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A89446 The Church of England vindicated against her chief adversaries of the Church of Rome wherein the most material points are fairly debated, and briefly and fully answered / by a learned divine. Menzeis, John, 1624-1684. 1680 (1680) Wing M33A; ESTC R42292 320,894 395

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pope_n siricius_n in_o epist_n ad_fw-la himmer_n call_v perpetual_a repentance_n purificatorium_fw-la paenitudinis_fw-la ignem_fw-la the_o purge_a fire_n of_o repentance_n and_o that_o this_o be_v the_o genuine_a scope_n of_o cyprian_a may_v be_v confirm_v from_o the_o series_n of_o his_o discourse_n but_o who_o desire_v far_o satisfaction_n i_o remit_v they_o to_o dallaeus_n de_fw-fr paenis_fw-la &_o satisfac_fw-la lib._n 4._o cap._n 10._o now_o only_o remain_v austin_n who_o be_v the_o first_o father_n that_o real_o speak_v to_o this_o purpose_n about_o the_o end_n of_o the_o four_o or_o beginning_n of_o the_o five_o century_n but_o sure_o it_o be_v austin_n conclude_v nothing_o dogmatical_o in_o this_o matter_n as_o may_v appear_v by_o he_o non_fw-la redarguo_fw-la quia_fw-la forsitan_fw-la u●rum_fw-la est_fw-la lib._n 21._o de_fw-la civ_o dei_fw-la cap._n 26._o that_o which_o be_v here_o object_v from_o he_o in_o ps_n 37._o be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o exploratory_n fire_n at_o the_o great_a day_n as_o appear_v by_o a_o like_a discourse_n of_o austin_n on_o a_o parallel_n penitential_a psalm_n viz._n psalm_n 6._o where_o he_o express_o restrict_v his_o speech_n to_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n though_o none_o of_o these_o author_n which_o the_o pamphleter_n have_v gather_v up_o implicit_o from_o his_o master_n do_v favour_n his_o cause_n yet_o i_o confess_v he_o want_v not_o patron_n for_o his_o purgatory_n and_o some_o of_o they_o very_o ancient_a viz_o platonic_a philosoph_n he_o may_v true_o have_v cite_v line_n out_o of_o virgil_n claudian_n etc._n etc._n yea_o and_o perhaps_o from_o the_o turkish_a alcoran_n and_o the_o jewish_a talmud_n from_o all_o which_o bellarmin_n be_v not_o ashamed_a to_o argue_v lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr purg._n cap._n 11._o we_o do_v not_o envy_v they_o these_o heathenish_a and_o infidel_n abettor_n our_o learned_a country_n man_n dr._n forbes_n of_o corse_n lib._n 13._o instruct_v hist_o theol._n cap._n 1._o after_o a_o parallel_n betwixt_o the_o romish_a purgatory_n and_o the_o old_a dream_n of_o platonic_a philosoph_n montanus_n and_o origen_n conclude_v they_o have_v borrow_v something_o from_o origen_n more_o from_o montanus_n but_o most_o of_o all_o from_o the_o platonist_n i_o conclude_v with_o that_o of_o austin_n lib._n 1._o de_fw-la pecc_fw-la merit_n &_o remiss_a cap._n 28._o non_fw-la est_fw-la lo●us_fw-la medius_fw-la ut_fw-la possit_fw-la esse_fw-la nisi_fw-la cum_fw-la diabolo_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la cum_fw-la christo_fw-la and_o the_o author_n hypog_n lib._n 5._o tertium_fw-la ignoramus_fw-la nec_fw-la in_o scripture_n invenimus_fw-la hence_o emerge_n a_o five_o demonstration_n of_o romish_a novelty_n that_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o faithful_a undergo_v purgatory_n pain_n after_o this_o life_n be_v no_o essential_a of_o the_o christian_a faith_n in_o the_o first_o three_o age_n but_o it_o be_v a_o essential_a of_o the_o present_a romish_a faith_n ergo_fw-la etc._n etc._n sect_n vi_o a_o six_o instance_n of_o novelty_n concern_v invocation_n of_o saint_n examine_v and_o retort_v upon_o romanist_n the_o pamphleter_n in_o his_o six_o instance_n say_v that_o protestant_n deny_v invocation_n and_o honour_v of_o saint_n where_o he_o bewray_v either_o gross_a ignorance_n or_o so_o