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A47617 An answer to the Bishop of Condom's book entituled, An exposition of the doctrin of the Caholick Church, upon matters of coutroversie [sic]. Written originally in French. La Bastide, Marc-Antoine de, ca. 1624-1704, attributed name. 1676 (1676) Wing L100; ESTC R221701 162,768 460

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the_o worship_v of_o saint_n but_o also_o several_a other_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v not_o at_o all_o to_o be_v find_v in_o the_o write_n of_o the_o three_o first_o age_n though_o it_o be_v know_v that_o the_o bishop_n of_o condom_n be_v not_o the_o only_a person_n of_o his_o communion_n that_o have_v not_o be_v able_a to_o restrain_v himself_o from_o make_v this_o confession_n and_o he_o be_v sensible_a also_o without_o doubt_n that_o the_o reason_n that_o he_o will_v give_v for_o this_o silence_n be_v in_o effect_n but_o a_o weak_a colour_n that_o be_v that_o the_o church_n be_v more_o employ_v in_o suffer_v than_o in_o writing_n because_o that_o the_o suffering_n of_o the_o church_n in_o those_o first_o age_n do_v not_o at_o all_o hinder_a but_o that_o beside_o the_o sacred_a write_n of_o evangelist_n and_o apostle_n which_o be_v infinite_o above_o the_o write_n of_o all_o other_o age_n we_o have_v also_o sufficient_a large_a volume_n of_o many_o great_a person_n of_o the_o three_o first_o century_n as_o of_o justin_n martyr_n etc._n s._n iren_n clement_n priest_n of_o alexandria_n etc._n etc._n of_o tertullian_n st._n cyprian_n of_o origen_n and_o many_o other_o before_o and_o after_o they_o for_o although_o tertullian_n and_o origen_n hold_v some_o erroneous_a opinion_n that_o hinder_v not_o but_o that_o one_o or_o the_o other_o may_v have_v make_v mention_n of_o the_o worship_n of_o saint_n if_o it_o be_v true_a that_o they_o have_v see_v it_o practise_v in_o their_o day_n 4._o in_o the_o first_o have_v lay_v down_o the_o several_a mean_n whereby_o it_o can_v be_v suppose_v that_o the_o saint_n do_v hear_v our_o prayer_n whether_o it_o be_v by_o the_o ministry_n of_o angel_n or_o whether_o that_o god_n himself_o make_v they_o know_v our_o desire_n by_o a_o particular_a revelation_n or_o that_o he_o discover_v unto_o they_o this_o secret_a in_o his_o infinite_a essence_n he_o add_v or_o whether_o that_o by_o any_o other_o way_n more_o impenetrable_a and_o yet_o more_o unknown_a that_o god_n make_v we_o receive_v the_o fruit_n of_o those_o prayer_n that_o we_o address_v unto_o those_o bless_a soul_n which_o do_v import_n in_o that_o place_n that_o whether_o the_o saint_n do_v hear_v our_o prayer_n or_o whether_o they_o hear_v they_o not_o god_n do_v not_o fail_v to_o recompense_v the_o devotion_n that_o man_n have_v for_o the_o saint_n audiant_fw-la annot_n elucid_n quaest_n 228_o in_o epist_n ad_fw-la rom_n sanctos_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la interpellare_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la aliud_fw-la quam_fw-la pro_fw-la meritis_fw-la eorum_fw-la bonos_fw-es affectus_fw-la quos_fw-la habemus_fw-la in_o eos_fw-la propter_fw-la deum_fw-la remunerare_fw-la &_o ideo_fw-la nihil_fw-la interest_n sive_fw-la nos_fw-la audiant_fw-la sive_fw-la non_fw-la audiant_fw-la and_o this_o be_v also_o the_o doctrine_n of_o hugh_n of_o st._n
victor_n a_o author_n of_o the_o twelve_o century_n in_o the_o last_o the_o bishop_n of_o condom_n do_v expunge_v this_o opinion_n which_o do_v not_o only_o show_v too_o much_o uncertainty_n touch_v the_o ground_n of_o such_o a_o religious_a worship_n but_o a_o kind_n of_o incompatibility_n to_o address_v prayer_n to_o saint_n if_o it_o may_v be_v suppose_v that_o those_o prayer_n be_v not_o at_o all_o understand_v 5._o in_o the_o first_o edition_n speak_v of_o image_n he_o drop_v these_o word_n that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v not_o so_o much_o honour_v the_o image_n of_o a_o apostle_n or_o martyr_n as_o she_o do_v honour_v the_o apostle_n or_o martyr_n in_o presence_n of_o the_o image_n this_o import_v that_o proper_o there_o be_v no_o honour_n render_v unto_o the_o image_n itself_o or_o that_o there_o be_v but_o