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A03885 A summary of controuersies Wherein are briefly treated the cheefe questions of diuinity, now a dayes in dispute betweene Catholikes & protestants: especially out of the holy Scripture. Written in Latin by the R. Father, Iames Gordon Huntley of Scotland, Doctour of Diuinity, of the Society of Iesus. And translated into English by I.L. of the same Society. The I. tome, deuided into two controuersies.; Controversiarum epitomes. English Gordon, James, 1541-1620.; Wright, William, 1563-1639. 1618 (1618) STC 13998; ESTC S104309 167,262 458

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visible and inuisible and they say that the inuisible Church cannot erre but Supr hac ipsa cont cap. 4. the visible may erre But we haue now already declared that the true Church of Christ must needes be visible Wherfore this distinction is now sufficiently refuted And truly it importeth but a little whether that their inuisible Church can erre or not erre seing that it cannot be seene or knowne of any and consequently cannot be profitable vnto any 16. There are also some of the later Sectaries who distinguish and deuide the Church into the Church of the Saints which Iunius in Bellarm. Contr. 1. l. 4. c. 10. nota 8. are in Heauen and into that which remayneth fighting heere vpon earth And they say that the Church triumphāt of Saints cannot erre in faith or in the doctrine of faith but the Church militant may erre But this is a ridiculous distinction First Hebr. 21. v. 1. because the Saints hauen ot fayth but a cleare vision of God for as the Apostle witnesseth Fayth concerneth things which doe not appeare wherefore if at any tyme faith perished vpon earth without al doubt it could not be found in heauen neyther must we exprect the doctrine of fayth from heauen as the Anabaptists doe who seeke for reuelations from heauen but we must looke to receiue it from the Supr c. 1. huius controuersiae Church militant vpon earth Moreouer the properties and offices of the Church of Christ before alledged out of holy Scripture do not agree as is manifest to the Church triumphant of Saints but to the Church militāt vpon earth For neither is that Church of the Saints betrothed vnto Christ by fayth neyther are the Saynts those who preach vnto vs the word of God who administer the Sacramēts vnto vs who execute the other offices of the Church but men liuing vpō earth wherfore they runne in vaine to this heauenly Church wherof we do not here dispute 17. Moreouer that is also a very weake reason wherby they thinke that Iunius ibid. nota 8. they conuince that the Church militant vpon earth may erre This Church sayth he militant vpon earth is imperfect and therfore she may erre euen in explicating the doctrine of sayth for otherwise a perfect effect might proceed 1. Cor. 13● per totū caput from an imperfect cause So ●e As though forsooth there could be no other imperfection in the Church besids infidelity or error in explicating the doctrine of fayth or as though the whole perfection of the Church consisted in fayth only and in the doctrine thereof and not also in charity and other gifte● of God as the Apostle declareth at large Or lastly as though this perfection of the Church which consisteth in a right fayth and a good explication of the doctrine thereof could proceede from the militant Church only and not rather from a most perfect cause to wit from the holy Ghost who continually ad Rom. 8. v. 26. gouerneth the Church and as the Apostle sayth helpeth her infirmity and imperfection 18. Lastly when our Aduersaries Ita Philip Mor. Tract de Eccles cap. 9. Genes 3. v. 6. can by no places of Scripture nor other reasons proue that the Church hath erred they g●e about to persuade i● by many examples And heere they be●in a discourse frō our first Father Adam till these our da●es For first they say that Adam lost his fayth and so lykewise his wy●e Eue when they both eate of the for●idd●n fruit consequently the wholy Church then erred in fayth Then they runne through all the old Testament till Christs tyme and heap togeather many places which say that those who liued in the tyme of the Naturall Moysaicall Laws forsooke God Lastly out of some Historiographers who haue writtē since Christs tyme they scrape togeather all such testimonies as s●eme to serue to this purpose in any sort 19. But they labour in vayne For if these kinds of argumēts were good they would also proue that the Church it selfe also wholy perished and was not to be found in any place as in tymes past the Donatists contended the which euen our Aduersaries themselues acknowledge to by very absurd and against the holy Scriptures as hath beene declared before For if all haue