much_o disingenuity_n as_o to_o verify_v in_o himself_o his_o other_o apocryphal_a text_n quod_fw-la interiora_fw-la ejus_fw-la sint_fw-la plena_fw-la dolo_fw-la for_o though_o protestant_n deny_v invocation_n of_o depart_a saint_n yet_o they_o acknowledge_v they_o ought_v to_o be_v honour_v they_o cordial_o homologate_v that_o of_o austin_n de_fw-fr vera_fw-la relig_n cap._n 55._o honorandi_fw-la sunt_fw-la propter_fw-la imitationem_fw-la non_fw-la adorandi_fw-la propter_fw-la religionem_fw-la it_o will_v prove_v a_o hard_a province_n to_o all_o the_o romanist_n of_o the_o world_n to_o produce_v one_o authentic_a instance_n for_o invocation_n of_o saint_n within_o the_o first_o three_o age_n either_o from_o canonical_a or_o extra_fw-la canonical_a author_n for_o as_o to_o canonic_a writer_n eccius_n a_o violent_a romanist_n in_o euchirid_a cap._n 15._o acknowledge_v that_o there_o be_v no_o explicit_a command_n for_o invocation_n of_o saint_n either_o in_o the_o old_a or_o new_a test_n and_o for_o extra_fw-la canonical_a author_n sixtus_n senensis_n lib._n 6._o bibl._n annot_v 345._o reckon_v out_o many_o in_o the_o first_o three_o age_n irenaeus_n justin_n martyr_n tertul._n clemens_n romanus_n and_o origen_n to_o who_o in_o after_o time_n he_o add_v lactantius_n victorinus_n prudentius_n ambrose_n chrysost_n yea_o and_o pope_n john_n the_o 22._o maintain_v that_o saint_n do_v not_o enjoy_v the_o beatific_a vision_n before_o the_o resurrection_n of_o the_o last_o day_n and_o though_o he_o hint_n at_o a_o piteous_a evasion_n to_o draw_v some_o of_o their_o word_n another_o way_n yet_o the_o evidence_n of_o truth_n make_v he_o acknowledge_v that_o all_o their_o word_n can_v not_o bear_v such_o a_o interpretation_n consequent_o these_o can_v not_o maintain_v a_o proper_a invocation_n of_o depart_a saint_n this_o be_v the_o reason_n why_o bell_n lib._n 1_o de_fw-fr beat_v sanct._n cap._n 20._o conclude_v that_o saint_n under_o the_o old_a testament_n be_v not_o invocate_v because_o they_o be_v not_o yet_o admit_v to_o the_o beatific_a vision_n do_v not_o the_o father_n of_o those_o age_n explicit_o reject_v invocation_n of_o angel_n as_o irenaeus_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 25._o reckon_a invocation_n of_o angel_n and_o incantation_n together_o as_o thing_n not_o practise_v by_o the_o church_n and_o origen_n lib._n 5._o count_v celsum_n &_o lib._n 8._o say_v that_o our_o prayer_n be_v to_o be_v offer_v up_o to_o god_n alone_o by_o his_o only_o beget_v son_n and_o why_o angel_n be_v not_o to_o be_v invocate_v he_o bring_v diverse_a reason_n how_o be_v it_o that_o in_o the_o excellent_a tractat_v concern_v prayer_n write_v by_o tertul._n and_o cyprian_n there_o be_v no_o mention_n of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n how_o be_v it_o that_o in_o all_o the_o sermon_n of_o origen_n there_o be_v not_o have_v mary_fw-mi or_o invocation_n of_o saint_n recommend_v do_v not_o romish_a catechist_n in_o expound_v the_o first_o command_n labour_v to_o reconcile_v their_o invocation_n of_o saint_n with_o the_o prohibition_n of_o that_o command_n but_o origen_n in_o exod._n homil_n 8._o though_o he_o prolix_o treat_v of_o that_o command_n make_v no_o mention_n of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n be_v not_o these_o evidence_n that_o invocation_n of_o saint_n be_v not_o then_o in_o fashion_n do_v not_o the_o father_n of_o these_o age_n define_v prayer_n to_o be_v direct_v to_o god_n alone_o so_o tertul._n de_fw-fr orat_fw-la cap._n 1._o &_o 9_o apol_n cap._n 30._o iren._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 32._o cap._n 35._o lib._n 2._o cap._n 17._o origen_n count_v celsum_fw-la lib._n 5._o &_o lib._n 8._o and_o after_o they_o athanasius_n orat_fw-la 4._o cont_n