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A07268	The historie of S. Elizabeth daughter of the King of Hungarie. Written in French by Peter Mathieu and translated into English by Sr T.H.; Elizabeth, fille du roy d'Hongrie. English	Matthieu, Pierre, 1563-1621.; T.H., Sir (Thomas Hawkins), d. 1640.	1633 (1633)	STC 17663; ESTC S101124	24,992	96

there confutes him and my Lord of VVinchester against Peron Causabon against Baronius super annum Domini 34. nu 140. learnedly in the name of all England acknowledge a reuerence due to them as saint Augustine relates of the miracles done by the earth of the holy land which Hesperius reuerenced worthily as S. Augustine noteth He was faulty also in denying the saintes in heauen to pray for vs for this all learned protestant diuines allowe as conformable to all antiquity Howe carefull was saint Cyprian in this maine point though once indeed he gaue a scratch to our Blessed sauiour his coate yet he cutt it not and as saint Augustine sayth he reunited it againe with his owne blood Saint Augustine in all places against all spiritts of diuision Shall we heare a dismall sentence of his li. 4. Contra donatistas Cap. 8. Constituamus aliquem castum continentem non auarum non idolis seruientem hospitalitatem indigentibus ministrantem non cuiusquam inimicum non contentiosum patientem quietum nulli aemulantem nulli inuidentem sobrium frugalem sed haereticum nulli vtique dubium est propter hoc solum quod haereticus est regnum Dei non possessurum If he hath cutt our sauiour his wholl garment he hath no shelter for nakednes no defence against gods sentence of eternall death And herevpon we see with howe great care haue generall and Prouinciall Councells presently bene conuocated to cutt of all springing haeresies at their first buding As of Arius the Nicen in time of Siluester Of Macedonius the first Constantinopolitan in time of Damasus Of Nestorius the Ephesine in time of Celestinus Of Eutyches the Calcedon vnder Leo c. In like manner we might descend by al centuries Oportet quidem haereses esse saint Paule hath taught vs there hath bene and will be flawes in the church but a heauy VAE is adioyned to them that make them My desire therefore is where I see any breaches not to stretch them soe farre till I make them greater least saint Paul his VAE should lay hold on me rather if I can sowe them vp againe this I conceiue to be opus sanctorum This hath bene the imployment of antiquitie you knowe Salomon adiudged the childe not to be hers who vnnaturally would haue had it cutt in pieces that she might haue parte and the holy ghost commends his wisedome Howe much more will it argue the church not to be his mother who would haue her quartered Vnum ouile saith christ Our labour should be to keepe it one So he left it The woe lighteth heauily vpon those who first broke it and much heauier on those who delight in the breach I find not our best Protestant diuines to deny many saintes to haue bin euen in latter ages begotten and perfected in the church of Rome as of saint Thomas of Aquine my lord of Chichester doubteth not to stile him saint in his tracte of inuocation of saintes So Selden de successionibus saint Anselme so commonly stiled S. Bernard omnium calculo noe man so far callinge his owne iudgment in question as to doubt of it Soe doctour vvhite against vvhite dyed blacke so my lord of Ely in his funerall sermon my lord of VVinchester in his sermon of iustificacion frequently Causab in his exercitations Whittaker de ecclesia Saint Francis by very many Pantalion in Cron P. 95. saith he was a glorious saint melancthon with many learned diuines in corpore doctrinae lypsiae Saint Bonauenture ofen so intituled by that learned diuine who put out Dieta salutis and Catena aurea taken out of this learned and pious saints greater volumes Saint Brigitt by doctour Andrevves against Peron I could enlarge my selfe but I haue made choyce of these more eminent diuines and those whome our country hath reuerenced as Illustrious Prelats I can not omitt one more Master Hacclevvitt in his booke of Nauigations acknowledgeth saint Xauerius borne in these times in this Centurie to be a very great saint and discribes many particulers of his life I must stoppe in a subiect soe obuious I could wishe and so all good men that there were more departinge christians saints then to vse the phrase of the Machabees we should haue more louers of the brethren vvho vvould pray much for the people and for holy citty That is the church of god as Iudas found a Ieremy Mac. 2.15.14 for noe doubt