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A13216 Redde debitum. Or, A discourse in defence of three chiefe fatherhoods grounded upon a text dilated to the latitude of the fift Commandement; and is therfore grounded thereupon, because 'twas first intended for the pulpit, and should have beene concluded in one or two sermons, but is extended since to a larger tract; and written chiefely in confutation of all disobedient and factious kinde of people, who are enemies both to the Church and state. By John Svvan. Swan, John, d. 1671. 1640 (1640) STC 23514; ESTC S118031 127,775 278

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See Mat. 10. and Luk. ch 2.8 10. ver 3. Then after them the seventie Disciples Christ likened the first to sheepe the second to lambes thereby declaring that there was a greater dignity in the one then in the other and that the first-sent had not onely the priority of time but of place and authoritie It was Christs owne act and therefore let no man presume not so much as to thinke of joyning together those whom Christ hath put asunder And so saith the ordinary glosse Sicut in Apostolis forma est Episcoporum sic in septuaginta Discipulis forma est Presbyterorum secundi ordinis as it is alledged by Stella and Aquinas It is also so understood by Theophilact and sundry others upon the tenth of Luke viz. that the seventy were inferiour to the twelve Some expresse it thus that the seventy in stead of Aarons sonnes should be amongst us as inferiour Priests others thus that the twelve were as the chiefe Captaines and Commanders in the Church And although in these ordinances it is as if Christ tooke patterne from the Law wherein all Priests were not equall yet is it nothing against the abrogation of the Law For the Ceremonies both might be and were abolished although the forme of the old governement bee still retained seeing that was a thing which pertained not so much to types and figures as to that 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or rule of doing things decently and in order for paritie is the next way to bring all things to an Anarchy and so no order unlesse there bee an order in confusion And without doubt when our Saviour said Dic Ecclesiae Tell it to the Church he had an eye to those whom hee had made cheife in authority above the rest And all this whilst Christ lived Next if we have respect to the times of the Apostles we shall find that Saint Paul though last called 2 Cor. 11.5 yet not a whit inferiour to the ●hi●fest Aposles by warrant from the holy Ghost appointed Timothie to bee a Bishop over all the Churches of Ephesus saying I besought thee to abide still at Ephesus when I went into Maced●nia 1 Tim. 1 3. to charge some that they teach no other doctrine At the end therefore of the second Epistle to Timothy it is said that it was written from Rome to Timotheus the first elected Bishop of Ephesus Tit. 1.5 And to Titus he also writeth thus For this cause I left thee still in Crete that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting and ordaine Elders in every City The end likewise of that Epistle witnesseth that it was directed to Titus the first elected Bishop of the Cretians And in the stories of the Church declaring the Acts and Monuments of ancient times thus we read Eusebius reporteth in his third book and fourth Chapter of Ecclesiasticall historie that Timothy was the first Bishop of the whole precinct of Ephesus in as ample manner as Titus was cheife Bishop of all the Churches of Crete 〈◊〉 2. c. 16. Hee also writeth that Saint Marke did institute the Churches of Alexandria lib. 2. c. 24. And in another place that Anianus did immediately succeed Marke the Apostle in the said Churches of Alexandria And againe Iulian the tenth had the Bishopricke of the same Churches 〈◊〉 5. c 9. and in his third booke and 20. chapter speaking of Saint Iohn When he returned saith he out of Pathmos to Ephesus at the request of others he visited the places bordering thereupon that he might ordaine Bishops constitute Churches and elect Clergie men by lots whom the Holy Ghost had assigned and comming to a City not farre of he cast his eyes upon that Bishop which was set over all the rest and unto him hee committed the tuition of a young Gentleman saying I doe earnestly commend this young man unto thee witnesse Christ and his Church Nay before this alledged of these Apostles we read in scripture of Philip one of the seven Deacons who being sent forth an Evangelist preached and baptized but neither might nor did ordaine others to doe the like For when the Apostles heard that Samaria had received the word of God they send thither Peter and Iohn because they had power of imposition of hands which Philip had not as is recorded in the eight chapter of the Acts of the Apostles Act. 8.14.17 Nor did Saint Paul