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we_o any_o thing_n de_fw-fr prescript_n c._n 8._o arnobius_n lib._n 3._o contra_fw-la gent._n the_o first_o god_n be_v enough_o to_o we_o in_o he_o we_o worship_v all_o that_o be_v to_o be_v worship_v lactantius_n agree_v with_o he_o 17._o invocatio_fw-la supponit_fw-la omnipraesentiam_fw-la lib._n 6._o p._n 183._o instit_fw-la lib._n 2._o cap._n 16._o 17._o for_o he_o advise_v all_o man_n to_o look_v up_o and_o adore_v nothing_o worship_v nothing_o but_o the_o majesty_n of_o god_n our_o father_n and_o maker_n eusebius_n caesar_n demonstr_n lib._n 1._o c._n 5._o &_o lib._n 3._o c._n 3._o show_v that_o the_o jewish_a church_n direct_v their_o adoration_n to_o god_n only_o and_o for_o christian_n he_o affirm_v lib._n 4._o c._n 6._o that_o they_o pray_v to_o god_n only_o in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n not_o of_o saint_n or_o angel_n as_o their_o mediator_n for_o see_v say_v he_o it_o be_v peculiar_a to_o christ_n as_o the_o great_a high_a priest_n to_o frame_v for_o we_o spiritual_a sacrifice_n in_o praise_n and_o thanksgiving_n and_o because_o as_o a_o priest_n he_o have_v offer_v up_o himself_o a_o perfect_a sacrifice_n to_o god_n for_o we_o 7._o v._o origen_n supra_fw-la psalm_n 20._o si_fw-mi cultus_fw-la tantum_fw-la dicatur_fw-la non_fw-la soli_fw-la deo_fw-la debetur_fw-la sed_fw-la religio_fw-la etc._n etc._n aug._n de_fw-fr civit._fw-la dei_fw-la l._n 10._o c._n 1._o de_fw-fr praep._n lib._n 12._o c._n 7._o hence_o we_o say_v to_o he_o let_v he_o remember_v all_o thy_o sacrifice_n etc._n etc._n here_o we_o see_v propitiation_n be_v the_o ground_n of_o intercession_n as_o for_o angel_n he_o grant_v to_o they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d honour_n according_a to_o the_o dignity_n of_o their_o excellent_a nature_n so_o do_v we_o but_o reserve_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o religious_a honour_n or_o worship_n to_o god_n only_o this_o be_v the_o very_a doctrine_n of_o protestant_n the_o due_a honour_n of_o saint_n he_o explain_v thus_o we_o go_v to_o their_o sepulcher_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d at_o they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o make_v prayer_n not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ipsis_fw-la to_o they_o as_o trapezuntius_fw-la false_o if_o not_o perfidious_o translate_v it_o but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d at_o they_o which_o be_v another_o thing_n but_o let_v we_o hear_v the_o testimony_n of_o athanasius_n the_o true_o great_a who_o every_o where_o in_o his_o oration_n against_o the_o arian_n arian_n orat._n tertia_fw-la in_o arian_n prove_v as_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o father_n unanimous_o do_v christ_n to_o be_v true_a god_n by_o this_o argument_n especial_o because_o he_o be_v pray_v to_o dei_fw-la v._o novatian_n de_fw-fr trinit_fw-la c._n 14._o si_fw-mi homo_fw-la tantummodo_fw-la christus_fw-la cur_n in_o orationibus_fw-la invocaeur_fw-fr etc._n etc._n quomodo_fw-la adest_fw-la ubique_fw-la invocatus_fw-la cum_fw-la haec_fw-la hominis_fw-la natura_fw-la non_fw-la sit_fw-la sed_fw-la dei_fw-la which_o be_v of_o no_o force_n if_o any_o creature_n saint_n or_o angel_n may_v be_v in_o any_o sense_n invocate_v particular_o in_o his_o four_o oration_n against_o the_o arian_n from_o that_o prayer_n of_o saint_n paul_n god_n the_o father_n of_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n direct_v our_o way_n unto_o you_o he_o infer_v christ_n to_o be_v consubstantial_a with_o the_o father_n for_o no_o man_n be_v a_o true_a catholic_n which_o appear_v hereby_o a_o papist_n be_v not_o will_v pray_v to_o receive_v any_o thing_n of_o god_n and_o angel_n or_o any_o creature_n neither_o say_v he_o have_v any_o christian_n as_o yet_o than_o invocation_n of_o saint_n or_o angel_n be_v unknown_a and_o