pretence_n of_o such_o a_o judge_n if_o we_o can_v know_v what_o be_v canonical_a scripture_n without_o a_o judge_n how_o shall_v we_o know_v whether_o there_o be_v a_o judge_n for_o there_o be_v no_o way_n to_o know_v this_o but_o by_o the_o scripture_n if_o there_o be_v no_o such_o judge_n appoint_v in_o scripture_n we_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o own_v he_o and_o if_o we_o can_v tell_v what_o scripture_n be_v without_o a_o judge_n how_o shall_v we_o find_v the_o judge_n by_o the_o scripture_n and_o though_o the_o objection_n be_v make_v only_o against_o some_o particular_a book_n of_o scripture_n yet_o in_o truth_n it_o equal_o lie_v against_o the_o whole_a canon_n for_o if_o we_o can_v know_v any_o one_o particular_a book_n of_o scripture_n without_o a_o judge_n why_o not_o the_o rest_n no_o some_o of_o they_o have_v be_v doubt_v of_o right_a by_o some_o church_n who_o do_v not_o know_v they_o till_o they_o be_v satisfy_v by_o those_o church_n which_o keep_v those_o sacred_a record_n that_o they_o be_v true_a and_o genuine_a but_o the_o question_n be_v whether_o a_o book_n which_o have_v be_v doubt_v of_o when_o that_o doubt_n be_v remove_v have_v not_o as_o certain_a authority_n as_o the_o rest_n if_o it_o can_v not_o then_o and_o can_v to_o this_o day_n be_v prove_v to_o be_v genuine_a why_o be_v it_o receive_v what_o obligation_n be_v we_o under_o to_o own_v it_o if_o any_o book_n which_o we_o call_v canonical_a be_v still_o doubtful_a it_o be_v more_o natural_a and_o reasonable_a to_o reject_v they_o than_o to_o set_v up_o a_o judge_n without_o any_o authority_n to_o give_v authority_n to_o they_o for_o whether_o any_o book_n of_o scripture_n be_v canonical_a be_v matter_n of_o fact_n and_o the_o doctor_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n themselves_o do_v not_o extend_v infallibility_n to_o matter_n of_o fact_n and_o then_o by_o their_o own_o confession_n there_o can_v be_v no_o infallible_a judge_n of_o the_o canon_n of_o scripture_n but_o we_o must_v content_v ourselves_o with_o such_o moral_a certainty_n as_o may_v be_v have_v and_o if_o catholic_n tradition_n be_v so_o uncertain_a that_o we_o can_v learn_v the_o canon_n of_o scripture_n from_o it_o what_o become_v of_o the_o authority_n of_o all_o their_o unwritten_a tradition_n which_o they_o so_o much_o boast_v of_o thus_o some_o man_n if_o they_o can_v but_o make_v a_o show_n of_o say_v any_o thing_n never_o attend_v to_o consequence_n nor_o consider_v whether_o their_o objection_n do_v not_o make_v as_o much_o against_o themselves_o and_o common_a christianity_n as_o against_o protestant_n three_o the_o last_o argument_n be_v that_o the_o author_n of_o the_o paper_n can_v make_v those_o article_n of_o the_o nicene_n creed_n one_o holy_a catholic_n apostolic_a church_n the_o communion_n of_o saint_n agree_v with_o the_o protestant_a religion_n here_o be_v a_o little_a blunder_n in_o call_v this_o the_o nicene_n creed_n though_o easy_o pardonable_a for_o it_o be_v a_o jumble_v of_o the_o apostle_n and_o nicene_n creed_n together_o the_o holy_a catholic_n church_n the_o communion_n of_o saint_n be_v in_o the_o apostle_n creed_n one_o catholic_n apostolic_a church_n the_o nicene_n creed_n and_o why_o do_v not_o this_o agree_v with_o the_o protestant_a religion_n for_o we_o profess_v to_o believe_v both_o these_o creed_n as_o sincere_o as_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n no_o how_o can_v they_o be_v one_o who_o disagree_v by_o add_v in_o faith_n or_o diminish_v from_o it_o who_o do_v not_o communicate_v together_o in_o prayer_n or_o sacrament_n when_o they_o be_v not_o agree_v in_o the_o essential_a thing_n how_o be_v they_o one_o right_n church_n which_o differ_v in_o essential_o be_v not_o one_o but_o i_o hope_v there_o be_v few_o church_n do_v that_o i_o be_o sure_a they_o can_v never_o prove_v that_o we_o deny_v any_o essential_a and_o