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A10133	Iacobs vovv, opposed to the vowes of monkes and friers The first volume in two bookes; of the Holy Scripture, and euangelicall counsels. Written in French by Mr. Gilbert Primerose, minister of the word of God in the Reformed Church of Burdeaux. And translated into English by Iohn Bulteel minister of the gospel of Iesus Christ.; Voeu de Jacob. English	Primrose, Gilbert, ca. 1580-1642.; J. B. (John Bulteel), d. 1699.	1617 (1617)	STC 20390; ESTC S112003	232,060	268

greater reward There were certaine heretikes in Saint Austins time g August e●●st 89. quast 4. which taught that a rich man remaining in his possessions and riches cannot enter into the Kingdome of Heauen although he hath done the Commandements of God with his riches Saint Austin answeres and refutes them by the examples of Abraham Isaac and Iacob Our Fathers Abraham Isaac and Iacob that are departed out of this world so long before haue escaped the disputations of these men for all these had n● small riches as the most faithfull Scripture witnesseth it and notwithstanding euen he who being truely rich became poore for vs hath foretold by a most true promise h Mat. 8.11 Non supra ipsos vel extra ipsos sed cum ipsis that many shall come from the East and West and shall sit downe in the Kingdome of Heauen not aboue them nor beyond them but with them These words doe minister vnto me a second argument That which being obserued brings not a greater glory then if it were not obserued is no Counsell but to sell all that we haue and giue to the poore procures not a greater glory then is that of Abraham Isaac and Iacob which haue not sold that which they had Therefore to sell what we haue and giue to the poore is not a Counsell The Maior is grounded vpon the definition of a Counsell such a one as is in the Pastorall Letter The minor is of the Scripture witnessing that none shall haue a greater glory then Abraham Isaac and Iacob who haue liued and died abounding in great wealth and substance because as Saint Austin hath obserued They which shall come from the East and West of what qualitie and condition soeuer they be shall be in heauen with them and not beyond them nor before them Therefore the conclusion is necessarie III. Nay furthermore although it were a Counsell all the world may see that the Author of the Pastorall Letter alleageth it against himselfe and ouerthroweth that which he pretends to build by it for if to sell all that we haue is a Counsell of perfection meritorious and worthy of a greater reward and glory why doth he not it himselfe why giues he not ouer his Cardinals Hat why desires he to be called any longer the Prince of the Church with what conscience doth hee possesse and enioy the reuenew of two thousand pounds yeerely why sells hee not all giues not all takes not the scrip and so follow Christ The Pope abounding more in gold and siluer then any King in Christendome the Cardinals whereof some of them are richer then any Prince or Lord in Christendome the Bishops and other Ecclesiasticall persons that are ouerwhelmed in riches and pleasures why doe they not as much Saint Peter of whose succession the Pope boasts i Act. 3.6 had neither siluer nor gold Saint Paul was so poore that k Act. 18.3 20.34 1. Cor. 4.12 1. Thes 2.9 2. Thes 3.8 he got his liuing by making tents The other Apostles were no better at ease l Mat. 19.27 Behold say they vnto Christ we haue forsaken all and followed thee Where shall we finde any of their Bishops which maintaine that they are their successors any one of them that forsaketh his riches to follow Christ who amongst them would be Bishop but to haue riches who amongst them would burden and charge himselfe with that office if that office were not charged with many fat and great benefices These are notwithstanding they who liuing in the world and in pleasure as much as any of the world doe preach pouertie and extreme miserie vnto others like the Pharisees in this point of whom Christ Iesu our Master said m Math. 23.4 They binde heauie burdent and grieuous to bee borne and lay them on mens shoulders but they themselues will not moue them with one of their fingers IIII. As he condemnes himself in alleaging this pretended Counsell as a greater louer of the perishable riches of this world then of the greatest glory of heauen n Mat. 6.20 Where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt and where theeues doe not breake thorow nor steale Euen so he ouerthrowes his cause which he would recommend He threatens with excommunication ● father and a mother that haue opposed themselues that their daughters should not resort nor giue themselues to the Vrselines It must bee a matter of very great importance for the which a man is excommunicated that is to say cut off from the Communion of Saints and deliuered vnto Satan What haue they done They haue laboured to hinder their daughters entring into the Couent of the Vrseline Nunnes Is that a sinne worthie of excommunication He that opposeth himselfe