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A18914 A chronological discourse touching, 1 The Church. 2 Christ. 3 Anti-Christ. 4 Gog & Magog. &c. The substaunce whereof, was collected about some 10. or 11. yeares since (as may be gathered by an epistle prefixed before a tractate, called, The visible Christian) but now digested into better order; and first published, by the author himselfe, H. Cl. Clapham, Henoch. 1609 (1609) STC 5336; ESTC S108005 72,787 116

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instruction of his Mother the Rauens of the Valley picke it out and the young Eagles eate it Haue we seene the eye of iudgement put out of so many Schismatikes and will we not reuerence before Gods iudgement and take heed of Going out as our Sauiour premonished CHAP. viij Further Considerations touching Bishops and Deacons SAint Paul being to instruct Timothj an Euangelist and yet for a time after the Arch or chiefe-Chiefe-Bishop of the Church at Ephesus as Titus was in Creete hee in the third Chapter layeth out the Qualification which is requirable in a true Christian Minister And this he doth first in a description of the Bishop secondly of a Deacon For a Bishop in English Super-intendent Superuisor or Ouer-seer vnder which tearme is contayned also the tearme Elder the first arguing the Dutie of his place the other the Grauitie of his yeares beseeming such a place for in the auncient Church our Mother none serued at the Alter till he were aged 30. yeares as our Sauiour would not enter vpon the publique exercise of Preaching till he began to be about 30. And then at 50. they were discharged the business of the Alter but meane time liued honourably of the Alter for this Bishop he sayth thus generally in the first verse That is a faythfull saying If any man orégetaj do appe●ite Episcopés a Bishopricke Epethumej he mindeth ●alou ergou a good or faire or commendable Worke. Intimating thus much that as it is lawfull to appetite an Episcopall place so the place is not more honourable then the execution of duties onerable that is burdensome In the second place he comes to his qualification touching which he propounds many particulars some Affirmatiue telling what he must be some Negatiue saying what he must not bee In the dispatch whereof he propoundes vnto vs a more perfect Bishop then euer Cicero did his Orator For his Minde hee must be apt to teach and no Neophyt c. For his Body he must be Kosmion composite ornate neat not slouingly and therein a true Micro-cosmos The translation Modest doth not fully expresse it And in this word there may be reference to the description of Leui●s ministrie who were not to be mutilate bursten c. For Oiconomie he must be abled to gouerne in his owne house c. In a word he must be vnreprooueable vncheckable not onely of these that be within that is of the Church but also of these that be without Mee thinkes now I heare the Schismatique euomating this Obiection True he must be such a one but no Minister in England is such a one therefore no Mister of England a true minister I answere first by Retortion but no minister of Anabaptisme Brownisme Smithisme c. is such a Minister therefore no true Minister of them Secondly I answere by Explication thus In English wee vse the words Must and Ought indifferently for the same yet somtimes we by the word Must do inioyne a thing of absolute necessitie when as againe by the word Ought wee intend a duetie owing but not of absolute necessity to be done The Greeke word Dêj a word of one Syllable hath as large vse wherevpon some haue answered that the Apostle setteth out what a man the Minister ought to bee not what he needes must bee But this answere seemes vnto mee ouer-weake to vnderprop a crazie-conscience The impersonall Dêj as it comes of Dêo to bind so in this place it importeth that whereto the Minister is bound and tyed by the very law of God himselfe For as our Sauiour enioyneth in Math. 5. euery Christian to be perfect as the heauenly Father is perfect and yet so perfect none in the militant Church can be no not in that one particular of louing an enemie which there is pressed so here the like for a Christian Minister The consideration wherof caused the Apostle Paul to cry out and say Who is sufficient for these thinges Christian and Christian Minister therefore in this case are continually to runne vnto Christ and in him to seeke vp their perfection Ierome therefore very iudiciously and truely calleth it The Priestes Looking-glasse which beholding thereby shal be occasioned Dolere ad deformitatem gaudere ad pulchritudinem to sorrow for wantes as also to reioyce in graces proportionable Hereupon