lost their fayth then indeed the true Church could no longer be which without fayth cannot consist and thus the whole Church had perished 20. But that which they affirme of Adā and ●ue to wit that they lost their fayth by sinning is of no moment at all For to omit that they do not so much proue by that argumēt that they lost their fayth then that after their sinne there remayned neyther any fayth nor Church in the world it is truly manifest inough that this belongeth nothing to this disputation we now handle For neyther do we heere dispute of the Church of Angells nor of that which was in Paradise before the fall of our first parēts but of that only Gen. 3 v. 15. which ensued that promise made vnto all mankind after the sinne of Adam wherein God foretould that there should be perpetuall enmity betwixt the woman and the serpent that is to say betwixt the Church of Christ and Satan And wherein also God foretould that the Church should alwayes haue the victory Supra cōtrou 1. cap 16. 17. 18. ouer Satan as we haue declared more at large before Wherfore our Aduersaries must needes shew this promise to be frustrate if they desire to conclude any thing against vs. 21. But those examples which they Supra cap. 5. in solut 2. argumenti alledge our of the old Testament are the very arguments of the Donatists and other auncient Heretikes who by them went about to proue that the true Church was wholy decayed and perished wherunto we haue also sufficiently answered out of S. Augustine 22. And lastly those thinges which they haue takē out of those Authors who wrote after Christs tyme are eyther corrupted by our Aduersaries or taken out of Apocriphall Authors and such as are Baron in 12. Tom. Annal. not worthy of credit as the worthy Cardinall Baronius declareth manifestly in euery age in his Ecclesiasticall histories and the same hath Bellarmine done before Bellarm. l. 3. de Eccles militante him more briefly vnto whome we refer the Reader because they do not appertaine to this present question but rather vnto that which is of the continuall duration of the Church the which now almost euery one doth acknowledge and Supr c. 3. 4. buius Controu which we haue sufficiently declared before wherefore these arguments are of so small worth that they need no longer a confutation CHAP. VIII That there is no lawfull Calling of Preachers or Pastours of the Church but by the visible Church ONE of the Offices of the true Church is to appoint lawfull preachers of the Ghospell and true administers of
32. Christ hath but one spouse and acknowledgeth no other They shal be two in one flesh but I sayth the Apostle speake in Christ in the Church So also Christ speaketh of the Church my doue and my persect is one Cant. 6. v. 8. Christ is not an adulterer neyther doth he beget any children of an adulteresse For this cause saith S. Cyprian the spouse of Christ cannot be an adulte●esse ●he is not corrupted S. Cyp● in tra●● de vnit E●cles and she is chast And a little after VVhosoeuer be●ng separated from the Church is ioyned to an adul●er●sse he is separated from the promises of the Chu●ch Neyther shall he euer attaine to the rewards S. Aug. Tom. 9. de ●ymh ad Ca●h lib. 4. c vlt. of Christ who teares the Church of Christ He is an al●ene he is prophane he is an enemy he cannot haue God for his Father who hath not the Church for his Mother Thus he which last words S. Augustin repeateth out of him 2. Secondly he that is without the body of Christ cannot receyue the spirit of Christ nor be partaker of the lyfe and Rom. 8. v. 9. S. Aug. Tom. 29. tract 2. in oan merits of Christ But he who hath not the spirit of Christ is not his as witnesseth the Apostle S. Augustine d●clareth this very well by the example of a mans body whose members cannot liue vnlesse they be ioyned to the body Another reasō also S. Augustine alledgeth taken from the forsaid property of the Church None sayth he obtayneth saluatiō euerlasting lyse but he who S. Aug Tom. 7. de vnit Ecc. c. 19. hat● Christ to be his head But none can haue Christ to be his head but he who is in ●is body which is the Church So sayth S. Augustine 4. Thirdly the Name only of a Mother doth proue this sufficiently For none can be conceyued nor borne without a mother and the child which is borne if it leaue to sucke the mothers breasts will perish for hunger By which argument euen our wisest Aduersaries are conuinced For both Caluin ●nd Beza doe confesse Calu. l. 4. nstit c 1. Beza cap. 5. Confess Art 1. this that euen the name only of a mother doth conuince that which we haue sayd to be true yea also the Scripture doth oftē testify that out of the bosome of the Church we cannot hope for the rem●ssion of our sinnes nor euerlasting saluation and that the