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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A39304	The foundation of tythes shaken and the four principal posts (of divine institution, primitive practice, voluntary donations, & positive laws) on which the nameless author of the book, called, The right of tythes asserted and proved, hath set his pretended right to tythes, removed, in a reply to the said book / by Thomas Ellwood.	Ellwood, Thomas, 1639-1713.	1678 (1678)	Wing E622; ESTC R20505	321,752	532

Masses sayes Bede it happened that no ma● had power to bind him but presently his Bonds were loosed And he reports the Yo●ng man himself to give this Answer to the Earl that had him in custody inquiring the reason why he could not be kept bound I have said he a Brother a Priest in my Country and I know that he supposing me to be slain doth often say Mas● for me and if I were now in the other World there my Soul through his intercessions would be released from punishments Afterwards when this Young man being Ransomed returned home and recounted what had befallen him many sayes the Historian by the report hereof were stirred up in Faith and Devotion to Pray or to give Alms or to offer the Sacrifices of an holy Oblation to the Lord for the REDEMPTION of their Relations who were departed out of this World For they understood sayes Bede that the healthful Sacrifice was available to the EVERLASTING REDEMPTION both of SOUL and BODY Thus hast thou Reader a brief discovery both what sort of Masses were then in use and what they attributed to them no less then the Redemption of Souls for which Christ died Now for a close take withal the Account which Perkins in his Problem against Coc●ius pag. 145. gives of the Rise of the Mass thus First sayes he The Lord's Supper was celebrated in a most plain manner 2 dly It was increased with Ceremonies and first with Oblations for the Dead which was a gratulation or thanksgiving for them and this was two Hundred Years after Christ. 3 dly Prayers for the Dead were added about the Year 400. Then Purgatory and Redemption of Souls out of Purgatory by Masses Then about the Year 780. Gregoryes Mass began to be used in the Churches of Italy where before the Liturgy of Ambrose had been more in use 4 thly They began to dispute of Transubstantiation about the Year 840. So that it seems not only saying of Masses for the Redemption of Souls out of Purgatory was in use but Transubstantiation also was on Foot before this famous Charter of Ethelwolf for Tythes was granted Judge now R●ader if thou art a Protestant whether Popery had not made her incroachments in the Church before Ethelwolf's time whether the Cl●rgy to whom he gave Tythes were not Popish who undertook to say these Masses for him and his Nobles both Living and Dead and whether the Priest has not grosly abused his Reader in suggesting that these Masses were only innocent Prayers and in affirming they were far different from the Missal of the Church of Rome § 16. Next he says pag. 110. I quarrel with the Charter for the Names of the Saints annext to it in whose Honour it s said to have been made I gave the words of Ingulf thus for the Honour of Mary the glorious Virgin and Mother of God and of Saint Michael the Arch-Angel and of the Prince of the Apostles Saint Peter as also of our holy Father Pope Gregory To take off this Note of Popery the Priest sayes pag. 110. T. E. may ●ote that there is not one of the three Mentioners of this Clause that agree in it so that it is very probable the Historians living some Ages after might as their manner is put in this less mat●rial passage in the phrase of their own times of which dealing in other Cases I could give many instances To let pass his Solecism or Incongruity of Speech that there is not one of the three Mentioners of this Clause that agree in it more tollerable in one so illiterate as my self then in such a profound Rabbi I desire him and the Reader also to take notice that the same Objection upon the same Reason lies as forcibly against the Extent of the Charter it self there being as great variety and little agreement in that part amongst the mentioners of the Charter as there is in the mention of the Saints for whose Honour the Charter is said to be made so that up on that s●ore it may as well be questioned whethe● the Grant was general of All England or not for some of the Historians give it in such words as seem to speak only of his Demeasne Lands some of his Kingdom of West-Sa●ony only so that it is as probable that the Historians that extend this Donation to All England might therein follow the Humou● of their own times of which dealing in other cases I could give som● instances also In the mean time the Priest had best have a care how he adventures to ra●e the Images of the Saints carved upon his beloved Charter lest before he be aware he shake and weaken the Foundation of the Charter it self But he says However it was given to God in the first pla●e and no mention of the Saints in all the body of the Charter But sure he had forgotten that Matthew of Westminster hath in the very body of the Charter Deo et beatae Mariae et omnibus Sanctis i. e. To God and blessed Mary and to all Saints In his next page he says I quarrel with the other Priest because he will not grant they gave Tythes in a blind and superstitious Zeal and he takes upon him to defend it misapplying the words of the Apo●tle It is good to be Zealous alwayes in a good thing But the Priest has not prov'd their giving of Tythes a good thing and I have proved they were blind and superstitious in this as well as in other things and therefore their Zeal therein was not commendable but condemnable But his Brother Priest seems to be now of another Mind and to understand the Case better for in hi● Vindication pag. ●03 acknowledging there might be some Corruptions and great Defects in Ethelwolf's Charter yet withal endeavouring to excuse him as having no idolatrous Design but an honest Zeal that those whom ●e esteemed Ministers of Christ might be provided for he adds What can be more uncharitable the● to make a damnable Idolater of him for doing something though it were in an ill manner through invincible ●gnorance Thus he who in his Conferrence pag. 147. would by no means admit that Tythes were given in an ignorant Zeal doth here in Contradiction both to his Brother Priest and to himself acknowledge this Do●ation of Tythes was made in an ill manner and through invincible ignorance Nor doth he attempt to wipe off those stains which I had discovered in his Charter but rather endeavours to cover them again by drawing t●e Curtain of Ignorance before them This however he is forced to grant That this Donation of Tythes proceeded from Ignorance yea from in●incible Ignorance so that ignorance at least to say no worse was in this particular the Mother of Ethelwolf's Devotion Again sayes the Author of the Right of Tythes to his Brother Priest Whereas you had said Tythes were given to God for the Maintenace of his Ministry T. E. interprets this to be a calling the idolatrous Priesthood of

