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A51289 A brief reply to a late answer to Dr. Henry More his Antidote against idolatry Shewing that there is nothing in the said answer that does any ways weaken his proofs of idolatry against the Church of Rome, and therefore all are bound to take heed how they enter into, or continue in the communion of that church as they tender their own salvation. More, Henry, 1614-1687. 1672 (1672) Wing M2645; ESTC R217965 188,285 386

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to_o have_v overspread_v she_o like_o a_o noisome_a leprosy_n but_o however_o we_o shall_v proceed_v and_o first_o to_o their_o invocation_n of_o saint_n touch_v which_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n declare_v this_o doctrine_n express_o 9_o sanctos_fw-la utique_fw-la unà_fw-la cum_fw-la christo_fw-la regnantes_fw-la orationes_fw-la svas_fw-la pro_fw-la hominibus_fw-la offer_n bon●mque_fw-la atque_fw-la utile_fw-la esse_fw-la suppliciter_fw-la eos_fw-la invocare_fw-la &_o ob_fw-la beneficia_fw-la impetranda_fw-la à_fw-la deo_fw-la per_fw-la filium_fw-la ejus_fw-la jesum_fw-la christum_fw-la ad_fw-la eorum_fw-la oratine_v operam_fw-la auxiliumque_fw-la confugere_fw-la where_o invocation_n of_o saint_n be_v plain_o allow_v and_o recommend_v and_o beside_o their_o pray_v for_o we_o or_o offer_v up_o our_o prayer_n to_o god_n it_o be_v plain_o imply_v that_o there_o be_v other_o aid_n and_o succour_n they_o can_v afford_v if_o they_o be_v supplicate_v that_o be_v invoke_v with_o most_o 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the_o virgin_n mary_n especial_o be_v above_o the_o nature_n of_o any_o creature_n whence_o this_o invocation_n of_o saint_n will_v appear_v a_o most_o gross_a and_o palpable_a mode_n of_o idolatry_n in_o that_o church_n as_o i_o shall_v make_v manifest_a out_o of_o the_o follow_a example_n take_v out_o of_o such_o piece_n of_o dèvotion_n as_o be_v not_o mutter_v in_o the_o corner_n of_o their_o closet_n but_o be_v public_o read_v or_o sing_v with_o stentorian_a voice_n in_o their_o very_a church_n i_o will_v only_o give_v the_o reader_n a_o taste_n of_o this_o kind_n of_o their_o idolatry_n for_o it_o be_v infinite_a to_o produce_v all_o we_o may_v 4._o and_o first_o to_o begin_v with_o the_o small_a saint_n as_o indeed_o they_o be_v all_o to_o be_v reckon_v in_o comparison_n of_o the_o bless_a virgin_n to_o who_o therefore_o they_o give_v that_o worship_n which_o they_o call_v hyperdulia_fw-la as_o they_o give_v dulia_n to_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o saint_n and_o latria_n to_o god_n alone_o and_o to_o christ_n as_o be_v god_n that_o prayer_n to_o s._n cosmas_n and_o s._n damian_n be_v plain_o a_o petition_n to_o they_o to_o keep_v we_o from_o all_o disease_n as_o well_o of_o soul_n as_o of_o body_n that_o we_o may_v attain_v to_o the_o life_n of_o the_o spirit_n and_o live_v in_o grace_n here_o and_o be_v make_v partaker_n of_o heaven_n hereafter_o o_o medici_n piissimi_fw-la qui_fw-la meritis_fw-la clarissimi_fw-la