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A80339 Confidence corrected, error detected, and truth defended; or Some farther reflections upon the two Athenian Mercuries lately publish'd about infant-baptism. By Philalethes Pasiphilus. Pasiphilus, Philalethes. 1692 (1692) Wing C5803A; ESTC R223470 47,010 51

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where the Apostle plainly tells us that here while we walk by Faith we walk not by Sight Implying that while Faith continues Sight is absent consequently when Sight comes Faith disappears Tho 't is true here whilst we are in the Body we are absent from the Lord and to see him that is invisible must needs now be an Act of Faith according to the Text you quote Heb. 11.27 But the time will come when Faith will be turn'd into Vision and Promise which is the ground of Faith into Fruition which is the end of Faith When we shall see Face to Face see him as he is and know as we are known 1 Cor. 13.12 1 Joh. 3.2 So that it 's so far from being evident that Infants have or shall have Faith in Heaven that it is at least a very great Question whether such a thing can fairly be said of the greatest actual Believer in the World But further suppose we should give you the Premises and grant you that Infants may have Faith in Heaven your Conclusion is not a little to be admir'd or rather your selves for your strange skill in Theological Logick Sirs do you indeed look upon this to be good Reasoning that because a thing is or may be thus or so in Heaven therefore it is and must be so here on Earth If you do not why do you talk at this extravagant rate and endeavour to impose that upon others which you do not believe your selves If you do I must acknowledg that all the Wit I have is not sufficient to discover the Greatness of your Folly yet take a taste however In Heaven the Saints shall be wholly freed from all Sin Sorrow and Trouble of what nature soever Ergo Why not so here on Earth In Heaven Saints shall be immortal Ergo Why not so here on Earth In Heaven the now vile Bodies of Saints shall be changed and be made like unto the glorious Body of Christ Ergo Why not so here on Earth with much more of this nature Certainly Sirs there 's none could ever have thought you so preposterously ridiculous if you had not your selves proclaim'd it upon the House-top What a strange thing it is that Men so manifestly weak should yet be so conceitedly strong as to suppose themselves able to answer all the Questions Arguments and Objections that can be sent them from the People call'd Anabaptists But I hope you may yet live to see your Vanity and so get into the Road of learning more Wisdom Thirdly I cannot but note how strangely sometimes you abuse your Antagonists in asking them such kind of Questions as imply an Absurdity in them when they are no more concern'd in the Questions than your selves As for instance you very reprehensively ask them How the Faith of the Parent can put the Child further off from God and how Children can lose by Christ's Coming who came to take away the Sin of the World c. Now would not any Body be apt to think that the Baptists must needs hold the Affirmative here in both these Questions or else you must needs be very impertinent and injurious to them thus unworthily to insinuate Now Sirs I challenge you to give an Instance if you can of any amongst the Baptists that ever told you either in Word or Writing that the Faith of the Parent put the Child further off from God or that Children lost any thing by the Coming of Christ for certainly either you do know of some such or you do not if you do you ought to put it out of question for your own Vindication and then I shall reckon them as weak in that as you are in some other things But if you know of none such what Shame ought you to take to your selves for thus disingenuously misrepresenting your Antagonists to the World as if those very things were the Questions in debate betwixt you In the last place I shall take a little notice what a strange Faculty there is generally in you Pedo-baptists of fawning one upon another how apt you are to magnify and extol one another for every little nothing you do upon a Publick-Stage This has been a Fashion of a long standing amongst you that whoever carries the Thing you still resolve to carry the Thank and whoever loses you must still ride Triumphant And this is the Case of your Postscript-Gentleman towards Mr. Elliot of New-England Not that he so much as attempts to prove that Mr. Elliot did merit or deserve any Honour for what he there says he did but meerly because Mr. Elliot did something with which that Gentleman was pleas'd therefore Honour will for ever redound to Mr. Elliot of New-England Whereas 't is ten to one if the merit of the Cause were but throughly examin'd and impartially consider'd the Honour might rebound from Mr. Elliot and redound to them which oppos'd him and why not for he only tells us that he openly and earnestly maintain'd the Cause of Infant-Baptism against a sort of Persons who forget that in the Gospel-Church the Promise is to Believers and their Children and are unwilling to reckon Children among the Disciples of Christ c. He scarcely so much as tells us much less does he prove that Mr. Elliot was in the Truth and his Antagonists in an Error so that still for ought we know the Honour might belong to the other side to them who openly and earnestly opposed the Cause of Infant-Baptism against a sort of Persons who forget that in the Gospel-Church the Promise he alludes to is any otherwise to any Body than it is to every Body or to Believers Children any otherwise than it was to Believers themselves namely upon Condition of their believing and performing the Conditions required in order thereunto as their Parents before them were fain to do before they had any Interest therein for the Promise belongs to all the World upon those Conditions and to none in the World without them For if it belong to any without Condition then the Promise is absolute and belongs as much to Vnbelievers and their Children as it can do to any Body else And it 's worth observing that these very Persons unto whom Peter speaks these Words were not themselves Believers as yet but Vnbelievers when Peter spake these Words unto them c. Neither has this Gentleman told us at all what Infants are the better for Mr. Elliot's reckoning them Disciples of Christ he has not so much as told us that Mr. Elliot proved them so to be And pray what Advantage can it be to poor Infants to be miscalled and reckoned what they are not What if Mr. Elliot of New-England had reckoned Children of Believers to be Lawyers Counsellors and Judges would this have done the poor Children any Good or have provoked any wise Man to have carried any of them a Fee to plead his Cause Or what Honour would have been due to Mr. Elliot for such an idle Encomium any more than to