going out of the true Church was alwaies hatefull And hence it commeth to passe that in the Creed of the Apostles first we belieue the holy Catholike Church and then the remission of sinnes and lyfe euerlasting because indeed without this Church none can obtaine eyther remissiō of their sinnes or life euerlasting CHAP. III. That the Church of Christ is to continue for euer THE second errour of our Aduersaries is that many of them affirme that the Church of Christ hath not continually endured but that it sometymes fayled This error may also be easily refuted by the forsayd propertyes offices of the Church For first the Church is the spouse of Christ of which he speaketh by the Prophet I will betroth thee vnto me for euer Christ therfore did not b●troth his Church vnto him Ose 2. v. 19. for a few yeares only 2. Secondly the Church is the Body of Christ but Christ cannot be without his Rom. 12. v. 5. body And truly it were a monstrous thing to see a liuing head without a body 3. Thirdly the Church is the Kingdome of Christ but the Scriptures doe teach in many places that this Kingdome Psa● 83. ve 89. v. 36. of Christ shall continue for euer as Micheae 4. v. 7. Daniel 2. v. 44. Ierem. 33. v. 20. 21. Luc. 1. 32. 33. Lastly Christ sweareth in his Holy One that is to say by his Holines that the Kingdome of Christ shall last for euer Wherefore they endeauour to make Christ himself periured who affirme that the Kingdome of Christ sometymes perished 4. Fourthly the Church is the House Matt. 17. v. 18. of Christ the which he built vpon a rocke and against which the gates of hell shall neuer preuaile 5. Fifthly the same is proued be the 1. Cor. 11. v. 26. offices of the Church The Church shall shew the death of our Lord vntil he come God also gaue some as Apostles and Doctors who should Ephes 4. v. 11. teach and rule the Church vntill we meet all in Christ in the end of the world When Christ also sent his Disciples to teach all Nations and to administer the Sacramēts he added this promise Behould I am with Matt. vlt. v. vlt. you all dayes euen to the consūmation of the world By which words as S. Hierome wel noteth he sheweth that they are to liue alwayes and that he is neuer departed from the faithfull belieuers 6. Lastly our Aduersaries themselues being cōuiuced with the truth of this matter do acknowledge that the holy Calu. lib. 4. Instit c. 1. sect 17. in fine Scriptures do testify this in many places For Caluin and Beza to omit many others do acknowledge and proue this out of the Scriptures Seeing that sayth Beza the Kingdome of Iesus Christ is continuall it Beza c. 5. Confess art 1. necessarily followeth that there haue alwaies byn some to be found who did acknowledge him for their King CHAP. IIII. That this Church which hath alwaies continued hath alwaies byn visible THE third errour of our Aduersaries is that they deny the Church of Christ to haue byn alwayes visible For seing that they cannot deny but that the Church of Christ hath alwayes continued as we haue declared in in the precedent Chapter and whē we demaund of them where their Church was for the space of a thousand yeares and more they fly vnto a certaine inuisible Church which they say lay hidden for many yeares But this errour also is easily refuted by the for said properties and offices of the true Church 2. For first the Church is the body of Christ but this body of Christ was visible 1. Cor. 1● vers 27. for the Apostle spake vnto visible men when he sayd you are the body of Christ Moreouer we are made the body of Christ by baptisme and the receiuing of the Eucharist 1. Cor. 10. v. 17. 1. Cor. 12. v. 13. Ephes 4. v. 11. 12. as witnesseth the Apostle But these Sacraments are visible Also in this body of Christ there are Doctors and Pastors vntill the consūmatiō of Saynts vntil we meet with Christ but such persons are also visible The building also of the Church is visible this consūmation of Saynts is visible that worke of ministery is visible which the Apostle sayth shall continue vntill the comming of Christ 2. Secondly the Church is the Kingdome of Christ but euery Kingdome cōprehendeth in it a visible company of mē who all acknowledge one
