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the_o heart_n of_o they_o which_o remain_v upon_o earth_n be_v open_a to_o the_o 〈◊〉_d saint_n be_v not_o affirm_v by_o these_o father_n s._n hierome_n against_o vigilantius_n speak_v in_o heat_n of_o disputation_n but_o he_o affirm_v in_o another_o place_n noscere_fw-la that_o because_o jesus_n know_v the_o thought_n of_o some_o of_o the_o scribe_n he_o do_v thereby_o show_v himself_o to_o be_v god_n jesuit_fw-la three_o it_o be_v clear_o to_o be_v prove_v by_o scripture_n that_o holy_a angel_n see_v the_o prayer_n and_o action_n and_o affection_n of_o man_n in_o the_o apocalypse_n a_o angel_n offer_v unto_o god_n the_o 4._o prayer_n of_o man_n which_o he_o can_v not_o have_v do_v have_v he_o not_o know_v they_o answer_n first_o the_o place_n of_o s._n john_n apocal._n 8.4_o prove_v not_o either_o clear_o or_o obscure_o that_o holy_a angel_n hear_v the_o prayer_n or_o see_v the_o action_n and_o affection_n of_o man_n for_o the_o angel_n mention_v be_v expound_v by_o the_o ancient_a 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15.10_o the_o conversion_n of_o a_o sinner_n so_o they_o must_v needs_o know_v it_o nor_o can_v they_o know_v it_o without_o know_v the_o sinner_n heart_n conversion_n not_o be_v true_a nor_o worthy_a of_o joy_n except_o it_o proceed_v from_o the_o heart_n answer_n not_o only_o the_o angel_n of_o god_n but_o holy_a man_n on_o earth_n rejoice_v at_o the_o conversion_n of_o a_o sinner_n luke_n 15.24_o 2._o cor._n 7.9_o likewise_o parent_n minister_n and_o 〈◊〉_d rejoice_v etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o it_o follow_v not_o from_o hence_o that_o holy_a man_n on_o earth_n which_o rejoice_v at_o the_o conversion_n of_o a_o sinner_n see_v the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n 1._o cor._n 2.11_o so_o likewise_o angel_n which_o be_v minister_a spirit_n heb._n 1.14_o may_v understand_v by_o the_o sign_n and_o fruit_n of_o true_a repentance_n the_o conversion_n of_o diverse_a sinner_n and_o consequent_o they_o may_v rejoice_v without_o intuitive_a
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be_v our_o advocate_n and_o that_o by_o he_o we_o have_v access_n to_o the_o throne_n of_o grace_n 〈◊〉_d or_o that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v leave_v a_o manifest_a and_o certain_a rule_n of_o prayer_n in_o the_o church_n consider_v that_o these_o man_n be_v so_o presumptuous_a upon_o their_o own_o frivolous_a surmise_n to_o prescribe_v a_o form_n of_o religious_a invocation_n jesuit_fw-la jesuit_o 5._o invocation_n to_o saint_n not_o a_o injury_n but_o a_o honour_n to_o christ_n the_o only_a mediator_n another_o show_n of_o piety_n pretend_v against_o prayer_n unto_o saint_n be_v that_o it_o seem_v to_o overthrow_v the_o mediatorship_n of_o christ_n which_o s._n paul_n commend_v as_o only_o unus_fw-la mediator_n dei_fw-la &_o hominum_fw-la christus_fw-la jesus_n but_o 2.3_o in_o show_v the_o inanitie_n of_o this_o shadow_n i_o shall_v not_o need_v to_o be_v long_o see_v this_o respect_n will_v make_v we_o also_o neglect_v and_o not_o use_v the_o mediation_n of_o live_a saint_n 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manufacta_fw-la praecationibus_fw-la ambiant_fw-la say_v tertul._n apol._n c._n 39_o that_o go_v to_o god_n hand_n in_o hand_n they_o may_v