arrianos_fw-la well_o do_v ambrose_n express_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o church_n de_fw-fr obit_fw-la theod._n tu_fw-la domine_fw-la solus_fw-la invocandus_fw-la es_fw-la shall_v not_o the_o argument_n of_o athanasius_n orat_fw-la 4._o count_v arrianos_n conclude_v the_o deity_n of_o christ_n because_o he_o be_v invocate_v be_v very_o inconsequent_a if_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n have_v be_v judge_v lawful_a when_o in_o the_o four_o century_n invovation_n of_o saint_n begin_v to_o creep_v in_o be_v it_o not_o doubt_v if_o depart_a saint_n know_v particular_o the_o affair_n of_o the_o live_n hence_o nazianzen_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d orat_fw-la 3._o and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d orat_fw-la funeb_fw-mi in_o laudem_fw-la basilii_fw-la hierom_n in_o epitaph_n nepotiani_n non_fw-fr audit_n quicquid_fw-la dixero_fw-la ambrose_n de_fw-fr obitu_fw-la satyri_fw-la cum_fw-la quo_fw-la loqui_fw-la non_fw-la possumus_fw-la etc._n etc._n how_o can_v they_o then_o hold_v it_o as_o a_o article_n of_o faith_n that_o saint_n be_v to_o be_v invocate_v do_v not_o the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n can_v 35._o condemn_v express_o the_o invocation_n of_o angel_n be_v it_o not_o a_o notorious_a imposture_n of_o romanist_n to_o substitute_n for_o angelos_n either_o in_o the_o title_n text_n or_o margin_n angulos_fw-la as_o be_v observe_v to_o be_v do_v by_o caranza_n crab_n binnius_n canisius_n be_v not_o that_o canon_n commend_v and_o the_o worship_n of_o angel_n condemn_v by_o theodoret_n in_o cap._n 2._o ad_fw-la coloss_n do_v not_o the_o pamphleter_n bewray_v how_o desperate_a his_o cause_n be_v when_o all_o the_o testimony_n he_o bring_v be_v either_o spurious_a or_o impertinent_a these_o from_o denys_n de_fw-fr hierarch_n cap._n 7._o clement_n apost_n constut_o cornelius_n 1_o epist_n and_o origen_n lament_v be_v all_o spurious_a and_o most_o of_o they_o quite_o impertinent_a that_o of_o clement_n which_o shall_v have_v be_v cite_v lib._n 5._o cap._n 7._o speak_v only_o of_o honour_n due_a to_o saint_n that_o of_o cornelius_n which_o not_o only_a cocus_n in_o censura_fw-la pag._n 36._o have_v demonstrate_v to_o be_v spurious_a but_o also_o as_o
3._o the_o orig_n animae_fw-la cap._n 15._o iste_fw-la animus_n etiam_fw-la in_o dictis_fw-la per_fw-la ignorantiam_fw-la non_fw-la catholicus_n ipsa_fw-la est_fw-la correctionis_fw-la praemeditatione_fw-la catholicus_n a_o soul_n maintain_v error_n contrary_a to_o catholic_n doctrine_n yet_o willing_a to_o submit_v upon_o conviction_n upon_o that_o virtual_a repentance_n or_o premeditation_n of_o correction_n to_o use_v s._n augustine_n word_n be_v true_o catholic_n namely_o when_o the_o error_n strike_v not_o at_o the_o foundation_n as_o the_o same_o father_n speak_v in_o the_o forecited_a testimony_n lib._n 1._o contra_fw-la julian_n cap._n 6._o against_o this_o the_o pamphlete_a object_n pag._n 92_o 93._o many_o father_n s._n athanasius_n in_o his_o creed_n s._n hierome_n lib._n 3._o cont_n russin_n nazianzen_n tract_n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la s._n basil_n in_o theod._n lib._n 4._o hist_o cap._n 6._o and_o tertull._n lib._n the_o prescript_n as_o if_o they_o all_o have_v hold_v that_o a_o error_n in_o faith_n will_v damn_v a_o soul_n and_o consequent_o every_o point_n of_o faith_n to_o be_v fundamental_a he_o will_v do_v well_o to_o look_v better_o to_o his_o citation_n hereafter_o for_o theod._n lib._n 4._o hist_o cap._n 6._o make_v no_o mention_n at_o all_o of_o s._n basil_n but_o only_o relate_v the_o ordination_n of_o s._n ambrose_n but_o to_o pass_v this_o escape_n i_o answer_v that_o father_n indeed_o hold_v a_o error_n in_o fundamental_o of_o