but set downe rules how Bishops should behave themselves which were in vaine if the Church ought of right to bee without them But among all passages this may not slip namely that the seven Churches of Asiae had their Bishops even at the very time when the Spirit of God endeavoured to lay open the particulars of their faults And yet amongst all the things worthy of blame wherewith they were charged there is not a word against them for being governed by Bishops and surely that order had not escaped reprehension if it had not beene knowne to have beene of divine Institution And next the testimonies being thus cleare can any but a mad-man thinke that they are meant only of ordinary Parish Priests such as are now as if every such Priest should bee a Bishop Or if of other Bishops is there any colour for it that they should be Bishops onely in title without jurisdiction when one as we see is plainly said to have the governement of many Churches which by the Apostles were founded planted constituted or appointed Certainly the word Churches in the plurall number doth not import more Catholike Churches then one for there is but one and therfore by Churches is meant the severall plantation of Churches to be setled and governed by their Bishops some one having the cheife oversight of as many as were within the bounds of one precinct and some other of as many as were within the bounds and limits of another precinct For that word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 used by Eusebius is thus to be taken both the word Churches formerly mentioned as also the grammaticall signification thereof doe fully witnesse Of which Scapula in his Lexicon writeth after this manner namely that it signifieth Accolarum conventus et Accolatus sacraque vicinia And therefore may bee taken for many Churches within any limited Precinct or jurisdiction namely for a Diocesse either large or small which is but as a great and generall Parish Mr. Seld. hist of Tithes c. 6 page 80. the lesser being since called by the same name because they limit the people unto which particular Church they are to go and unto which to pay their tythes Thus were the first beginnings The imitations continuations and inlargements were afterwards and built upon the same grounds when as the number of beleevers increased there was a more generall division of Congregations into a greater number of particular parishes Yet so as they were to have their dependance on the mother Churches first erected and to be governed by every such Bishop
as was the Bishop of their bounds and limits yea and also according to the said increase or growth of Churches and consequently of Diocesses it was held agreeable to the divine institution of this order to have not onely Arch-bishops as well as Bishops but Patriarchs as well as either of both that thereby all things might be the better ordered in the Church of God And albeit the Church of Rome by the subtiltie of Sathan turned this honie into poyson yet what is that against the divine right of the Churches Hierarchy I like not to loath my meate because some have surfetted nor to abhorre my drinke because many a disordered person hath been drunken No more may * Or as the H●erar●hy by of Angels is not to be rejected because the T●●ll is fallen no more may the order of Bishops be therefore despised because the Pope is indeed degenerate Irenaeus lib 3. cap. 3. Romes arrogancie cause us to contemne or sight against Christs ordinance Christian Emperours even in generall Councels have benenursing Fathers to it and upon all occasions devoute and pious reverencers of it The whole strcame of religious and holy fathers had nothing to say against it For all the Orthodoxe generally beleeved that they even in this followed the divine institution and Apostolicall practise of what Christ had first founded Irenaeus saith in his third booke and 3. chapter against heresies Traditionem Apostolorum in toto mundo manifestam in Ecclesia adest perspicere omnibus qui vera velint audire et habemus annumerare eos qui ab Apostolis instituti sunt Episcopi in Ecclesi●s et successores corum usque ad nes Capr. lib. 4. epist 9. seu edit recent epist 69. And in Saint Cyprian Vnde schismata et haereses obortae sunt et oriuntur nisi dum Episcopus qui unus est et Ecclesiae praeest superba quorundam praesumptione contemnitur Et home dignatione Dei honoratus ab indignis hominibus judicatur That is whereof do Schismes and heresies spring but of this that the Bishop who is * Which he meaneth of but one Bishop in a Diocesse one and governeth the Church is through the proud and arrogant presumption of some contemned and set at nought and being a man honoured by the appointment of God is judged of unworthy men And in Saint Austin thus Nemo ignorat saith hee Episcopos salvatorem Ecclesiis instituisse Aug. quaest