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intercessionibus_fw-la mitigate_v &_o salutem_fw-la conferte_fw-la some_o of_o these_o too_o in_o as_o high_a expression_n you_o see_v as_o those_o find_v in_o the_o roman_a church_n but_o if_o we_o will_v permit_v which_o be_v all_o reason_n those_o who_o use_v such_o word_n to_o expound_v their_o meaning_n they_o understand_v only_o by_o they_o the_o bless_a virgin_n &_o saint_n procure_v of_o god_n by_o their_o intercession_n those_o favour_n and_o mercy_n which_o they_o ask_v of_o they_o 17._o they_o see_n bell._n the_o sanct_a beat._n l._n 1._o c._n 17._o nor_o be_v they_o apprehend_v to_o preserve_v of_o save_o people_n any_o otherwise_o than_o s._n paul_n do_v 1_o cor._n 9.22_o see_v jeremy_n the_o constantinopolitan_a patriarch_n in_o his_o first_o answer_n to_o the_o lutheran_n divine_v 128._o divine_v p._n 128._o ad_fw-la dominam_fw-la nostram_fw-la &_o ad_fw-la sanctos_fw-la exclamamus_fw-la persancta_fw-la domina_fw-la deipara_n pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la intercede_v peccatoribus_fw-la omnes_fw-la sancti_fw-la angeli_fw-la apostoli_fw-la etc._n etc._n &_o foeminarum_fw-la sanctarum_fw-la caetus_fw-la orate_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la that_o exposition_n therefore_o of_o this_o patriarch_n which_o some_o 502._o some_o see_v mr._n stillingf_n p._n 502._o make_v use_v of_o to_o persuade_v the_o credulous_a as_o if_o the_o grecian_a in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o invocation_n differ_v from_o the_o roman_a church_n 127._o church_n hierem._n p._n 127._o i._o e._n invocatio_fw-la quae_fw-la ad_fw-la sanctos_fw-la fit_a non_fw-la propriè_fw-la invocatio_fw-la fit_n sed_fw-la per_fw-la accidens_fw-la siâ—_n dicendo_fw-la &_o per_fw-la gratiam_fw-la non_fw-la enim_fw-la petrus_n aut_fw-la paulus_n i._n e._n virtue_n naturali_fw-la exaudiunt_fw-la invocatores_fw-la suos_fw-la sed_fw-la illa_fw-la gratia_fw-la quam_fw-la habent_fw-la secundum_fw-la illud_fw-la quod_fw-la dominus_fw-la dixit_fw-la ero_n vobiscum_fw-la usque_fw-la ad_fw-la consummationem_fw-la be_v not_o thus_o to_o be_v understand_v that_o none_o of_o these_o saint_n hear_v or_o at_o least_o by_o some_o other_o way_n know_v man_n prayer_n though_o as_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n observe_v 20_o observe_v de_fw-fr sanctorum_fw-la beatitudine_fw-la l._n 1._o c._n 20_o neither_o thus_o can_v saint_n invocation_n be_v vain_a if_o other_o at_o the_o least_o for_o they_o hear_v and_o grant_v their_o supplicant_n request_n for_o the_o same_o patriarch_n say_v afterward_o p._n 243._o that_o it_o may_v be_v many_o way_n show_v that_o the_o saint_n invocate_v do_v help_v and_o relieve_v do_v presuppose_v also_o that_o they_o know_v man_n necessity_n and_o therefore_o the_o lutheran_n divine_v in_o their_o reply_n endeavour_v to_o prove_v this_o against_o he_o among_o other_o thing_n that_o saint_n hear_v not_o man_n prayer_n but_o he_o mean_v only_o that_o they_o hear_v they_o not_o suis_fw-la viribus_fw-la naturalibus_fw-la but_o per_fw-la supernaturalem_fw-la gratiam_fw-la dei_fw-la as_o he_o explain_v himself_o also_o in_o his_o second_o answer_n p._n 245._o sanctos_fw-la multum_fw-la posse_fw-la cum_fw-la per_fw-la gratiam_fw-la sint_fw-la dii_fw-la inquit_fw-la enim_fw-la psalmorum_fw-la author_n deus_fw-la stetit_fw-la in_o synagogâ_fw-la deorum_fw-la dignitates_fw-la