King Hence it is that God describing by the Prophet Ieremy this Kingdome of Christ speaketh in this sorte of the multitude of men which shal be in the Kingdome of Christ Euen as saith our Lord the stars of Heauen Ierem. 31. v. 32. cannot be numbred and the sands of the sea measured so will I multiply the seed of my seruant Dauid and the Leuits my seruants But such and so great a multitude of men cannot be inuisible 4. In like manner the Prophet Isay describing the said Kingdome of Christ and the Couenant of God with it thus writeth I will make a perpetuall league with Isa 61. v. 8. 9. them and their seed shal be knowne in all Nations and their of spring in the middest of the people all that shall see them shall know them because this is the seed that God hath blessed Where it is manyfestly sayd that all Nations euen the Infidels assoone as they shall behould and see the Church they shall easily know her by the benefits of God bestowed vpon her Caluin himselfe Calu in hae●●erba Isaiae acknowledgeth this to be spoken of the Church and he addeth that this hath not only once been fullfilled but is daily fulfilled 5. Lastly if this Kingdome of Christ were sometymes invisible God himselfe which God forbidde we should say were periured who sweareth that the throne of Christ that is to say his Kingdome Psal 8● vel 89. shal be like the sunne and as a perfect moone and that for euer but the sunne and the perfect or full moone are very visible planets easily to be seene of all men and not inuisible 6. Thirdly the Church of God is that Isa 2. v. ● Mi●h 4. ● 1. Psal 47. vel 48. v. 9. Dan. 2 v. 35. Matt. 5 v. 14 15. Citty which is situated vpon a most high Mountaine yea vpon a Mountayne which is placed vpon the top of mountayn● the which our Lord will strēgthen for euer wherof Christ himselfe speaketh A Citty placed vpon a mōntayne cannot be hidden And agayne You are the light of the world neyther do they light ● candle and put it vnder a bushell but vpon a cadelsticke that it may giue light vnto all which are in the house Christ therefore hath made his S. Aug. Tom. 9. in 1. Ep. Ioan. Tract 2. Church not to hide it but that it might be perspicuous manifest vnto all heerupon S. Augustine VVhat more sayth he shall I say but that they are blind who do not see so great a mountayne who shut their eyes against a candle placed vpon a candlesticke And in S. Aug. Tom. 7. de vnit Ecc. c. 1. another place he saith that those who see not the Church had rather as it were blindfold offend against this mountaine then climbe vp vnto it 7. Fourthly the same is proued by the foresayd offices of the Church for that Church must necessarily be visible which conceyueth and bringeth forth Infidells to Christ by the preaching of the Ghospell for neyther they which do preach are invisible but visible and the preaching also is visible and not inuisible That Church also is visible which nourisheth Christians with her publicke exhortations instructions and ministration of Sacraments and good examples which explicateth and keepeth the Luc. 10. v. 16. Matt. 18. v. 17. Scriptures who gouerneth and prescribeth Lawe and precepts whome therfore we must obey And she is visible vnto whome according to the commaundment of Christ all complaints and causes are to be brought And Lastly she is visible of whome in our aduersities we must demaund help and comfort who publickly confesseth Christ who fighteth with the serpent and getting the victory triumpheth against him and moreouer she exerciseth all those offices which are before alledged Supra c. 1. 8. Fifthly if the visible Church should once perish that article of the Creed were fals I belieue in the Catholik Church the Communion of Saints For that Church which is Catholike or vniuersall cannot be inuisible that Church which is dilated Psal 88. v. 33. or spread abroad throughout the whole world cannot be but very visible and conspicuous and that not in one only place but in many And hence it commeth to passe that the true Church is cōpared to the Sunne and the Moone the which are very visible planets and easily to be seene of all Neyther can there be this belieued cōmunion of Saints vnlesse the said Saints mutually be manifest and 1 Cor. v. 12. 21. 26. visible one vnto another seing that this communication as the Apostle saith consisteth in the continuall help which one member affoardeth vnto another but none can affoard any help to that which is inuisible and vnknowne Moreouer this communication of offices is very sensible and visible That also is visible S. Aug. Tom. 2. Ep. 170. ad Seuer which is a corporall substance and generally in many places Wherefore S. Augustine saith Yt is an easy matter for thee to behold and see that Citty which is situated vpon a mountaine of whome our Lord in the Ghospell saith that it cannot be bidden For she is the Catholike Church whereupon she is called in Greek 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Matt. 5. v. 14. because she is published and spread ouer all the whole world of whome it is not lawfull for any to be ignorant and therfore according to the saying of our Lord Iesus Christ she cannot be hidden Hitherto S. Augustine 9. Sixtly that Church is visible which contayneth in it aswell the good Calu. l. 4. I●stit c. 1. sect 7. as the euill and aswell