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thereafter_o live_v whether_o any_o mention_n be_v to_o be_v find_v of_o papal_a indulgence_n 〈◊〉_d their_o antoniâ—â—â—â—_n will_v tell_v we_o say_v there_o be_v no_o testimony_n for_o they_o in_o the_o ancient_a father_n at_o all_o but_o only_o say_v he_o out_o of_o more_o late_a writer_n wherefore_o their_o own_o alfonsus_n à _fw-fr castro_n 4._o upon_o the_o same_o ground_n grant_v that_o their_o use_n say_v he_o be_v only_o of_o late_a in_o the_o church_n just_o therefore_o be_v that_o challenge_v make_v by_o chemnitius_n that_o no_o tâ—stimonie_n can_v be_v produce_v out_o of_o any_o father_n by_o any_o that_o any_o such_o doctrine_n or_o vent_v of_o papal_a indulgence_n be_v in_o use_n in_o the_o church_n for_o the_o space_n almost_o of_o twelve_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n the_o first_o author_n of_o they_o be_v as_o their_o own_o polydor_n and_o agrippa_n tell_v we_o boniface_n the_o eight_o who_o live_v about_o that_o time_n and_o extend_v they_o to_o the_o soul_n in_o purgatory_n and_o for_o the_o better_a sale_n and_o vent_v of_o they_o devyse_v a_o solemn_a jubilee_n be_v therein_o a_o successor_n rather_o to_o simon_n magus_n than_o to_o simon_n peter_n so_o that_o we_o see_v this_o doctrine_n of_o indulgence_n be_v new_a in_o the_o institution_n now_o in_o the_o pâ—actise_n new_a in_o the_o extent_n and_o nâ—w_o every_o way_n and_o consequent_o false_a and_o impious_o deceatfull_a chapt._n xvii_o the_o novelty_n of_o the_o popish_a five_o bastard_n sacrament_n first_o then_o to_o clear_v the_o novelty_n of_o this_o doctrine_n set_v down_o by_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n 4._o with_o such_o a_o dreadful_a fulmination_n of_o a_o curse_n to_o the_o controller_n thereof_o if_o we_o inquire_v beside_o these_o two_o sacrament_n to_o wit_n baptism_n and_o the_o lord_n supper_n whether_o they_o be_v any_o more_o which_o the_o antiquity_n of_o holy_a scripture_n do_v countenance_n and_o allow_v to_o be_v true_a and_o
truth_n and_o her_o former_a estate_n when_o she_o be_v once_o the_o faithful_a city_n it_o be_v our_o duty_n as_o say_v lyrinensis_n to_o receive_v true_a teacher_n with_o the_o church_n but_o not_o with_o false_a teacher_n in_o the_o church_n to_o desert_v the_o true_a faith_n of_o the_o church_n and_o embrace_v novelty_n for_o if_o any_o man_n follow_v he_o philladelph_n say_v ignatius_n who_o have_v depart_v from_o the_o truth_n he_o shall_v never_o inherit_v the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n and_o he_o who_o depart_v not_o from_o a_o teacher_n of_o lie_n shall_v be_v condemn_v to_o hell_n fire_n for_o neither_o must_v we_o depart_v from_o they_o who_o be_v godly_a teacher_n nor_o must_v we_o have_v fellowship_n with_o these_o who_o be_v wicked_a let_v she_o therefore_o with_o ephesus_n return_v to_o her_o first_o love_n renounce_v her_o whoredom_n quite_o her_o error_n reject_v her_o novelâ—ies_n forsake_v her_o idolatry_n and_o from_o babel_n turn_n bethâ—ll_v else_o we_o solemn_o protest_v that_o we_o will_v have_v cure_v babel_n but_o she_o will_v not_o and_o as_o lyrinâ—nâ—is_fw-la speak_v that_o our_o care_n be_v hereby_o to_o reduce_v the_o seduce_a multitude_n of_o the_o woâ—ld_v strike_v with_o the_o cruel_a tempest_n of_o repentive_a heresy_n from_o new_a broach_a error_n to_o the_o ancient_a faith_n from_o the_o phrenesy_n of_o novelty_n to_o their_o wonâ—ed_a health_n and_o from_o the_o blindness_n of_o former_a darkness_n to_o the_o primitive_a light_n of_o most_o sacred_a truth_n that_o so_o god_n may_v have_v 〈◊〉_d ie_o the_o church_n her_o luster_n satan_n a_o overthrow_n babel_n a_o downfall_n the_o saint_n may_v have_v joy_n and_o verity_n the_o victory_n amen_n glory_n to_o he_o who_o give_v ability_n to_o the_o faint_a and_o increase_v strength_n in_o they_o who_o have_v no_o might_n isaiah_n 40._o 29._o a_o appendix_n to_o this_o treatise_n of_o the_o novelty_n of_o popery_n clear_o show_v next_o the_o antiquity_n of_o