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A01712	A catechisme conteining the summe of Christian religion, giuing a most excellent light to all those that seek to enter the path-way to saluation: Newlie set foorth by G.G. Preacher of Gods word at Malden in Essex	Gifford, George, d. 1620.	1583 (1583)	STC 11848; ESTC S114965	69,171	182

with the spyrit were also burthened with infirmities and sinnes A. I coulde shewe that at large by many examples but one testimonie of the Apostle is sufficient where he saieth to the godlye that the fleshe lusteth against the spirite and the spirite against the fleshe so that yee cannot doe the thinges whiche yee would x. Gala. 5.17 Q. What followeth next A. The fourth parte of the Articles of our faith yet remaineth the holy Catholike Church the Communion of Saints c. Q. What is it which yee call the Church A. The whole company of those whō God hath chosen vnto life euerlasting Q. Wherfore doe yee call it the holy Church A. Beecause euery member of it is holy being sanctified by the holy Ghost for whosoeuer hath not the spirite of Christe is none of Christs y. Rom. 8.9 Q. Doe yee affyrme that such men as be vngodly and wicked be not of the Church A. Whosoeuer they be which holde that although men liue an vnholye and an vncleane life yet they be Christians and of the Church they denye this article in this poynt that wee beleeue the Church is holye For if a couetous man a drunkard and an adulterer or one that liueth in any such vice shal affirme that he is of the church thē he must say that he beleeueth the vnholy church Q. In what respect do yee call the Church Catholike A. In that it is vniuersall for Catholike is that whiche goeth through out the hole Q. Hath it respect vnto time or place A. It respecteth both for the Churche hath beene alwaye in the woorlde from the beginning and shal be to end and in all places of the world while it pleaseth God to call any Q. Then that is not the Catholike Church which is but in some countries and at some time A. It is but a company of Heretikes and Schismatikes how many soeuer they be or how long soeuer they continue For those whiche bee of the Catholike Church are suche as are coupled vnto that Mother Church which hath beene from the beeginning Q. What say yee to the Church of Rome which doth chalenge this title to bee called the Catholike Church A. They doe falsly vsurpe the name both beecause theyr fayth is newe and such as Moses and the Prophetes neuer did knowe For they cannot shewe that the holye Patriarches Abraham and the reste did beleeue as they doe They teache doctrine quite contrary to Christ and his Apostles and also because many nations of the world where the Ghospell hath bin taught haue neuer acknowledged their Pope nor obeyed their doctrine Therfore it doth follow that seeing they be thus departed from the true Church they be but a swarm of waspes and a rout of Heretikes Q. By what reasons can ye shewe that wee bee of the true Catholyque Church For they call vs Heretiques A. Wee hold that doctrine and faith which is moste auncient and olde taught by Moses and the Prophetes and also by the Apostles we beleeue it in euery poynt and none other and therfore being ioyned with them in the vnitie of fayth we be also of the same body that they be and therefore of the Catholike Church Q. Yee saye that the Church is Catholike beecause it hath beene at all tymes in the woorlde although at some time in small number as in the dayes of Noah then it followeth that those bee not of the Catholike Churche of whom it may be sayde that there was a tyme when theyr Churche was not in the world A. That is out of controuersie that there hath neuer beene so much as one day in the which the true Church hath not beene in the world although at many times in very small number Q. The Papistes doe demaunde where our Churche was an hundred yeeres a-gone and so for the space of fiue or sixe hundred yeeres before A. At suche time as the Man of sinne was exalted and did sitte in the Temple of God z 2. The. 2.3 and all kinredes and people and tongues did wonder and worship the beast a. Reue. 13.8 then the woman persecuted by the Dragon which is the Church was driuen into the wildernesse and was secrete but yet not altogether destroyed For the remnaunt of her seede which had the testimonie of Iesus were persecuted b. Reuel 12. This therefore I answere that our Church which is the true Catholike