the predestinate as the reprobate as our Aduersaries themselues acknowledge who will haue the inuisible Church to consist of those only Matt. 1● v. ●8 which are predestinate But that the Church which containeth in it aswell the euill as the good shall continue vnto Calu. l. 4. Instit c. 1. sect 13. in fine Beza c. 5. suae Cons art 7. the end of the world those wordes of Christ suffer both to growe till haruest do euidētly demōstrate vnto vs. Yea euē our Aduersaries themselues doe plainly confesse that the holy Scripture doth declare this by many Parables It may therfore be gathered out of holy Scriptures euen by the iudgemēt of our Aduersaries that there is not only an inuisible but also a visible Church to wit wherein the good are mixed with the bad which shall alwaies continue till the end of the world 10. Seauenthly it is all one to affirme the Church to be inuisible and to affirme that it hath wholy perished and Supra cap. 3. that there is no Church at all the which as we haue declared before is most absurd For this inuisible Church of our Aduersaries can afford no help to any seeing that she is not knowne to any but only vnto God according to that saying of the Apostle God knoweth who are his For our Aduersaries will haue the
predestinate 2. Tim. 2. v. 19. only to belong vnto this their inuisible Church as we haue now declared who are only knowne vnto God and vnknowne vnto all others 11. Hither also it belongeth that those could not be Saints predestinated who haue byn for these many ages past in that inuisible Church of our Aduersaries For those if per●●uenture there were any neyther durst publikel● professe Christ nor preach openly the Ghospell but terrified with humane feare haue done all thinges by dissimulation and hypocrisy least they might be bewrayed and made knowne vnto others for otherwise they should haue byn visible not inuisible Luc. 9. v. 26. But Christ saith that he that shall be ashamed of me and that which I teach hym the sonne of man wil be ashamed o● when he shall come in his Maiesty 12. Lastly our Aduersaries being vrged with so many and inuincible reasons see well inough especially the wiser sort of them how absurd the doctrine of their inuisible Church is And therfore many of them now adayes acknowledge the Church of Christ to haue byn alwaies visible and moreouer that this visible Church remayned still in the Popedome as they speake For they cānot assigne any other visible euer continuing Church besides that of Rome but least they be conuinced of fal●hood by the authority of this visible Church they seeke out some other euasion for they say this visible Church may yea hath often erred in matters of faith The which error we will Cap. 7. seq confu●e a little after assoone as we haue answered the arguments obiected by our Aduersaries against this Chapter CHAP. V. The arguments against the visible Church are confuted MANY of our Aduersaries reasōs do not so much proue that Infr. c. 7. the visible Church hath perished decayed as that it hath erred in fayth the which therefore shal be confuted afterward when we declare that the Church cannot erre in matters of fayth The rest of their arguments are Tom. 2. Epi. 48. Tom. 7. de vni Eccles c. ●● ad Donat. post col ●● 20. in fine 3. Reg. 19. v. 10. Calu in ●r●f● ●●arum ●●st Beza ● 5. suae Confes ●rt 9. almost all one with the old reasons of the Donatists For they in tymes past affirmed that the Church of Christ had perished through out the whole world but only in Africk Vnto whom S. Augustine answereth very well in many places But we will only heere briefly examine the more probable arguments and now a dayes more vsed by our Aduersaries 2. The first argument is taken out of those words of the Prophet Elias I am left alone and they seeke my lyfe I answere that this argument is of no moment albeit our Aduersaries Caluin and Beza do often vse it For Elias doth not speake of the whole Church but only of the Kingdome of Israel wherein the wicked King Achab 3. Reg. 16. v. 18. then reigned albeit in it also there were seauen thousand men who did not adore Baal and who made a visible Church Moreouer at that very time Iosaphat a very pious and godly King reigned there was also the temple of God and Priests and Sacrifice as also publike solemne and daily seruice of God yea out of the second book of Paralippomenō we gather that King Iosaphat laboured very much to conserue 2. Paral. 19. v. 4. seq and increase the honour and worship of God neyther was the number of them litle who professed publikely the true Religion For in the same booke are accounted and numbred more then eleauen hundred thousād strong souldiars besides women and others lesse sit for warre by which it appeareth that the Church of 2. Paral. 