the_o protestant_a religion_n have_v thus_o single_v out_o popery_n from_o the_o profession_n of_o true_a christian_a religion_n as_o chaff_n from_o the_o corn_n or_o popple_n rather_o from_o the_o good_a wheat_n and_o have_v show_v the_o novelty_n thereof_o as_o of_o a_o disease_n which_o have_v overtake_v a_o body_n which_o be_v sound_a and_o healthful_a at_o first_o but_o like_o babel_n have_v need_n of_o cure_n at_o last_o it_o will_v not_o be_v amiss_o to_o set_v down_o the_o point_n of_o the_o true_a christian_a religion_n which_o be_v that_o only_o ancient_a catholic_a and_o apostolic_a faith_n which_o be_v once_o say_v s._n juda_n deliver_v to_o the_o saint_n and_o which_o in_o all_o the_o positive_a point_n thereof_o we_o at_o this_o day_n contend_v for_o and_o profess_v and_o wherein_o also_o our_o very_a adversary_n do_v not_o dissent_v from_o we_o which_o thing_n do_v serve_v 1._o to_o show_v the_o great_a advantage_n that_o we_o have_v of_o they_o herein_o to_o wit_n that_o what_o be_v the_o positive_a point_n of_o our_o religion_n therein_o they_o agree_v with_o we_o and_o can_v say_v but_o the_o same_o be_v the_o truth_n but_o in_o all_o the_o former_a point_n of_o popery_n which_o they_o do_v profess_v we_o just_o disagree_v from_o they_o because_o of_o the_o prove_a novelty_n thereof_o and_o disagreement_n from_o the_o word_n of_o god_n next_o this_o shall_v serve_v to_o answer_v two_o ordinary_a and_o customable_a question_n of_o they_o to_o wit_n 1._o whereby_o they_o ask_v where_o be_v our_o religion_n before_o luther_n and_o 2._o what_o become_v of_o the_o soul_n of_o our_o forefather_n who_o die_v before_o the_o reformation_n first_o then_o this_o catholic_a antiquity_n of_o our_o doctrine_n we_o shall_v prove_v god_n willing_a by_o the_o plain_a inâ—uction_n only_o of_o the_o positive_a point_n thereof_o wherein_o as_o be_v say_v our_o very_a adversary_n the_o romanist_n themselves_o do_v agree_v first_o therefore_o concerning_o the_o scripture_n we_o say_v according_a to_o scripture_n that_o they_o be_v the_o sure_a and_o safe_a rule_n of_o faith_n and_o so_o say_v bellarmine_n 2._o bell._n l._n 1._o de_fw-la verbâ—_z c_n 2._o with_o we_o the_o scripture_n be_v the_o rule_n of_o our_o faith_n most_o sure_a and_o most_o safe_a say_v he_o 2._o we_o say_v that_o all_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n and_o manner_n which_o be_v simple_o necessary_a for_o all_o man_n be_v plain_o set_v down_o in_o scripture_n and_o so_o do_v bellarmine_n profess_v ultimo_fw-la bell._n l._n 4._o de_fw-la verbo_fw-la c_o 11._o ultimo_fw-la that_o as_o this_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o augustine_n so_o it_o be_v true_a of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n say_v he_o which_o be_v simple_o necessary_a for_o all_o man_n to_o salvation_n 3._o next_o to_o the_o word_n to_o come_v to_o the_o sacrament_n we_o say_v that_o baptism_n and_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v the_o two_o proper_a sacrament_n institute_v by_o christ_n unto_o our_o salvation_n 24â—_z bell._n l._n 2._o de_fw-la effectâ—_z sacrâ—_z c._n 24â—_z and_o this_o bellarmine_n also_o confess_v say_v of_o baptism_n and_o the_o lord_n supper_n there_o be_v no_o question_n at_o all_o 4._o we_o say_v that_o in_o the_o lord_n supper_n the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v present_a not_o only_o in_o a_o sign_n or_o figure_n but_o true_o and_o real_o yet_o spiritual_o and_o mystical_o vegula_fw-la bell._n l._n â—_z de_fw-fr euchar_n c._n 20._o §._o 30._o vegula_fw-la and_o so_o do_v bellarmine_n confess_v as_o bernard_n teach_v in_o his_o sermon_n of_o s._n martin_n where_o he_o say_v that_o in_o the_o sacrament_n be_v exâ—ibite_v unto_o we_o the_o true_a substance_n of_o christ_n flesh_n but_o yet_o spiritual_o not_o carnal_o say_v he_o 5._o from_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n to_o come_v to_o the_o church_n we_o say_v that_o the_o rock_n whereon_o the_o same_o be_v build_v 10._o bell._n l._n 1._o de_fw-fr rom._n