fundamental_a article_n of_o faith_n if_o this_o prove_v any_o thing_n it_o prove_v that_o all_o the_o separate_a communion_n of_o christendom_n be_v not_o one_o church_n and_o what_o then_o how_o be_v the_o church_n of_o england_n more_o concern_v in_o this_o than_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n can_v we_o believe_v one_o church_n in_o the_o creed_n as_o well_o as_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n notwithstanding_o all_o the_o division_n of_o christendom_n do_v the_o mere_a division_n of_o christendom_n prove_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v that_o one_o church_n or_o that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v no_o member_n of_o this_o one_o church_n in_o the_o creed_n the_o church_n be_v but_o one_o from_o the_o first_o plant_n of_o it_o by_o the_o apostle_n to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n and_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n as_o well_o as_o we_o must_v own_v that_o it_o be_v but_o one_o church_n notwithstanding_o the_o several_a division_n that_o have_v be_v in_o it_o in_o the_o first_o age_n of_o the_o church_n as_o well_o as_o now_o and_o therefore_o the_o unity_n and_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n must_v not_o be_v estimate_v by_o any_o one_o age_n of_o the_o church_n but_o the_o apostolic_a age_n must_v be_v the_o standard_n of_o catholic_n unity_n and_o communion_n as_o it_o be_v of_o the_o catholic_n faith_n suppose_v all_o the_o church_n of_o the_o world_n at_o this_o day_n be_v in_o communion_n with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n except_v the_o church_n of_o england_n why_o then_o you_o will_v say_v it_o will_v be_v plain_a the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v separate_v from_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n and_o from_o catholic_n communion_n right_n from_o the_o church_n of_o this_o age_n but_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o this_o age_n be_v but_o a_o very_a little_a part_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n where_o it_o be_v sound_a and_o orthodox_n for_o i_o hope_v they_o will_v allow_v the_o apostolic_a church_n and_o the_o church_n of_o the_o three_o first_o age_n to_o be_v the_o best_a and_o pure_a part_n of_o the_o one_o catholic_n church_n and_o that_o we_o must_v still_o maintain_v communion_n with_o they_o if_o then_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v separate_v from_o all_o the_o church_n of_o this_o age_n yet_o if_o she_o be_v in_o communion_n with_o the_o apostolic_a and_o primitive_a church_n she_o be_v in_o catholic_n commun_n on_o still_o if_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o be_v in_o catholic_n communion_n to_o know_v then_o whether_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v a_o true_a catholic_n church_n and_o in_o catholic_n communion_n we_o be_v not_o so_o much_o concern_v to_o inquire_v what_o church_n she_o communicate_v with_o now_o as_o whether_o she_o be_v in_o the_o apostolic_a communion_n which_o be_v the_o fountain_n and_o original_a of_o catholic_n communion_n now_o if_o the_o constitution_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v such_o as_o to_o doctrine_n worship_n and_o government_n that_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o will_v have_v own_v our_o communion_n have_v we_o be_v in_o their_o day_n how_o do_v we_o come_v to_o be_v schismatic_n now_o and_o out_o of_o catholic_n communion_n for_o if_o catholic_n communion_n be_v the_o communion_n of_o the_o whole_a catholic_n church_n from_o the_o time_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n which_o be_v but_o one_o church_n and_o the_o apostolic_a church_n be_v the_o true_a measure_n and_o standard_n of_o true_a catholic_n communion_n than_o those_o church_n which_o to_o this_o day_n be_v in_o communion_n with_o the_o apostle_n be_v