entreat_v he_o beside_o invocation_n and_o prayer_n proper_o take_v praesuppose_v in_o they_o we_o pray_v unto_o understand_v the_o thought_n and_o motion_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o all_o religious_a prayer_n be_v a_o mental_a action_n understand_v by_o he_o who_o man_n deprecate_v but_o the_o live_a saint_n understand_v not_o the_o secret_n of_o each_o other_o heart_n therefore_o speak_v proper_o no_o man_n pray_v to_o live_a saint_n also_o religious_a prayer_n be_v a_o communication_n with_o god_n deo_fw-la and_o a_o proper_a worship_n of_o god_n and_o a_o action_n of_o latria_n 2._o last_o no_o precept_n or_o example_n be_v extant_a in_o holy_a scripture_n prove_v that_o just_a person_n do_v at_o any_o time_n pray_v to_o live_a saint_n be_v absent_a or_o to_o live_a saint_n by_o collet_n or_o set_v form_n of_o public_a devotion_n in_o such_o 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rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n plenitudine_fw-la with_o he_o john_n 20._o 23._o eph._n 2.20_o apoc._n 21.14_o matth._n 28.19_o three_o to_o be_v a_o ministerial_a rock_n and_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o to_o be_v the_o sole_a monarch_n of_o the_o church_n because_o st._n peter_n may_v be_v such_o in_o regard_n of_o his_o preach_a and_o doctrine_n as_o the_o other_o apostle_n be_v and_o not_o in_o respect_n of_o monarchical_a dominion_n hereupon_o turrecremate_n in_o his_o sum._n d._n eccles._n lib._n 2._o cap._n 11._o say_v non_fw-la argumentati_fw-la sumus_fw-la petrum_fw-la primatum_fw-la habuisse_fw-la quia_fw-la dictus_fw-la fuit_fw-la fundamentum_fw-la aut_fw-la petra_n ecclesiae_fw-la sed_fw-la quia_fw-la singulariter_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o argue_v not_o saint_n peter_n have_v the_o primacy_n because_o he_o be_v call_v the_o foundation_n or_o rock_n of_o the_o church_n but_o because_o he_o be_v in_o a_o singular_a manner_n so_o call_v but_o if_o the_o name_n of_o 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sleight_n and_o invention_n propugne_v it_o that_o all_o intelligent_a and_o impartial_a man_n may_v plain_o discern_v that_o this_o doctrine_n of_o papal_a supremacy_n be_v build_v upon_o the_o sand_n for_o if_o the_o roman_a bishop_n have_v be_v appoint_v and_o establish_v the_o perpetual_a successor_n of_o saint_n peter_n in_o manner_n before_o mention_v either_o our_o saviour_n himself_o will_v immediate_o expresl_o and_o manifest_o have_v reveal_v the_o same_o to_o his_o church_n or_o the_o holy_a apostle_n will_v have_v take_v notice_n thereof_o and_o declare_v the_o same_o to_o other_o also_o saint_n peter_n must_v have_v carry_v himself_o as_o a_o monarch_n among_o the_o other_o apostle_n and_o exercise_v the_o action_n of_o sovereignty_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n but_o we_o find_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n no_o supereminent_a jurisdiction_n or_o monarchical_a action_n exercise_v by_o he_o 〈◊〉_d no_o vassalage_n and_o subjection_n yield_v he_o by_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o if_o he_o must_v have_v have_v a_o successor_n in_o his_o monarchy_n the_o apostle_n suruive_v he_o tempora_fw-la shall_v rather_o have_v be_v his_o successor_n than_o the_o ordinary_a pastor_n of_o one_o diocese_n the_o spirit_n of_o