unpractised_a among_o all_o true_a christian_n use_v this_o form_n of_o prayer_n or_o word_n god_n and_o a_o angel_n we_o may_v add_v saint_n grant_v it_o you_o endor_n laus_fw-la dec_n virginique_fw-la mariae_fw-la in_o fine_a tom_n 2._o &_o 3_o bellarm._n see_v dr._n brevint'_v saul_n and_o samuel_n at_o endor_n whether_o papist_n use_v not_o such_o form_n of_o word_n in_o their_o prayer_n be_v too_o notorious_a to_o be_v prove_v to_o any_o who_o be_v acquaint_v with_o their_o book_n of_o devotion_n then_o take_v notice_n of_o one_o of_o their_o chief_a argument_n now_o press_v by_o our_o new_a roman_a catholic_n for_o proof_n of_o their_o invocation_n of_o angel_n to_o wit_n the_o word_n of_o die_a jacob_n the_o angel_n that_o deliver_v i_o out_o of_o all_o my_o distress_n bless_v the_o lad_n athanasius_n as_o the_o other_o father_n unanimous_o expound_v they_o not_o of_o any_o create_a angel_n but_o of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n who_o be_v god_n and_o the_o angel_n of_o the_o covenant_n who_o jacob_n see_v face_n to_o face_n at_o peniel_n and_o term_v god._n arian_n so_o euseb_n hist_o lib._n 1._o cap._n 2._o ambrose_n in_o psalm_n 43._o novatian_n de_fw-fr trinit_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d aug._n he_o agnoscunt_fw-la se_fw-la esse_fw-la creaturas_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d athanas_n orat._n 3._o in_o arian_n he_o add_v david_n pray_v to_o none_o for_o deliverance_n but_o to_o god_n to_o thou_o o_o lord_n have_v i_o cry_v etc._n etc._n and_o conclude_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d it_o be_v evident_a the_o patriarch_n jacob_n join_v none_o in_o his_o prayer_n to_o god_n but_o the_o word_n who_o he_o therefore_o call_v the_o angel_n because_o he_o alone_o reveal_v the_o father_n do_v not_o they_o then_o willing_o abuse_v themselves_o and_o other_o who_o take_v athanasius_n for_o a_o roman_n catholic_n or_o invocation_n of_o angel_n for_o a_o article_n of_o the_o ancient_a catholic_n faith_n hold_v by_o all_o sound_a christian_n in_o all_o age_n or_o that_o the_o angel_n appear_v to_o the_o old_a patriarch_n be_v a_o create_a angel_n i_o will_v add_v his_o contemporary_a saint_n hilary_n who_o although_o he_o grant_v which_o protestant_n deny_v not_o that_o the_o angel_n pray_v for_o the_o church_n militant_a here_o on_o earth_n yet_o he_o no_o where_n allow_v invocation_n of_o they_o but_o on_o psalm_n 29_o and_o 124._o he_o advise_v all_o christian_n to_o pray_v to_o god_n in_o regard_n he_o be_v omnipresent_v in_o all_o place_n ready_a to_o help_v which_o be_v not_o true_a of_o saint_n or_o angel_n in_o like_a manner_n on_o psalm_n 140._o he_o say_v 106._o in_o maledicto_fw-la est_fw-la religio_fw-la creaturae_fw-la hil._n de_fw-fr trinit_fw-la l._n 8._o p._n 106._o magnificentiae_fw-la dei_fw-la est_fw-la orari_fw-la it_o pertain_v to_o the_o magnificence_n or_o prerogative_n of_o god_n to_o be_v pray_v unto_o hitherto_o the_o coast_n be_v clear_a and_o we_o have_v the_o unanimous_a consent_n of_o the_o father_n for_o about_o 340_o year_n after_o christ_n against_o invocation_n of_o saint_n angel_n or_o any_o creature_n whence_o we_o undoubted_o conclude_v that_o it_o be_v though_o a_o part_n of_o the_o present_a roman_a yet_o not_o of_o the_o true_a ancient_a and_o catholic_n faith_n believe_v semper_fw-la ubique_fw-la &_o apud_fw-la omnes_fw-la always_o in_o all_o place_n by_o all_o sound_a christian_n for_o such_o doctrine_n as_o vincentius_n lyrinensis_n right_o note_n be_v only_o true_o catholic_n that_o be_v universal_a as_o the_o name_n itself_o catholic_n signify_v to_o proceed_v basil_n the_o great_a hom._n 3._o in_o hexaemeron_n all_o honour_n worship_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v due_a to_o god_n only_o in_o psalm_n 7._o he_o say_v our_o hope_n be_v to_o be_v place_v in_o god_n only_o in_o psal_n 18._o that_o if_o any_o