in_o true_a catholic_n communion_n and_o this_o test_n we_o will_v stand_v by_o though_o i_o will_v not_o advise_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o do_v so_o let_v we_o consider_v whether_o the_o apostle_n will_v have_v reject_v our_o communion_n for_o those_o reason_n for_o which_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n now_o reject_v we_o will_v st._n paul_n have_v reject_v our_o communion_n because_o we_o will_v not_o worship_n god_n in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n which_o he_o himself_o forbid_v 1_o cor._n 14._o because_o we_o will_v not_o worship_v saint_n and_o angel_n and_o image_n which_o the_o romanist_n confess_v be_v neither_o command_v nor_o practise_v in_o those_o day_n and_o which_o we_o say_v be_v forbid_v then_o and_o understand_v to_o be_v so_o by_o all_o christian_n for_o not_o own_v the_o supremacy_n of_o peter_n when_o st._n paul_n himself_o withstand_v he_o as_o much_o as_o we_o do_v the_o pope_n of_o rome_n and_o upon_o a_o much_o less_o occasion_n gal._n 2._o 11._o etc._n etc._n and_o the_o african_a church_n long_o after_o in_o the_o day_n of_o st._n cyprian_n and_o by_o his_o authority_n forbid_v all_o appeal_n to_o the_o bishop_n or_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o a_o word_n will_v the_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n indulgence_n purgatory_n communion_n in_o one_o kind_n private_a and_o solitary_a mass_n
any_o other_o way_n to_o prove_v the_o lawfulness_n or_o usefulness_n of_o they_o especial_o if_o beside_o the_o want_n of_o such_o a_o positive_a institution_n we_o have_v plain_a evidence_n against_o they_o and_o such_o as_o every_o man_n may_v understand_v when_o the_o scripture_n tell_v we_o that_o christ_n have_v by_o one_o offer_v perfect_v for_o ever_o they_o that_o be_v sanctify_v hebr._n 9_o 25_o 26._o &_o 10._o 14_o this_o be_v a_o direct_a proof_n against_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n wherein_o he_o be_v offer_v ten_o thousand_o time_n every_o day_n when_o christ_n be_v the_o priest_n as_o well_o as_o the_o sacrifice_n and_o can_v be_v offer_v by_o none_o but_o himself_o how_o come_v he_o to_o be_v offer_v by_o a_o mass_n priest_n unless_o he_o as_o well_o as_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v transubstantiate_v into_o christ_n it_o be_v certain_a there_o can_v be_v no_o such_o thing_n as_o the_o popish_a sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n unless_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v transubstantiate_v into_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n and_o we_o be_v as_o certain_a as_o our_o sense_n can_v make_v we_o that_o there_o be_v no_o transubstantiation_n as_o for_o the_o half-communion_n it_o be_v confess_v that_o christ_n do_v institute_v his_o last_o supper_n in_o both_o kind_n and_o command_v they_o all_o to_o drink_v of_o the_o cup_n and_o this_o may_v satisfy_v any_o man_n who_o do_v not_o believe_v that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v authority_n to_o repeal_v the_o institution_n of_o christ_n and_o to_o forbid_v what_o he_o command_v and_o when_o st._n paul_n assure_v we_o that_o there_o be_v but_o one_o mediator_n between_o god_n and_o man_n the_o man_n christ_n jesus_n one_o will_v think_v this_o evidence_n enough_o against_o the_o mediation_n of_o saint_n and_o angel_n when_o they_o can_v show_v one_o word_n for_o it_o for_o as_o for_o their_o distinction_n between_o mediator_n of_o redemption_n and_o pure_a intercession_n they_o can_v show_v it_o in_o scripture_n where_o our_o redeemer_n be_v our_o only_a advocate_n and_o when_o christ_n himself_o enforce_v and_o ratify_v that_o command_n of_o the_o law_n thou_o shall_v worship_v the_o lord_n thy_o god_n and_o he_o only_o shall_v thou_o serve_v this_o be_v a_o plain_a argument_n against_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n since_o