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he_o please_v or_o whether_o last_o by_o some_o other_o way_n yet_o more_o impenetrable_a and_o more_o unknown_a he_o cause_v we_o to_o receive_v the_o fruit_n of_o those_o prayer_n which_o we_o address_v to_o those_o bless_a soul_n 1_o ed._n p._n 23._o so_o that_o in_o effect_n whether_o the_o saint_n hear_v we_o or_o no_o whether_o they_o join_v with_o we_o in_o our_o request_n or_o no_o according_a to_o mounseur_fw-fr de_fw-fr meaux_n exposition_n their_o church_n know_v not_o which_o be_v sure_a a_o sufficient_a prejudice_n against_o their_o invocation_n and_o be_v it_o seem_v think_v so_o by_o those_o who_o therefore_o cause_v all_o the_o latter_a part_n of_o this_o paragraph_n to_o be_v strike_v out_o for_o fear_v of_o the_o advantage_n we_o may_v reasonable_o make_v of_o it_o v._o but_o if_o mounseur_fw-fr de_fw-fr meaux_n in_o his_o first_o exposition_n free_o confess_v how_o uncertain_a the_o ground_n of_o this_o invocation_n be_v he_o no_o less_o free_o leave_v it_o to_o 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point_n but_o such_o as_o his_o corrector_n it_o seem_v will_v not_o admit_v of_o who_o therefore_o oblige_v he_o whole_o to_o strike_v out_o that_o passage_n that_o the_o church_n impose_v no_o obligation_n at_o all_o upon_o particular_a person_n to_o practice_v this_o invocation_n and_o instead_o of_o condemn_v only_o those_o that_o refuse_v it_o out_o of_o contempt_n or_o a_o spirit_n of_o dissension_n and_o revolt_n which_o have_v free_v we_o whole_o from_o their_o anathema_n to_o expound_v it_o now_o more_o severe_o that_o she_o condemn_v those_o who_o refuse_v this_o practice_n whether_o out_o of_o disrespect_n or_o error_n which_o will_v be_v sure_a to_o bring_v we_o under_o it_o vi_o in_o the_o article_n of_o image_n mounseur_fw-fr de_fw-fr meaux_n have_v first_o lay_v down_o this_o foundation_n that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v not_o attribute_n to_o they_o any_o other_o virtue_n than_o that_o of_o exciting_a in_o we_o the_o remembrance_n of_o those_o who_o they_o 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