against the obseruation of the Counsels of Christ is worthy of execration I will say with Saint Paul o 1 Cor. 16.22 Let him bee Anathema maranatha I will say vnto him as Saint Paul did to Elymas p Act. 13.10 O full of all subtiltie and all mischiefe thou childe of the deuill thou enemie of all right cousnesse wilt thou not cease to peruert the right wa●●s of the Lord But where are these Counsels Behold here one Goe and sell that thou hast c. Is this Counsell giuen to the Vrselines is it followed and done by the Vrselines Do they sell all that they haue to giue to the poore Doe they not take away and conuey their wealth with them into the Cloyster of the Vrselines Doe they not robbe their fathers and mothers and parents by an impious barbarous and cruell deuotion to inrich the Vrselines Are the Vrselines those poore of whom Christ saith and giue it to the poore Here I appeale vnto the conscience of Monkes Is there any of them all that selles all that he hath an giues it to the poore They which begge among them and others become Monks or are often compelled by their fathers and mothers to become Monkes that their goods and patrimonie remaine in the house to entertaine the greatnesse and honour thereof and enrich their eldest brother Others transporte their patrimony with them into the corporation of the Cloister and make good cheare therewith Is that a selling of all that they haue giuing it to the poore Therefore it is a pure mockerie yea they gull the world by preaching so much the Counsel of Christ and couering with so faire a name the hypocrisie of those which doe not Christs words which sell nothing giue nothing to the poore which seeke all meanes to enrich themselues by making many families poore Such are the Iesuites and such would the Vrselines be shortly if men would let them doe it V. I haue sufficiently proued that Christs words to the rich man are no Counsell in the sense wherein this word is taken in this disputation I will make you now see by the true exposition thereof that they are a particular precept giuen vnto this young Lord. The Euangelists doe declare

spake not oracles in the expounding of the Scriptures that for not hauing the vse of a good Translation they haue often straied and swarued from the true meaning of the holy Ghost that many things in Moses and the Prophets are better and more exactly expounded in our age then they had euer beene before Others haue said and written as much CHAP. VI. I. There is none of the Fathers that hath not erred none of them therefore that can alone be iudge of the sense of the Scripture II. No more can the consent of the greater number of them because all haue erred together in the same points of doctrine either in mens opinion or in truth III. All the Fathers haue diuided the first Table of the Law in foure Commandements and are reiected two onely haue reduced it to three and are receiued of the Romane Church IIII. The opinion of Saint Austin alone to be preferred before that of Saint Hierome and of the number and multitude of the Fathers touching Saint Peter reprehended by Saint Paul V. The ancient Fathers for the most part were Millenaries or Chiliastae and thought that the soules saw not not God before the resurrection VI. All the Fathers haue beleeued for the space of 1500 yeeres that the Virgin Marie was conceiued in sinne their consent and agreement in the same is condemned by the Church of Rome VII The whole ancient and Primitiue Church for 1400 yeeres did celebrate the Eucharist vnder two Elements that is now adaies heresie in the opinion of the Romish Church VIII To make a shew of to relie on or shroud himselfe vnder the exposition of the Fathers and yet to refuse and forsake them is to make a mocke of the Fathers THe a Bellar. de concil writings of the Fathers are no rules and haue no authoritie to binde vs by the proper confession of them which bindes the consciences of the children of God of the co-heires of Christ vnto their authoritie take euery one of them apart take the greatest number of them consider them altogether and you will finde that it is so He on whose iudgement my conscience ought to rest must be indued with such a perfection that he cannot be allured nor induced to any error and cannot seduce nor misleade me by any errour it behoues that God giue him this testimony in the holy scriptures which giue this prerogatiue to none but to the Prophets and Apostles Let vs take the others one by one b Bellar. de verbo Dei lib. 3. c. 10. §. 21. Dices although they haue had the gift of interpreting in an high degree and haue beene spirituall yet is it certaine that the chiefest amongst them yea all of them haue erred and haue fallen into grosse faults and grieuous errors c Canus lib. 7. de locis Theolog. cap. 3. yea and sometimes doe engender monsters II. If all together or the greater number against the l●sse as ordinarily they hold and maintaine yet thus do they not receiue them d Maldon in Matth. 