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A25601	An Answer to the Lord George Digbies apology for himself published Jan 4, Anno Dom. 1642 put in the great court of equity otherwise called the court of conscience, upon the 28th of the same moneth / by Theophilus Philanax Gerusiphilus Philalethes Decius.	Decius, Theophilus Philanax Gerusiphilus Philalethes.; Bristol, George Digby, Earl of, 1612-1677. Lord George Digbie's apology for himself.; Bristol, George Digby, Earl of, 1612-1677. Two letters, the one from the Lord Digby, to the Queens Majestie ; the other from Mr. Thomas Elliot.; Elliot, Thomas.	1642 (1642)	Wing A3421; ESTC R8961	70,751	74

that a man may sooner lose himself then save you that hath the courage to attempt it by going against the stream yet I have so much compassion of your undeserved sufferings in this matter except in that point of discretion I have already noted that I am resolved to adventure my se●● in hope your Lordship will not be wanting either to ●●●r selfe or to me in case your Lordship should chance to see me carryed down in another as violent a channell or it may be in the same for doing my good will to help you Which that I may do with the lesse hazard and more hope of successe I must first give the world notice of an error of your Lordships in this matter of Episcopacy from which all the other you have since committed in that businesse have bin derived although I observe that as well in that Speech as in your present Apology your Lordship hath studiously concealed that mistaken principle which hath bin so fertile of other mistakes in you and of you And that is the opinion that Episcopacy was erected by the Apostles and consequently in your Lordships judgement so authorized Iure Divino that it may not be altered whereof your Lordship was once so confident that you wisht it might be made a part of the Catechisme of our Church if I do not misremember For it stands so in my memory ever since I had a cursory sight of the Letters which pass'd between your Lordship and your Cousin Sir Kellam Digby having at that time observed it an hyperbollicall expression which in matters of Religion it is not alwayes safe to use If your Lordship be still of the same judgement which I hope you are not let me presume humbly to advise you to resume the study of both those points by an impartiall perusall of the Bookes have been partly written and partly set forth in the liberty of these last yeers which I am therefore in hope will be sufficient to alter your mind in that matter because they have done mine in the former which is the fairer of them who came to the reading of the Arguments against it with as much prejudice as your Lordship can do having contracted it in part by the great reverence I ever did and do yet bear to the great wisdom learning and piety of Mr. Hooker whom I knew and heard when I was a boy and with whom some friends of mine who in their time were in the number of the ablest men of this Kingdom for wisdom and learning had extraordinary friendship and were also of the same judgement with him In part by the like reverence I bore to Doctor Downham since Bishop in Ireland who put forth a Sermon to shew the Jurisd●ction of Bishops over Presbyters was instituted by the Apostles when I was a young man at Cambridge where he was before that in great and good fame but chiefly by the presumption that the Addresses make at the foot of the Epistles to Timothy and Titus as B●shops were of Saint Pauls own writing because I found them in my Greek Testament For if that be first admitted there is some appearance of their having beene Diocesans by the authority thereby given them to appoint and rule over Presbyters in the Churches committed to their charge But if this be an abuse as I have been convinced that it is since I returned with an hoary head to a new examination of this Book controversie when the sword was taken up to decide it in Scotland then there will be no firme ground for a Diocesan Bishop found in the whole Scripture but much to the contrary as hath been learnedly proved by Master Bayne that succeeded Mr. Perkins at Cambridge in the Answer he made to Doctor Downham written soon after which I never saw till these last yeers brought it to light but hath bin the Treasury out of which the Scriblers of this licentious age have stollen almost all they have of worth to which they have added little besides unfit language which they had not from him whose name I cannot suffer to passe my pen without this Elogy that he was the most accomplished Preacher I ever yet heard in all my life having heard very many of many Nations and the man that to mee seemed most in Heaven while he prayed that my eyes ever saw I beseech your Lordship to take the paines to read his short Tract upon my recommendation and that of Gersom Bucer upon the same subject not despising the rest which have shewed themselves on either side in this controversie since some of our Prelates have not been ashamed indicere bellum Episcopale and then to do me the honour to let me know whether you persevere in that you wrote to your Cousin Sir Ken●lme for I have cause to believe it is a tenet set on foot in our Church at the beginning of the raign of of our late Soveraign of famous memory not because it was believed by them that directed others to broach it among us but out of a politique design wherein the Jesuits had an unseen hand invented first out of fear that his Majesty who had abolished Episcopacy in Scotland might at one time or other bee ingaged to doe the like in this Kingdom and when they found it tooke with his Majesty then imployed further to work upon his pious and bountifull heart for the reintroducing of Episcopacy in that Kingdom an Act of Royall magnificence and princely piety and if your Lordships opinion of the necessity of Episcopacy in all Churches as founded in divine right can be maintained at the height as no doubt was powerfully instilled into his Majesty an Act as well pleasing to God as glorious before men And in the raigne of the King our Soveraign that now is whom God long preserve it is evident that the same Doctrine hath been imployed to the ingaging of his Maje●ty notwithstanding all the reluctancy of his most eminent clemency to undertake a War against our brethren and his most loyall subjects of that his native Countrey with an upright heart For admitting your Lordships Tenet which it is manifest was infused into the King as an undoubted truth there could be no question of the justice of that War on his Majesties part of which I forbear to make any further mention least it should prove a controvension of the Act of oblivion although I humbly conceive there is something besides exceeding necessary to be thought upon by His Maiesty and that Kingdom and this seeing God Almighty is not bound by that act O Lord whether do we run through the darknesse that is in us if we once depart but a little from the light of thy holy word And where can we stay our wandring steps When both the war with this and the troubles in that Kingdom were through his Maiesties goodnesse and wisdom at length sweetly composed by an utter and eternall abolition of Episcopacy there as Antichristian in the opinion of that Church yet