god_n also_o together_o with_o so_o eminent_a authority_n will_v have_v confer_v upon_o 〈◊〉_d successor_n extraordinary_a grace_n of_o learning_n wisdom_n holiness_n etc._n etc._n necessary_a for_o so_o high_a a_o call_n also_o it_o be_v not_o probable_a that_o eusebius_n and_o other_o ancient_a ecclesiastical_a historian_n will_v altogether_o have_v be_v silent_a of_o this_o monarchical_a authority_n of_o the_o roman_a bishop_n neither_o will_v any_o orthodox_n father_n or_o general_a council_n have_v confine_v the_o roman_a pontife_n to_o equal_a bound_n with_o other_o patriarch_n but_o the_o ancient_a ecclesiastical_a story_n be_v absolute_o silent_a of_o such_o a_o swell_a etc._n pre-eminence_n as_o modern_a papal_o claim_v and_o the_o father_n and_o counsel_n contest_v the_o same_o pope_n stephan_n be_v slight_v by_o st._n cyprian_n and_o the_o bishop_n of_o africa_n meam_fw-la when_o he_o enterpose_v in_o their_o affair_n and_o pope_n victor_n by_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o east_n 26._o the_o ecumenical_a council_n of_o chalcedon_n existentem_fw-la equal_v the_o patriarch_n of_o constantinople_n to_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n gregory_n the_o great_a 34._o himself_o give_v the_o papacy_n a_o deadly_a blow_n and_o a_o great_a part_n of_o christianity_n papae_fw-la have_v ever_o to_o this_o day_n oppose_v the_o papal_a primacy_n therefore_o it_o be_v most_o improbable_a that_o this_o doctrine_n shall_v be_v fundamental_a verity_n which_o have_v no_o 〈◊〉_d or_o infallible_a ground_n in_o divine_a revelation_n want_v also_o the_o suffrage_n of_o all_o ancient_a ecclesiastical_a testimony_n jesuit_fw-la fourthly_o their_o deny_v the_o foundation_n of_o true_a 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v one_o true_a catholic_a christian_n faith_n about_o reveal_v mystery_n bring_v in_o a_o fantastical_a faith_n pretend_v that_o every_o man_n be_v justify_v by_o believe_v himself_o to_o be_v just_a or_o one_o of_o god_n elect._n answer_n you_o ought_v first_o to_o have_v weigh_v our_o doctrine_n concern_v the_o definition_n of_o faith_n and_o have_v compare_v the_o same_o with_o the_o tenet_n of_o sundry_a of_o your_o own_o doctor_n before_o you_o have_v accuse_v we_o of_o fundamental_a error_n about_o the_o same_o first_o we_o maintain_v that_o true_a christian_a catholic_a faith_n be_v a_o 〈◊〉_d and_o foundation_n to_o wit_n on_o man_n part_n of_o justification_n 22._o heb._n 11.6_o rom._n 1.17_o jud._n v_o 20._o second_o we_o deny_v that_o every_o man_n be_v justify_v by_o only_o believe_v himself_o to_o be_v just_a for_o he_o must_v be_v true_o just_a before_o he_o can_v or_o aught_o to_o believe_v himself_o to_o be_v so_o sequitur_fw-la the_o promise_n of_o remission_n of_o sin_n be_v conditional_a contingit_fw-la 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they_o shall_v be_v assessor_n with_o christ_n mat._n 19_o 28.1_o cor._n 6_o 2._o and_o in_o this_o manner_n the_o ancient_a expositor_n victorinus_n arethas_n beda_n rupertus_n ansbertus_n and_o also_o hugo_n carensis_n albertus_n lira_n viegas_n alchasar_n &c_n &c_n expound_v the_o first_o place_n revel_v 2.26_o iudicij_fw-la the_o second_o place_n revel_v 3.12_o be_v expound_v of_o such_o as_o be_v pillar_n in_o the_o church_n militant_a by_o gregory_n ticonius_n primasius_n