19.20 Maldonat expounding the historie of the rich man that said to our Sauiour that he had kept all the Commandements from his youth vp saith Some Fathers Hilarie Ierome Ambrose Austin Theophilact Beda and others say that this young man lied notwithstanding I rather like and approue saith he the opinion of Basil Euthymi●s Chrysostome and so preferres the lesser number before the greater III. All the Fathers haue deuided the ten Commandements placing foure of them in the first Table and sixe in the second except e Clemens stromat lib. 6. Clement Alexandrinus who hath acknowledged but nine And Saint f August qu. 71 in Exod. Austin ioyning the second with the first hath reduced the foure of the first Table to three seeking in it the mysterie of the Trinitie and hath made two of the last of the second Table Notwithstanding the common diuision of g Phil. de Dialogo Philo h Ioseph antiq lib. 3. c 4. Ioseph and of i Aben Ezra in Exod. 20. all the Iewes of k Greg. Nazianz in vers de decalogo Gregory Nazianzen l Origen in Exo. hom 8. Origen m Athanas in Synopsi sacrae scripturae Athanasius n Chrysost operis imperfect in Mat. hom 49. Chrysostome amongst the Greekes of o Hieron in epist ad Ephes cap. 6. Saint Hieromie p Ambros in epist ad Ephes cap. 6. Saint Ambrose and of q Aug. qu. vet noui Test cap. 7. Saint Austin himselfe if 〈…〉 Author of the questions of the old and new Testament is reiected of the whole Romish Church and that opinion of Saint Austin contradicting himselfe is receiued and that not without cause IIII. There was a great contention betweene Saint Ier●●● and Saint Austin concerning the rebuke that Saint Paul made to Saint Peter before the whole Church of Antioch Saint Ierome held that Saint Paul did dissemble with Saint Peter that he did vse an officious lie and an honest dispensation and did quote and alleage for himself many Fathers of whom hee made so much that he feared not to say r Hyeron Aug. If thou dost blame and 〈…〉 as one that erres 〈◊〉 me 〈…〉 them that are such Saint Austin held that Saint Paul rebuked Saint Peter in earnest and saith that if hee had read much hee might haue found as many Fathers on his side ſ August epi. 19. But faith he I haue for them all and aboue them all the Apostle Paul I haue my refuge to him I appeale from all them which haue expounded his writings and thinke otherwise to him I aske and dem●●●● himselfe c. and I heare him crying with a religious voice in the exordium and beginning of this narration Concerning the things I write vnto you Behold I say before God that I lie not let those that thinke otherwise pardon me I had rather beleeue so great an Apostle taking his oath in his writings and for his writings then any man bee hee neuer so learned disputing of other mens writings Doe not we hold now adaies that Saint Austines opinion was sounder and truer then that of Saint Hierome and of his adherents Medina t Medina de sacror hom orig lib. 1 c. 5. hath not doubted to affirme that Ierome Sedulius Primasius Theodoret Austin Chrysostome Theophylact haue held that the order of Bishops and of Priests is one and the selfe same order They that beleeue that now adaies are held for heretickes of the Romane Bishops and of their clients and followers V. The u Greg. Valent. Jes lib. 8. anclys c. 8. Senens bibl lib. 3. annot 237. ancient Fathers for the most part were Millenaries Papius an Auditor of the Apostle Saint Iohn Apollinaris Irenaeus Tertullian Victorin Lactantius Seuerus Sulpicius and a great number of Catholicks Iustin Martyr all of them deceiued for not vnderstanding well that which is written in the Reuelation x Reuel

which lighteth euery man that commeth into the world Seuenthly that the fathers are so many in number their writings in like manner that though a man had an iron body he could not take the paines to reade them all and though he had a memory of steele he could not remember the expositions of all of them that there is no man liuing which hath them all no man liuing which hath read all those we haue yea I suppose and presume that I may say truely that all the liuing together haue not read them all whereas all can and may reade the Scripture ouer and ouer euery one oftentimes learne by it with prayer and labour all that is necessarie for their saluation Eightly lastly that the Scriptures are snatched out of the peoples hands deteined in such a brutish ignorance that they cannot know if the things written by the Fathers are of the Scripture or no the meanes to reade the Fathers is taken away from them so that they cannot know how they expound the Scriptures and therefore it is a meere mockerie to send the ignorant to the Fathers which they haue neuer read which they cannot reade though they would and dare not reade them though they could and whom they cannot vnderstand though they should reade them and therefore are taught to referre themselues in all these things to that which their Pastors and Doctors will make them beleeue II. This is the sense of that which followeth in the Pastorall letter where to that which hath been said that we ought not to speake of the Scriptures otherwise then the fathers expound them is added And besides your spirituall Fathers Pastors and Doctors that are instituted of God grounded on the lawfull succession of the Apostles to expound and interpret it to you f Malach. 