in_o coelis_fw-la refulgetis_fw-la a_o peste_n call_v corporum_fw-la pr●servetis_fw-la &_o operum_fw-la moribus_fw-la nè_fw-la langueamus_fw-la nec_fw-la moriamur_fw-la spiritu_fw-la sed_fw-la animae_fw-la ab_fw-la obitu_fw-la velociter_fw-la surgamus_fw-la et_fw-la vivamus_fw-la in_o gratia_n sacra_fw-la coeli_fw-la palatia_fw-la donec_fw-la regrediamur_fw-la 5._o such_o a_o piece_n of_o devotion_n as_o this_o be_v that_o to_o s._n francis_n sancte_fw-la francisce_n properè_fw-la veni_fw-la pater_fw-la accelera_fw-la ad_fw-la populum_fw-la qui_fw-la premitur_fw-la &_o territur_fw-la sub_fw-la onere_fw-la palea_fw-la luto_fw-la latere_fw-la &_o sepultos_fw-la aegyptio_fw-la sub_fw-la sabulo_fw-la nos_fw-la libera_fw-la carnis_fw-la extincto_fw-la vitio_fw-la which_o be_v plain_o a_o prayer_n to_o this_o saint_n that_o he_o will_v deliver_v we_o from_o the_o bondage_n and_o drudgery_n of_o sin_n which_o be_v only_o in_o the_o power_n of_o our_o great_a saviour_n and_o redeemer_n christ_n for_o to_o do_v that_o invocation_n of_o s._n andrew_n be_v also_o for_o that_o spiritual_a grace_n of_o due_o bear_v the_o cross_n here_o that_o we_o may_v obtain_v heaven_n afterward_o jam_fw-la nos_fw-la foveto_fw-la languidos_fw-la curámque_fw-la nostrî_fw-la suscipe_fw-la qu●_n per_fw-la crucis_fw-la victoriam_fw-la coeli_fw-la pet●mus_fw-la gratiam_fw-la but_o that_o to_o s._n nicolas_n be_v against_o the_o assault_n of_o the_o devil_n ergò_fw-la piè_fw-la nos_fw-la exaudi_fw-la assistentes_fw-la tu●_n laudi_fw-la nè_fw-la subdamur_fw-la hostess_fw-la fraudi_fw-la nobis_fw-la fer_fw-fr auxilia_fw-la nos_fw-la ab_fw-la omni_fw-la malo_fw-la ducas_fw-la vitâ_fw-la rectâ_fw-la nos_fw-la conducas_fw-la post_fw-la ●anc_fw-la vitam_fw-la nos_fw-la inducas_fw-la ad_fw-la aeterna_fw-la gaudia_fw-la the_o like_a devotion_n be_v do_v to_o s._n martin_n s._n andrew_n s._n james_n s._n bartko●omew_n and_o other_o though_o not_o in_o the_o same_o word_n 6._o when_o i_o have_v give_v a_o example_n or_o two_o of_o their_o prayer_n put_v up_o to_o their_o she-saint_n ●_o shall_v a_o little_a more_o copious_o insist_v on_o those_o to_o the_o bless_a virgin_n they_o beg_v of_o s._n agnes_n the_o great_a grace_n that_o god_n be_v able_a to_o impart_v to_o the_o soul_n of_o man_n that_o be_v to_o say_v to_o serve_v god_n in_o perfect_a love_n and_o this_o gift_n this_o one_o poor_a single_a she-saint_n be_v solicit_v to_o bestow_v on_o all_o man_n ave_fw-la agnes_n gloriosa_fw-la i_o in_fw-la fide_fw-la serve_v recta_fw-la dulcis_fw-la virgo_fw-la &_o dilecta_fw-la te_fw-la exoro_fw-la precibus_fw-la charitate_fw-la da_fw-la perfectâ_fw-la deum_fw-la per_fw-la quem_fw-la es_fw-la electa_fw-la colere_fw-la piè_fw-la omnibus_fw-la that_o devotion_n put_v up_o to_o s._n br●gitt_n be_v that_o she_o will_v play_v the_o skilful_a pilot_n and_o lead_v we_o through_o all_o the_o tempest_n and_o hazard_n of_o this_o world_n so_o safe_o that_o at_o last_o by_o her_o good_a conduct_n we_o may_v attain_v to_o everlasting_a life_n the_o rhyme_n run_v