very_o little_o give_v unto_o it_o as_o they_o usual_o tell_v we_o in_o common_a discourse_n but_o this_o do_v not_o speakfull_a enough_o according_a to_o the_o roman_a pontifical_a and_o according_a to_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n and_o much_o less_o according_a to_o the_o general_a practice_n of_o the_o romish_a church_n therefore_o it_o be_v that_o in_o the_o second_o edition_n the_o bishop_n of_o condom_n express_v himself_o more_o strong_o when_o we_o do_v honour_v the_o image_n of_o a_o apostle_n or_o martyr_n 32._o page_n 32._o our_o intention_n be_v not_o so_o much_o to_o honour_v the_o image_n as_o to_o honour_v the_o apostle_n or_o martyr_n in_o presence_n of_o the_o image_n 6._o in_o the_o first_o edition_n conclude_v the_o article_n of_o the_o worship_n of_o saint_n 33._o page_n 33._o there_o be_v nothing_o say_v he_o more_o unjust_a than_o to_o say_v that_o the_o church_n do_v make_v all_o devotion_n to_o consist_v in_o worship_v saint_n because_o on_o the_o contrary_n she_o do_v not_o impose_v any_o obligation_n on_o particular_a person_n to_o apply_v themselves_o to_o that_o practice_n he_o add_v we_o have_v already_o 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which_o have_v offer_v himself_o upon_o the_o cross_n and_o in_o stead_n of_o the_o passeover_n and_o circumcision_n the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n and_o the_o lord_n supper_n this_o be_v proper_o and_o only_o the_o true_a christian_a religion_n why_o then_o shall_v they_o adjoin_v hereto_o the_o worship_n of_o image_n which_o be_v nothing_o else_o but_o a_o imitation_n of_o pagan_n and_o which_o lay_v a_o insuperable_a obstacle_n to_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o of_o the_o turk_n who_o be_v half_a jew_n image_n ss_z council_n trid._n sess_n 25._o the_o invoc_n ss_z say_v they_o do_v serve_v to_o instruct_v the_o people_n in_o the_o mystery_n of_o religion_n and_o to_o maintain_v devotion_n and_o piety_n but_o in_o the_o first_o place_n as_o to_o instruction_n if_o they_o will_v own_v the_o truth_n the_o people_n be_v no_o where_n worse_o instruct_v in_o the_o true_a mystery_n of_o salvation_n than_o in_o those_o place_n where_o the_o worship_n of_o image_n be_v most_o 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that_o we_o be_v so_o far_o from_o abolish_n the_o episcopal_a government_n which_o be_v in_o force_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n as_o the_o bishop_n of_o condom_n impute_v to_o we_o that_o our_o church_n maintain_v as_o they_o do_v a_o holy_a union_n betwixt_o themselves_o live_v in_o a_o great_a deal_n of_o simplicity_n under_o the_o governance_n of_o our_o pastor_n and_o synod_n be_v a_o true_a image_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n of_o jerusalem_n of_o corinth_n of_o ephesus_n of_o galatia_n of_o the_o colossian_n of_o the_o thessalonian_o and_o of_o rome_n itself_o all_o found_v by_o the_o apostle_n affect_v not_o at_o all_o any_o superiority_n one_o over_o the_o other_o but_o all_o be_v equal_a among_o themselves_o unite_v by_o the_o bond_n of_o the_o same_o faith_n and_o of_o the_o same_o charity_n under_o the_o governance_n of_o the_o same_o apostle_n and_o under_o one_o sole_a spiritual_a head_n jesus_n christ_n the_o word_n bishop_n as_o it_o be_v know_v signify_v only_o a_o overseer_n and_o no_o more_o than_o that_o of_o a_o pastor_n or_o minister_n the_o apostle_n be_v indifferent_o term_v one_o and_o the_o other_o it_o be_v know_v that_o in_o germany_n and_o england_n the_o name_n of_o bishop_n be_v retain_v and_o a_o kind_n of_o hierarchy_n which_o we_o do_v not_o disapprove_v of_o be_v moderate_a as_o it_o be_v and_o in_o fine_a god_n be_v our_o witness_n that_o we_o love_v peace_n and_o union_n as_o the_o bishop_n of_o condom_n de-fsires_a but_o a_o true_a union_n of_o heart_n and_o judgement_n with_o knowledge_n and_o as_o god_n himself_o have_v command_v that_o we_o shall_v love_v peace_n with_o truth_n finis_fw-la a_o table_n of_o the_o chief_a point_n the_o first_o part_n i._o the_o design_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o condom_n treatise_n page_n 50._o ii_o