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the_o philosophy_n as_o he_o term_v it_o or_o the_o wisdom_n of_o the_o woman_n of_o canaan_n she_o intreat_v not_o james_n say_v he_o she_o beseech_v not_o john_n neither_o do_v she_o come_v to_o peter_n but_o break_v through_o the_o whole_a company_n of_o they_o saying_n i_o have_v no_o need_n of_o a_o mediator_n but_o take_v repentance_n with_o i_o for_o a_o spoakes-man_n i_o come_v to_o the_o fountain_n itself_o for_o this_o cause_n do_v he_o descend_v for_o this_o cause_n do_v he_o take_v flesh_n that_o i_o may_v have_v the_o boldness_n to_o speak_v unto_o he_o i_o have_v no_o need_n of_o a_o mediator_n have_v thou_o mercy_n upon_o i_o hitherto_o s._n chrysostom_n six_o the_o
romanist_n repose_v such_o confidence_n in_o the_o intercession_n of_o the_o saint_n that_o they_o look_v to_o receive_v far_o great_a benefit_n by_o they_o then_o by_o their_o own_o prayer_n which_o conceit_n how_o distasteful_a it_o be_v unto_o the_o ancient_a doctor_n s._n chrysostom_n may_v be_v a_o sufficient_a witness_n who_o labour_v exceed_o to_o root_v out_o this_o erroneous_a opinion_n when_o it_o first_o begin_v to_o show_v itself_o in_o his_o time_n and_o therefore_o he_o be_v bold_a to_o affirm_v not_o only_o that_o 36._o we_o have_v no_o such_o need_n of_o other_o that_o we_o may_v entreat_v by_o they_o but_o also_o that_o god_n ibid._n then_o do_v most_o when_o we_o do_v not_o use_v the_o entreaty_n of_o other_o for_o as_o a_o kind_a friend_n say_v he_o then_o blame_v he_o we_o most_o as_o not_o dare_v to_o trust_v his_o love_n when_o we_o entreat_v other_o to_o pray_v unto_o he_o for_o we_o thus_o use_v we_o to_o do_v with_o those_o that_o seek_v to_o we_o then_o we_o 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crebró_n meditari_fw-la et_fw-la in_o regni_fw-la gloriâ_fw-la beatificari_fw-la his_o other_o 149._o psalm_n which_o be_v fraught_v with_o the_o same_o kind_n of_o stuff_n i_o pass_v over_o but_o bernardinus_fw-la de_fw-la senis_fw-la his_o boldness_n may_v not_o be_v forget_v who_o think_v that_o 11._o god_n will_v give_v he_o leave_v to_o maintain_v that_o the_o virgin_n marie_n do_v more_o unto_o he_o or_o at_o least_o as_o much_o as_o he_o himself_o do_v unto_o all_o mankind_n and_o that_o we_o may_v say_v for_o our_o comfort_n forsooth_o that_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o bless_a virgin_n who_o god_n himself_o do_v make_v notwithstanding_o god_n after_o a_o sort_n be_v more_o bind_v unto_o we_o than_o we_o be_v unto_o he_o with_o which_o absurd_a and_o wretched_a speculation_n bernardinus_fw-la de_fw-fr busti_n after_o he_o be_v so_o well_o please_v that_o he_o dare_v to_o revive_v again_o this_o most_o odious_a comparison_n and_o propose_v it_o a_o fresh_a in_o this_o saucy_a 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