there_o can_v be_v no_o particular_a church_n 4._o that_o by_o ordinary_a course_n without_o a_o bishop_n there_o can_v be_v no_o hierarchicall_a function_n so_o that_o these_o twoe_o only_a be_v m._n doctor_n main_a argument_n and_o that_o which_o he_o allege_v chap._n 14._o n._n 9_o be_v not_o as_o m._n nicholas_n say_v but_o only_a part_n of_o his_o second_o main_a argument_n for_o if_o it_o have_v be_v by_o itself_o one_o of_o his_o main_a argument_n he_o will_v not_o have_v say_v n._n 4._o and_o my_o reason_n be_v twoe_o but_o he_o shall_v have_v say_v and_o my_o reason_n be_v five_o because_o the_o second_o reason_n include_v four_o which_o yet_o do_v all_o but_o make_v up_o one_o his_o second_o main_a reason_n 2._o yet_o be_v that_o reason_n which_o m._n nicholas_n allege_v a_o good_a reason_n also_o because_o it_o be_v the_o divine_a law_n that_o every_o particular_a church_n of_o extent_n for_o he_o speak_v not_o of_o every_o diocese_n shall_v have_v its_o bishop_n by_o who_o 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a_o particular_a bishop_n he_o contradict_v cardinal_n bellarmin_n who_o lib._n 3._o de_fw-fr eccles_n militante_fw-la cap._n 5._o allege_v this_o definition_n of_o s._n cyprian_a word_n by_o word_n and_o lib._n 4._o de_fw-la notis_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la cap._n 8._o he_o prove_v that_o the_o church_n by_o no_o mean_n can_v be_v without_o bishop_n because_o s._n cypian_n say_v ecclesians_n esse_fw-la episcope_n adunatam_fw-la &_o episcopum_fw-la esse_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la &_o ecclesiam_fw-la in_o episcopo_fw-la that_o the_o church_n be_v unite_v to_o the_o bishop_n and_o that_o the_o bishop_n be_v in_o the_o church_n and_o the_o church_n in_o the_o bishop_n where_o first_o by_o the_o word_n sacerdoti_fw-la priest_n he_o understand_v a_o particular_a bishop_n not_o a_o priest_n or_o pastor_n indefinitelie_o as_o m._n nicholas_n say_v because_o in_o that_o place_n he_o prove_v that_o the_o church_n can_v be_v without_o particular_a bishop_n secondelie_o he_o prove_v out_o of_o this_o 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