Church did lye as it were buryed and hidde in the Papacy euen as a fewe wheate Corns in a great heape of Chaffe Yet some of them did euer appeare and were persecuted by the Beast and the Dragon Q. What proofe haue ye of the word to confirme al this A. Euen those places which I haue already recited Antichriste should sit in the Temple of GOD and there beare suche rule that he should boast himself to be God by taking that power and authoritie which doth belong onely to God yet it remaineth stil the temple of God which could not bee vnlesse the Church were there still Q. Yea but you must shew that the Catholike Church shoulde at anye tyme be without a visible gouernment A. The place cited doth most playnelye prooue it for the woman driuen into the desarte and yet her seede remaininge doeth shewe that the outwarde face of the Churche was gone while the glorious trimme whoore was gotte into her place And yet shee coulde not bee destroyed for the remnaunt of her seede coulde neuer bee rooted out Q. Howe doe yee vnderstande the next woordes the Communion of Saintes A. This clause is added as a declaratiō of the other in this wise I beleeue there is an holy Catholike Church which is the Communion of Saints Q. In what sense is the Church called a Communion A. As there is one head Iesus Christ so are al the faithful knit together by one spirite and made one body in him This is the cause that there is such a Communion and fellowshippe amonge them one with an other as there is betweene the members of the natural body Q. What is the effecte of this Communion or fellowship A. The entire loue and sincere affection which they beare one towardes an other euen as the members of the same body And out of this also doth spring the making common of all good thinges which they haue and the care to defend each other For looke what good thing any member of the bodye hath it doth willingly imploy it to the benefit of all the rest and the loue is suche that euery member doth cheerfully apply it self to relieue the rest and no one of them doth hurt or seeeke to destroy an other Euen so is it in this Communion of Saintes which are al the members of one body c. Cor. 12.12 14. Q. Do ye meane that no one doth possesse any thing by himselfe but the possession in commune when yee saye they make all good thinges common among them A. That were absurde the possession is priuate the vse

of the good things which they inioye is made commone while euerye one doeth know he possesseth them not for his owne priuate commoditie alone but for the benefit of all other This thinge is cleerelye to bee discerned in the members of the bodye For the eye alone doth possesse the sight and yet it dooth see for the whole body Q. Doe yee take it to bee an infallible proofe that a man is indued with the spirite of God and is a true member of the Church when he dooth loue the godly A. It is a perfect proofe Hereby wee knowe that wee be translated out of darkenesse into light if wee loue the brethren d. 1. Ioh. 3.14 It is also a perfect argument that a man is not of that fellowshippe and bodye when he doth hate and stomacke them so that he cannot brooke them For if he were of them hee shoulde loue them although he but heare of them Q. Are all the true Children of the Church Saintes while they be in this life or is the Church called the Communion of saints because they shal be Saints in the life to come A. All that shal be saued are sanctified in this life For except a man be regenerate or borne againe hee shall not enter into the kingdom of heauen e. Iohn 3.3 For this cause the scriptures both in the old and new Testament do call the children of God Saintes euen while they be here in earth f. Psal 16.3 Pilip 1.1 And euery one which maketh account to be of that number must behaue himselfe as a Sainte and doe the thinges which become Saintes g. Ephe. 5.3 Q. What say yee then vnto those which hold stifly that none are Saintes while they liue A. They doe deny an article of our faith and that very grosly Q. But they doe it of humilitie because they dare not presume to take thē selues to be Saintes A. If it be humilitie to denye the fayth they may then be commended But let them not because themselues be vnholy denye the graces of God in others This is no humilitie when they mock at the faith and when in disdaine they reproch men on this wise you be holy men you be Saints They say they be christians why because they can say