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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A65261	Akolouthos, or, A second faire warning to take heed of the Scotish discipline in vindication of the first (which the Rt. Reverend Father in God, the Ld. Bishop of London Derrie published a. 1649) against a schismatical & seditious reviewer, R.B.G., one of the bold commissioners from the rebellious kirke in Scotland ... / by Ri. Watson ...	Watson, Richard, 1612-1685.; Creighton, Robert, 1593-1672.	1651 (1651)	Wing W1084; ESTC R13489	252,755	272

hearts of the most understanding shall if they will be satisfied withall moral and fiducial assurance to have that Religion praeserved which shall by reason and authoritie aswell divine as humane in every particular justifie it selfe against all right or left handed sects and factions guiltie of superstition or profanesse those lawes observed which appeare now to have constituted the most indifferent innocuous government in the world Whereas if the conscience of the Court be deluded once into Presbyters hands it will need none of our angrie wishes to be made sensible of the change when to be sure it must take religion like a desperate patient from a sullen physician in doses of Covenants and propositions not to be disputed and like a bedlam have lawes given it with a whip The Bishop drawing toward the end of his discourse puts all the controversie upon trial by that quaestion which if once categoricallie answered would spare much oyle and inke for the future giving the Magistrate to know that it is not the pen but his sword whereby this difference must be decided But these spiders of Presbyterie will aswell be spinning webs as spitting poyson though so thin as can't conceale the uglie shape of their soules nor that bay which contines the intrinsecal venome of their cause Though had they the reputation of no better Artists then Master Baylie the Pallas of Praelacie need not enter on the encounter but that of Magistracie might in scorne more then envie teare such wicked worke in peices before their face and in justice mixed with some litle mercie to beget repentance execute Arachne's condemnation in the fable upon the authours Of the multitude of untruths which the Reviewer here recriminates upon the Bishop that we may be one take a judgement of the rest the want of charitie is very unjustlie made the first which he should have done well to have supplied in himselfe and not so senselesselie to intimate a non realitic of religion in those reverend Fathers who beside the visibilitie in their practice heretofore and of their Christian patience in being Martyrs and Confessours for it of late ever made a profession of that fayth which was consonant to Scripture as interpreted in the primitive purest times of Holie Church Whereas the censure his Lordship makes of the Presbyterian phantasme is principallie because in their very covenant appeares no reformation intended but according to the word of God without mentioning any rule or authoritie for the interpretation of that word beside their owne humours conceits And the example of the best Reformed Churches which best must be that which seemes so unto them whether the rest yeild to it as such or no if indeed they meane any as it may be wel thought they doe not but themselves who are so superciliouslie singular from them all as they disdaine to heare of a inclioration to be had from their example and such Tyrants over us as they give us no other law nor reason but their pleasure for the reformation they impose speaking to us in the language of the Pelagians to the Catholikes Nobis authoribus nobis principibus nobis expositoribus damnate quae tenebatis tenete quae damnabatis reijcit●… antiquam fidem paterna instituta Majorum deposita recipite quaenam ill●… tandem Horreo decere sunt enim ●…m superba ut mihi non modo adfirmari sed ne refell quidem sine aliquo piaculo posse videantur The second untruth he sayth is That Covenanters beare no allegeance to the King but onelie in order to Religion which notwithstanding is the particular limitation in the Covenant and when all was granted them but a particle of that by Charles I. they denied to returne to their allegeance without it And the Crowne of his successour our gracious Soveraigne still hangs out of his reach by that thred which their proclamation tells him in effect shall for ever keep it off till he consent To the third I replie That the Rebell Parliaments verbal denial makes the Bishop speake uo untruth who will tell them as the King himselfe did That his person was in vaine excepted by a parenthesi●… of words when so many hands were armed against him with swords the Canon knew no respect of persons The praetenses of a Popish Praelatical and