thus_o o_o bregitta_n mater_fw-la bona_fw-la dulcis_fw-la ductrix_fw-la &_o matrona_fw-la nobis_fw-la fer_fw-fr suffragia_fw-la naufragantes_fw-la in_o hoc_fw-la mari_n tuo_fw-la ductu_fw-la salutari_fw-la duc_n ad_fw-la aquavitae_fw-la bravia_fw-la 7._o but_o that_o to_o s._n cath●rine_n be_v a_o piece_n of_o devotion_n something_o of_o a_o high_a strain_n or_o rather_o more_o copious_a and_o express_a but_o so_o great_a a_o boon_n they_o beg_v of_o she_o as_o be_v in_o the_o power_n of_o none_o to_o give_v but_o god_n alone_o ave_fw-la virgo_fw-la dei_fw-la digna_fw-la christo_fw-la prece_fw-la i_o consigna_fw-la audi_fw-la preces_fw-la praesta_fw-la votum_fw-la cor_fw-la in_fw-la bono_fw-mi fac_fw-la immotum_fw-la confer_v mi●i_fw-la cor_fw-la contritum_fw-la rege_fw-la visum_fw-la &_o auditum_fw-la r●ge_fw-la gustum_fw-la &_o ●lfactum_fw-la virgo_fw-la sancta_fw-la rege_fw-la tactum_fw-la ut_fw-la in_o cunctis_fw-la te_fw-la regente_fw-la vivam_fw-la deo_fw-la pur●_n ment_fw-la christum_fw-la pro_fw-la i_o interpella_fw-la salva_n mortis_fw-la de_fw-la procella_fw-la superare_fw-la fac_fw-la i_o mundum_fw-la nè_fw-la demergar_fw-la in_o profundum_fw-la nè_fw-la i_o sinas_fw-la naufragari_fw-la per_fw-la peccata_fw-la in_o hoc_fw-la mari._n visita_fw-la tu_fw-la i_o infirmum_fw-la et_fw-la in_o bonis_fw-la fac_fw-la i_o firmum_fw-la agonista_n dei_fw-la fortis_fw-la praestò_n sis_fw-la in_o hora_fw-la mortis_fw-la decumbentem_fw-la fove_n leva_fw-la et_fw-la de_fw-la morte_fw-la solve_v saeva_fw-la ut_fw-la resurgam_fw-la novus_fw-la homo_fw-la civis_fw-la in_o coelesti_fw-la domo_fw-la 8._o now_o it_o be_v observable_a in_o this_o devotional_a rhyme_n to_o s._n catharine_n that_o whereas_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n advise_v man_n ad_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la orationes_fw-la opem_fw-la auxiliumque_fw-la confugere_fw-la that_o in_o these_o many_o verse_n
be_v a_o sufficient_a occasion_n of_o change_v the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n from_o pergamus_n to_o thyatira_n but_o other_o thing_n that_o be_v apposite_z be_v also_o comprehend_v by_o a_o prophetical_a henopoeia_fw-la 7._o but_o this_o be_v a_o overplus_n to_o our_o present_a purpose_n which_o be_v main_o to_o discover_v the_o gross_a idolatry_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o the_o invocation_n of_o their_o saint_n and_o especial_o of_o the_o virgin_n mary_n and_o how_o both_o the_o definition_n of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n be_v idolatrous_a in_o this_o point_n and_o much_o more_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n countenance_v by_o public_a authority_n 8._o for_o this_o mary-psalter_n itself_o that_o have_v the_o most_o enormous_a and_o blasphemous_a form_n of_o idolatrous_a invocation_n of_o any_o be_v not_o the_o private_a contrivance_n of_o some_o single_a obscure_a superstitious_a monk_n but_o bear_v the_o title_n of_o that_o seraphic_a doctor_n ●t_a 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