haimo_n beda_n andreas_n aretas_n anselmus_n richardus_fw-la joachimus_fw-la albertus_n lira_n thomas_n zegerus_n and_o suares_n as_o alchasar_n expositio_fw-la the_o jesuit_n cit_v they_o in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o that_o text_n who_o also_o confute_v ribera_n etc._n expound_v the_o same_o of_o the_o church_n triumphant_a the_o three_o place_n apocal._n 5._o 10._o be_v expound_v of_o the_o church_n militant_a by_o rupertus_n hugo_n carensis_n gagneus_fw-la albertus_n alchasar_n etc._n etc._n and_o if_o it_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o bless_a saint_n they_o reign_n upon_o earth_n by_o their_o doctrine_n and_o virtuous_a example_n which_o they_o have_v leave_v behind_o they_o and_o they_o reign_v upon_o earth_n also_o not_o in_o their_o own_o person_n by_o actual_a regiment_n but_o in_o the_o person_n of_o christ_n their_o head_n ambrose_n ansbertus_n terris_fw-la who_o live_v in_o the_o year_n 890_o have_v these_o word_n that_o power_n which_o the_o only_a beget_v son_n of_o god_n be_v make_v man_n in_o time_n receive_v of_o his_o father_n he_o promise_v to_o give_v to_o his_o elect_n but_o in_o himself_o by_o who_o the_o whole_a body_n be_v rule_v and_o to_o who_o the_o whole_a body_n of_o the_o church_n be_v unite_v for_o he_o as_o the_o apostle_n say_v be_v the_o head_n of_o all_o the_o elect._n if_o any_o member_n therefore_o shall_v be_v worthy_a to_o continue_v with_o the_o head_n he_o be_v true_o say_v to_o have_v that_o which_o the_o head_n himself_o be_v prove_v to_o possess_v by_o right_a of_o inheritance_n the_o like_a be_v say_v by_o haimo_n jure_fw-la and_o from_o hence_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o jesuit_n exposition_n of_o the_o place_n in_o the_o revelation_n be_v voluntary_a novel_a never_o hear_v off_o in_o the_o ancient_a church_n nor_o deliver_v by_o elder_a pontifician_n neither_o be_v the_o same_o follow_v at_o this_o day_n by_o the_o learned_a expositor_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n itself_o and_o therefore_o his_o argument_n be_v raise_v upon_o scripture_n fond_o expound_v 329._o be_v of_o no_o force_n for_o when_o he_o argue_v in_o this_o manner_n saint_n partake_v with_o christ_n in_o the_o rule_n and_o government_n of_o the_o world_n ergo_fw-la they_o hear_v and_o understand_v the_o prayer_n and_o devotion_n of_o the_o live_n which_o be_v make_v unto_o they_o our_o answer_n be_v that_o the_o bless_a saint_n do_v not_o partake_v with_o christ_n as_o his_o minister_n vicegerent_n or_o coadjutor_n in_o the_o actual_a rule_n and_o government_n of_o the_o inferior_a world_n but_o they_o only_o partake_v with_o he_o in_o his_o government_n as_o the_o friend_n of_o the_o bride-chamber_n partake_v with_o the_o bridegroom_n by_o rejoice_v consent_v and_o reap_v increase_n of_o glory_n and_o happiness_n by_o his_o actual_a rule_n and_o government_n and_o this_o latter_a copartnership_n with_o christ_n in_o government_n prove_v not_o that_o the_o bless_a saint_n hear_v and_o understand_v the_o prayer_n of_o the_o live_n but_o to_o make_v his_o sequel_n good_a the_o jesuit_n must_v prove_v both_o that_o bless_a saint_n partake_v with_o christ_n according_a to_o the_o first_o branch_n of_o my_o distinction_n and_o also_o that_o they_o partake_v with_o he_o entire_o and_o perfect_o in_o every_o action_n of_o his_o government_n etc._n for_o it_o be_v possible_a for_o one_o to_o be_v of_o council_n and_o to_o be_v assistant_n in_o government_n to_o a_o king_n and_o yet_o not_o to_o be_v partaker_n of_o all_o the_o king_n