pont_n â—_z 10._o be_v christ_n and_o so_o grant_v bellarmine_n say_v no_o man_n doubt_v but_o christ_n be_v that_o rock_n 6._o as_o he_o be_v the_o rock_n and_o foundation_n we_o say_v in_o like-manner_n that_o he_o be_v the_o only_a head_n and_o king_n of_o his_o church_n and_o so_o say_v bellarmine_n 31._o bell_n l._n 2._o de_fw-fr rom._n pont_n c._n 31._o only_a christ_n be_v the_o head_n of_o all_o the_o church_n and_o all_o other_o under_o he_o be_v not_o head_n nor_o prince_n thereof_o 7._o as_o he_o be_v only_a king_n so_o be_v he_o the_o high_a priest_n thereof_o who_o righteousness_n and_o suffering_n in_o our_o justification_n be_v make_v we_o so_o that_o we_o may_v offer_v up_o the_o same_o unto_o the_o father_n as_o we_o for_o the_o remission_n of_o our_o sin_n and_o so_o say_v bellarmine_n that_o christ_n be_v call_v our_o righteousness_n 10._o bell._n l._n 2_o de_fw-la â—ustif_n â—_z 10._o bâ—cause_v he_o have_v satisfy_v the_o father_n for_o we_o and_o so_o gift_v unto_o we_o 〈◊〉_d satisfaction_n say_v he_o and_o communicate_v it_o to_o we_o when_o he_o justify_v we_o that_o it_o may_v be_v call_v our_o satisfaction_n and_o righteousness_n and_o this_o way_n it_o be_v not_o absurd_a for_o any_o man_n to_o say_v that_o christ_n righteousness_n and_o merit_n be_v impute_v to_o we_o say_v he_o see_v they_o be_v so_o give_v and_o apply_v to_o we_o as_o if_o we_o ourselves_o have_v make_v satisfaction_n to_o god_n 8_o we_o say_v that_o good_a work_n be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n as_o bellarmine_n acknowledge_v 1._o bell._n l._n 4._o de_fw-fr justif._n c._n 1._o say_v calâ—in_n and_o luther_n do_v teach_v that_o good_a work_n be_v to_o be_v do_v and_o in_o some_o sort_n be_v necessary_a †_o 10._o †_o ephes._n 2._o 10._o see_v they_o affirm_v that_o it_o be_v not_o true_a faith_n which_o bring_v not_o forth_o good_a work_n and_o so_o say_v the_o romanist_n jump_v herein_o with_o we_o 9_o yet_o notwithstanding_o that_o we_o affirm_v they_o to_o be_v necessary_a we_o say_v that_o to_o obtain_v salvation_n it_o be_v the_o only_a safe_a way_n to_o put_v our_o whole_a confidence_n in_o the_o only_a mercy_n of_o god_n and_o merit_n of_o christ_n only_o and_o so_o say_v bellarmine_n for_o the_o uncertainty_n of_o our_o own_o righteousness_n 7._o bell_n l._n 5._o de_fw-fr â—ustif_n c._n 7._o and_o danger_n of_o vain_a glory_n say_v he_o it_o be_v safe_a to_o repose_v our_o whole_a confidence_n in_o the_o only_a mercy_n and_o free_a favour_n of_o god_n 10._o likewise_o for_o religious_a worship_n we_o say_v that_o the_o holy_a trinity_n be_v to_o be_v so_o worship_v and_o to_o god_n only_o we_o shall_v pray_v as_o the_o author_n and_o giver_n of_o all_o good_a thing_n 20._o bell._n l._n 1._o de_fw-fr sâ—nct_n c._n 20._o and_o so_o say_v bellarmine_n that_o this_o most_o divyne_n excellency_n be_v to_o be_v worship_v and_o
luther_n 5._o that_o the_o bishop_n of_o româ—_n may_v err_v and_o have_v err_v the_o six_o general_n council_n hold_v at_o constantinople_n of_o 289._o bishop_n anâ—_z the_o seven_o general_n council_n assemble_v at_o nice_a declare_v thiâ—_z in_o the_o person_n of_o honoriuâ—_z witâ—_z sundry_a latter_a roman_a doctoures_fw-la reader_n authoâ—rity_n of_o scripture_n whether_o i_o referrâ—_n the_o reader_n long_o before_o luther_n 6._o that_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n have_v no_o supremacy_n over_o the_o whole_a church_n as_o universal_a bishop_n thereof_o nor_o yet_o anâ—e_n other_o s._n cyprian_n and_o their_o own_o pope_n gâ—egorie_n the_o first_o have_v at_o length_n maintain_v long_o before_o luther_n 7._o that_o public_a prayer_n or_o any_o other_o divyne_n service_n in_o the_o church_n shall_v not_o be_v say_v in_o a_o tongue_n unknown_a to_o the_o people_n beside_o s._n paul_n ambrose_n chrysostome_n seduliuâ—_z and_o haymo_n teach_v clear_o long_o before_o luther_n 8._o that_o god_n only_o be_v to_o be_v pray_v unto_o and_o neither_o saint_n nor_o angel_n ignatiuâ—_z martyr_n oriâ—gen_n and_o other_o deliver_v