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A30534 A message proclaimed. By divine authority from the chosen assembly of the redeemed people in England, to the Pope (chief bishop) of Rome, and to his cardinals, Jesuits, and priests, and all other the officers of the Romish Church, where it shall meet with them through the world: that they may appear, and come forth to triall, and shew if they have the same faith, power, spirit, and authoritie, and government, as had the Apostles and true churches, before the apostacie: and this is a full invitation and challenge to the whole Church of Rome, and the beginning of controversie with her, for the perfect manifestation of the long hidden truth; betwixt them that are in the truth it self, and such as have the form, but not the power; that all things may be brought to light and true judgement. Written by an embassador for the true and living God, E.B. Burrough, Edward, 1634-1662. 1658 (1658) Wing B6013A; ESTC R203576 16,877 25

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of the bodie of Christ and baptized into his true Church and is it a perfect seal and sign of the new birth and regeneration as is professed and doth that give all children that are sprinkled a right to the Kingdom of God and to be members of the Church of Christ and satisfie us plainly is the sprinkling of an Infant never having heard of Gospel but while unconverted and unchanged in nature the true baptism into the true Faith of Christ as it is professed Answer me plainly yea or nay 6. Whether the bodie and bloud of Christ that is meat indeed and drink indeed be carnal and visible things to be seen felt and known visiblie and carnallie and whether bread and wine that is mortall and will corrupt be the very body and the very bloud of Christ Jesus and whether Christ hath any other bodie and bloud to be known in any other way or manner then what is professed to be visiblie and carnallie known by you and is that bread after consecration the verie expresse Image of the Father and was with the Father before the world began else it is not the bodie of Christ answer me plainlie 7. Again we are not satisfied concerning your burning and torturing and imprisoning in cruel Iquisitions and Goals such as dissenteth from you and cannot believe in your church which ye call hereticks whether is not this done by your church or any member thereof and do you justifie the doing of it by the authoritie of your church and we demand of you to give us example for such practises in Scripture ever practised by the Apostles or true Church or any member thereof to burn or kill or imprison such as would not own them and were hereticks otherwise we must condemn it and judge you eternally for it and whether such practises done at Rome and in her dominions be not murder and crueltie and tyrannie and shedding of innocent bloud and of the devil the wicked one answer me plainly and satisfie us herein that we may know how to deal with you in controversie 8. Again we are not satisfied concerning the abundance of Images of the Saints set up and bowed to among you and your praying before them and to the Saints and by beads and in set forms such things you practise and also your keeping and setting apart the Saints daies and your holy daies and eating with respect to daies denying of flesh such and such daies and observing of daies and meats and drinks and fasting in your own wils and your Nunneries and keeping men and women one from another in secret houses whether are these things commanded and required of the Lord from you and we charge you to give us some example that ever the true Church practised such things otherwise if you do not nor cannot prove these your practises from the Scriptures and example of the Apostles before you we must deny you and condemn your practises for ever and cannot believe that your church is the true church nor you lawful successors of the holy Apostles 9. What you believe concerning the reign and government of Christ and his coming is he his reign and government visible and of this world or invisible and from heaven and whether liars whoremongers adulterers drunkards man-slayers and contentious men or any that lives in any sin or transgression in the first nature be of the kingdome and government of Jesus or hath any part or portion therein in time to come for ever and how may such ever have part therein and give us your knowledge in these things and also what you hold and profess concerning Election and Reprobation that we may know whether your knowledge and faith be sound and perfect in these things and to be imbraced or condemned and denied 10. What is the Man-child that hath been caught up to God and what is the reason of his being caught up and what is the Woman that fled into the wildernesse and what is the cause of her so flying and when is the the time is it come or to come that the Man-child hath been caught up the woman fled that the man-child shall come down again the Woman again return and what is that Beast the first and the second and is his kingdom come or yet to come who reigned over the Kings of the earth and caused all both small and great to worship him and killed the Saints and overcome them that would not worship him and made war against the Lamb and persecuted the Womans seed and when is it that the world wondered after the Beast is it come or to come answer these things in plainness we demand of you 11. What and who is that great Whore that sits upon many waters with whom the Kings of the earth commits fornications and who hath made Nations drunk with the wine of her fornications and who hath reigned over the Kings and dominions of the earth and is that Whore come or yet to come and whether is your church every whit free from the fornications of that Whore and will you admit of lawful trial by your fruits and works and suffer judgement accordinglie and whether the whole church of Rome or any part of her dominions be the multitudes peoples and nations and tongues the waters or which the Whore sits and whether your church be whollie free from that Woman which have drunk the bloud of Saints and of the Martyrs of Jesus and shew us plainlie who that Whore is if you can and what is her flesh and the fire that must burn it 12. Whether are the false prophets and deceivers come or to come which Christ said should come if you say they are come when did they come and who are they and how may they be known and what was their first original and out of what doth all false prophets and false prophecies come is the church of Rome clear of all the false prophets and whether is your ministrie in the verie same power spirit and authoritie which the Apostles were in is its call and ordination the verie same is its maintenance and practice the verie same and its fruits effects and end the verie same or some other let us know from you that we may lay you to the line of true judgement for all people and nations to behold And come friends let us reason a little with you further we are not satisfied that the Bishop of Rome is true and lawful successor of the Apostle Peter had Peter a triple crown and did Kings bow and kneel to him and had Peter such large revenues and money out of the Nations as the Pope Hath did Peter sell pardons for money or did any buy religion of him and did Peter at all rule over mens consciences and was Peter named holinesse we demand of you to prove rightlie and trulie that the Pope doth succeed Peter in the same Spirit in the same power and in the same conversation and that his call to