knowledge_n of_o the_o heart_n second_o our_o saviour_n word_n luk._n 15.10_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o conclusion_n of_o a_o parable_n which_o must_v not_o be_v strain_v beyond_o the_o true_a scope_n etc._n but_o according_a to_o the_o exposition_n of_o sundry_a father_n 168._o and_o some_o learned_a papist_n 〈◊〉_d the_o hundred_o sheep_n vers._n 4._o represent_v the_o whole_a body_n of_o the_o elect_n consist_v of_o man_n and_o angel_n the_o ninety_o and_o nine_o sheep_n not_o lose_v be_v the_o angel_n persist_v in_o their_o prime_a integrity_n the_o stray_n sheep_n all_o mankind_n sin_v in_o adam_n to_o recover_v this_o lose_a sheep_n the_o son_n of_o god_n that_o good_a shepherd_n john_n 10._o 11._o be_v incarnate_a and_o by_o the_o gracious_a work_n of_o redemption_n he_o lay_v the_o same_o on_o his_o shoulder_n now_o there_o be_v great_a joy_n in_o heaven_n before_o the_o celestial_a angel_n for_o this_o recovery_n and_o salvation_n of_o mankind_n but_o if_o this_o exposition_n be_v admit_v no_o more_o can_v be_v infer_v but_o that_o the_o court_n of_o heaven_n and_o in_o the_o same_o the_o holy_a angel_n rejoice_v because_o of_o man_n redemption_n neither_o be_v it_o consequent_a the_o holy_a angel_n rejoice_v because_o of_o the_o conversion_n and_o reduction_n of_o mankind_n ergo_fw-la they_o know_v distinct_o and_o perpetual_o the_o particular_a quality_n of_o every_o individual_a sinner_n repentance_n last_o if_o the_o say_a word_n luke_n 15._o 10._o be_v understand_v of_o sinner_n in_o particular_a this_o text_n yet_o fall_v short_a to_o prove_v that_o all_o the_o celestial_a angel_n perpetual_o and_o at_o the_o very_a instant_n know_v the_o particular_a true_a repentance_n of_o every_o sinner_n individual_o for_o the_o same_o may_v be_v understand_v according_a to_o this_o supposition_n or_o reflection_n to_o wit_n there_o be_v joy_n before_o the_o angel_n of_o heaven_n over_o one_o sinner_n which_o repent_v when_o the_o repentance_n of_o this_o one_o sinner_n be_v make_v know_v unto_o they_o but_o it_o be_v not_o say_v neither_o can_v it_o be_v infer_v that_o celestial_a angel_n know_v constant_o and_o at_o all_o time_n when_o each_o individual_a person_n repent_v true_o our_o adversary_n therefore_o can_v ground_v a_o infallible_a doctrine_n touch_v angelical_a science_n upon_o a_o branch_n of_o a_o parable_n which_o according_a to_o themselves_o admit_v diverse_a exposition_n and_o the_o consequence_n whereof_o be_v not_o necessary_a but_o contingent_a and_o upon_o supposition_n jesuit_fw-la saint_n paul_n say_v we_o be_v make_v a_o spectacle_n unto_o god_n 9_o and_o angel_n and_o he_o adjure_v timothy_n by_o god_n and_o his_o angel_n which_o show_v that_o we_o live_v in_o the_o sight_n of_o angel_n and_o that_o they_o behold_v what_o we_o do_v and_o hear_v what_o we_o say_v even_o in_o our_o heart_n answer_n saint_n paul_n word_n be_v 1._o corinth_n 4._o 9_o we_o be_v make_v a_o spectacle_n to_o the_o world_n and_o to_o angel_n and_o man_n angelis_n laudantibus_fw-la &_o vituperantibus_fw-la hominibus_fw-la laudantibus_fw-la &_o vituperantibus_fw-la 