it necessarily followeth that as in a true visible Christian we considerd what was Essentially required to the true being thereof so must we as necessarily consider what tendeth to the Very being of a true Chrstian Minister That is done in a very few wordes For as there must first be in him that which makes him a true Christian so secondly there must be in him somewhat besides whereby hee becommeth also a true Minister And that is these two thinges Calling and Aptnesse to teach For the Calling seeing he is but an ordinarie Minister an ordinarie forme of Calling sufficeth and that can onely be had of the Church To such a calling appertayneth 1. Nomination of the partie 2. Election 3. Approbation of the partie 4. Ordination ¶ To Nominate and Elect if the Lesser may do it then the Greater much more may doe it In the Church of Ierushalem was generally so learned a people most being Iewes euer trayned vp of Children in the Scriptures as was Timothj the sonne of a Iewesse as no maruaile though the Election of Matthias and the 7. Deacons were committed vnto them specially hauing so many faire markes to shoote at as were the 70. Disciples and themselues also ready to further such Election ¶ For Approbation and Ordination that remayneth in other persons greater then the former And thereupon it was that not onely these of Ierushalems Church so elected were brought to the Apostles for Approbation of their choyse and Ordination to the worke but also S. Paul left Timothj in Ephesus and Titus in Creet for looking to the same thinges with speciall charge to Lay handes on no man suddainely Which imposition of hands the Apostle to the Hebrewes numbers for a principle of the Christian Fayth Which cannot be otherwise then by that signe some grace was intended as that the hand of God should be with the partie so lawfully called In which respect not onely Augustine but also Caluin Buc●r Melancthon and others are bold to pronounce it a Sacrament And what doth Dudley Fenner in his sacra Theologia lesse when as he writes thus And by this ceremony the chosen are confirmed as being by the hand of God seperate to the function and to be ordained with guistes which if they shall fulfill He is continually in all temptations to be present with them But otherwise to be by all meanes a sharpe reuenger The Choosers also are thereby informed that they receiue the man by the hand of God that to him they must be subiect Nor must it be slipped ouer that this of M. Fenners was M. Cartwrights also which well may bee pressed for curbing some their
our soules Answere So in Math. 23. himselfe sayth One is your Doctor one is your Father and that Doctor himselfe sayth is Christ and that one Father is in heauen and therefore no one in the earth teacheth Christ is to be called Father Doctor When the Doctor of schisme hath opened Christs meaning let him but put the same key vnto his owne Obiection and the spring flies so open that bad eyed Leah running by will easily discouer his follie ¶ The other Presbyter or Elder for the Greeke word Presbiter is Elder in English he is as the Ordinarie Priest vnto the Hy-priest imployed in the Word and Sacraments also And therefore in Act. 20. 17. 18 c. one and the same persons be indifferently called Elders Ouerseers or as the Greeke words sound Presbiters and Bishops For that in 1. Tim. 5. 17. it is to be read thus The Elders that gouerne well are worthy double honour specially they which wearie themselues in the word and doctrine where the comparison is not betweene Elders some Gouerning some teaching but betweene Elders labouring more or lesse which caused Zuinghus at the first starting vp of such Lay-eldership in his expounding of the former verse to oppose vnto all Eldership sauing the Teaching Nor could Gualter see any vse of such sole Gouernours where the ciuill Magistrate hath his place Before God added the Ciuill Gouernour to the Church there might happily haue been some vse of such Lay-elders yet I see no Scripture for proofe of it but God giuing once Kinges and Princes to be of the Church the weaker gouernment might giue place And indeed the peruerse holding of a Lay-eldership as a setled function of Christes it hath ministred occasion to the Anabaptistes of thrusting the Magistrate out of the Church as hauing no vse of his sword within The Deacons are called to assist the Presbiters as Euangelistes did the Apostles and as in the Temple of Salomon the Common Leuites attended the Priestes Seauen such were ordained to the Church in Ierushalem but vpon the persecution of Stephen one of the seauen the Church being scattered Philip one of the Deacons comes to Samaria and there not