corruptions of judgement Mr. Speaker I do before God discharge my selfe to the utmost of my power L. Dig. Speech April 21. 1641. (a) The same night after the Messengers were gone certaine information was brought to us that the same day the Earle of Essex had drawn his Forces with great store of Ordnance out of London toward us upon which a Councell of War b●ing present and we having there considered upon debate Our present Condition That being already almost surrounded by his Forces some at Windsor some at Kingston and some at Acton if we suffered the remainder to pos●esse Brainceford we should be totally hemmd in and our Army deprived of all convenience of either moving or subsisting yet how necessary soever it appeared we could not obtain our own consent to advance towards Brainceford and either prepossesse it or dispossesse them of it till we had satisfied our selves that it was as lawfull as necessary and fully wayed all that not onely Reason but Malice it s●lf which we knew to be very watchfull upon our actions could object against it We considerd first that it could not reasonably bee esteemed an Aversion from Peace and an Intention to interrupt the Treaty then in expectation since on the other side we had cause to believe by the former rejection of our offers of Treaty when we were supposed to bee in no condition of strength That if wee would not thus preserve our selves from being so encompassed as to come into their powers the very possibility of a Treaty would immediatly vanish Wee considered next that much lesse could it be interpreted any breach of faith since willingnesse to receive Propositions of Treaty was never held to be a suspension of Arms Since otherwise we must b●cause a mention of a Treatie had been once made by the same Logick have been bound not to hinder them to encompasse us on all parts to Colebrook Towns end Since no word to that purpose of any suspension was in our Answer Nay since in that by wishing their Propositions might be hastened to prevent the Inconveniences which would intervene we implyed That by this Arms were not suspended And since their own Votes of proceeding vigorously notwithstanding the Petition and their now actions in sending after their Messengers great store of Forces with Ordnance so neer to us having before gift us in on all other parts and sent Men and Ordnance to Kingston after the safe Conduct asked of us implyed the same The Declaration of the Kings true Intentions in advancing to Brainceford pag. 4. Levit. 5. verse ●● 10. (a) Cicero in Orat. ad Qu●ri post reditum Pro me praesente senatu● hominumque praeterea vigenti nullia vestem mutaverunt Paulo post Quum omnes boni non recusarent quin vel pro me vel mecum p●●irent armis decertare pro nica salute nolui quod vnicerc vinci lactuosum reipublicae ●erc putavi vide Relique (a) The Resolving of conscience by Henry Ferne Doct D. Sermon of Ier. Buroughs ●ntituled The Lord of Hosts c. New Plea for the Parliament And the Reserved Man resolved So resolved by him that if he will keep a good conscience and observe his principles then as he hath put the case and pleaded for the Parliament the Reserved Man must a●●●st the King which I conceive would please the pleader worse then his Newtrallity (b) Fuller Answer to a Treatise written by Doctor Ferne wherein the originall frame fundamentalls of this government of England togeth●r with these two Texts of Scripture Rom. 13. 1. 1. Pet. 2. 13 are sufficiently cleared (a) Francis●ord Verulam (b) The Scots Declaration of August 3. 1642 printed Sep. 1. by the order of our Parliam together with an Extract of the Acts of the secret Councell of Scotland Aug. 18. (a) That if it stand with order of Parliaments wee may desire that there may be a starding ●ommittee of certain Members of both Houses who with a number of su●h Learned Ministers ●as the Houses shal nominate for assistants may take into consideration all the Grievances springing from the misgovernment of the Church and advise of the best way to settle pe●ce and satisfaction in the government thereof to the comfort of all good Christians and of all good Commonwealths men Lord Digbies Speech concerning Bishops (a) No wood is neerer to rottennesse then some that seemeth to shine (c) Me thinks the vengeance of the Prelates hath beene so laid as ●f 't were meant no generation no degree no complexion of mankind should escape it Was there a man of a nice and tender conscience Him have they afflicted with scandall in Adiaphoris imposing on him those things as necessary which he thinks unlawfull and they themselves knew to be but indifferent Was there a man of a legall conscience that made the establishments by Law the measure of his Religion Him have they n●ttled with innovations with fresh introductions to Popery Was there a man of a me●k and humble spirit Him have they trampled to dirt in their pride Was there a man of a proud and arrogant nature Him have they borest with indignation as their superlative insolence above him● Was there a man peaceably affected studious of the quiet and tranquility of his Country● Their incendiariship hath plagued him Was there a man faithfully addicted to the right of the Crown loyally affected to the Kings Supremacy How hath he been galled by their new oath a direct Covenant against it Was there a man tenacious of the liberty and propriety of the Subject Have they not set forth books or Sermons o● Canons destructive to them all Was there a man of a pretty sturdy conscience that would not bl●nch for a little Their pernicious oath hath made him sensible and wounded or I fear prepared him for the Devill Was there a man that durst m●tter against their insolences Hee may enquire for his luggs they have b●en within the Bishops Vi●●tation as if they would not onely derive their brandishment of the spirituall Sword from Saint Peter but of the materiall one too and the right to cut off ears Lord Digbies Speech touching Bishops (f) M. Hamp●●n which Testimony I give him meerly for love of truth having beene much disobliged by him in my owne particular (g) Considerations upon the present State of the Kingdom dedicated to the City of London in December 1642. (a) Francis Lord V●rulant