ex Novo Pest Tom. a quell 97 sub sinem Ipse enim prius quam in coelos ascenderet imponens manum Apostolis ordinavit eos Episcopos Meaning that although Christ had formerly put a difference betweene one Minister and another yet that there might be a more full instalment of the Apostles into their office of Episcopall authority he laid his hands upon them before he would ascend away from them as is expressed in Luke 24.50.51 From whence they were onely to expect till the day of Pentecost and* then they were compleatly authorized See Act 1.8 had power sufficient and might put it in practise even to the ordaining of Elders and Bishops as occasion required The laying on of hands appertained then to them Acts 8.14.17 and not to them onely but to whomsoever else by vertue of their power the office of a Bishop was conveighed according to that of Saint Paul to Timothie Lay hands upon no man suddenly neither bee partaker of other mens sinnes 1 Tim. 5.22 The opinion therefore of Aerius was reckoned for an heresie because he put no difference betweene the Bishops and other Presbyters For although every Bishop be a Presbyter or Priest yet every Priest is not a Bishop Bishops may create Priests and make them spirituall Fathers to beget children unto Christ but Priests cannot make Fathers or create Bishops For how can it be saith * Alledged by Saravia de divers Minist grid c. 22. vide etiam A. quin. sum 2.2 q. 184 Art 6. Epiphanius that a Priest should create qui potestatatem imponendi manus non habet who hath no power of imposition of hands Thus Epiphanius And so also Austin before whom by many yeares was Ignatius that holy Martyr of Christ who writing to those of Smyrna hath these words * Laici subjecti sunto Diacoms Diaconi Presbyteris Presbytert Episcopo Episcopus Christo vt Chrislus Patri Ignat. Epist ad Smyrn 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 c. That is let lay-men bee subject to the Deacons the Deacons to the Priests the Priests to a Bishop and a Bishop to Christ as Christ to his Father Tertullian also as Ireneus formerly mentioned accounts them for heretickes who could not shew when their Church began or declare how it was founded by some among the Apostles which hee knew they could not for sine Matre Tertul. de praescript cap. 32. cap. 42. sine sede extorres vagantur et Ecclesias non habent And Ambrose explaining that place in the fourth Chapter to the Ephesians ver 11. saith In Episcopo omnes ordines sunt quia primus sacerdos est Saint Hierome I thinke of all the Fathers speakes the most sparingly of these things Hier. in Titum cap. 1. in some place seeming to affirme that it was an humane invention to put a difference in authority betweene the Bishops and other Priests or Elders But I wonder much at him that he should tread so neere upon the heeles of Aerius especially seeing hee else-where confesseth contra Lucife●●…nos that the Church consists of many degrees the highest whereof he endeth in the Bishops And in another place where hee expoundeth those words in the 44. Psalme namely that in the stead of Fathers thou shalt have children thus he speaketh Fuerint O Ecclesia Apostoli Patres tui quia ipsi te genuerunt Nunc autem quia illi recesserunt a mundo habes pro his Episcopos filios See also his second booke against Iovin an To which let mee adde that of Saint Bernard Vae tibi si praees et non prodes sed vae gravius si quia praeesse metuis prodesse refugis I shall need to say no more for if this order had beene against Gods ordinance neither would the Apostles allowed it nor the seven Churches of Asia escaped the rebukes of the holy Ghost for using it nor yet the godly fathers at all embraced it Let none therefore deceive themselves for it is more then manifest that there ever was a difference An inequalitie was laid even in the first foundation of the Church All Priests have idem Ministerium sed diversam potestatem For although it bee that as all are bound to feed the flocke of Christ there is no difference otherwise then it pleaseth God to give diversity of gifts Or although the Ministeriall offices of one are as truly ministeriall as if they were done by another because both have an equalitie of Priesthood Or although in respect of the generall service of Christ as