scilicet_fw-la distribuens_fw-la ut_fw-la interpretatur_fw-la divus_o gregorius_n and_o in_o sva_fw-la vitâ_fw-la plenos_fw-la fuisse_fw-la spiritus_fw-la sancti_fw-la atque_fw-la post_fw-la funera_fw-la ipsorum_fw-la ejusdem_fw-la spiritus_fw-la gratiam_fw-la non_fw-la excessisse_fw-la ex_fw-la ipsis_fw-la §_o 162_o e_o concern_v the_o five_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o greek_a church_n for_o the_o decease_a be_v not_o only_o make_v for_o remission_n of_o sin_n at_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n a_o happy_a resurrection_n at_o that_o time_n glory_n life_n eternal_a in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n etc._n etc._n for_o the_o person_n of_o the_o defunct_a but_o also_o for_o present_a remission_n rest_n light_n peace_n refreshment_n cum_fw-la spiritibus_fw-la justorum_fw-la consummatis_fw-la in_fw-la sinu_fw-la abrahae_fw-la in_o paradiso_n in_o loco_fw-la refrigerii_fw-la &_o lucis_fw-la unde_fw-la dolour_n &_o aerumna_fw-la &_o suspiriviu_fw-la exulant_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o defunct_a viz._n of_o such_o defunct_a to_o use_v the_o patriarch_n expression_n 21._o expression_n hieremiae_n patri_fw-la primum_fw-la resp_n c._n 21._o qui_fw-la inter_fw-la paenitendum_fw-la preventi_fw-la morte_fw-la fuere_fw-la nondum_fw-la autem_fw-la peccatorum_fw-la maculas_fw-la eluere_fw-la potuerunt_fw-la for_o rest_n and_o refreshment_n for_o they_o in_o sinu_fw-la abrahae_fw-la etc._n etc._n i_o e._n in_o the_o present_a celestial_a region_n of_o happy_a soul_n imagine_v inferior_a to_o that_o they_o shall_v inhabit_v after_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n so_o in_o the_o modern_a greek_a mass_n it_o be_v say_v offerimus_fw-la tibi_fw-la etc._n etc._n pro_fw-la requie_n &_o remissione_n animae_fw-la servi_fw-la tui_fw-la n._n in_o loco_fw-la lucido_fw-la à _fw-la quo_fw-la abest_fw-la dolour_n &_o gemitus_fw-la and_o fac_n eam_fw-la quiescere_fw-la ubi_fw-la circumspectat_fw-la lumen_fw-la vultus_fw-la tui_fw-la and_o in_o their_o officium_fw-la exequiarum_fw-la apud_fw-la goar_n p._n 525._o cu_z spiritibus_fw-la justis_fw-la consummatis_fw-la animae_fw-la servi_fw-la tui_fw-la salvator_fw-la da_fw-la requiem_n &_o in_o vitam_fw-la aeternam_fw-la quae_fw-la à _fw-la te_fw-la est_fw-la custodi_fw-la illam_fw-la benign_a in_o quietis_fw-la loco_fw-la quo_fw-la sancti_fw-la tui_fw-la cuncti_fw-la resident_a animam_fw-la servi_fw-la tui_fw-la compone_fw-la domine_fw-la quia_fw-la tu_fw-la solus_fw-la es_fw-la clemens_fw-la tu_fw-la deus_fw-la es_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o infernum_fw-la descendisti_fw-la &_o compeditorum_fw-la aerumnas_fw-la solvisti_fw-la ipse_fw-la &_o animae_fw-la servi_fw-la tui_fw-la da_fw-la requiem_n §_o 163_o next_o as_o these_o five_o point_n be_v universal_o hold_v and_o practise_v at_o the_o come_n of_o luther_n so_o it_o may_v seem_v as_o clear_v to_o any_o moderate_a protestant_n that_o the_o forename_a point_n together_o with_o four_o more_o add_v to_o they_o viz._n 1._o communion_n in_o one_o kind_n 2._o veneration_n of_o sacred_a image_n and_o picture_n 3._o monastic_a vow_n and_o celibacy_n of_o the_o clergy_n and_o 4_o auricular_a or_o sacramental_a confession_n of_o all_o mortal_a sin_n and_o the_o injunction_n of_o due_a pennance_n for_o they_o be_v the_o main_a point_n in_o the_o roman_a church_n that_o be_v think_v to_o give_v