27. Labia Sacerdotis custodient scientiam ex ore eius legem requirent The Priests lipps shall keepe knowledge and they shall seeke and aske the Law at his mouth III. We ought not to take away from the true Pastors and Doctors any thing of that which God giues them Saint Paul saith of himselfe and of all g 1. Cor. 4.1 Let a man so account of vs as of the Ministers of Christ and Stewards of the mysteries of God and elsewhere h 2. Co. 5.19.20 God hath committed vnto vs the Word of reconciliation We therfore are Ambassadours for Christ as though God did beseech you by vs. We ought then to account and esteeme of them and to put them in another ranke then priuate persons are we are to heare them with attention and reuerence in the declaration of their commission And if we honour the Ministers and Ambassadours of a Prince for the Princes sake who sends them how much more shall we honour and reuerence the Ministers of Christ Iesus who is the i Acts 3.15 Prince of life and hath written on his thighe k Reuel 19.16 The King of Kings and Lord of Lords for Christ Iesus sake But they ought also to know that they are but Ministers of Christ therfore are not Lords and Masters ouer the Church which is the body and spouse of Christ that they are the Ministers of Christ therfore are called administerium non ad magisterium to serue and that with labor and paines like those which row in shipps 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 as the Greeke word beareth and not to gouerne and play the Regent according to their owne fancie and affection that they are stewards of the great mysteries of God of the great mysteries of the Gospel the which they must distribute that is to say preach and apply it to the vse and saluation of the Saints That they are the Ambassadors for Christ and therefore they ought to produce their letters and patent of their commission and declare faithfully the substance of the same without any addition diminution or changing thereof They are no more priuiledged then Saint Paul was who l 1. Cor. 11.23 receiued of the Lord that which he deliuered vnto them and m Acts 26.22 Rom. 1.22 hath giuen nothing but that which was written touching the substance of the doctrine And of that whereof euery one had the copie in hand to examine if he kept himselfe in the precincts and compasse of his charge and commission as n Acts 17.11 they of Berea did with praise and commendation IIII. Therefore the Apostle hauing declared what is their charge and function and the dignitie or excellencie thereof giues them this admonition o 1. Cor. 4.2 Moreouer it is required in Stewards that a man be found faithfull faithfull in care in labor and especially in the preaching of the will of God in purenesse and simplicitie without any mixture of humane traditions his will say we wholy comprehended in the Scriptures of the which God will that all should haue copie as being all his children and hauing right and reason to know the contents of his Testament to the ende that if they which are but his Teachmen and Heralds doe interpret other language then his relate and deliuer otherwise then that which he hath giuen in writing and hauing sent the copies throughout all the world they be not heard what succession soeuer they pretend Aaron from and by whom the Leuiticall succession began p Exod. 32.4 made a golden calfe and notwithstanding the Leuits who were inferiour vnto him would not be partakers of his sinne q but obserued the words of God and kept them If a prophet or a dreamer of dreames did arise amongst the people and made signes and miracles and hee say let vs goe after other Gods and let vs serue them God commanded to put such a one to death and saith to the people r Thou shalt not hearken vnto the words of that prophet or dreamer of dreames c. Yee shall walke after the Lord your God and feare him and keepe his commandements and obey his voyce and you shall serue him and cleaue vnto him In like manner the Prophet Isaiah sends them to ſ Isai ● 20 the Law and to the testimony saying If they speake not according to this word it is because there is no light in them Saint Peter also to the Pastors and Ministers t 1. Pet. 4.11 If any man speake let him speake as the oracles of God And Saint Iohn writing to a woman and in her person to all u 2. Iohn 10. If there come any vnto you and bring not this doctrine receiue him not into your house neither bid him God speede V. Neither is there any succession that is free or can priuiledge them Vriah the high Priest descended by succession from Aaron builds contrary to Gods commandement an Altar according to the patterne of that of Damascus and sets it in the Temple x 2. King 16.11 according to all that the King Ahaz had sent from Damascus Caiphas hauing the succession with the Scribes and