they_o have_v nothing_o for_o it_o and_o when_o there_o be_v no_o authority_n in_o scripture_n for_o pray_v in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n one_o will_v think_v that_o the_o absurdity_n of_o the_o practice_n and_o the_o authority_n of_o st._n paul_n who_o express_o condemn_v it_o be_v evidence_n enough_o against_o it_o so_o that_o though_o man_n may_v be_v at_o the_o needless_a expense_n of_o a_o great_a deal_n of_o learning_n in_o these_o controversy_n yet_o in_o truth_n there_o be_v no_o learning_n require_v to_o understand_v they_o the_o mean_a man_n may_v judge_v for_o himself_o for_o the_o controversy_n turn_v upon_o so_o plain_a a_o point_n and_o there_o be_v so_o plain_a evidence_n in_o the_o case_n that_o a_o honest_a man_n may_v have_v abundant_a evidence_n and_o satisfaction_n though_o he_o do_v not_o understand_v one_o word_n of_o all_o the_o learning_n which_o be_v lose_v in_o such_o dispute_n the_o paper_n in_o short_a i_o think_v there_o be_v but_o evidence_n or_o authority_n to_o move_v we_o to_o believe_v answer_n this_o be_v certain_o true_a if_o it_o be_v right_o understand_v that_o be_v if_o by_o evidence_n be_v mean_v the_o evidence_n of_o sense_n and_o reason_n and_o by_o authority_n the_o authority_n of_o scripture_n which_o be_v the_o authority_n of_o god_n who_o speak_v by_o moses_n and_o the_o prophet_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n and_o by_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n in_o the_o new_a and_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n as_o credible_a witness_n of_o the_o apostolic_a doctrine_n and_o practice_n in_o this_o sense_n we_o grant_v that_o our_o faith_n must_v be_v found_v both_o upon_o evidence_n and_o authority_n and_o this_o be_v the_o true_a protestant_a resolution_n of_o faith_n and_o then_o the_o only_a fault_n of_o this_o proposition_n be_v that_o evidence_n and_o authority_n be_v oppose_v to_o each_o other_o whereas_o they_o must_v always_o go_v together_o in_o a_o true_a rational_a faith_n but_o if_o by_o evidence_n be_v mean_v all_o the_o argument_n whereby_o we_o can_v prove_v the_o truth_n of_o any_o thing_n whether_o from_o sense_n or_o reason_n or_o scripture_n or_o the_o testimony_n of_o antiquity_n and_o by_o authority_n be_v mean_v the_o authority_n of_o a_o visible_a judge_n of_o controversy_n as_o it_o be_v understand_v in_o this_o paper_n then_o at_o best_a this_o be_v a_o very_a precarious_a proposition_n without_o the_o least_o shadow_n of_o truth_n that_o either_o evidence_n or_o authority_n must_v move_v we_o to_o believe_v that_o be_v that_o our_o faith_n must_v be_v resolve_v either_o into_o evidence_n or_o the_o authority_n of_o a_o visible_a judge_n for_o how_o be_v this_o prove_v that_o when_o there_o want_v evidence_n for_o our_o faith_n we_o must_v believe_v upon_o the_o authority_n of_o a_o visible_a judge_n it_o seem_v to_o i_o a_o more_o natural_a consequence_n that_o where_o there_o want_v evidence_n we_o must_v not_o believe_v at_o all_o if_o it_o have_v be_v first_o prove_v that_o god_n have_v appoint_v a_o visible_a judge_n to_o direct_v those_o who_o can_v judge_v for_o themselves_o there_o have_v be_v some_o pretence_n for_o say_v that_o we_o must_v believe_v either_o upon_o evidence_n or_o upon_o the_o authority_n of_o a_o judge_n but_o without_o prove_v this_o first_o i_o will_v desire_v any_o man_n to_o prove_v to_o i_o that_o i_o be_o bind_v to_o believe_v what_o i_o have_v no_o evidence_n for_o or_o which_o be_v all_o one_o no_o such_o evidence_n as_o i_o can_v understand_v and_o if_o i_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o believe_v without_o evidence_n how_o can_v the_o want_n of_o evidence_n prove_v that_o there_o must_v be_v a_o visible_a judge_n into_o who_o authority_n i_o must_v resolve_v my_o faith_n the_o paper_n evidence_n to_o the_o generality_n of_o people_n be_v impossible_a but_o