their Creede and yet they flatly deny that which they professe Q. While men liue here amonge men must they not fashion them selues like vnto other men A. Wee must consider our highe calling and walke woorthy of it h. Ephe. 4.1.2 Wee must haue no felloweshippe with the vnfruitefull woorkes of darkenesse i. Ephe. 5.11 hauing fellowshippe with GOD and with his Sonne Iesus Christ k. 1. Ioh. 1.3 and being called to be saints l. Rom. 1.7 we must keepe our selues vnspotted of the world m. Iam. 1.27 We are commaunded to seperate our selues and to come out from among the wicked n. 2. Co. 6.17 because there can be no felowship betweene light and darknes Q. Wherfore is there ioyned vnto this article the forgiuenesse of sinnes A. Because there is no pardon but vnto those which bee of the Church For as there is no condemnation to those whiche are in Christe o. Rom. 8.1 beecause they be so in him that they be members of his body and called Christ p. 1. Cor. 12.12 God cannot be angry with Christ nor condemne him and therefore he cannot condemne them So contrariwise there is nothing but condemnation to all that be not in him because there is no pardon or forgiuenes of sinnes but in him Q. Can there bee no saluation but in the forgiuenes of sinnes A. Our blessednesse is onely in the couering of our sinnes and pardon of our iniquities q. Psal 32.1 Without this there is nothing but miserie beecause God dooth so abhorre sinne For there is no fowle Toad so loathsom vnto vs nor the most stinking caryon is not so abhorred of vs as the sinner is loathsome and abhominable vnto God there can no vncleane thing stande beefore him but hee must needes remoue it away with detestatiō and curse Q. Doe yee deny the satisfaction for sinnes Q. Those which holde that men must make satisfaction for their sinnes doe denye this Article of our fayth For these two things be quite contrary to make satisfaction and to haue pardon If a man should say vnto his debtor yee owe me suche a sum of money I will forgiue it but ye shal work so many dayes and earne it out this were ridiculous The Papists therfore which affirme that they beeleeue the forgiuenes of sinnes and yet teach that Christe hath taken awaye Originall sinne and for actuall sinne menne muste make satisfaction are not onelye ridiculous but also ranke Heretikes because they deny so great an article of the fayth concerning whiche the Scripture saieth the bloud of Iesus Christe his Sonne cleanseth vs from all sinne r. 1. Iohn 1.7 Q. What is required in vs to obtaine pardon A. True repentaunce which consisteth in the mortification of sinne and puttinge on true holinesse For the penitent sinner who onely shall be saued hath a wounded and bleeding heart for his sinnes and doth hate the filthinesse of them and the graces of the spirite to replenish him with vertues are as a most precious oyle to refreshe his wearie soule Q. Dooth not a man beleeue the forgiuenesse of sinnes aright vnlesse hee knowe his sinnes be forgiuen A. To beeleeue that there is pardon for sinne is little but for a man to haue assurance that his sinnes are forgiuen that is the thing Q. Yee speake of a matter which seemeth to bee farre beyonde a mannes reache for to hope that his sinnes are forgiuen hee maye but to knowe it for certainetie that seemeth vnpossible Q. A man which hath true and vnfaigned repentaunce dooth know for certeintie that he hath it and then he must needes knowe also for certeintie that hee is forgiuen vnlesse hee will doubt of the trueth of God A manne whiche hath not repentaunce or but an haulting repentaunce hath but a doubting opinion that hee is forgiuen which is not agreeinge to the nature of fayth It is no meruaile though they wauer and bee vncertain whether sinnes be forgiuen them which haue no repentaunce For they may be sure they are not He therfore which wold be glad to be pardoned let him beleeue the forgiuenes of sinnes Q. Howe shal a man knowe when he hath true repentaunce A. Hee cannot but knowe when hee hath it by the woorking of Gods spirite in renewing his heart For if he feele his hearte chaunged and the lusts of sinne killed in him so that hee dooth hate euill and shunne it and loue and delyght in that which is good then hee hath repentaunce Q. There is no man so renued but that hee doth abide in some sinnes and therfore may seeme not to haue repented A. I confesse repentaunce is not in full perfection in anye nor yet so greate but that