in heauen they assist vs and by their holy prayers these diuisions in Religion would be cured and an vnity concluded Thus far antiquity and consent of holy fathers assure vs as all learned Protestants agree and in deed the creed declareth it for there is Communio sanctorum a fellowship betwixt the triumphant and militant church which must needs be by spirituall graces conferred By god vpon vs by their prayers So saint Gregorie Nazian oratione 18. learnedly explicateth and piously beleeueth Nay saint Nazianzen doth not only acknowledge that the saints pray for the church in generall but euen for his particuler flocke as there he saith of his deceased father Which passage of his I must needs say pincheth those who would haue only a generall intercession Neither is this all Antiquity goeth further saint Ambros To 1. l. de viduis saith Obsecrandi sunt qui nobis ad praesidium dati sunt martyres obsecrandi quorum videmur nobis quodam corporis pignore Patrocinium vindicare c. He saith more to the same purpose there Neither did I euer read any learned man that doubted this booke to be his except Master Perkins in his problemes but without reason only because there is a booke fathered on him vpon the Romanes wher in the first chapter he seemeth to teach the contrary But indeed it is cleare that this booke is not his but one Hillarius a Luciferan hereticke I haue read that saint Augustine citeth that booke by the name of one saint Hillarius how euer it seemes sure not to be his and the other sure to be his Saint Hierome in his funerall oration of saint Paula saith vale Paula cultoris tui vltimam senectutem adiuua orationibus what can this be called but inuocation saint Augustine de ciuit Li 21. C 10. Vos non martyribus templa sicut dijs sacrificamus oramus sed vtrumque in ordine ad Deum see how warily and Religiously this great saint speakes he denieth vs to pray to saints as to gods for so the gentills obiected against christians as is cleare in him and in saint Cyrill against Iulian li 6. yet he granteth expresly that we pray to them in order to god which passage or distinction of his me thinkes hath ended all the controuersy betwixte vs. So that if any deny this I say as Causab in his epistle to Bertius de Apostasia sanctorum in hoc video nostros docere contraria antiquis patribus for surely this is against them and therfore my lord of Chichester in the aforesaid tracte a booke

generally receiued in Englād strongly sheweth voluntary prayer to saints not to be forbidden and before him Luther himselfe in his epistle to Georgius Spalatinus and master Bilne as fox noteth 462. and others These and many more points of difference are now Ceased amongst the learned and indeed I thinke many more or all would Cease if only Learned men should examine them But they must not be such who in contempt of antiquity can publishe without blushinge a neglecte of the fathers with Non ignoro aliter loqui Patres as Kemnitius confidently doth 1. P. examinus Trid. or the Non debetis credere patribus as Pomecanus vpon Ionas it is a gudgeon soone swallowed but not easily disgested For surely in the iudgement of the wise it poysoneth the whole cause in hand if we beleeue Vincentius Lyrinensis in his 40. and 41. CC. yet Caluin L. 3. C. 5. Contemnes them all and C. 24. exclaimes against them for giuing pernicious doctrine of the vncertainty of election and was not this Nestorius his arrogancy when he saw antiquity was against him to bragge that all the doctours before him vnderstood not scripture as appeares in the councell of Ephesus and yet from him the french diuines haue Learned not only to neglect but to brande their gray haires with the note of superstition as you may see a whole tribe of them in Feuardentius in his Theomachia L. 11. de Purgatorio These are not they per quos fiet salus in Israel they are too hott spurred and therfore as Saint Paul saith prurientes auribus vnsetled in their tenents But milde and setled spiritts may finde the truth and by them we shall hope for a reconciliation to which we see many of the Learned happily to incline Againe to write the liues of saints and so conueigh the memory of their great vertues to posterity the holy scriptures did it in all the historicall partes and Eccles 24. aduiseth vs to it Sapientiam ipsorum narrent populi laudes eorum nuntiet ecclesia and it was the practise of antiquity Did not Saint Gregory Nissen write the life of Gregory Thaumaturgus Athanasius and Hierome of Saint Anthony the great Seuerus Sulpitius of Saint Martine Saint Gregory of Saint Bennett