i_o have_v already_o prove_v that_o this_o be_v not_o impossible_a but_o the_o mean_a man_n with_o the_o help_n of_o a_o learned_a and_o faithful_a guide_n may_v understand_v the_o scripture_n in_o all_o thing_n necessary_a for_o a_o christian_n to_o know_v but_o suppose_v at_o present_a that_o the_o generality_n of_o people_n can_v do_v this_o yet_o can_v learned_a man_n do_v it_o and_o one_o will_v think_v if_o there_o be_v any_o evidence_n at_o least_o learned_a man_n may_v understand_v it_o for_o that_o which_o be_v not_o evident_a neither_o to_o the_o learned_a nor_o to_o the_o unlearned_a i_o fear_v be_v no_o evidence_n at_o all_o unless_o there_o be_v such_o a_o kind_n of_o evidence_n as_o be_v evident_a to_o no_o body_n and_o yet_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v bring_v thing_n to_o a_o fine_a pass_n if_o she_o must_v be_v force_v to_o deny_v that_o we_o have_v any_o evidence_n for_o our_o religion_n now_o if_o there_o be_v any_o evidence_n for_o our_o religion_n and_o learned_a man_n may_v understand_v it_o then_o at_o least_o learned_a man_n may_v judge_v for_o themselves_o and_o not_o depend_v upon_o the_o authority_n of_o any_o other_o judge_n and_o thus_o there_o be_v no_o need_n nay_o there_o can_v be_v no_o use_n of_o a_o visible_a judge_n for_o the_o learned_a part_n of_o the_o world_n for_o to_o say_v that_o learned_a man_n have_v evidence_n to_o ground_v their_o faith_n on_o and_o yet_o must_v not_o believe_v according_a to_o evidence_n but_o authority_n be_v to_o say_v that_o man_n have_v eye_n but_o must_v not_o use_v they_o to_o see_v their_o own_o way_n but_o must_v follow_v a_o guide_n blindfold_a and_o yet_o if_o learned_a man_n be_v allow_v to_o see_v and_o judge_v for_o themselves_o a_o judge_n of_o controversy_n will_v signify_v very_o little_a for_o it_o be_v learn_v man_n who_o start_v difficulty_n and_o manage_v dispute_n and_o be_v the_o author_n and_o patron_n of_o heresy_n and_o if_o these_o learned_a man_n who_o may_v and_o must_v judge_v for_o themselves_o differ_v from_o each_o other_o and_o from_o the_o judge_n of_o controversy_n what_o remedy_n be_v there_o nay_o if_o learned_a man_n must_v judge_v for_o themselves_o according_a to_o the_o evidence_n they_o have_v of_o thing_n and_o not_o be_v overrule_v by_o authority_n without_o evidence_n there_o can_v be_v no_o visible_a judge_n of_o controversy_n for_o a_o authority_n which_o may_v be_v contradict_v as_o it_o may_v be_v if_o learned_a man_n must_v judge_v for_o themselves_o can_v be_v no_o authority_n either_o with_o the_o learned_a or_o unlearned_a for_o the_o unlearned_a will_v have_v no_o great_a reverence_n for_o that_o authority_n which_o
we_o shall_v have_v have_v no_o dispute_n about_o it_o at_o this_o day_n and_o therefore_o they_o must_v be_v out_o in_o one_o either_o christ_n have_v appoint_v no_o such_o judge_n or_o this_o can_v prevent_v schism_n in_o the_o church_n 4._o four_o there_o be_v a_o easy_a and_o effectual_a way_n of_o cure_v church_n division_n without_o a_o judge_n of_o controversy_n nay_o without_o make_v all_o man_n of_o a_o mind_n in_o every_o thing_n which_o must_v never_o be_v expect_v in_o this_o world_n and_o that_o be_v not_o to_o make_v the_o necessary_a term_n of_o communion_n straight_a and_o narrow_a than_o christ_n have_v make_v they_o nothing_o but_o what_o be_v plain_o reveal_v in_o scripture_n and_o be_v essential_a to_o christian_a faith_n and_o worship_n for_o such_o matter_n most_o christian_n agree_v in_o and_o though_o they_o may_v have_v some_o private_a opinion_n of_o their_o own_o this_o ought_v not_o to_o divide_v communion_n while_o they_o do_v not_o impose_v they_o upon_o the_o faith_n of_o other_o nor_o introduce_v any_o new_a and_o strange_a worship_n into_o the_o christian_a church_n as_o for_o example_n the_o church_n of_o england_n believe_v and_o practice_n whatever_o be_v think_v necessary_a in_o the_o