faith_n to_o damn_v a_o soul_n but_o not_o one_o in_o integral_n especial_o when_o it_o be_v maintain_v without_o pertinacy_n that_o father_n admit_v such_o a_o distinction_n in_o point_n of_o faith_n may_v be_v apparent_a because_o they_o do_v accuse_v one_o another_o sometime_o of_o error_n in_o religion_n as_o s._n cyprian_n be_v accuse_v by_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n for_o maintain_v rebaptisation_n as_o a_o error_n in_o religion_n and_o yet_o he_o the_o catholic_n church_n ever_o hold_v for_o a_o saint_n and_o martyr_n s._n austin_n lib._n 3._o the_o orig_n animae_fw-la cap._n 15._o charge_n victor_n with_o eleven_o error_n contrary_a to_o the_o catholic_n faith_n yet_o have_v so_o much_o charity_n to_o he_o that_o he_o say_v absit_fw-la ut_fw-la arbitreris_fw-la te_fw-la haec_fw-la opinando_fw-la à_fw-la catholica_fw-la fide_fw-la recessisse_fw-la quamvis_fw-la ea_fw-la fidei_fw-la adversa_fw-la sunt_fw-la catholicae_fw-la therefore_o they_o hold_v not_o every_o point_n of_o faith_n fundamental_a the_o severe_a sentence_n pronounce_v in_o the_o athanasian_n creed_n which_o yet_o i_o must_v advertise_v the_o pamphleter_n to_o be_v doubt_v whether_o it_o be_v draw_v by_o the_o great_a athanasius_n be_v only_o against_o those_o who_o deny_v any_o article_n of_o that_o creed_n now_o creed_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n be_v suppose_v by_o judicious_a divine_n to_o contain_v fundamental_o as_o vvn_n from_o integral_n that_o of_o nazianzen_n tract_n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la orat_fw-la 49._o relate_v to_o arrian_n against_o who_o he_o there_o dispute_v who_o certain_o err_v fundamental_o at_o who_o also_o s._n hierom_n apol._n 3._o contra_fw-la ruffinum_fw-la seem_v to_o hint_n for_o their_o deny_v the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o pamphleter_n himself_o grant_v that_o tertull._n be_v speak_v against_o valentinus_n who_o all_o know_v to_o have_v err_v fundamental_o so_o that_o from_o none_o of_o these_o testimony_n can_v any_o thing_n be_v infer_v against_o this_o distinction_n yet_o i_o free_o grant_v that_o sometime_o opposition_n to_o a_o integral_a of_o faith_n may_v also_o damn_v a_o soul_n namely_o when_o it_o be_v join_v with_o pertinacy_n but_o than_o it_o be_v not_o the_o simple_a not_o believe_v of_o the_o truth_n which_o condemn_v the_o man_n but_o his_o pertinacy_n but_o say_v the_o pamphleter_n the_o english_a church_n excommunicate_v they_o who_o hold_v any_o thing_n contrary_a to_o the_o 39_o article_n ergo_fw-la they_o hold_v all_o the_o 39_o article_n 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that_o you_o think_v not_o strange_a of_o this_o epiphanius_n credulity_n be_v censure_v by_o melchior_n canus_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 5._o pag._n 477._o and_o in_o many_o place_n by_o barronius_n as_o rivet_v have_v observe_v in_o crit._n sac._n lib._n 3._o cap._n 28._o but_o make_v all_o real_a that_o epiphanius_n there_o report_v yet_o the_o design_n of_o that_o miracle_n be_v not_o to_o confirm_v any_o point_n of_o popery_n far_o less_o all_o but_o only_o the_o christian_a religion_n it_o be_v true_a epiphanius_n report_v that_o josephus_n who_o former_o have_v be_v a_o jew_n make_v use_v of_o water_n in_o work_v that_o miracle_n but_o not_o any_o of_o the_o four_o kind_n of_o popish_a holy-water_n mention_v by_o durand_n in_o rationali_fw-la lib._n 4._o cap._n 4._o and_o though_o he_o use_v the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n yet_o he_o be_v far_o from_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o cross_n that_o from_o nazianzen_n orat._n 11._o of_o a_o virgin_n invocate_a the_o virgin_n mary_n to_o 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