long_o before_o luther_n 9_o that_o no_o image_n be_v to_o be_v any_o way_n worship_v the_o council_n of_o eliberis_n augustine_n and_o pope_n gregory_n himself_o with_o diverse_a other_o declare_v long_o before_o luther_n 10._o that_o no_o relic_n of_o saint_n or_o martyr_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v s._n cyrill_n and_o jerome_n do_v teach_v long_o before_o luther_n 11._o against_o freewill_n or_o the_o indifferency_n thereof_o in_o the_o estate_n of_o corruption_n either_o to_o good_a or_o evil_a the_o council_n of_o orange_n oppose_v itself_o with_o augustine_n prosper_n and_o bernard_n and_o diverse_a other_o long_o before_o luther_n 12._o that_o we_o be_v not_o justify_v before_o god_n by_o our_o own_o work_n or_o inherent_a righteousness_n ambrose_n bernard_n and_o many_o more_o maintain_v long_o before_o luther_n 13._o that_o none_o be_v able_a in_o this_o life_n to_o keep_v god_n law_n perfect_o let_v be_v to_o supererogate_v lactaentius_fw-la firmianus_n jerome_n and_o sundry_a other_o have_v testify_v long_o before_o luther_n 14._o that_o no_o man_n be_v able_a by_o his_o own_o work_n to_o merit_v eternal_a life_n s._n basill_n augustine_n bernard_n and_o many_o more_o have_v clear_o demonstrate_v long_o before_o luther_n 15._o that_o there_o be_v no_o purgatory_n or_o place_n where_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o godly_a go_v unto_o after_o this_o life_n but_o only_o heaven_n cyrill_n gregory_n nazianzen_n and_o diverse_a other_o have_v teach_v we_o long_o before_o luther_n 16._o against_o the_o absolute_a necessity_n of_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n augustine_n bernard_n and_o other_o have_v instruct_v we_o long_o before_o luther_n 17._o that_o there_o be_v no_o transubstantiation_n in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n ireneus_fw-la theodoret_n pope_n gelasius_n bertram_n and_o sundry_a other_o have_v clear_o declare_v long_o before_o luther_n 18._o that_o the_o cup_n shall_v not_o be_v withhold_v from_o the_o people_n ignatius_n justine_n martyr_n and_o chrysostome_n teach_v and_o as_o the_o council_n of_o constance_n grant_v the_o primitive_a church_n practise_v yea_o as_o cassander_n show_v we_o the_o whole_a roman_a church_n maintain_v and_o practise_v for_o the_o space_n of_o a_o thousand_o year_n long_o before_o luther_n 19_o that_o in_o the_o mass_n there_o be_v no_o proper_a propâ—tiatorie_a sacrifice_n for_o the_o quick_a and_o the_o dead_a chrysostome_n eusebius_n ambrose_n with_o many_o other_o even_o of_o their_o own_o latter_a doctoures_fw-la as_o lombard_n and_o aquinas_n have_v teach_v we_o long_o before_o luther_n and_o if_o they_o inquire_v fâ—rder_n of_o any_o people_n before_o luther_n who_o profess_v as_o we_o do_v and_o oppose_v these_o doctrine_n of_o popery_n which_o we_o this_o day_n oppose_v we_o name_n to_o they_o the_o waldenses_n as_o they_o term_v they_o of_o who_o their_o own_o raynerus_n 4._o raynerus_fw-la lib._n contra_fw-la waldensis_fw-la c._n 4._o testify_v that_o there_o be_v in_o every_o country_n of_o they_o and_o that_o they_o live_v righteous_o and_o believe_v all_o thing_n aright_o concerning_o god_n and_o hold_v all_o the_o article_n contain_v in_o the_o creed_n only_o that_o they_o speak_v against_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n 3._o thua_n nus_fw-la l._n 6._o hist._n de_fw-fr doc._n trin_n waldensin_n fasciâ—_z temp._n in_fw-la vita_fw-la innoc_n 3._o to_o wit_n her_o corruption_n the_o particular_n where-of_a their_o own_o thuanuâ—_z declare_v to_o be_v these_o that_o they_o speak_v against_o purgatory_n the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n the_o worship_n of_o saynct_v and_o soule-mass_n etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o against_o who_o innocent_n the_o three_o cause_v preach_v a_o crusado_n everywhere_o for_o their_o extirpation_n as_o their_o own_o charter_n monk_n the_o author_n of_o fasciculuâ—_z temporum_fw-la do_v 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