in the dispensation of his word and mysteries Bishops and inferiour Priests whether they bee Doctors or others are all Brethren and fellow Presbyters yet in the power of governement equall authority belongs not to them nor ever did since first the Churches of Christ began to be planted One in a certaine Sermon of his upon Acts the 15.36 doth thus declare it namely that although a Bishop doth not differ from an ordinary Pastour Quoad virtutem Sacerdotij yet there is and must be a difference Quoad potentiam jurisdictionis And againe although a Bishop and an Arch-Bishop differ not in potestate ordinis yet there is a difference in potestate regiminis SECTION III. WHat then shall become of those annuall offices of Lay-Elders which the Genevian Factours would put upon us I find no such thing in Scripture as these men dreame of All the Elders there mentioned which have any thing to doe in the Church and appertaine to the governement thereof are no silent or unpreaching Governours In Gods booke we have neither example for instance that ever there was nor precept for direction that ever there may be any such Lay-Eldership And although they alledge that saying of Saint Paul to Timothy The Elders that rule well are worthy of double honour 1 Tim. 5.17 especially they that labour in the word and doctrine yet can it be no good consequence to argue from thence that there were some Elders in the Church which taught nothing For doe we not all know that it is one thing to teach another to labour or be painefull in teaching It may be granted that although all be in some measure painfull yet some againe have beene more painfull than others If either their constitution of body yeares gifts or carefull using of them were such that they could both rule well and be painfull also in teaching they are worthy not only of honour but of double honour So that out of these words can bee collected no such distinction as they doe imagine of preaching Elders and governing Elders which are no Preachers The office then of Eldership which the scripture mentions must be in a lawfull Minister and not in a Lay-man out of orders 1 Pet. 5.1.2 Saint Peter was a Preacher yea and a chiefe Elder Hee chargeth therefore other Elders to feed their flocks The word which the Scripture useth is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 an appellation pertinent to all Priests as being 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 fellow Presbyters although not of equall power as hath beene shewed Act. 20.17.28 Saint Paul also chargeth the Elders of Ephesus to feed the Church of Christ which he hath purchased with his owne blood And to Titus hee giveth charge T it 1.59 that he appoint Elders in every citie shewing that by these he meaneth such as must be able to exhort with wholesome doctrine and to convince them which say against it not one word being mentioned of Elders out of orders to be in the stead of Bishops to take upon them the governing of the Church Which last testimony puts into my mind that speech of the thrice famous man Erasmus E●asmus in an Epistle to Iohn Alasco prefixed to the workes of Ambrose viz. That if wee had more Bishops like vnto Ambrose we should have more Emperours like unto Theodosius And t is as true likewise of inferiour Priests The sitter for their office the better for the people For what is there which brings more harme then either ignorance or want of courage They who be tainted with either of these are rather led by the people then the people by them For either they cannot or they dare not be what they ought in their holy functions SECTION IIII. BUt now I mention that holy Father Ambrose Quest some perhaps may propound it as a question whether the said father doth not in a certaine place of his writings viz. where he expounds that of Saint Paul to Timothy Rebuke not an Elder c. give some allowance to this office of Lay-elderships Nothing at all Hee giveth I confesse Answ some light concerning those officers belonging to the Church of England which wee call by the name of Sworne-men Gardians or wardens of the Church into whose hands the care of Church provisions is committed both in the providing of things wanting in repayring of things decayed and in the trustie keeping of things had These are those men who present to the Arch-bishop Bishop Arch-deacon or their Chancellours the faults and disorders done in their parish against those Articles to which they are sworne against the Canons and against his Majesties Lawes Ecclesiasticall and so the Arch-bishoppe Bishoppe Arch-deacon or their officers proceed according to the information of the said Wardens of every such Parish For albeit the love of monie rather then of vertue and reformation bee ready among some under-officers to send out the Apparatour as a close spie into the Countrey yet we know that the Canons of our Church doe in no wise tollerate such indirect courses Whereupon in the 138. Canon thus wee read that They meaning Aparatours shall not take upon them the office of Promoters or informers for the Court. Which in some sort agreeth also to that of Saint Ambrose saying that there is nothing done in the Church without those Elders of which hee speaketh because such disorders as are proceeded against according to the tenour of their informations are legally proceeded against and justly punished there being an oath taken for the discharge of this office