Selected quad for the lemma: saint_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
saint_n	church_n	day_n	festival_n	1,263	5	11.0355	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A11627	The course of conformitie as it hath proceeded, is concluded, should be refused.	Scott, William, ca. 1566-1642.; Calderwood, David, 1575-1650, attributed name.; Melville, James, 1556-1614, attributed name.	1622 (1622)	STC 21874; ESTC S120840	184,517	202

voluntate legislatoris Yet the distinction of the bounds belonging to everie synagogue vvas left to the power of the kirk of the Iewes no lesse then the distinction of Parishes now to the Christian kirke and all the distinct office-bearers are prescribed now as well as then As unlawfull now to bring in a new kinde of ministerie into the kirke as it vvas at that time and will prove in the end to be no better then strange fire 2. For places there cannot be a common place now for solemne vvorship for either there behoved to be one for the vvhole Christian vvorld vvhich no man vvill affirme except a Roman Catholick or else one in every nation vvhich vvere the erecting of a proper religion in everie kingdome and a making of everie countrey a Canaan by it selfe and not a part of the kirk vniversall having communion with all the Saints But as the Kirk now hath a place of meeting for every congregation so had the Iewish kirk the like power and libertie in building their synagogues and no greater holines in the one place then in the other 3. For times in vindicating his festivall dayes from the blame of Iudaisme he denieth that the kirk hath power to make dayes like the Iewish dayes in appropriating a vvorship to them vvhich is not lawfull to performe another day but seemeth to slip in two things 1. that hee giveth power to the kirke to make dayes as holy as that day vvhich is more holy then the Iewish dayes putting no difference of holinesse betwixt the Sabboth and the dayes appointed by the kirk but maketh all the difference to be divine institution As D. Downame precept 4. addeth to the vveekly Sabboths all other Sabboths lawfully ordained by the kirk All which are to bee consecrated sayth hee as Sabboths to the Lord. And for example of Sabboths lawfully ordained he bringeth the feasts of Christs Nativitie Resurrection c. giving power to the kirk to make Sabboths like Gods Sabboths 2. He slippeth in his appropriations of the two sorts of it he striveth to remoue the one that is the appropriation of the worship to the day albeit he knoweth that it would not be counted lawfull to solemnize the feast of the Nativitie Resurrection c. upon other dayes the solemne remembrance of these benefites being the proper vvorship of the dayes and not the instruction of the people in the grounds of the Catechisme The solemne vvorship of the Passouer Pentecost and Tabernacles was appropriated to the owne times yet it vvas lawfull to instruct the people in the knowledge of the benefites at other times The other appropriation of the day to the vvorship he passeth vvith silence as that it made not a Iudaicall difference of dayes When I say it is not lawfull to exercise that vvorship another day and to exercise another vvorship that day I make difference of dayes both wayes As I doe of meates vvhen I say out of a religious distinction of meats I will eat any meat except that and no other meat but that Had it beene the Lords will that his people should haue kept anniversarie and ordinarie feasts seeing they were no lesse positiue might haue been as easily determined as the weekly Sabboths he had not passed them vvithout determination Finally all that he hath set down concerning order is no more determined in the kirk of the Iewes then in the Christian kirk as vvherat and how the Priest or Levit should begin proceed close Psalmes praying reading preaching what petition to bee proponed circumcision in stead of baptisme the passover in place of the communion marriage and all things in doctrine discipline and divine service What hath the Doctor meaned when he tooke upon him the demonstration of Christian libertie in this poynt except he could haue brought better instances There were many poynts of service as sacrifices vvashings anniversarie dayes c. vvhich we haue not but the determination of such as we haue is as particular as theirs except vvherein the nationall circumstances make impediment They had multitude of observations with direction wee haue the benifit of distinct direction without the burthen of multitude of observations Archip. If he had vvell paralelled the Iewish and Christian kirk in the particulars he had not set down that for a priviledge and libertie of the Christian kirk vvhich is so manifestly common to the kirk of the old testament What think ye of the extent of the power of the kirk as he hath considered it Epaph. Some things are essentiall some things vniversall in time and place both are determined The individuall circumstances of particular times places and personall conditions pro re nata are left to the kirk even as in policie oeconomie c. some poynts must be left because they either cannot or need not be determined In his discourse upon this poynt he proveth vvorthy of his wages because in the enumeration of ceremonies he forgets the Surplice Crosse left he should crosse his paterne in any thing and to giue proofe of his purpose of more conformitie Albeit he cannot deny but the crosse surplice c. vvhich he dare not remember are new rites sensible and as dangerous additions and no lesse positiue in the vvorship of God then salt oyle spittle holy warter lights God giue you and all the ministers of the Kirk of Scotland the spirit of discretion vvhen ye set your selues down at the feet of your generall Preceptor and preceptorie Dictator to learn rules of obedience in matters indifferent If obedience be due to the kirke because therby confusion scandall and schisme is eschued then vvhere all these evills through obedience do daily encrease obedience to the kirk is disobedience to God And vvhether it be lawfull to enquire and to haue respect to scandall after that the Canon is concluded I referre you to that vvhich I sayd before of scandall Arch. All that you can say against his preface the book it self wil seem as smal in his phantasie as the Rhapsodie of Perth assembly against which he his fellow-labourers framed this answer Epaph. Not the phantasie of man but the veritie of God is to be respected of us He calleth that treatise a Rhapsodie for what cause I know not except that the author delighteth not after his fashion to Mercurialize and borroweth help of the Ancients of the Scholastickes and modern Divines Who loveth not the exquisite Bee-work gathered out of so great diversitie of flowers more then the spiders webb twisted out of her own bowells vvhich striveth for nothing but to catch the blind and vveak flies when she hath eviscerate herselfe all the yeare long Archip. Will ye speak nothing of the particulars contained in the book it selfe Epaph. Ye haue driven me further already then I intended at the first Particular polemicks are to be referred to their own lists yet I could shew you by a claw or two that ye need not fear the Lyon In the