_o never_o say_v as_o do_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n let_v he_o go_v to_o saint_n and_o angel_n certain_a it_o be_v that_o he_o do_v not_o approve_v this_o practice_n and_o this_o be_v yet_o more_o evident_a from_o his_o reply_n to_o celsus_n 416._o orig._n lib._n 8._o p._n 416._o for_o when_o celsus_n have_v object_v that_o according_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o egyptian_n every_o part_n of_o a_o man_n have_v a_o particular_a daemon_n or_o aethereal_a god_n and_o every_o one_o of_o these_o be_v invocate_v heal_v the_o disease_n of_o the_o part_n proper_a to_o themselves_o why_o then_o may_v not_o the_o christian_n just_o invocate_v the_o favour_n both_o of_o they_o and_o other_o if_o they_o have_v rather_o be_v in_o health_n than_o sickness_n to_o this_o it_o be_v reply_v by_o origen_n 1._o that_o celsus_n by_o advise_v we_o to_o go_v to_o daemon_n sufficient_o declare_v his_o distrust_n of_o the_o inseparable_a and_o undivided_a worship_n of_o the_o god_n of_o all_o 417._o lib._n 8._o p._n 417._o and_o do_v imagine_v that_o to_o worship_n god_n alone_o and_o honour_v he_o be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o preserve_v those_o that_o do_v so_o from_o disease_n and_o the_o insidiation_n of_o evil_a spirit_n which_o be_v a_o evident_a conviction_n that_o he_o do_v not_o think_v the_o invocation_n of_o the_o archangel_n gabriel_n michael_n raphael_n or_o of_o sebastian_n valentinus_n or_o any_o other_o roman_a saint_n which_o they_o of_o rome_n do_v daily_o invocate_v for_o their_o protection_n from_o these_o evil_a spirit_n and_o the_o disease_n which_o they_o be_v subject_a to_o be_v needful_a for_o that_o end_n or_o that_o it_o can_v be_v practise_v without_o distrust_v of_o the_o all-sufficient_a god_n 2._o he_o add_v it_o be_v much_o better_a to_o commit_v ourselves_o to_o god_n the_o lord_n of_o all_o thing_n by_o jesus_n christ_n and_o ask_v of_o he_o all_o help_n 418._o lib._n 8._o p._n 418._o and_o in_o particular_a the_o custody_n of_o the_o holy_a 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