apostle_n day_n and_o for_o some_o age_n after_o and_o there_o be_v little_a or_o no_o dispute_n about_o these_o matter_n between_o we_o and_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n so_o that_o we_o can_v to_o this_o day_n without_o a_o judge_n of_o controversy_n maintain_v communion_n with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n upon_o the_o same_o term_n that_o the_o apostolic_a church_n maintain_v communion_n with_o each_o other_o for_o we_o both_o agree_v in_o all_o thing_n which_o be_v necessary_a and_o essential_a to_o church_n communion_n so_o that_o the_o schism_n between_o we_o and_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v not_o for_o want_v of_o a_o judge_n of_o controversy_n for_o without_o own_v such_o a_o judge_n we_o agree_v in_o all_o that_o be_v necessary_a in_o all_o that_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n require_v to_o make_v we_o member_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n but_o this_o will_v not_o satisfy_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o will_v receive_v no_o other_o church_n into_o her_o communion_n without_o own_v her_o sovereign_n and_o supreme_a authority_n nor_o without_o believe_v many_o doctrine_n manifest_o absurd_a in_o themselves_o and_o never_o teach_v in_o the_o best_a and_o pure_a age_n of_o the_o church_n nor_o without_o join_v in_o such_o a_o worship_n which_o they_o themselves_o dare_v not_o say_v be_v necessary_a for_o they_o do_v not_o pretend_v that_o for_o their_o pray_v to_o saint_n and_o worship_v image_n and_o prayer_n in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n and_o which_o we_o think_v be_v sinful_a if_o these_o thing_n be_v remove_v we_o can_v glad_o communicate_v with_o they_o upon_o true_a catholic_n principle_n there_o be_v no_o need_n of_o a_o judge_n but_o only_o to_o determine_v those_o controversy_n which_o she_o herself_o have_v make_v in_o contradiction_n to_o the_o primitive_a faith_n of_o christian_n and_o therefore_o i_o can_v but_o commend_v her_o policy_n that_o she_o will_v allow_v no_o body_n to_o be_v judge_n of_o these_o dispute_n but_o herself_o will_v all_o man_n submit_v to_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n it_o will_v certain_o restore_v peace_n and_o unity_n to_o the_o church_n but_o to_o the_o great_a prejudice_n of_o truth_n and_o hazard_v of_o man_n soul_n and_o we_o must_v not_o purchase_v a_o mere_a external_a unity_n at_o this_o rate_n those_o man_n overvalue_v unity_n who_o part_n with_o truth_n for_o it_o for_o certain_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o more_o considerable_a than_o the_o purity_n of_o its_o faith_n and_o worship_n the_o paper_n these_o reason_n make_v i_o think_v a_o visible_a judge_n absolute_o necessary_a answer_n what_o i_o have_v already_o discourse_v i_o hope_v may_v occasion_v some_o new_a and_o different_a thought_n of_o this_o matter_n but_o since_o certainty_n be_v the_o great_a and_o prevail_a argument_n let_v we_o turn_v the_o table_n and_o see_v what_o certainty_n a_o roman_n catholic_n have_v his_o faith_n be_v resolve_v into_o the_o authority_n of_o a_o visible_a and_o infallible_a judge_n this_o i_o confess_v bid_v very_o fair_a for_o he_o that_o follow_v a_o infallible_a guide_n can_v err_v but_o whoever_o consider_v this_o matter_n careful_o will_v find_v all_o this_o talk_n of_o infallibility_n dwindle_v into_o nothing_o for_o first_o suppose_v there_o be_v a_o infallible_a judge_n before_o we_o can_v with_o certainty_n and_o assurance_n rely_v on_o he_o we_o must_v certain_o know_v who_o he_o be_v for_o it_o be_v the_o same_o thing_n to_o have_v no_o infallible_a judge_n and_o not_o to_o know_v where_o to_o find_v he_o and_o this_o be_v a_o difficulty_n which_o those_o person_n little_o consider_v who_o please_v themselves_o so_o much_o with_o the_o fancy_n of_o infallibility_n for_o 1._o papist_n themselves_o