man_n worship_v the_o creature_n beside_o though_o with_o the_o creator_n he_o give_v not_o glory_n to_o god_n but_o the_o creature_n and_o in_o psalm_n 45._o instead_o of_o saint_n and_o angel_n he_o tell_v we_o that_o in_o all_o our_o necessity_n god_n be_v our_o only_a refuge_n in_o his_o funeral_n oration_n on_o gordius_n he_o acquaint_v we_o with_o the_o true_a end_n of_o those_o commendatory_a or_o commemoratory_n solemnity_n observe_v on_o the_o natalitia_fw-la or_o festival_n of_o the_o martyr_n to_o wit_n to_o glorify_v god_n and_o to_o stir_v up_o the_o people_n to_o imitation_n of_o their_o virtue_n but_o no_o mention_n find_v we_o there_o of_o pray_v to_o they_o i_o be_o not_o ignorant_a that_o out_o of_o basil_n nazianzen_n gregory_n nyssen_n etc._n etc._n their_o funeral_n oration_n some_o rhetorical_a apostrophe_n to_o and_o compellation_n of_o the_o saint_n decease_v be_v urge_v for_o invocation_n of_o saint_n by_o bellarmine_n and_o other_o to_o which_o i_o answer_v first_o that_o in_o the_o most_o primitive_a and_o ancient_a father_n we_o as_o we_o have_v see_v find_v they_o not_o from_o the_o beginning_n it_o be_v not_o so_o second_o that_o rhetorical_a flourish_n of_o eloquence_n be_v no_o safe_a and_o sure_a ground_n to_o build_v a_o article_n of_o faith_n upon_o as_o theodoret_n grant_v non_fw-la ego_fw-la dogmatum_fw-la regulam_fw-la ea_fw-la duco_n 3_o dial._n 3_o quae_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la
panegyricè_fw-la dicantur_fw-la the_o father_n in_o their_o panegyrical_a oration_n and_o popular_a sermon_n as_o sixtus_n senensis_n a_o papist_n acknowledge_v speak_v often_o affectuum_fw-la impetu_fw-la &_o orationis_fw-la cursu_fw-la rapti_fw-la 152._o biblioth_n lib._n 6._o annotat_fw-la 152._o such_o thing_n as_o take_v according_a to_o the_o literal_a and_o strict_a sense_n can_v be_v justify_v to_o give_v one_o instance_n among_o many_o nazianzen_n in_o his_o funeral_n oration_n on_o st._n basil_n say_v of_o he_o now_o in_o heaven_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o i_o suppose_v for_o he_o be_v not_o certain_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o offer_v up_o sacrifice_n for_o we_o yet_o no_o papist_n will_v say_v that_o he_o celebrate_v mass_n or_o as_o we_o speak_v the_o holy_a encharist_n or_o consecrate_v it_o in_o heaven_n as_o that_o phrase_n of_o offer_v sacrifice_n be_v sometime_o use_v by_o the_o father_n in_o like_a manner_n he_o say_v of_o his_o father_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o he_o do_v in_o heaven_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d fight_n for_o his_o flock_n on_o earth_n three_o many_o of_o their_o expression_n be_v not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d prayer_n but_o rather_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d wish_n so_o nazianzen_n in_o his_o oration_n on_o basil_n thou_o saint_n montague_n of_o invocation_n of_o the_o saint_n o_o sacred_a and_o divine_a head_n respicio_fw-la nos_fw-la quaeso_fw-la de_fw-la caelum_fw-la look_v on_o we_o from_o heaven_n so_o billius_n a_o papist_n false_o translate_v it_o in_o the_o greek_a the_o word_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d o_o si_fw-mi or_o utinam_fw-la nos_fw-la de_fw-la caelum_fw-la respiceres_fw-la o_o that_o or_o i_o wish_v thou_o may_v look_v down_o from_o heaven_n on_o we_o so_o that_o it_o be_v rather_o a_o wish_n than_o a_o true_a prayer_n this_o be_v certain_a nazianzen_n in_o the_o oration_n abovementioned_a no_o where_o pray_v to_o his_o own_o father_n 4._o they_o speak_v doubtful_o and_o uncertain_o so_o nazianzen_n make_v a_o apostrophe_n to_o the_o soul_n of_o constantius_n put_v in_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d if_o thou_o have_v any_o sense_n or_o knowledge_n of_o our_o affair_n i_o be_o compel_v to_o speak_v to_o he_o as_o present_v more_o plain_o in_o his_o oration_n