38._o say_v saint_n augustine_n to_o good_a angel_n praise_v we_o to_o evil_a angel_n dispraise_v we_o to_o good_a man_n commend_v we_o and_o to_o wicked_a man_n condemn_v and_o deride_v us._n the_o consequence_n of_o this_o argument_n we_o be_v a_o spectacle_n to_o angel_n therefore_o angel_n understand_v and_o see_v our_o thought_n be_v childish_a for_o as_o saint_n paul_n be_v a_o spectacle_n to_o angel_n so_o he_o be_v a_o spectacle_n to_o good_a man_n and_o bad_a man_n and_o yet_o the_o jesuite_n will_v blush_v to_o argue_v hence_o ergo_fw-la good_a man_n and_o bad_a man_n behold_v the_o heart_n second_o as_o saint_n paul_n say_v i_o testify_v before_o god_n and_o the_o elect_a angel_n so_o moses_n say_v i_o call_v this_o day_n heaven_n and_o earth_n witness_n deuteron_n 4._o 26._o &_o 32._o 1._o and_o isaiah_n say_v hear_v oh_o heaven_n and_o hearken_v oh_o earth_n chap._n 1._o v._n 2._o every_o creature_n therefore_o which_o god_n call_v to_o witness_v or_o adjure_v man_n by_o be_v not_o a_o fearcher_n and_o beholder_n of_o the_o thought_n and_o affection_n of_o the_o heart_n jesuit_fw-la but_o as_o the_o same_o scripture_n aver_v the_o saint_n be_v like_a 112._o unto_o the_o angel_n and_o equal_a unto_o the_o angel_n and_o in_o heaven_n the_o same_o be_v the_o measure_n of_o a_o man_n and_o of_o a_o angel_n ergo_fw-la knowledge_n of_o our_o prayer_n be_v not_o to_o be_v deny_v unto_o glorious_a saint_n the_o fellow_n of_o angel_n answer_n matth._n 22._o 30._o our_o saviour_n say_v that_o in_o the_o resurrection_n neither_o shall_v they_o marry_v nor_o be_v marry_v but_o be_v as_o the_o angel_n of_o god_n in_o heaven_n luke_n 20._o 36._o they_o which_o shall_v be_v count_v worthy_a of_o that_o world_n and_o the_o resurrection_n from_o the_o dead_a neither_o marry_v nor_o take_v wife_n neither_o can_v they_o die_v any_o more_o for_o they_o be_v equal_a to_o angel_n and_o be_v the_o child_n of_o god_n see_v they_o be_v the_o son_n of_o the_o resurrection_n in_o these_o word_n first_o the_o subject_n be_v just_a people_n at_o the_o resurrection_n second_o concern_v these_o our_o saviour_n affirm_v that_o they_o shall_v not_o marry_v etc._n etc._n three_o they_o shall_v be_v as_o angel_n and_o equal_a to_o angel_n four_o he_o express_v wherein_o they_o shall_v be_v so_o to_o wit_n first_o in_o freedom_n from_o secular_a action_n and_o passion_n second_o in_o glorious_a adoption_n or_o real_a possession_n of_o all_o the_o privilege_n of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n now_o i_o admire_v what_o papist_n can_v extort_v from_o hence_o ib._n for_o invocation_n of_o saint_n for_o there_o be_v no_o connexion_n between_o this_o antecedent_n and_o consequent_a to_o wit_n just_a man_n at_o the_o resurrection_n shall_v live_v as_o angel_n remote_a from_o all_o the_o necessity_n of_o a_o worldly_a life_n and_o they_o shall_v be_v as_o the_o angel_n of_o god_n free_a from_o material_a and_o corporeal_a passion_n and_o equal_a to_o the_o angel_n in_o fruition_n of_o blessedness_n ergo_fw-la the_o knowledge_n of_o our_o prayer_n which_o we_o make_v in_o this_o life_n be_v not_o to_o be_v deny_v unto_o glorious_a saint_n the_o fellow_n of_o angel_n the_o place_n of_o the_o revelation_n chap._n 21.17_o be_v expound_v by_o learned_a papist_n three_o way_n cediderunt_fw-la first_o the_o