just_a offence_n and_o to_o have_v necessitate_v a_o reformation_n but_o in_o these_o four_o last_v also_o it_o may_v easy_o be_v show_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n stand_v not_o alone_a but_o that_o these_o point_n also_o be_v and_o be_v at_o the_o appearance_n of_o luther_n the_o common_a practice_n of_o the_o eastern_a church_n in_o such_o a_o manner_n as_o protestant_n 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poenitentiam_fw-la et_fw-la 7_o extremae_fw-la vctionis_fw-la oleum_fw-la of_o which_o see_v below_o §_o 181._o resp_n ad_fw-la 9_o sect_n 172_o for_o these_o many_o difference_n of_o the_o greek_a as_o well_o as_o the_o roman_a from_o the_o reform_a church_n it_o be_v that_o mason_n be_v to_o prove_v a_o case_n of_o necessity_n for_o the_o ordain_v of_o protestant_a minister_n beyond_o sea_n only_o by_o presbyter_n in_o §_o 23._o on_o that_o subject_n argue_v thus_o these_o minister_n can_v not_o receive_v ordination_n from_o the_o popish_a church_n because_o of_o the_o abomination_n of_o their_o sacrifice_a priesthood_n and_o because_o these_o will_v ordain_v none_o but_o in_o a_o popish_a manner_n to_o a_o popish_a priesthood_n etc._n etc._n and_o neither_o say_v he_o by_o the_o same_o reason_n can_v they_o obtain_v ordination_n from_o the_o greek_a church_n for_o bellarmine_n deny_v it_o to_o be_v a_o church_n because_o they_o be_v lawful_o convict_v in_o three_o full_a council_n of_o heresy_n and_o especial_o of_o the_o heresy_n about_o the_o proceed_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n which_o to_o be_v a_o manifest_a heresy_n say_v bellarmine_n both_o the_o lutheran_n and_o the_o calvinist_n do_v confess_v wherefore_o see_v no_o church_n as_o mason_n go_v on_o will_v give_v order_n but_o only_o to_o such_o person_n as_o approve_v their_o doctrine_n therefore_o they_o can_v not_o with_o a_o safe_a conscience_n seek_v to_o the_o greek_a church_n who_o doctrine_n they_o just_o mislike_v and_o be_v thus_o exclude_v from_o the_o greek_a and_o the_o latin_a from_o the_o east_n and_o the_o west_n no_o bishop_n be_v as_o yet_o turn_v protestant_n to_o ordain_v what_o shall_v be_v do_v it_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o the_o magistrate_n not_o to_o suffer_v false_a prophet_n and_o to_o plant_v godly_a preacher_n in_o their_o place_n but_o whence_o shall_v tâ—â—y_o have_v they_o the_o bishop_n be_v so_o faâ—_n fâ—om_n yield_v ordination_n 〈…〉_o tolerable_a manner_n that_o they_o 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supremacy_n may_v be_v gather_v to_o have_v have_v no_o influence_n namely_o transubstantiation_n of_o bread_n into_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n adoration_n of_o the_o eucharist_n oblation_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n as_o a_o propitiatory_a sacrifice_n for_o the_o live_n and_o the_o dead_a prayer_n to_o saint_n veneration_n of_o relic_n and_o image_n prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a confession_n sacramental_a and_o auricular_a lent_n vow_n celibacy_n of_o religious_a interdiction_n of_o priest_n to_o marry_v after_o have_v take_v order_n seven_o sacrament_n use_v in_o divine_a service_n the_o original_a tongue_n not_o understand_v by_o the_o vulgar_a the_o same_o doctrine_n of_o freewill_n and_o justification_n §_o 174_o to_o perron_n add_v grotius_n his_o judgement_n in_o the_o preface_n to_o his_o votum_fw-la