17. v. 14. seq God was not inuisible in Iosaphats Kingdome but rather very visible and cōspicuous But Elias only complayned of the Kingdome of Israel they to wit the children of Israel and not the children of Iuda haue 3. Reg. 19. v. 10. forsaken thy Couenant Neyther do we deny but that in some one or other Kingdome there might sometymes peraduenture haue byn few or no Christians whiles in farre more places the Church of God was very manyfest and visible But that the Church of Christ was no where to be foūd in the whole world is most absurd and expresly against the holy Scriptures 3. The second argument is taken out of many places of Isay Ieremy wherin those Prophets complayne that all the Iewes did transgresse the Couenant made with God Moreouer they obiect the small number of those who were sometimes in the ancient Church before Christs tyme or euen in Christs time before the Gospell was promulgated and heere they make many digressions to Noë and Adam himselfe The very same argument the Donatists also vsed as the words of Bishop P●●ili●n testify related by S. Augustine But Vide S. August Tom. 7. de vn●t Eccl c. 13. S. Aug. Tom. 7. in lib. ad Don it post ●oll c. 20. in fine S. Augustine answereth very well to those generall complaints of the Prophets that the holy Scripture hath a peculiar phrase o● manner of speaking who so reprehendeth the euill as though euery one of that company of people were wicked men so cōmendeth the good as if they were all such and this S. Augustine proueth in the same chapter out of diuers places of the holy Scripture 4. Our Aduersaries also who would seeme skillfull and cunning in the Hebrew and Greeke language should call to mind that aswell the generall particle amongst the Hebrews called col as that other which De voce Col vide Galat. l. 5. c. 4. Ioan. Fost Luth Io. Mer. Cal. in radic● Cal. in c. 2. Philip. v. 1● Beza ib. in 1. Tim 2. v. 1. ed. An. 1565. in edit an 1598 v. 4. ibid. Isa 1. v. 1. Oze 1. v. 1. Amos. 1. v. 1. Mich 1. v. 1. Ierem. 1. v. 1. Ezechiel 1. v. 2. Dan 1. v. 2. Sophon 1 v. 1. answereth vnto it in the Greeke 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is often vsed in holy Scripture not generally for euery thing without any exception but for that which commonly is wont to be done as also non pro singulis ge●erum sed pro generibus singulorum the which not only the Hebrew Lexicons written by our Aduersaries themselues doe plainly demōstrate but also their chiefe principall ringleaders Caluin Beza The later wherof addeth also that we haue obserued that a generall particle is almost in every leafe of holy Scripture vsed indefinitely It is therfore most true which S. Augustine sayth that this word all in these kind of places is taken for many or for that which was common euery where as Caluin and Beza say for otherwise it is well inough knowen that in the tyme of the Prophet Isay there were some holy Kings as Ozias and Ezechias in Iury as also those Prophets Ozeas
people cannot discerne which is the sincere preaching of the word of God or the lawfull administration of the Sacraments and the Ecclesiasticall discipline prescribed by the word of God for it is necessary that he who knoweth all these things well should also vnderstand almost all the holy Scripture Moreouer there is as yet a very great controuersy among ●ur Aduersaries themselues concerning these three signes whiles that some of them doe contend striue that this is the sincere preaching of the word of God others that some doe say that this is the lawfull administration of the Sacraments others that some doe say this is the discipline prescribed by the word of God others assigne another quite different from this 7. But our Aduersaries do in very truth confound the offices of the Church with the signes therof For to preach sincerely to administer the Sacraments lawfully and to appoint the discipline of the Supr c. 1. buius cō §. 9. seq Church rightly are the offices of the Church as we haue declared before and not the signes therof these signes therfore being reiected which our Aduersaries do assigne it remayneth that we enquire out the true signes of the Church 8. But this is first to be presupposed as it were the ground of all that we are to speake of this matter That euen naturall reason it selfe doth clearly demōstrat that there is some true Church of God heere vpon earth For this is one of those first principles of fayth which are as euidently proued by naturall reason as that there is a God Wherefore the Apostle placeth these two amōgst the first grounds of our faith he that commeth to God saith he must belieue that he is is a rewarder to thē that seeke Hebr. v. ● him But they which so seeke after God that they may