malignant faction are wip'd away by His Majestie in that chapter to which I require a Scotich replie The fourth is grounded upon a very false supposition which sometimes they will not grant us nor s●…ould we though too many have out of mistake too often grant it them viz. That saving Bishops and ceremonies the religion of Scotizing Presbyterians and Catholike English Christians is the same whereas there is neare if not fullie fundamental difference in the acception of several articles in our Creed so that though we say the same words we can not trulie be sayd to be of the same beleife in these at least Christs descent into hell The Holie Catholike Church The communion of Saints The forgivenesse of s●…nnes Besides several other accessorie tenets wherein we thinke they detract from the mercie if not the justice of God reveled in Christ and the ordinarie use of his graces restored by our redemption without respect of persons unto men But if here for their pleasure they will have the true Church counterfeit Kirke be the same otherwise then as they are differenced by the corruptions of Bishops and ceremonies why tried they not the experiment of pu●…ging these with the alteration of the rubrike and their persons without change of the Liturgie for a Directorie and the abolition of their office As their great Pope Henderson once confessed in the Earle of Arundel's tent when General in the North. That Bishops might have been tolerated in Scotland if their persons had been such as they ought And the Reviewer himselfe when he wondred why the Doctours of Aberdene would not subscribe the covenant being asked by a friend of his if he thought Episcopacie and the articles of Perth unlawfull made this answer He never thought nor ever would thinke them so Whence may be conjectur'd their modest meaning to be this That had the Episcopate in Scotland been seasonablie entailed to their tribe so farre as they could have hindred what they pretie well promoted their covenanting tables at Edenburgh had been taken downe and no armie raised to purg●… M●…lignants out of the Kirke 5. The Reviewer sayth their ●…rmes were t●…ken for defense of just liberties whereof religion was but one But then it wa●… one and th●…t the 〈◊〉 or e●…e when ●…hey had the Militia 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to defend 〈◊〉 why stood ●…hey upon that which is an argument that merelie for that w●…re there nothing else in controversie they might aswell take as ke●…pe up armes But what shuffling was in this businesse hath been discovered by another That about liberties M●…ster Digges 〈◊〉 learned●…ie confute●… N●…r will the Review●… and all

objectts their interposing in a case of debt between J. T. and P. T determined by the Lords of Session Their discharging Munday mercates against leters Patents under the Great Seale professeth that like infinite instances might be produced and one more of them he brings with the several circumstances about a decree and judgement obtined by Master Iohn Grahum In general your judicial Vsurpations are censur'd by the Authour of Episcopacie and Presbyterie considered Whereof he brings no particulars because he sayth nobodie can be ignorant that hath look'd into the knowen stories of this last age Somewhat to this purpose is in him that writ the Trojan Horse ... unbowelled K. Iames's Declaration against you in the case of the Aberdene Ministers is in print Beside many other of this nature that I have not seen or doe not thinke on Where Master Baylie hath slept out all this noyse J can not guesse if above ground So that a lasse the Curtisan Bishops may passe away unquaestion'd with a few innocent prohibitions in their pockets when the Traverse is draw'n and the Palliard Presbyters discovered in multitudes at the businesse heaping up such loades of repeales and protestations as crush all iniquitie into scandal make Civile Courts Parliaments Councel and King responsable for their sentences to the Synods The next injurie against Masters and Mistresses of families as it stands in your discipline not as you subtilie yet vainlie advantage it is criminal at least so farre as it is a transgression of Saint Pauls rule which requires all things to be done euschemonoos cata taxin decentlie and in order 1. Cor. 14. 