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6._o add_v to_o this_o their_o obstinate_a opposition_n to_o all_o reform_v of_o worship_n and_o religion_n from_o such_o evidence_v error_n and_o corruption_n as_o image-worship_n prayer_n in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n communion_n under_o one_o kind_n if_o any_o of_o the_o priest_n have_v withstand_v the_o reform_v and_o purge_v of_o the_o temple_n undertake_v by_o hezekiah_n and_o josiah_n and_o not_o consent_v to_o the_o restore_n of_o the_o due_a worship_n of_o god_n or_o to_o serve_v in_o the_o temple_n according_a to_o that_o form_n of_o worship_n have_v it_o be_v just_a to_o continue_v they_o in_o the_o priest_n office_n or_o to_o remove_v they_o and_o be_v there_o any_o reason_n that_o the_o queen_n according_a to_o the_o power_n give_v she_o of_o god_n undertake_v the_o reformation_n of_o religion_n and_o worship_n shall_v continue_v those_o as_o pastor_n in_o the_o church_n which_o refuse_v to_o teach_v or_o give_v a_o reason_n of_o their_o doctrine_n or_o to_o accord_v to_o 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and_o therefore_o no_o cause_n of_o their_o deprivation_n but_o this_o be_v more_o than_o he_o can_v affirm_v and_o altogether_o improbable_a consider_v their_o presumptuous_a disobedience_n and_o i_o find_v in_o stow_n that_o upon_o their_o abrupt_a break_v up_o the_o conference_n white_a and_o watson_n the_o two_o bishop_n of_o winchester_n and_o lincoln_n be_v immediate_o send_v to_o the_o tower_n for_o their_o extraordinary_a peremptoriness_n and_o all_o the_o rest_n bind_v daily_o to_o attend_v the_o pleasure_n of_o the_o queen_n council_n save_v feckenham_n abbot_n of_o westminster_n who_o only_o show_v himself_o reasonable_a and_o very_o willing_a to_o have_v the_o conference_n go_v orderly_a and_o peaceable_o on_o and_o therefore_o have_v his_o liberty_n neither_o be_v the_o question_n here_o what_o be_v object_v to_o they_o but_o what_o they_o deserve_v the_o object_v of_o their_o refusal_n of_o the_o oath_n be_v enough_o for_o their_o deprivation_n by_o the_o statute_n new_o 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supper_n first_o it_o be_v true_a that_o some_o father_n seem_v to_o say_v christ_n offer_v himself_o up_o in_o his_o last_o supper_n but_o it_o be_v evident_a they_o mean_v it_o not_o real_o and_o proper_o for_o how_o can_v it_o be_v so_o where_o there_o be_v no_o real_a effusion_n of_o his_o blood_n no_o real_a occision_n or_o death_n but_o mystical_o or_o as_o saint_n augustine_n sometime_o express_v it_o significante_fw-la mysterio_fw-la in_o a_o mystery_n or_o sacrament_n signify_v or_o represent_v his_o sa_o ifice_n or_o offer_v on_o the_o cross_n present_o to_o follow_v that_o sacramentum_fw-la dominici_n saerificii_n sacrament_n of_o the_o lord_n sacrifice_n as_o saint_n cyprian_n call_v it_o ep._n 63._o ad_fw-la cacil_n the_o sacrament_n then_o at_o his_o last_o supper_n show_v the_o lord_n death_n that_o shall_v be_v or_o the_o sacrifice_n that_o shall_v be_v offer_v on_o the_o cross_n and_o the_o sacrament_n now_o show_v the_o lord_n death_n that_o be_v and_o the_o sacrifice_n that_o be_v offer_v all_o the_o wit_n the_o romanist_n have_v can_v make_v the_o offer_v up_o of_o himself_o in_o the_o last_o supper_n as_o they_o fancy_n it_o and_o after_o upon_o the_o cross_n to_o consist_v upon_o any_o reasonable_a term_n for_o as_o they_o may_v not_o say_v there_o be_v two_o several_a offering_n up_o of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n so_o they_o can_v make_v they_o real_o the_o same_o the_o apostle_n tell_v we_o often_o in_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o hebrew_n cap._n 7._o cap._n 9_o cap._n 10._o he_o offer_v once_o to_o take_v away_o sin_n and_o the_o romanist_n dare_v not_o say_v he_o offer_v himself_o twice_o for_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o world_n yet_o say_v that_o he_o offer_v himself_o real_o in_o the_o supper_n and_o on_o the_o cross_n where_o the_o time_n and_o place_n be_v several_a and_o the_o manner_n of_o offer_v as_o to_o the_o very_a nature_n of_o a_o real_a external_a sacrifice_n quite_o diverse_a for_o it_o be_v without_o bloodshed_n and_o death_n in_o the_o supper_n but_o with_o both_o on_o the_o cross_n they_o must_v needs_o say_v he_o twice_o offer_v himself_o and_o all_o the_o cunning_a they_o have_v can_v make_v once_o and_o twice_o here_o to_o be_v real_o the_o same_o or_o to_o consist_v upon_o any_o term_n free_a from_o contradiction_n 5._o relation_n of_o the_o eucharist_n to_o this_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o cross_n 5._o 4._o champny_n endeavour_v to_o clear_v the_o relation_n which_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o