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A57693 Catholick charitie complaining and maintaining, that Rome is uncharitable to sundry eminent parts of the Catholick Church, and especially to Protestants, and is therefore Uncatholick : and so, a Romish book, called Charitie mistaken, though undertaken by a second, is it selfe a mistaking / by F. Rous. Rous, Francis, 1579-1659. 1641 (1641) Wing R2017; ESTC R14076 205,332 412

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