50. Whereas for them to be brought to such a publike account who at all other times without personal exception are constituted instructours of their children and servants is not eushemonoot it caries litle decencie with it it too much discountenanceth their authoritie it levels their natural and politike Dominion for the time nor have those different lines as they are draw'n in your Discipline such a just symmetrie as to produce an handsome feature of one person It is not cata taxin take it in what sense you will no man will say there is a due order observed nor any such praescription in Christs Holy Catholike Church The same Apostle that gave particular directions in the case made no canon for this An antecedent examination he appointed but the Ancients interpret it more of the will and affection then the understanding mind Or if he meant it of both he made every man judge of himselfe as you doe when he is praesent at the ministration of baptisme that had before renderd a reason of his fayth to the Church neither Presbyter and inquisitour of course nor parishoner a witnesse of his unworthinesse and ignorance Ourh heteros ton hetecon ... all autos heauton sayth Oecumenius which put Cajetan upon the thought that confession was not at this time required for which he is taken up by Catharinus And Chrysostom referres us to a text in St. Pauls second epistle which tells us what discoverie may put the examination to an end Examine your selves whether ye be in the fayth Omnem prolationem quaerendi inveniendi credendo fi●…isti hunc tibi modum statuit fructus ipse quaerendi is intended I beleeve as a glosse upon it by Tertullian So that the knowledge how to pray was no praerequisite of St. Pauls Nor can we heare from him that the ignorance of other your disciplinarian articles exclude a man more from the Sacrament of the Lords supper then from the communion of Saints Christianitie he professeth in his Creed Beside 't is easie to conceive what discouragement it brings upon such good Christians as hunger and thirst after this spiritual nourishment of their soules and how much it derogates from that reverence Antiquitie render'd to this Sacrament and the high degree of necessitie they held often to participate hereof by such clauses as this All Ministers must be admonished to be more carefull to instruct the ignorant then readie to serve their appetite and to use more sharpe examination then indulgence in admitting c. Which hath a different sound from the earnest crie of the Euangelical Prophet Isai 55. 1. and the free invitation made by the High Priest of our profession in the Gospell S. Luk. ●…4 you accounting profanelie the losse hereof no more then the misse of a meale and the disappointment no other then depriving an hungrie appetite of a diner Our Fathers of old were otherwise minded and excommunicated those that were peevishlie averse not those that being engag'd in no penance humblie desir'd the benefit hereof Apostrephomenous tea metalephin tes cucharistias cata fina ataxian toutous apobletons ginesthaites ecclesias was part of a canon at the Councel of Antioch A. 341. I could adde That you declare not what may passe among you in the Master and Mistresses answers for the summe of the law what for the knowledge wherein their righteousnesse stands without which you say they ought not to be admitted So that the sharpnesse of your examen and acceptance of their answer being arbitrarie much roome is left for private spleen antipathie and passion no justifiable causes of separation from this communitie of Christians and therefore made the ground of enquirie and cognizance in every halfe yeares Synod by the Nicene Father that such partialitie might not be tolerated in the Bishops But whereas you excommunicate the parent and Masters for negligence when their children and servants are suffered to continue in wilfull ignorance Why not aswell the God Fathers and Pastours whose subsidiarie care should not onelie be restaurative but praeventive Why not such aged women as are not teachers of good things That the yong women be sober love their husbands and children c. Tit. 2 3 Why not all those in whom the word of Christ should dwell richlie in all wisdome and they teach and admonish one another Col. 3. 16. Which being a like duties of the Text alike require your inspection nor doth i●… appeare any more that you are left to a libertie of discrimination in your censure then that for any of these defaults you may exercise it at all Your familie visitations if sincerelie intended for the inspection of maners and conversations is commendable if done with the spirit of discretion moderation meeknesse When this was practiz'd by the most conscientious Priests of the Episcopal partie your knowledge whereof to denie by oath would looke litle beter then perjurie it was calumniated by many of your brood for gadding and gossiping defam'd by some for more sinfull conversing And when the generalitie of them the Episcopal Clergie remitted the frequencie of preaching the studie for which they found inconsistent with this more necessarie more beneficial catechizing the people it was nicknam'd suppressing the word And when at such times as the sacramental solemnities they entred into any private spiritual