onely preacheth but also baptiseth Vnto whom some of the Apostles repayred conferring vpon the Christians the guiftes of the Holy Ghost After that time Philip might well become an Euangelist and so be assistant vnto the Apostles as Iohn Marke was to Barnabas and Silas to Paul but before that he was but a plaine Deacon and as a Christian Deacon he so preached and baptised euen else where then in Ierushalems Church whereto he was at first ordayned Now leauing to contend about wordes which the Apostle forbids to Timothj what difference of ministerie is there betweene Apostles Prophets Euangelistes the extraordinarie sort and these of Pastors for so the new Testament Ministers be also called and put thereto also the Deacons which in Ephe. 4. may be very well meant in the tearme Doctors seeing Bishops and Deacons be the whole Ministerie in 1. Tim. 4. where the Apostle precisely describes the callinges as also in Philip 1. 1. where the salutations from the Apostle runnes thus To the Saintes of Philippj meaning the body of the people with the Bishops and Deacons intending the whole Ministerie in them two words What difference I say is there in the matter of their ministerie Apostle is in English One that is sent Whereto to minister the word and both Sacraments and so doth the Bishop Presbiter or Pastor All the rest minister the same word and preaching must also of necessitie minister Baptisme For the Deacon doing that as before and he being the least it followes that the greater had no lesse power to doe that specially seeing not onely in the Commission Math. 28. 19. Preaching and Baptisme be conioyned but also for that the Apostle euidently maketh Preaching the greater 1. Cor. 1. 17. and necessarily it must be so seeing the Word is greater then the Seale for that by the word of Fayth some soule can be saued without the Seale as afore but none by the Seale without the Word As for the Sacrament of Communion it can onely be ministred to a Communion of people and therefore cannot be fitly administred but by him that is Superintendent to such a Communion of people And that is by the Apostle that ruleth ouer the Whole or the Pastor that ruleth ouer a Part. Yet seeing Prophets and Euangelistes were to assist the Apostle and Deacons to assist the Pastor it cannot follow otherwise but the Maisters of the worke calling for the helpe of their Ministers they might also follow in the administration of the other Sacrament though not goe before as Presidentes And as the Scriptures intend all this so God hath preserued the true footesteps of it through all ages in the Churches which none but fantasticke Nouelistes can but admit with Reuerence And the not admittance hereof what hath it bgeot in the Factions Euen so many crosse opinions and vnresolued positions touching Callinges and duetie of Called as themselues begin to stinke in the nosethrilles of their owne Disciples Which sadly also obserued will cause the Ingenuous minded hereafter not so easily to blot and blurre the lines of Antiquitie As for the Widowes mentioned in 1. Tim. 5. they are not to be counted with Church-officers Once for that neither they nor any other Woman was to speake in the Congregation Besides for that the greatnes of their yeares being threescore before they might be receiued as also their impotencie of outward meanes considered ere they might be admitted do argue that they were taken in not so much to minister as to be ministred vnto Touching whom a most auncient Father thus writes Let not the Widowes be neglect●● but next to the Lord see that thou doe care for them Such a Widow was Phaebe of Cenchrea and such a one vnder the Law Anna the Prophetesse some 84. yeares Widow who continued in the Temple night and day with fastinges and prayers An Apish imitation whereof the order of Nunns is in the Church of Rome As for Philips Daughters Propetisses that was a fulfilling of the Prophecie in Ioel. 2. 28. and a thing not common to the Church in their kind Vnto old mother Zion such was Deborah in the time of the Iudges and Huldah vnder the raigne of Iosiah Such a sweete harmonie is betweene the Mother-church and her Daughter whether we respect that is Substantiall or otherwise Accidentall Are they not then well helped vp that leaue the Analogicall frame of both Testaments for digging to themselues Cesternes that will neuer hold Water They should as Ieremy aduiseth haue stood in the wayes and so haue inquired of the good and old way But leauing these wayes of sacred tradition they neuer haue been able to find out the Good and old way deliuered in the Scriptures For as Agur teacheth The eye that mocketh the Father and despiseth the