be rewarded by him are without all doubt in the true Church 4. Moreouer naturall reason it selfe doth euidētly teach vs that it is an absurd thing to thinke that there is no way left by God for men to obteine their eternall saluation seing that this is quite opposite to the prouidēce of God to his infinite goodnesse but there is no other way besides the Church as we haue declared before Cap. 2● huius cōtrouersiae but because there are so many so diuers opiniōs of men cōcerning this so necessary a way to saluatiō there are also certaine signes markes therof set downe that we may the better vnderstand which is indeed the certaine and most true way 10. Out of these which we haue now Supra c. 14. huius controu §. 5. in fine said followeth first that that which we haue insinuated before is most true to wit that it is more certaine euidēt that there is the holy Scripture seeing that it is manifest by naturall reason that there must needs be some Church of God heere vpon earth the which is not so euident of the holy Scriptures 11. The second thing which ensueth is that to these signes of the true Church these two cōditious are altogeather necessary The first is that they must be such as that they may not only be perceiued by fayth and our vnderstanding but euen by sense it selfe for other wise they cannot be true signes as we haue already proued The other is that they be knowne and manifest to all men euen vnto Infidells seing that otherwise Isa 35. v 8. they cannot help them or conuince and bring them to the true Church For the Church of Christ as the Prophet testifieth is a direct way so that fooles that is to Bellarm per totū l. 4. de Eccles militāte Bozius de signis Ecclesiae Coccius Tom. 1. per totum l. 8. say Infidells cannot erre by it 12. Of these signes of the true Church Bellarmine Coccius and Thomas Bozius Eugubinus discourse at large who hath gathered twenty fower signes in all of the true Church all which he manifestly proueth to agree to the Roman Church out of these Authors more signes may be required 13. But we regarding our intended breuity will only alledge foure which are set downe in the Nicene and Constantinopolitan Creed that is to say that this true Church is One Holy Catholike and Apostolicall For these foure signes are so certayne that they cannot be reiected euen by our Aduersaries First because they are expressely set downe in holy Scripture as we will shew in the next Chapter Moreouer our Aduersaries do professe that they admit and receiue three Creeds to wit the Apostles Creed the Nicene and Rupell Cōfess Artic. 5. in fine that of S. Athanasius But in that which we call the Nicen Creed these foure signes of the Church are expressely set downe wherof we will now speake more particulerly CHAP. II. That the true Church of Christ is One Holy Catholike and Apostolicall S. Augustine very well admonisheth vs that when we dispute against S. Aug. Tom. 7. de vnit Eccles cap. 3. heretikes which do admit the holy Scriptures we should proue the true Church of Christ the signes thereof out of the sayd holy writ For as the same holy Father noteth in another place the Prophets had spoken more obscurely of Christ S. Aug. Tom. 8. cō 2. in Psal 30. super ea verba v. 12. qui videbant me foras fugerunt à me then they did of the Church because by their Propheticall spirit they did see that there would arise greater strife debate about the Church thē of Christ himselfe We will therfore heere proue these foure signes of the Church First out of the Scripture and secondly by naturall reason seeing that these signes must be such as may conuince those which do not admit the Scriptures as we haue declared in the precedent Chapter 2. The first signe of the true Church of Christ is Vnity For there is a threefold vnity necessarily preached in the Church of Christ The first is of all the members with Christ who is the supreme head of the Church the which is effected by fayth wherefore it necessarily followeth that there must be but one fayth of all the members of the Church One Lord and God saith the Apostle and one faith and againe vntill we all meete in the vnity Ephes 4. v. 5. Eph. 4. v. 13. of fayth 3. The second Vnity is of all the members among themselues for as he who dissolueth the first vnity is an heretike so he which violateth this is a schismatike wherefore Christ sayth in this all men shall know that you are my disciples if you haue loue one to another And the Apostle That there might be no schisme in the body but the members Ioan. 13. v. 15. 1. Cor. 1. v. 25. 1. Cor. 24. v. 33. togeather might be carefull one for another Finally God is not the God of dissention but of peace as also in all the Churches of the Saynts I teach sayth the same Apostle 4.