in a pious and conscionable way Thus it is with us And thus also or not far otherwise it was in the dayes of old St. Ambrose complained of the want of it and we doe well to retaine still these usefull footings appertaining to it Onely sometimes we have a double fault committed The one in the choise of those annual officers The other in that too high prerogative which some men give them above their Minister First of all in many country parishes the lowest meanest of the people are chosen although they be but yong and ignorant boies in comparison of others whereas they ought of right to be grave sober and able Seniors if not for yeeres yet for parts who both know their office and are not afraid to do it And yet be they whom they will either in this office for the Church or in that of Constable for the common-weale if they would or could but tell how to make conscience of an oath there would not come in so many omnia bene's when there be Multa passim mala Howbeit I do not mention this to incourage the envious busie practises of some ill disposed officers but only to stir up the negligent to a more carefull consideration of the wrong done to themselves through their slight regarding of knowne evills And next as for that exaltation which some men give them t is fit they have all that of right belongeth to them but to be exalted
will be carefull to avoid Nor againe doth that of our Saviour in Luke 22.25 denie the titles of civill honours to men of the Church Titles of civill honour are not their denied for it doth not as shall appeare forbid honour and authority or the titles thereunto belonging but ambitious seeking of it or them together with that tyrannicall using of it which the wicked kings of the Nations through the conceit of their owne greatnesse and soothings of their flatterers proudly take upon them And that this is the meaning of that Text appeareth by these reasons First because Christ acknowledged that the title Rabbi which signifieth a Master an honourable person or a man that is eminent by reason of his many dignities and places of honour that he holdeth was a title of right belonging to him Hee disclaimed it not but embraced it Ye call mee Master and Lord and ye say well for so I am Iohn 13.13 Secondly Iohn Baptist was called Master and not refused it Luke 3.12 Thirdly although Saint Paul and Barnabas (*) Act. 14.15 denied to be worshipped with Divine honour yet when Paul and Silas were reverenced with civill honour and called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Lords by the Master of the Prison they made no scruple of it but onely sayd Beleeve in the Lord Iesus and thou shalt be saved Acts 16.30 Fourthly the change of Abram to Abraham and of Sarai to Sarah witnesse no lesse for their names being thus changed were not onely a token of confirming the promise but also an honourable favour which God himselfe vouchsafed to them Dr. Willet ex Mercer in Gen. for their greater grace and respect among those with whom they lived as was seene when Abraham communed with the Children of Heth who answering sayd unto him Heare us my Lord thou art a mighty Prince among us Gen. 23.6 And God also told Abimilech that he was a Prophet Gen. 20.7 Fiftly because when Obadiah met Elias he fell on his face and sayd Art thou my Lord Elias He answered yea Goe and tell thy Lord behold Elias is here 1 Kings 18.7.8 Sixtly because Elisha accepted of the like title as it is in the 2 Kings 4.16 In which regard Beza noted not amisse upon these words in Mat. 23.8 Bee not yee called Rabbi c. Ne vocemini id est Ne ambiatis Bee not ye called that is doe not ambitiously seeke after that title or pride your selves in it for otherwise our Sauiour doth not accept against any either for not denying the titles of their office or for not refusing the honour due unto them And here an end of this Section SECT II. THE next thing that followeth is That the people give eare and come where they may heare the Doctrines rebukes and exhortations of their ghostly Fathers For though they be men whom the Lord hath assigned to this holy office yet men to whom hee hath conveighed a peculiar grace 2 Tim. 1.6 ibid. which the Orthodox and right do so stirre up that when they preach they preach not themselves but Iesus Christ 2 Cor. 4.5 Heb. 5.4 They have power to officiate but they take it not it is given them before they have it It came to those of Christs schoole from Christ himselfe but was not to end with them for there is a * building which cannot be perfected without it And being therefore appointed for it Ephes 4.12 Mat. 28. ult it hath beene conveighed ever since by the imposition of hands to such as are not otherwise any lawfull Priests of God And finally that care may be had in the conveighance hereof It is the counsell of Saint Paul to Timothie 1 Tim. 5.22 That he lay hands