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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A07316	A nevv eight-fold probation of the Church of Englands divine constitution prooved by many pregnant arguments, to be much more complete then any Geneuian in the world against the contrary assertion of the fifty three petitioner-preachers of Scotland in their petition presented in the later Parliament to the Kings most excellent Maiesty. With a ten-folde probation of the same churches doctrine touching one of the most important points of our creede, which is of our sauiours descending into Hell. By Iames Maxvvell. Master of Artes, &c.	Maxwell, James, b. 1581.	1617 (1617)	STC 17704; ESTC S103373	82,870	119

23.43.46 the other in that he said a dying Father into thy hands I commend my Spirit but neither doth the one nor the other argument conclude punctually First the argument doth not follow Christs Spirit was in his fathers hands Ergo it was not in hell for Gods hands is in hell aswell as in heauen according to that of the Psalmist speaking of our Sauiour belike by way of prophesie If I ascend into heauen thou art there if I lie downe in hell thou art there Psal 139 8 yea the hand of the Father was with his Sonne in hell in a fatherly manner fortifying him in his conflict against the furie of the whole infernall forces like as his hand and Spirit was with him to raise him vp from the dead Rom. 8.11 as the Apostle teacheth Neither doth the other argument follow Christ was that day or night in Paradise Ergo he did not descend into hell for to speake nothing of his beeing in Paradise in his Godhead I say that in his very soule hee might without all repugnancie haue gone first to Paradise which was the place due vnto him beeing considered as a most perfit and iust man free from sinne and afterwards to hell which was the place due to all sinners and euen to him in so farre as hee became the pledge and surety for sinners a sufferer for them both of death and dishonour and a deliuerer of them from sinne and Sathan from Gods hatred and hell But Godwilling in our Latine disputation of the Seate of soules we shall handle the point of our Sauiours going to Paradise more accurately where wee shall likewise dispute the question of the place situation existence and vse of the terrestriall Paradise and shall by certaine probable arguments make it apparant how that it was created in the heart of the world vpwards like as hell was created in the heart of the earth downwards And there shall wee refute an errour of the learned Spanish Iesuite Pererius and of our Geneuians touching the non-existence of Paradise like as in our worke called Dies Domini which deliuereth the doctrine of Hebrewes Greekes and Latines Theologians Philosophers and Historians touching the worlds beginning lasting and ending wee doe refute the same Iesuites and some of our owne Protestants common errour touching the worlds beginning in the moneth of September and that by diuers new arguments besides the authorities of Theologians Astrologians and Philosophers VI. Sixtly as the holy Scripture doth auouch our Sauiours descending into hell in his soule after death in the foresaid fiue respects so doth the Catholicke or vniuersall Churches common Confession of faith auerre it as may appeare by our common Creed commonly called the Creede of the Apostles wherein after the mention of our Sauiours buriall is immediately subioyned his descending into hell like as after his rising from the dead he is said to haue ascended into heauen Neither could this point haue beene expressed in plainer words then it is for plainnesse was fittest for the expression of the common faith of Christians The motion of ascending and the place thereof heauen are both of them taken literally and properly and therefore their contraries descending and hell must likewise be properly taken without running to a figure And we may as well denie that in the Creed ascending signifieth a local motion vpwards and that heauen signifieth the seate of God and the receptacle of the blessed Spirits and with all say that by our Sauiours ascending into heauen is signified no other thing else but his enioying of some spirituall solace and heauenly ioy as to denie that his descending is a locall motion downewards and that hell is the seate of Sathan and of his slaues and as to say with the Genenians that by Christs descending into hell is nothing else meant but his feeling of some spirituall sorrowes or hellish horror If hell must be taken by a figure in the Creed then heauen in the same Creede shall bee but another figure and so should our Creed be but a Creed of figures and our faith a faith of figures And to say that there are many Creedes and confessions of faith wherein there is no mention made of Christs descending into hell it doth not argue that the authors and makers of those confessions did not beleeue this point for other clauses are likewise often wanting as namely in the Nicene Creede these words Borne of the Virgin Mary he was buried hee sitteth on the right hand of God I beleeue the Catholike Church the communion of Saints the resurrestion of the body and the life euerlasting aswell as those wordes he descended into hell And yet the Fathers no doubt were aswell perswaded of these things they left out as they were of those things they put in Againe it is sufficient that in none of the Creedes and confessions that euer were published aboue threescore the descending of Christ into hell is denied for yee shall not reade in one of them all such a clause I beleeue that Christs soule beeing seuered from the body went not downe into hell but ascended vp into heauen But not onely is it not denied so much as in one Creede of many but also it is affirmed expressely in some Creedes as namely in that of the Apostles and in that of Saint Athanasius and implicitly it is in all the Creedes and confessions that euer were made for more then fifteene hundreth yeares together for it is implied in the word suffered and in the word died For in Christ the Mediatours death are these three parts the separation of the soule from the body the collocation of the body being dead in the graue as being the bodies chamber of death and the migration of the seuered soule into the blacke house of death which is hell where it behooued the soules of all men to bee imprisoned except the Sonne of God by descending into that dungeon had deliuered and exempted all beleeuing soules from descending Psal 107.14 16. Iob 38.17 For he it was that brake those gates of brasse and brast the barres of yron asunder and to him the gates of hell and of death were opened for feare It is certaine that Christs soule went to some place after death and in the Creede wee finde no place mentioned but hell or heauen now in it there is mention made of his descending into hell after death but there is no mention made of his soules ascending vntill at what time being risen after forty daies aboade with his Disciples hee ascended visibly in his whole humane nature And that he ascended not into heauen before that time wee may gather it out of his owne wordes to Mary Magdalen Ioh. 20.17 saying Touch me not for I am not yet ascended to my Father there is not so much as one letter in the whole Scripture that sheweth that our Sauiour was to ascend twice to heauen or that his soule was to descend twice from heauen the which double