the_o bishop_n of_o condom_n be_v first_o general_a proposition_n that_o those_o of_o the_o pretend_a reform_a religion_n acknowledge_v that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v embrace_v all_o the_o fundamental_a point_n of_o christian_a religion_n page_n 58._o iii_o the_o bishop_n of_o condom_n second_o general_a proposition_n that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v teach_v that_o religious_a worship_n be_v terminate_v on_o god_n only_o pag._n 69._o second_o part_n iv_o of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n pag._n 67._o v._o of_o image_n and_o relic_n pag._n 109._o third_z part_n vi_o of_o justification_n pag._n 134._o vii_o of_o the_o merit_n of_o work_v pag._n 153._o viii_o of_o satisfaction_n purgatory_n and_o indulgence_n pag._n 156._o four_o part_n ix_o of_o the_o sacrament_n pag._n 171._o baptism_n pag._n 179._o confirmation_n pag._n 191._o pennance_n and_o sacramental_a confession_n pag._n 195._o extreme_a unction_n pag._n 213._o marriage_n pag._n 217._o order_n pag._n 219._o five_o part_n x._o of_o the_o eucharist_n the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n touch_v the_o real_a presence_n of_o the_o body_n of_o jesus_n christ_n in_o the_o eucharist_n and_o the_o manner_n in_o which_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n understand_v these_o word_n this_o be_v my_o body_n pag._n 221_o xi_o a_o explication_n of_o these_o word_n do_v this_o in_o remembrance_n of_o i_o pa._n 249._o xii_o the_o exposition_n which_o the_o bishop_n of_o condom_n make_v of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o those_o of_o the_o reform_a religion_n upon_o the_o reality_n pag._n 261._o xiii_o of_o transubstantiation_n of_o adoration_n and_o in_o what_o sense_n it_o be_v that_o the_o bishop_n of_o condom_n say_v that_o the_o eucharist_n be_v a_o sign_n pag._n 308._o fourteen_o of_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n p._n 324._o xv._o of_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o hebrew_n pag._n 327._o xvi_o the_o bishop_n of_o condom_n reflection_n upon_o the_o precedent_a doctrine_n pa._n 332._o xvii_o the_o communion_n under_o both_o kind_n pa._n 55._o sixth_z part_n xviii_o of_o tradition_n or_o the_o word_n write_v and_o the_o word_n unwritten_a pag_n 355._o xix_o of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n pag._n 370_o xx._n the_o judgement_n of_o those_o of_o the_o p._n r._n rel._n upon_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n pag._n 389_o xxi_o of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o holy_a chair_n and_o of_o episcopacy_n pa._n 426._o finis_fw-la a_o note_n on_o line_n 17._o pag_n 38._o because_o the_o roman_a creed_n do_v not_o use_v genitum_fw-la twice_o but_o unigenitum_fw-la &_o natum_fw-la i_o do_v not_o think_v fit_a to_o render_v genitum_fw-la and_o natum_fw-la b●th_v by_o one_o english_a word_n nor_o yet_o to_o render_v ex_fw-la patre_fw-la natum_fw-la bear_v of_o the_o father_n for_o we_o say_v in_o the_o apostle_n creed_n bear_v of_o the_o virgin_n mary_n nor_o proceed_v from_o the_o father_n that_o be_v say_v proper_o of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n i_o therefore_o have_v say_v bring_v forth_o against_o which_o if_o any_o take_v exception_n i_o declare_v let_v the_o roman_a church_n mean_v what_o she_o will_v by_o natum_fw-la i_o mean_v the_o same_o by_o bring_v forth_o for_o i_o mean_v to_o express_v her_o latin_a word_n by_o english_a once_o as_o strict_o answer_v as_o i_o can_v indeed_o in_o so_o great_a a_o mystery_n all_o language_n must_v needs_o be_v improper_a errata_fw-la insigniora_fw-la pag_n 11._o l_o 23._o deal_n that_o p._n 25._o l._n 12._o it_o league_n they_o p._n 32._o l._n 11._o d._n that_o p._n 89._o l._n 5._o leg_n that_o it_o be_v p._n 132._o l._n penult_n fasten_v lege_fw-la soften_v p._n 138._o l._n 28._o leg_n the_o error_n p_o 157._o l._n 11._o for_o leg_n before_o p._n 158._o l_o 21._o del_o not_o p_o 182._o l._n ult_n lege_fw-la in_o which_o p._n 274._o l_o 4._o leg_n this_o death_n p_o 279._o l_o 20._o and_o it_o be_v also_o leg_n but_o it_o be_v
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