upon no man suddenly Thus then we have it and are by this meanes become persons sacred and have authoritie to deale in holy things We blesse in the name of him that blesseth The dispensation of the Word and Sacraments is committed to us We have power to binde Mat. 18.18 2 Cor. 5.20 wee have power to loose wee are Ambassadours for Christ as though God did beseech you by us The message is from Heaven as delivering to you God's blessed will out of his holy Word And therefore to be received 1 Thess 2.13 not as the word of men but as the Word of God So that as we if we love the Lord Ioh. 21.15.16 will feede his Lambes and Sheepe In like manner ye if ye despise not Christ Luke 21.16 Acts 7.51 nor resist the holy Ghost will be content to hearken to the words of those by whom he speaketh For this he doth hee speaketh by us though not by immediate inspiration as some phantastickes fondly dreame yet by our rightly dividing that Word of truth which is properly and indeed the Word of God Aug. cont Epist Parmenioni l. 2. c. 11. In cujus praedicatione spiritus Sanctus operatur as Saint Austine speaketh So that though our Sermons ought to have no greater credit then they can gaine unto themselves by their agreement with the Scriptures yet not dissenting from them they are truely and indeed the Truth and Doctrine of God and though not his Word by immediate inspiration yet the Word of God in a secundarie sence as being the sober explication and application of some such part or portion of the Word as we then pitch upon In which regard the Preachers of it are Co-workers or jont-labourers with God as even the Apostles were For though we cannot bee compared with them in worthinesse of grace and vertue yet in likenesse of office and Ministerie we may and must And indeed t is a perpetuall Sanction Mal. 2.7 that the Priests lippes are to preserve knowledge and that the people seeke the Law at their mouthes for even in this they are the messengers of the Lord of Hosts So that in what way so ever they convey or give notification of the object of faith which is the Word unto the people whether it be by reading or otherwise it is to be of more esteem then when t is done by any other Which I doe not note to deterre Lay-people from reading of the Scripture but to shew the difference that is betweene their reading and ours as also to signifie that no Scripture is of private interpretation 1 Pet. 1.20 as Saint Peter hath declared And now to the amplifying of all this thus I proceed The Lord's Day or Sunday is God's chiefe Schoole-day wherein God's people must come to the Church for that 's his Schoole-house wherein among other duties to bee done they must heare his Word for that 's their lesson Some be Truants and care not for comming Others be Recusants and may not come to joyn themselves with us A third sort be Schismaticks and will not come except where they affect and when they please And last of all others be indifferent and will sometimes come but in respect of the end their comming and hearing is
shall shew thee the sentence of judgement Upon which ground David setting the Kingdome in better order then in processe of time it was growne into 1 Chro. 23.4 appointed sixe thousand Levites to bee Indges and Magistrates over the people and beyond Iordan towards the West 1 Chron. 26.30 a thousand and seven hundred both to serve God in the place of Levites and also to serve the King in offices of State ibid. verse 32. Hee also set two thousand and seven hundred to bee over the Tribes of Ruben Gad and Manasseth to heare and determine in causes both Ecclesiasticall and Civill The like also did Iehosophat in his reformation of the Church and Common-weale 2 Chron. 19.5.8.11 Ezra was a Priest Ezr. c. 7. 8. yet who but he that first of all after the Captivitie ordered all matters both for the Church Nehe. c. 1. and State Nehemiah came not up untill 13. yeares after for Nehemiah was in the twentieth and Ezra in the 7. yeare of Artaxerxes Zorobabel I grant was long before but he did little or nothing for the reducing of things into a forme of government or suppose he did Ezra we are sure did a great deale more Neither was it 1 Sam. c. 2.18 c. 7.15.16 but that even before all these Samuel as a Priest ministered before the Lord in a linnen Ephod and as a Iudge did ride his circuit every yeare over all the land yea and in the daies of Saul although he was the annointed King yet Samuel ruled joyntly with him so long as they lived each with other or at the least was such a Counseller to him as that after hee was dead and buried he seeks to heare what he would advise or answer standing then destitute of such direction as he had usually received from him Nay sooner yet for Phineas was sent Ambassadour to proclaim war against the Rubenites the Gadites the half tribe of Manasses Iosh 22.12.3 The Priests overthrew the Citie Iericho Iosh 6. Nor did they afterwards but sound their Trumpets and bid the battell in the warre of Ahiiah against Ieroboam 2 Chron. 