eucharist_n have_v to_o that_o of_o the_o cross_n be_v force_v to_o make_v a_o wide_a difference_n between_o they_o and_o indeed_o to_o come_v to_o that_o which_o we_o allow_v in_o the_o eucharist_n as_o it_o be_v a_o sacrament_n without_o place_v such_o a_o sacrifice_n in_o it_o as_o they_o vain_o contend_v for_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o cross_n say_v he_o pag._n 704._o be_v absolute_a and_o independent_a which_o have_v his_o effect_n ex_fw-la propriâ_fw-la suâ_fw-la efficaciâ_fw-la valour_n &_o virtute_fw-la from_o his_o own_o efficacy_n value_n and_o virtue_n but_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o eucharist_n be_v respectivum_fw-la dependens_fw-la &_o applicativum_fw-la relative_a to_o that_o sacrifice_n on_o the_o cross_n depend_v on_o it_o and_o borrow_v totamsuam_fw-la propitiandi_fw-la vim_fw-la à _fw-la sacrificio_fw-la crucis_fw-la all_o the_o propitiatory_a force_n it_o have_v from_o that_o on_o the_o cross_n last_o it_o be_v applicative_a of_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o cross_n applicando_fw-la nob_n be_v crucis_fw-la merita_fw-la &_o valorem_fw-la it_o apply_v say_v he_o unto_o we_o the_o merit_n of_o that_o sacrifice_n again_o for_o the_o dependencie_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o eucharist_n upon_o that_o of_o the_o cross_n he_o acknowledge_v there_o in_o effectu_fw-la svo_fw-la non_fw-la minù_fw-fr quam_fw-la â—lim_fw-la judeorum_fw-la sacrifisia_fw-la ab_fw-la eo_fw-la dependere_fw-la that_o it_o depend_v no_o less_o upon_o it_o as_o to_o his_o effect_n and_o force_n than_o the_o judaical_a sacrifice_n do_v and_o pag._n 707._o he_o make_v the_o effect_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o eucharist_n in_o and_o by_o the_o virtue_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o cross_n to_o be_v as_o the_o work_v of_o the_o second_o cause_n by_o the_o cooperation_n of_o the_o first_o and_o endeavour_v to_o show_v how_o the_o propitiatory_a virtue_n attribute_v to_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o eucharist_n do_v not_o derogat_n from_o the_o sufficiency_n of_o the_o propitiatory_a sacrifice_n of_o the_o cross_n he_o can_v do_v it_o but_o by_o make_v the_o one_o medium_n applicationis_fw-la a_o mean_v appoint_v to_o apply_v the_o other_o unto_o we_o and_o this_o he_o prove_v by_o the_o act_n of_o faith_n and_o repentance_n which_o beside_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o cross_n be_v require_v in_o we_o to_o make_v it_o effectual_a to_o we_o and_o by_o baptism_n ordain_v of_o god_n to_o apply_v his_o blood_n to_o we_o and_o neither_o of_o these_o derogatory_n to_o the_o sufficiency_n of_o the_o propitiatory_a sacrifice_n of_o the_o cross_n thus_o he_o pag._n 714_o 723.7â—6_n 5._o now_o in_o all_o this_o we_o may_v observe_v what_o a_o wide_a difference_n be_v make_v between_o the_o sacrifice_n in_o the_o eucharist_n and_o on_o the_o cross_n and_o thereupon_o how_o impossible_a it_o be_v to_o make_v they_o one_o and_o the_o same_o also_o how_o senseless_a it_o be_v to_o affirm_v this_o of_o christ_n offer_v himself_o up_o in_o the_o eucharist_n whether_o we_o consider_v the_o dependency_n acknowledge_v to_o say_v christ_n offering_n himself_o up_o in_o the_o eucharist_n have_v not_o efficacy_n of_o itself_o but_o dependent_o of_o a_o other_o offer_v up_o of_o himself_o or_o whether_o we_o consider_v the_o application_n speak_v of_o to_o say_v that_o christ_n offer_v himself_o up_o in_o the_o eucharist_n to_o apply_v the_o merit_n of_o his_o cross_n unto_o we_o but_o to_o let_v pass_v these_o and_o many_o more_o absurdity_n which_o follow_v upon_o their_o say_n christ_n offer_v himself_o up_o in_o the_o last_o supper_n we_o may_v far_o observe_v how_o the_o romanist_n after_o all_o their_o contend_v for_o a_o real_a proper_a and_o propitiatory_a sacrifice_n be_v fain_o to_o make_v it_o but_o applicative_a and_o that_o be_v it_o which_o we_o ascribe_v to_o the_o eucharist_n as_o it_o be_v a_o sacrament_n appoint_v for_o this_o end_n &_o purpose_n that_o by_o it_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o cross_n may_v be_v apply_v to_o we_o the_o great_a be_v their_o presumption_n that_o have_v take_v off_o this_o applicative_a virtue_n from_o the_o eucharist_n as_o a_o sacrament_n appoint_v of_o god_n to_o that_o end_n and_o ascribe_v it_o to_o the_o eucharist_n under_o the_o notion_n of_o a_o sacrifice_n of_o their_o own_o devise_v have_v draw_v off_o the_o people_n from_o seek_v it_o in_o the_o eucharist_n of_o which_o they_o be_v make_v partaker_n to_o expect_v it_o from_o the_o mass_n which_o be_v perform_v by_o the_o priest_n 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