oversee the church be justlie the same as Peters was and that he execute it perfectlie as Peter did Also answer us plainlie what is the seed of the Woman and what is the head of the Serpent and is his head bruised yea or nay and what is the Devil and what is his beginning and what is the kingdom that he is Ruler of and how is his kingdom to be destroyed and what is the flesh of Christ and his bloud which was before Abraham and how is Christ made under the Law answer me these things And what is the death that hath reigned over all and what is the power thereof and what is the fruits of that death and when must that death be destroyed and is it destroyed among you and what was man in his creation of the dust of the ground and what was he that was the verie Image of God male and female before Adam was formed of the dust of the ground or Eve taken out of him declare these things plainlie if you can and what is the first transgression the curse whether any can be made free from the curse upon the earth yea or nay and what is the Kingdom of heaven that is like a little leaven and that is like a net cast into the sea and what is that which must be leavened and what is that good fish that must be gathered into vessels that bad that must be cast away how doth the Kingdom of heaven bring the bad out of the waters to the shore and why is it and wherefore and what is the reason that none can enter the Kingdom of God nor see it but such as are born again and how is a man born again and what is that mothers womb that Iob all mankind came out of naked and that must return thither again naked and what are the the fig-leaves that hath covered in transgression and what is the covering of the Spirit and what must be covered and what not and why is it and how comes it to passe that one and the same thing is sin wickedness acted by one and the same thing good and just acted by another These things answer to us plainlie also prove all your practises and profession by plain Scripture and give us example from Peter and the true Churches that he and they practised the same things which the Pope and you do if you would have any to own you otherwise if you do not or cannot satisfie all people in these particulars by the Scriptures then forsake your Religion and renounce your Church and confess your selves to be deceivers of the world and to be deceived for God will tear your garments and marre your beautie and stain your crowns and uncover your nakedness and subdue your power and slay your strength and pull down your strong holds and the dread of the Almightie will come over you And come friends answer me is the light by which you walk everlasting and is the day dawned and the Sun risen that never goeth down and have you seen the signs of the coming of the Son of man and what are the signs of his coming and what is that Sun that must be turned into darkness and what is that Moon that must be turned into bloud and what are the keepers of the house that must tremble and do you own quaking and trembling at the Word of the Lord and did you ever quake and tremble or is there such a thing in your church and what is that part in man that must tremble is it not that part in man that the devil enters into answer these things and what is that mother of harlots and where is she that hath been drunk with the bloud of the Saints and what is the mysterie of her declare it if you can and what is her garments and who are her children and of what nature are they and how may they be known and come friends answer us have you seen God face to face as did Iacob and Abraham and have you seen his Shape perfectlie give us a description of him if you have and doth not all those that be of the seed of Abraham hear Gods voice and see his shape and are any of Abraham but who are come out of the world and have denied it and bares the daily crosse of Christ which mortifies to the world and doth your wooden crosses and stone crosses in your towns high-waies in your houses crucifixes in your breasts crucifie you to the world and mortifie you or are you not such as have the form of a crosse of Christ but wants the power and what is the difference between all your Images and the Images the Prophets declared against and what life is there in the Image of Christ or Mary painted or graven in wood or stone are your soules refreshed thereby and is not that all the unitie you have with Christ and is that unitie and fellowship you have with Christ the same that they had that had unitie and fellowship with the Father and with the Son and have you unitie with the Son and with the Father as the true Church had tell us plainlie and what is Antichrist and where is his reigning at this day and what is his marks and signs and what is the marks of the Beast that every one received in their foreheads and in their hands and what is his power by which he causeth every one to worship him and is the church of Rome whollie free from that from causing and compelling people to be of your Religion and come to your worship by your fire and faggots and inquisitions make it us plain that this is not the beasts power for we have a jealousie at least it is not the power of God that was among the Apostles and why do you kill creatures did Christ or the Apostles kill creatures that were not of their Religion doth not this shew that you want the Power and Spirit of God among you and the spiritual weapon that beats down the strong holds we cannot believe that you have the spiritual weapons which the Apostles had except you make it appear to us and can any be converted to the true Church but by the immediate work and Spirit of God and they that have that need not be ashamed but then why are some of your ministers creeping up and down the Nations in holes and dare not be seen but lies many years together undiscovered not daring to preach their Gospel and discover their minds did ever the Apostles thus and is not this a sign that they have not the power of God to carry them through but runs into holes and corners for fear of their lives is this the way of the true Ministers of Christ and what is the Lambs Wife and what is her adorning and her beautie and are you the Lambs Wife and are married to him for ever hath every member of your church the witness