beatitude_n of_o man_n and_o angel_n shall_v be_v measure_v with_o the_o same_o model_n to_o wit_n according_a to_o the_o proportion_n of_o their_o grace_n &_o charity_n second_o man_n shall_v attain_v the_o measure_n of_o angelical_a glory_n by_o succeed_v into_o the_o place_n of_o they_o that_o fall_v three_o the_o hundred_o forty_o four_o cubit_n mention_v in_o that_o place_n were_z meat_z by_o a_o measure_n contain_v the_o length_n of_o a_o man_n which_o be_v the_o meat-wand_n or_o measure_v which_o the_o angel_n hold_v in_o his_o hand_n and_o this_o latter_a exposition_n of_o the_o text_n be_v the_o literal_a sense_n according_a to_o alchasar_n mensuram_fw-la ribera_n hominis_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o from_o none_o of_o these_o exposition_n do_v the_o jesuit_n argugument_n conclude_v not_o from_o the_o first_o &_o the_o last_o as_o be_v apparent_a to_o all_o man_n neither_o yet_o from_o the_o second_o for_o although_o the_o bless_a saint_n attain_v the_o measure_n of_o angelical_a glory_n and_o fill_v up_o the_o place_n which_o the_o decline_a angel_n lose_v yet_o angel_n may_v have_v some_o power_n and_o action_n in_o respect_n of_o their_o present_a ministry_n to_o the_o church_n militant_a which_o be_v diverse_a and_o distinct_a from_o the_o power_n and_o action_n of_o glorify_a saint_n for_o if_o angel_n themselves_o although_o they_o be_v equal_a in_o essential_a beatitude_n yet_o they_o differ_v in_o power_n and_o action_n minoris_fw-la according_a to_o the_o tenet_n of_o the_o school_n 1._o then_o much_o more_o man_n and_o angel_n although_o they_o partake_v in_o the_o same_o obiective_n blessedness_n yet_o they_o may_v have_v different_a action_n and_o accidental_a perfection_n and_o consequent_o angel_n in_o regard_n of_o their_o office_n may_v be_v able_a to_o know_v and_o understand_v that_o which_o bless_a saint_n do_v not_o jesuit_fw-la neither_o can_v saint_n without_o knowledge_n of_o humane_a affair_n be_v perfect_o bless_v blessedness_n be_v a_o state_n wherein_o all_o just_a and_o reasonable_a desire_n of_o nature_n be_v satisfy_v with_o uttermost_a content_n and_o who_o can_v think_v that_o saint_n full_a tua_fw-la both_o of_o glory_n and_o charity_n do_v not_o earnest_o desire_v to_o know_v such_o thing_n as_o may_v concern_v their_o honour_n do_v upon_o earth_n and_o the_o state_n of_o their_o friend_n and_o lover_n live_v in_o danger_n to_o succour_v they_o by_o their_o intercession_n of_o who_o salvation_n they_o be_v
he_o deliver_v two_o thing_n first_o that_o christian_n honour_n martyr_n with_o the_o honour_n of_o love_n and_o society_n as_o holy_a man_n of_o god_n be_v honour_v in_o this_o life_n homines_fw-la but_o saint_n in_o this_o life_n be_v not_o worship_v with_o vow_n fasting_n and_o religious_a prayer_n second_o he_o distinguish_v between_o the_o solemnity_n or_o festival_n of_o martyr_n and_o the_o person_n of_o martyr_n upon_o the_o festival_n martyrum_fw-la of_o martyr_n religious_a service_n be_v perform_v to_o god_n the_o lord_n of_o martyr_n but_o not_o to_o the_o person_n of_o martyr_n s._n augustine_n affirm_v not_o this_o latter_a the_o total_a honour_n which_o the_o sacred_a scripture_n and_o after_o it_o s._n augustine_n require_v to_o be_v yield_v to_o holy_a saint_n martyr_n and_o angel_n respective_o may_v be_v reduce_v to_o four_o