Boniface he sayes pag. 92. If I desire to have the name of Tythes as well as the thing among the Antient Saxons I may find in the Epistle of Boniface to Cuthbert Arch-Bishop of Canterbury Anno. 745. That the English Priests in those dayes were maintained by the taking the daily Oblations and Tythes of the faithful Hitherto he has found neither the thing nor the name among his Saxon Evidences but has given only some ill grounded Conjectures that Church-esset and Ciric-sceat might signifie a kind of Tythes And what he has now found in the Epistle of this Arch-Bishop Boniface comes much too late to clear Tythes from the blemish of Popish Institution For if he could prove an Institution of Tythes in this Nation a general Dedication of Tythes or any positive Law commanding the payment of Tythes here as early as this Epistle of Boniface which yet is far from early in comparison of the earliest dayes of Christianity yet unless he could also wipe away for covering will not se●ve those foul Spots and filthy Stains those gross Corruptions and Superstitions wherewith the Church was 〈◊〉 that time and before miserably polluted and deformed all he can say will not acquit Tythes from a Popish Institution even according to the Notion his Brother Priest has given of Popery But though through the blind devotion of that Age some of the most superstitiously Zealous might not improbably give Tythes yet hath not he given or met with any Law Constitution or Synodal Decree of that time of undoubted Credit injoyning the payment of Tythes This very Cuthb●rt to whom the fore-cited Epistle of Boniface was written being then Arch-Bishop of Canterbury called together the Bishops and Prelates and held a great Synod near a place called Clomesh● the Decrees of which Synod Iohn Fox hath set down particularly in his Acts and Monuments of the Church upon the Year 747. in which Year that Synod was held But in all those Decrees there is not the least mention of Tythes No Constitution yet appears Civil or Ecclesiastical for the payment of Tythes And as for Boniface himself from whose Epistle the Priest would prove the settlement of Tythes in England before Popery take but the Character that Fox gives of him in the place fore-quoted and then think as thou canst of him the Religion and times he lived in First he taxes him with maintaining superstitious Orders of lascivious Nun● and other Religio●s and restraining the same from lawful Marriage Then he adds For so we find of him in Stories that he was a great setter up and upholder of such blind Superstition and all Popery Who being admitted by Pope Gregory the second Arch-Bishop of Magunce and indued with full Authority legantine over the Germans builded Monasteries Canonized Saints commanded Relicks to be worshipped c. Item sayes he by the Authority of the said Arch-Bishop Boniface which he received from Pope Zachary Childerious King of France was deposed from the right of his Crown and Pipinus betrayer of his Master was confirmed c. From this Boniface adds he proceeded that detestable Doctrine which now standeth Registred in the Popes Decrees Dist. 40. Cap. Si papa which in a certain Epistle of his is this That in case the Pope were of most filthy living and forgetful or negligent of himself and of the whole Christianity in such sort that he led innumerable Souls with him to H●ll yet ought there no man to rebuke him in so doing for he hath Power to judge all men and ought of no man to be judged again Now Reader weigh and consider with thy self what manner of Bishop this Boniface was what a Religion he profest what times he lived in and then tell me whether or no Popery had not made her encroachments in the Church in the time of this Bishop Boniface Next to the Epistle of Boniface before mentioned the Priest offers a Collection made by Egbert Arch-Bishop of York in the Year as he says 750. of all the Cano●s that were made in the Councils before his time and wh●ch were in force in England among which Canons he sayes pag. 93. there is frequent mention of Tythes as particularly in the 4. 5. 99. and 100. The words of the fourth Canon he gives thus That the People be 〈◊〉 in the right manner of Offering them to Gods Church The words of the fifth Canon he sets down thus That the Priest shall take them and set down the names of those who gave them There he stops omitting the rest of that Canon which in the Latine thus follows et secundum Autoritatem Canonicam coram testibus divi●ant et ad ornamentum ecclesiae primam eligant partem secundam autem ad usum pauperum atque peregrinorum per ●or●● manus misericorditer cum omni humilitate dispensent terti●● vero sibimet ipsis Sacerdotes reservent i. e. and according to Canonical Authority shall divide them before Witnesses and shall chuse the first part for the Ornament of the Church The second part they shall with all humility most mercifully distribute with their own hands to the use of the Poor a●d of Strangers but the third part the Priests shall keep for themselves I have Transcribed this only to shew the Priest's Craft in concealing it He would have the benefit of this Canon he would use the Authority of it to prove his Claim to Tythes but he would not have the People understand how and to what uses Tythes were appointed by this Canon to be imployed How great a charge are the People now at in maintaining the Poor and in repairing and adorning those Houses which they call Churches over and above their Tythes to the Priests whereas this Canon which the Priest urges for the proof of his Claim to Tythes commands expresly that the Tythes being divided into three parts two parts of the three should be bestowed upon those publique uses and the Priests to have but the one third part that remained But now alas the Priests swollow the whole tenths the two parts as well as the third and the People are fain to make New-Levies to defray those publique charges from which by this Canon they were to be freed But be this spoken by the way only Now to the Canons themselves He sayes they were collected by Egbert about the Year 750. but by whom and when were they made Doubtless that had been very material but he has not a Syllable of it but delivers it in the gross for a Collection made by Egbert of all the Canons that were made in the Councils before his time c. But by what Art did Egbert collect Canons that were not made till after his death For that some such are ●n that Collection which bare his name Selden gives more then probable reasons First he sayes The Authority of the Title must undergo a Censure Then he adds Who ever made it supposed that Egbert gathered that Law and the rest joyn'd with it out of some