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A50212 The judgment of several eminent divines of the congregational vvay concerning a pastors power occasionally to exert ministerial acts in another church besides that which is his own particular flock. Mather, Increase, 1639-1723. 1692 (1692) Wing M1223; ESTC R41439 6,067 16

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