on_o his_o sister_n gorgonia_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d if_o there_o be_v such_o a_o reward_n bestow_v on_o pious_a soul_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o thou_o have_v any_o knowledge_n or_o regard_n of_o our_o affair_n receive_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o orationem_fw-la my_o prayer_n for_o he_o not_o where_o pray_v to_o she_o or_o saint_n basil_n or_o his_o father_n but_o my_o speech_n sermonem_fw-la which_o certain_o he_o will_v have_v do_v have_v he_o be_v a_o right_a roman_n catholic_n but_o who_o can_v imagine_v or_o believe_v that_o nazianzen_n basil_n and_o other_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n will_v have_v speak_v concern_v the_o saint_n depart_v their_o knowledge_n of_o humane_a affair_n so_o doubtful_o and_o uncertain_o if_o they_o have_v in_o the_o least_o believe_v that_o invocation_n of_o saint_n in_o heaven_n be_v a_o article_n of_o catholic_n faith_n necessary_a to_o be_v believe_v under_o peril_n of_o heresy_n and_o damnation_n credat_fw-la judaeus_n apella_n non_fw-la ego_fw-la but_o before_o i_o go_v on_o i_o will_v take_v particular_a notice_n of_o a_o place_n quote_v by_o bellarmine_n out_o of_o saint_n basil_n oration_n on_o the_o 40_o martyr_n in_o these_o word_n qui_fw-la aliquâ_fw-la premitur_fw-la angustiâ_fw-la ad_fw-la hos_fw-la confugiat_fw-la etc._n etc._n he_o that_o be_v in_o any_o affliction_n or_o strait_n let_v he_o fly_v to_o these_o i._n e._n these_o martyr_n to_o this_o i_o answer_v first_o that_o bellarmine_n abuse_v his_o reader_n with_o a_o false_a latin_a translation_n which_o be_v not_o unusual_a with_o he_o in_o the_o greek_a it_o be_v only_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o let_v he_o 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intercession_n who_o entreat_v not_o peter_n or_o james_n to_o beg_v for_o she_o but_o go_v direct_o to_o christ_n herself_o and_o receive_v a_o better_a answer_n from_o he_o then_o he_o add_v infra_fw-la v._o ambrose_n infra_fw-la there_o be_v no_o need_n of_o intercessor_n with_o god._n i_o come_v to_o theodoret_n who_o in_o his_o comment_n coloss_n 2._o have_v these_o word_n which_o give_v a_o deadly_a blow_n to_o this_o new_a point_n of_o faith_n to_o wit_n worship_v angel_n mention_v and_o condemn_v by_o saint_n paul_n in_o that_o chapter_n v._o 18._o they_o say_v he_o who_o defend_v the_o law_n persuade_v the_o colossian_n to_o worship_n angel_n say_v that_o the_o law_n be_v give_v by_o they_o observe_v their_o reason_n be_v not_o because_o they_o be_v god_n or_o creator_n of_o the_o world_n but_o deliverer_n of_o the_o law_n as_o saint_n stephen_n note_v act_v 7._o this_o error_n say_v he_o remain_v a_o long_a time_n in_o phrygia_n and_o pisidia_n wherefore_o the_o synod_n of_o 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know_v we_o not_o whence_o he_o infer_v si_fw-la tanti_fw-la patriarchae_fw-la etc._n etc._n if_o such_o great_a patriarch_n be_v ignorant_a of_o what_o happen_v to_o the_o people_n who_o spring_v from_o they_o how_o be_v the_o dead_a interest_v or_o concern_v in_o know_v and_o help_v their_o friend_n he_o confirm_v his_o conclusion_n thus_o if_o the_o dead_a be_v interest_v in_o the_o affair_n of_o the_o live_n or_o speak_v to_o we_o in_o dream_n my_o dear_a mother_n will_v no_o night_n he_o absent_v from_o i_o but_o it_o be_v true_a as_o in_o the_o psalm_n my_o father_n and_o my_o mother_n have_v forsake_v i_o etc._n etc._n if_o our_o parent_n have_v forsake_v we_o who_o else_o among_o the_o dead_a know_v what_o we_o do_v or_o suffer_v now_o our_o adversary_n grant_v that_o unless_o the_o saint_n depart_v know_v our_o particular_a state_n and_o want_n it_o be_v vain_a and_o to_o no_o purpose_n to_o pray_v unto_o they_o three_o he_o answer_v a_o objection_n draw_v from_o dives_n his_o 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