pro_fw-la pace_fw-la where_o give_v account_n of_o the_o success_n of_o his_o former_a study_n he_o say_v two_o qui_fw-la secesserant_fw-la the_o reform_a ut_fw-la 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he_o a_o synod_n consist_v of_o the_o metropolitan_o 513._o metropolitan_o l._n 5._o c._n 30._o p._n 513._o and_o bishop_n of_o one_o kingdom_n or_o state_n only_o the_o chief_a primate_n be_v moderator_n 2_o if_o of_o many_o kingdom_n one_o of_o the_o patriarch_n and_o chief_a bishop_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n be_v moderator_n every_o church_n be_v therefore_o this_o of_o england_n as_o to_o ecclesiastical_a governme_n be_v subordinate_a to_o some_o one_o of_o the_o patriarchal_a church_n and_o incorporate_v into_o the_o unity_n of_o it_o 3._o three_o the_o action_n of_o a_o whole_a patriarchship_n be_v subject_a to_o a_o synod_n ecumenical_a and_o elsewhere_o he_o say_v 668._o say_v l._n 5._o c._n 52._o p._n 668._o that_o the_o patriarch_n of_o the_o west_n may_v call_v a_o council_n of_o the_o western_a bishop_n lawful_o punish_v those_o who_o obey_v not_o his_o summons_n and_o he_o and_o ihe_a council_n so_o assemble_v may_v make_v decree_n which_o shall_v be_v obligatory_a to_o 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regulars_n as_o they_o be_v so_o choose_v most_o frequent_o and_o in_o some_o church_n as_o in_o the_o abyssine_n 347._o abyssine_n terre_fw-fr saint_n p._n 347._o and_o i_o think_v in_o the_o greek_a they_o only_o can_v bechosen_a bishop_n for_o the_o four_o auricular_a or_o sacramental_a confession_n 2._o §._o 179._o n._n 2._o and_o penance_n though_o such_o confession_n in_o few_o or_o none_o of_o these_o church_n wherein_o the_o church-discipline_n in_o such_o a_o commixture_n of_o mahometanism_n and_o heathenism_n be_v much_o decay_v be_v so_o strict_o observe_v as_o in_o the_o roman_a or_o yet_o as_o in_o the_o greek_a church_n either_o as_o to_o their_o make_n it_o so_o often_o as_o they_o receive_v the_o communion_n or_o as_o to_o a_o enumeration_n of_o their_o particular_a fault_n when_o they_o make_v it_o yet_o it_o seem_v not_o to_o be_v altogether_o omit_v or_o disuse_v as_o with_o protestant_n it_o be_v zaga_n zabo_n a_o abyssine_a bishop_n say_v morth_o say_v apud_fw-la 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ante_fw-la vigesimum_fw-la aut_fw-la circiter_fw-la annum_fw-la unquam_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la paenitentiae_fw-la reciper_n and_o 416._o and_o ib._n p._n 416._o sacramentum_fw-la confesâ—ionis_fw-la auriculart_n ut_fw-la est_fw-la apud_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la romanam_n confirmationis_fw-la &_o extremae_fw-la vnctionis_fw-la ferè_fw-la non_fw-la agnoscunt_fw-la sacramental_a confession_n therefore_o in_o these_o church_n seem_v rather_o the_o facto_fw-la much_o neglect_a than_o the_o jure_v not_o allow_v or_o require_v and_o look_v rather_o like_o a_o custom_n by_o the_o malignity_n of_o time_n somewhat_o deface_v than_o never_o at_o all_o know_v or_o use_v and_o this_o neglect_n of_o confession_n perhaps_o may_v partly_o arise_v from_o a_o different_a judgement_n they_o have_v of_o mortal_a sin_n the_o only_a necessary_a matter_n of_o confession_n whilst_o they_o account_v some_o few_o of_o the_o great_a only_o such_o §_o 180_o yet_o for_o external_a penance_n and_o austerity_n 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