be_v not_o agree_v about_o this_o matter_n some_o will_v have_v the_o pope_n to_o be_v infallible_a as_o peter_n successor_n and_o in_o his_o right_n other_o the_o church_n assemble_v in_o a_o general_n council_n other_o neither_o pope_n nor_o council_n distinct_o and_o separately_z consider_v but_o a_o council_n confirm_v by_o the_o pope_n other_o none_o of_o all_o this_o but_o tradition_n be_v infallible_a infallibility_n they_o all_o agree_v to_o but_o know_v not_o where_o this_o infallibility_n be_v seat_v now_o what_o shall_v a_o doubt_a protestant_n do_v who_o have_v a_o mind_n to_o be_v as_o infallible_a as_o any_o of_o they_o do_v he_o know_v where_o to_o find_v this_o infallibility_n may_v he_o not_o as_o easy_o choose_v his_o own_o religion_n and_o what_o church_n he_o will_v live_v in_o communion_n with_o as_o which_o of_o these_o infallible_a judge_n to_o follow_v which_o soever_o of_o these_o he_o reject_v he_o have_v a_o considerable_a party_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n on_o his_o side_n the_o only_a difference_n be_v that_o he_o be_v so_o far_o satisfy_v with_o their_o reason_n against_o each_o other_o that_o he_o reject_v they_o all_o and_o he_o have_v good_a reason_n for_o it_o for_o if_o god_n have_v intend_v to_o appoint_v a_o judge_n to_o end_v all_o dispute_n certain_o he_o will_v have_v do_v this_o so_o manifest_o that_o there_o shall_v have_v be_v no_o dispute_n who_o this_o judge_n be_v for_o methinks_v a_o doubtful_a and_o disputable_a judge_n be_v not_o a_o very_a proper_a person_n to_o end_v all_o dispute_n 2._o nay_o according_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o roman_a divine_n it_o be_v not_o possible_a to_o prove_v either_o that_o there_o be_v such_o a_o judge_n or_o who_o this_o judge_n be_v for_o if_o there_o be_v such_o a_o judge_n he_o must_v be_v appoint_v by_o christ_n and_o then_o we_o must_v look_v for_o his_o commission_n in_o the_o gospel_n and_o yet_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n will_v not_o allow_v we_o to_o know_v what_o the_o gospel_n be_v or_o what_o be_v the_o sense_n and_o interpretation_n of_o it_o but_o from_o the_o infallible_a judge_n and_o thus_o it_o be_v impossible_a to_o find_v out_o either_o the_o judge_n or_o the_o scripture_n because_o we_o have_v no_o place_n to_o begin_v at_o if_o we_o begin_v with_o the_o judge_n we_o be_v a_o little_a too_o hasty_a because_o we_o have_v not_o yet_o find_v he_o and_o if_o we_o begin_v with_o the_o scripture_n that_o be_v as_o bad_a because_o we_o can_v understand_v they_o before_o we_o have_v find_v the_o judge_n so_o that_o we_o must_v take_v one_o of_o they_o for_o grant_v without_o any_o proof_n and_o by_o that_o find_v out_o the_o other_o and_o that_o be_v neither_o better_o nor_o worse_o than_o to_o take_v they_o both_o for_o grant_v which_o be_v a_o admirable_a foundation_n for_o infallibility_n at_o all_o adventure_n to_o choose_v a_o infallible_a judge_n and_o then_o to_o believe_v he_o at_o all_o adventure_n so_o that_o though_o man_n who_o have_v always_o be_v bring_v up_o in_o the_o belief_n of_o a_o infallible_a judge_n may_v in_o time_n grow_v very_o confident_a of_o it_o and_o take_v it_o for_o a_o first_o principle_n which_o need_v no_o proof_n yet_o i_o wonder_v how_o any_o protestant_n who_o have_v be_v teach_v otherwise_o and_o if_o he_o act_v wise_o and_o like_o a_o honest_a man_n can_v believe_v it_o till_o it_o be_v prove_v to_o he_o can_v ever_o entertain_v such_o a_o thought_n for_o let_v his_o adversary_n be_v never_o so_o subtle_a if_o he_o resolve_v to_o believe_v nothing_o but_o what_o he_o see_v prove_v he_o may_v maintain_v his_o ground_n against_o he_o as_o to_o represent_v this_o brief_o in_o a_o dialogue_n between_o a_o papist_n and_o a_o protestant_n papist_n i_o pity_v your_o condition_n sir_n to_o see_v you_o live_v at_o such_o uncertainty_n for_o your_o religion_n and_o