Saint Bonauenture that great and deuout scholeman as Gerson stileth him of Saint Francis that stupēdious cōtēner of the world But peraduenture it may be obiected that we are not assured this Blessed Queene to be a Saint To this I answere without all question she was a wery holy woman gaue great testimonies of vertue of the loue of god and her neighbour And in these two are consummated both lawes and prophetts all Christian perfection if we may beleeue our Blessed sauiour Thus the histories witnes of her and what is most of all it s the esteeme the whole church of god had of her Which I therfore added to preuent an obiection which might be made of a thiefe who as it is recorded in Saint Martin his life was being dead esteemed à Saint wheras he was indeed a wicked man and to that text of Saint Augustine if it be Saint Augustines multa corpora Sanctorum venerantur in terris quorum animae cruciantur in inferno Many bodies are reuerenced on earth whose soules are tormented in hell But this is by my former clause aboundantly satisfied for I beleene not that god will permitt the whole church to erre in so graue a pointe as to take a diuell for a Saint thoughe particuler churches and prouinces may be deceiued as all diuines agree neither did saint Augustine there intende any more as Ambrosius Catharinus Couaruuias in his resolutions L. 1. C. 10. with Learned Corduba in his questionary truly expound him or els you may with Bellar not improbably esteeme that he meaneth only those whome the Donatists reuerenced as their Saints And indeed what wonder if we should attribute soe much to the whole church in so graue and important a busines since after others Learned Cunaeus in his Rep Iudaeorum L. 1. C. 12. obserues out of the Thalmudists that the Priestes in the councell of Sanhedrim had infallible iudgment to decerne an Adulteresse from the Innocent and he addes the reason Sacrum quendam institutum non defuisse 70. senibus postquam solemni actu impositae manus illis essent Thus he grounded vpon gods promisse in Pentateuch to the Synagogue and can we doubt of the certainty of gods assistance to the church his spouse in decerning false and adulterate sanctity from feigned iustice and innocency is the spiritt of god lesse powerfull or carefull to direct her in so maine a pointe as to knowe his heauenly guestes from his and her abiured enemies or is it lesse behouefull for her to haue that sacred instinct or tincture of the holy Ghoste since christ his handes were imposed vpon her solemnely on the Cross especially in soe dubious a case as to knowe whether she should celebrate the memory of the dead with thankesgiuing as antiquity did of martyrs or with horrour as they did of Apostataes and the like me thinkes the shadowe should not exceed the substance hauinge larger promises of the directiue spiritt of god then they Paraclitus docebit omnia is it not a good Consequece if all then this neither doe I thinke my L. of Couentry and Lichfeild wil find difficulty in this especially Thesi 2. Fol. 365. se 3. in his grande Imposture My Lord of VVinchester deceased plainly held it against Peron in the end and so doth my Lord of London against Foster and sure I am Saint Augustine would haue presently subscribed to what the church soe generally should haue receiued Thus you see my grownds good christian reader wherefore I haue perused and approued this history my finall motiue was that we may be incited to vertue since it is an ornament for Princes Crownes And this is indeed the cheifest honour we can giue to saints as saint Nazian Oratione 18. speaking of Saint Cyprian saith the blessed Martir hoc dedit in mandatis commanded by him that his honourers shall be his imitatours Chrys ser 1. de Martir To. 3. hath to the same purpose Saint Augustine ser 47. de Sanctis Solemnitates Martyrum exhortationes Martyriorum the memories and solemnities of saints are the instructions of sinners their liues our examples Farewell Let vs follow Saint Paule his counsell Pray for one another to be inabled to followe these Princely steps this heauenly Kings high way to eternall happines Your Friend THE HISTORY OF ELIZABETH OF HVNGARY THERE was a tyme when all the fauours of fortune rested in the family of the kings of Hungary as all the fabulous Deityes were assembled togeather in the Pantheon of Rome It seemed shee brake her wings that shee might not take her flight to any other place forsooke all the powers of the North to become tributary to this Crowne But in the end the blind creature not esteemed a Goddesse but by men who