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A07646 A gagg for the new Gospell? No: a nevv gagg for an old goose VVho would needes vndertake to stop all Protestants mouths for euer, with 276. places out of their owne English Bibles. Or an ansvvere to a late abridger of controuersies, and belyar of the Protestants doctrine. By Richard Mountagu. Published by authoritie. Montagu, Richard, 1577-1641. 1624 (1624) STC 18038; ESTC S112831 210,549 373

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the_o 4_o by_o the_o account_n of_o catholic_n 13._o 21._o s._n chrysost_o to._n 5._o cont_n gentil_n quòd_fw-la christus_fw-la sit_fw-la deus_fw-la in_o a_o whole_a book_n prove_v hereby_o and_o by_o the_o like_a virtue_n of_o other_o saint_n that_o christ_n their_o lord_n and_o master_n be_v god_n who_o servant_n napkin_n and_o shadow_n can_v do_v such_o wonder_n be_v they_o not_o therefore_o fool_n and_o blind_a that_o keep_v such_o a_o ●ooting_n at_o holybread_n hooker_n poor_a protestant_n whither_o now_o be_v thy_o figure_n flee_v see_v father_n that_o affirm_v the_o same_o s._n ignat._v in_o his_o epist_n ad_fw-la smyr_n justin_n mar._n apol._n 2._o ad_fw-la antoninum_fw-la now_o say_v the_o truth_n and_o shame_v the_o devil_n be_v not_o they_o sick_a in_o their_o wit_n which_o will_v oppose_v such_o plain_a scripture_n deuter._n 23._o 22._o psal_n 66._o 13._o psal_n 19_o 11._o 1._o tim._n math._n 5._o 12._o jer._n 35._o 5._o therefore_o it_o be_v ground_v etc._n etc._n contrary_n to_o their_o own_o bibles_n these_o free_a captive_n can_v be_v the_o soul_n of_o the_o save_v which_o no_o man_n in_o his_o right_a wit_n can_v call_v captive_n nor_o of_o the_o damn_a for_o so_o the_o devil_n shall_v be_v bring_v again_o into_o heaven_n therefore_o they_o be_v the_o soul_n of_o the_o father_n which_o christ_n deliver_v out_o of_o hell_n act_n 2._o 27._o which_o very_a word_n saint_n august_n apply_v to_o the_o paint_n of_o purgatory_n and_o add_v who_o but_o a_o infidel_n will_v deny_v christ_n to_o have_v descend_v into_o hell_n ep._n 99_o ad_fw-la euodium_fw-la saint_n ambrose_n ser._n 20_o in_o psal_n 118._o saint_n hierome_n upon_o 4_o of_o amos_n saint_n august_n upon_o the_o 37_o psal_n saint_n gregory_n lib._n 4._o dial._n explicate_v this_o very_a place_n of_o purgatory_n heb._n 9_o 1._o 5._o lo_o saint_n paul_n call_v the_o picture_n of_o the_o cherubin_n which_o solomon_n make_v a_o ordinance_n of_o divine_a service_n which_o protestant_n call_v the_o make_n of_o idol_n who_o now_o shall_v we_o believe_v whether_o s._n paul_n or_o a_o protestant_n when_o paint_v and_o grave_v of_o 〈◊〉_d ture_n be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v idolatry_n that_o it_o be_v prove_v to_o be_v a_o science_n divine_o infuse_v by_o god_n himself_o contrary_a to_o express_v word_n of_o their_o own_o bible_n and_o he_o say_v draw_v not_o nigh_o hither_o etc._n etc._n lo_o how_o clear_a a_o place_n be_v produce_v here_o against_o protestant_n where_o a_o insensible_a ●reature_n without_o reason_n be_v command_v by_o god_n himself_o to_o be_v honour_v now_o the_o principal_a reason_n why_o the_o ark_n be_v worship_v be_v in_o regard_n of_o the_o image_n that_o be_v upon_o it_o which_o as_o s._n jerom_n say_v the_o lewes_z do_v worship_n in_o his_o ep._n ad_fw-la marcellan_n num._n 21._o 8._o hence_o be_v evident_o prove_v diverse_a thing_n against_o protestant_n etc._n etc._n see_v father_n that_o affirm_v the_o same_o saint_n ambrose_n ser._n 1._o in_o psal_n 118._o where_o first_o our_o lord_n have_v teach_v his_o own_o disciple_n that_o excellent_a prayer_n of_o all_o prayer_n which_o he_o will_v have_v they_o to_o offer_v to_o he_o the_o pater_fw-la noster_fw-la or_o our_o lord_n prayer_n he_o afterward_o in_o many_o other_o place_n will_v they_o to_o pray_v always_o as_o luke_n 18._o 1._o the_o angel_n in_o the_o prophet_n isaiah_n isaiah_n 6._o and_o the_o beast_n in_o the_o apoc._n apo._n 4._o which_o rest_n neither_o d●y_n nor_o night_n do_v thrice_o repeat_v etc._n etc._n