13.12.14 The land also is divided among the Tribes by Eleazar and Ioshua Numb 34.17 A thousand likewise of every Tribe is sent out to war against the Midianites under the conduct of Phineas Numb 31.6 And in the same warre the spoyles were divided among the Souldiers by Moses and Eleazar the Priest and the cheife Fathers of the Congregation verse 26. The people also were numbred by Moses and Eleazar in the plaine of Moab as they had been numbred formerly by Moses and Aaron in the wildernesse of Sinai Numb 26.63.64 From which testimonies it is plaine and manifest that some such Priests as the King thinks fit may when he pleaseth be lawfully employed in civill affaires or offices and may even thus be honoured as were those Priests of old And whereas some object that arguments drawne from the old Testament An objection answered prove nothing now under the New it is answered First that they may as well deny the arguments taken from thence against the Popes authority and domineering power over Christian Kings and Princes as denie these arguments for proofe of that civill honour which is thus given to the Ministers of the Gospell And therefore it is not love but envie which would seeme to bolster out things with such new Divinitie Secondly the Ministers of the Gospell as one hath well observed may with more convenience be employed in civill offices then those Priests under the Law whose time is not now taken up as then it was with attendance on the daily sacrifices great number of feasts solemnities and such like occasions by which their leisure was lesse to heare civill matters then now to the Minister under the Gospell Thirdly the Ministers of the Gospell have succeeded in a place of the Levites and looke what in that kinde was lawfull for them to doe is not unlawfull now especially seeing these employments pertained not to things typicall figurative or ceremoniall And fourthly although Christ and his Apostles were never thus employed yet is that nothing against our tenet For who made me a judge over you sayth Christ Intimating Luke 12.14 that unlesse the supreame Magistrate shall assigne Clergie-men to such offices they may not meddle with them But had the Church and Common-wealth been both one then it had beene as lawfull as in the daies of old which appointment or assignation was never like to bee so long as the Church was in the Kingdome of heathen tyrants Certain it is that when the Emperours became Christians some men of the Church were thus employed And although the condition of the Ministers of Christ differed not in this from that of the Levites yet it could not shew it selfe till then Examples are not wanting Theod. lib. 2. c. 30. Theodorit makes mention of one Iames Bishop of * Called also Nysibit Antioch in Mygdonia who shined with Apostolicall grace and yet was both Bishop and governour of the aforesaid Citie Or if this testimonie be obscure see another Saint Ambrose was twice employed in the office of an Ambassadour by the Emperour Valentinian and not without good successe Socrates also makes mention of one Marutha Socrat. lib. 7. c. ● Bishop of Mesopotamia whom the Emperour of Rome sent in an Ambassage to the King of Persia which employment likewise proved good both to the Church and Common-weale Neither can this bee called an inuasion of the offices of the civill Magistrate or be contrary to the rule of any auncient Canon when it is done by the consent and appointment of the chiefe Magistrate as in the lawes of Iustinian alledged by Saravia is apparent Lib. de honore Prasulibus et Presbyt debito cap. 20. And although the the Popes lawes have decreed the contrary yet it is not fit sayth one that we which are a reformed Church and have long since abandoned the Popes authority Dr Dove of Church govern pag. 40. should now forsake God and the examples of the holy Bible to follow the Pope and his Canons Fiftly and lastly Saint Paul thought it lawfull to spend his spare time in the worke of his hands But if the necessitie of Domesticke affaires may excuse a Pastour of the Church for so doing then much more may they be excused for doing such offices when the King thinkes it fit that they bee called thereunto as shall benefit the common wealth wherein they live Neither doth this appertaine to the entangling of our selves with the things of this World For that text where this is mentioned striketh at those whose covetous hands and greedie hearts are so glewed to the earth for the gathering to themselves a private estate that they forget every such thing as may tend to the good either of the Church or State wherein they live which every good Christian and therefore every upright man of God