manners some forcible and conuincing arguments may be taken 5. First out of the common consent of all or at the least of the most part without any contradiction at all For if they had all erred in a necessary point of saluation the whole auncient Church should also haue erred the which euen our Aduersaries Cap. 7. huius ●ōt acknowledge to be false as we haue declared before 6. Secondly that promise of Christ Matth. v●t v. penuit vit wherby he assured vs that he would be alwayes presēt with his Church was properly made to the Pastors and Doctors of the same for he promised that he would be present with those whom he sent to baptize and preach to wit the Pastors of the Church 7. Thirdly Pastors and Doctors Ad Ephes 4. v 11. 12. 13. 14. were ordained by God in his Church as the Apostle witnesseth to the end that we be not carried about with euery wind of Doctrine but that we may continue in the vnity of sayth till we meet with Christ in the last day But if all the Pastors and Doctors of the Church could erre we might easily be carried away with many blastes of strange doctrines neyther could the vnity of fayth alwayes continue and in this manner God should haue prouided very badly for his Church that it should neuer erre 8. Finally if all the Pastors and Doctors of the Church should teach any doctrine contrary to fayth there should no sincere and true preaching of the word of God remayne in the Church seeing that only Pastors and Doctors are lawfully called to the preaching of the true fayth of God But without the sincere preaching of the Suprac 8. huius controu §. 15 word of God it is impossible that the Church of Christ should consist as euen our Aduersaries confesse and as we haue declared before 9. Secondly we take arguments out of the auncient holy Fathers as out of most faythfull and true witnesses of that fayth which in their tymes was preached in the Catholike Church For our Aduersaries acknowledge that in their tyme the true and sincere fayth of Christ was preached We therefore alledge them as witnesses of that fayth for if we do not belieue them who lieued at that time whom will we belieue but they were both eye witnesses and nothing suspected of falshood as S. Augustine declareth very well disputing against the Pelagians 10. Thirdly we take arguments out S. Aug. Tom. 7. cont Iulianū Pelag. l. 2. cap. vlt. of the holy Fathers as out of those Doctors whose writings haue byn receiued and approued by the auncient Church of God For it was wont to impugne and condēne those writers who wrote any thing contrary to the true fayth least their writings might be hurtfull to the future Church and on the other side it approued their writings who taught the true fayth There is yet extant a Decree of the Vide T● 2. Concil inter Decreta S. Gelasij Papae Roman Councell set forth almost a thousand two hundred yeares agoe concerning these writings They therfore who haue beene approued by the auncient Church are most worthily to be belieued because the primitiue Church as our Aduersaries confesse hath neuer erred in iudgement concerning matters of fayth 11. Eourthly we take arguments out of the holy Fathers as out of the most holy and learned men and Blessed Saints of God For eyther they had the sincere true fayth and if it be so we should imbrace the same or they had it not and if it be so they were not Saynts of God nor could they be acceptable vnto him as the Apostle testifyeth 12. By this very argument the Catholiks Socrat. l. 5. c. 10. So●ō l 8. c. 12. historiae Eccles in tymes past ouercame the Arians for they vrged them to receiue the holy Fathers who wrote before Arius his tyme or they should excommunicate them as Socrates and Sozomenus do testify 13. And to this purpose serue very fitly those words of S. Augustine wherein S. Aug. Tom 7. contra Iuli ●●● Pe●agianū l. 2. c. vlt. he declareth what was the iudgment of the primitiue Church concerning this matter For thus speaketh S. Augustine to the heretiks of his time whiles he vrgeth them with the testimony and authority of the auncient Fathers who were before him They had saith he no regard eyther to our friendship or to yours neyther were they enemies to either of vs they are neyther angry with you nor with vs they were not moued with pitty and compassion on eyther side what they found in the Church that they h●ld what they had learned that they taught they deliuered to their Children that which they had receiued from their owne Fathers VVe pleaded in our cause against you before these iudges and yet by them our cause was ended long since neyther we nor you were so much knowne to them and yet we bring sorth their sentences giuen in our fauour against you VVe had not as yet begunne any combat with you and yet so long agoe they proclaymed our victory So farre S. Augustine 14. Finally Vincentius Lyrinensis a French man who liued at the same tyme with S. Augustine proueth the same very well by many reasons and examples throughout all that most learned booke the which he wrote against the prophane Nouelties of all heresies And we will conclude and end this Chapter of the authority of Vide pr●sertim c. 4 40. eiusdē libelli holy Fathers and this our whole disputation of the Church of God with the same words wherewith he ended that his golden booke For thus he writeth in the end of it If neyther the Apostolicall definitions nor ecclesiasticall decrees be to be violated wherby according to the most holy and vniforme consent of all antiquity all heretikes and lastly Pelagius Celestius and Nestorius for these were the last Heretiks that liued in Vincentius his tyme haue bin alwayes most iustly condemned it is necessary in truth that all those Catholikes who will heereafter proue and shew themselues to be the true and lawfull children of our holy mother the Catholike Church should adhere and vnite themselues stedfastely as also dy in the profession of that sacred saith of those holy Fathers lastly that they should abhorre detest banish and persecute all the prophane nouelties of all most wicked Heretikes Hither to S. Vincentius The end of the second Controuersy THE faults escaped in printing it may please the gentle Reader to correct them of his courtesy FINIS