head_n first_o the_o honour_n of_o love_n pugnantes_fw-la and_o desire_v of_o society_n second_o recognition_n and_o praise_n of_o their_o virtue_n and_o excellency_n three_o imitation_n of_o their_o virtue_n and_o godly_a example_n four_o reverend_a comportment_n to_o angel_n when_o they_o appear_v and_o be_v present_a as_o god_n messenger_n but_o none_o of_o these_o action_n be_v the_o formal_a or_o elicitive_a action_n of_o religion_n therefore_o the_o honour_n of_o saint_n and_o angel_n according_a to_o propriety_n of_o speech_n be_v 〈◊〉_d religious_a worship_n now_o than_o i_o subsume_v no_o religious_a worship_n proper_o take_v be_v due_a to_o saint_n by_o the_o confession_n of_o learned_a papist_n deum_fw-la invocation_n of_o saint_n be_v religious_a worship_n proper_o take_v rom._n 10.14_o ergo_fw-la invocation_n be_v not_o due_a to_o saint_n jesuit_fw-la now_o that_o man_n may_v worship_v angel_n and_o saint_n in_o this_o sort_n with_o true_a affection_n of_o spirit_n even_o to_o the_o prostration_n of_o their_o body_n may_v be_v prove_v out_o of_o holy_a scripture_n suppose_v what_o be_v already_o show_v that_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d those_o thing_n which_o be_v behind_o or_o want_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d persoluenda_fw-la of_o the_o affliction_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o christ_n in_o my_o flesh_n 〈◊〉_d his_o body_n which_o be_v the_o church_n the_o first_o part_n of_o these_o word_n prove_v that_o s._n paul_n suffer_v for_o the_o collossian_o but_o because_o he_o may_v suffer_v for_o the_o confirmation_n of_o their_o faith_n or_o as_o a_o example_n of_o patience_n aliorum_fw-la or_o by_o way_n of_o persecution_n because_o he_o preach_v the_o gospel_n to_o they_o discipulos_fw-la and_o other_o church_n it_o can_v be_v conclude_v that_o he_o suffer_v to_o make_v satisfaction_n for_o their_o sin_n second_o the_o next_o word_n conclude_v not_o satisfaction_n for_o christ_n affliction_n and_o passion_n be_v of_o two_o kind_n some_o personal_a and_o in_o his_o own_o flesh_n some_o by_o sympathy_n and_o compassion_n in_o his_o member_n sustinerem_fw-la the_o first_o be_v 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our_o most_o gracious_a king_n shall_v speak_v or_o do_v any_o thing_n for_o antichrist_n against_o christ_n who_o hope_n and_o virtue_n and_o honour_n be_v all_o in_o christ._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o table_n of_o the_o principal_a matter_n contain_v in_o this_o book_n a_o accident_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n without_o substance_n fol._n 430_o 439_o act_n of_o the_o apost_n chap._n 2._o v._n 42._o 507_o adoration_n and_o veneration_n 208_o s._n ambrose_n receive_v the_o sacrament_n in_o one_o kind_n 503_o angel_n rejoice_v at_o a_o sinner_n repentance_n 515_o angel_n whether_o adore_v 327._o 525_o 527_o antecedent_n will_v of_o god_n 78_o apostolical_a church_n 64_o 98_o assurance_n of_o faith_n 165_o s._n augustine_n 21_o 68_o 122_o 132_o 200_o 219_o 273_o 296_o 323_o 443_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n 10_o 133_o 300_o b_o baptism_n 175_o 177_o beginning_n of_o error_n not_o always_o assigneable_a out_o of_o history_n 131_o a_o body_n in_o many_o place_n 180_o 182_o 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