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into_o the_o water_n be_v require_v yet_o according_a to_o the_o intention_n sprinkle_v be_v sufficient_a but_o here_o i_o demand_v of_o the_o romi_v whether_o any_o thing_n touch_v the_o manner_n of_o receive_v the_o eucharist_n be_v deliver_v in_o christ_n word_n or_o not_o and_o if_o nothing_o than_o our_o saviour_n treat_v not_o either_o of_o spiritual_a or_o sacramental_a eat_n or_o drink_v for_o both_o these_o belong_v to_o the_o manner_n and_o if_o he_o speak_v about_o the_o manner_n than_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n must_v be_v sacramental_o receive_v as_o well_o as_o his_o body_n but_o it_o be_v not_o receive_v sacramental_o utroque_fw-la under_o bread_n alone_o because_o to_o receive_v sacramental_o be_v to_o receive_v under_o the_o proper_a and_o individual_a sign_n represent_v the_o blood_n receive_v which_o be_v wine_n and_o implicit_a and_o virtual_a receive_n of_o christ_n blood_n be_v spiritual_a drink_n and_o this_o be_v perform_v out_o of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o 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the_o church_n militant_a to_o the_o bless_a saint_n and_o angel_n be_v lawful_a and_o that_o we_o may_v request_v they_o to_o be_v comprecant_v fuerit_fw-la and_o to_o make_v intercession_n to_o god_n in_o our_o behalf_n yet_o the_o invocation_n of_o they_o according_a to_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n wherein_o they_o pray_v first_o of_o all_o to_o saint_n and_o in_o the_o last_o place_n to_o christ_n and_o their_o excessive_a worship_n by_o vow_n oath_n offerture_n conjoin_v their_o satisfaction_n with_o christ_n digni_fw-la and_o confidence_n in_o their_o merit_n and_o adore_v their_o image_n can_v be_v justify_v for_o this_o manner_n of_o devotion_n have_v no_o foundation_n express_v or_o enfold_v in_o divine_a revelation_n and_o the_o primitive_a church_n do_v not_o appoint_v or_o practice_v the_o same_o and_o it_o encroach_v so_o near_o upon_o the_o office_n of_o christ_n our_o sole_a redcemer_n mediator_n and_o advocate_n that_o without_o express_v and_o manifest_a precept_n or_o approbation_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n acceperis_fw-la we_o may_v not_o esteem_v it_o lawful_a the_o doctrine_n of_o our_o church_n concern_v invocation_n and_o adoration_n of_o the_o bless_a trinity_n our_o access_n to_o god_n by_o supplication_n and_o prayer_n in_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n christ_n our_o dependence_n upon_o the_o sole_a merit_n and_o satisfaction_n of_o our_o all-sufficient_a redeemer_n and_o saviour_n have_v precept_n example_n promise_v reason_n and_o warranty_n deliver_v in_o the_o express_a manifest_a and_o indubitate_a word_n of_o god_n joh._n 14._o 13_o 14._o &_o cap._n 16.24_o 1._o joh._n 2.1_o heb._n 4._o 15_o 16._o 1._o pet._n 2.5_o heb._n 13.15_o also_o we_o have_v certainty_n of_o faith_n that_o christ_n jesus_n our_o intercessor_n and_o advocate_n have_v distinct_a and_o perfect_a knowledge_n particular_a and_o general_a of_o our_o quality_n state_n and_o action_n heb._n 4.13_o his_o office_n be_v to_o make_v intercession_n for_o we_o rom._n 8.34_o heb._n 7._o 25._o he_o invit_v we_o most_o love_o to_o come_v unto_o he_o math._n 11.28_o our_o heavenly_a father_n always_o hear_v he_o john_n 11._o 42._o his_o compassion_n towards_o we_o exceed_v the_o piety_n of_o any_o creature_n joh._n 10._o 11._o &_o 15._o 13._o heb._n 4_o 15._o desperarem_fw-la we_o may_v more_o safe_o and_o with_o great_a comfort_n speak_v to_o our_o saviour_n than_o to_o any_o saint_n or_o angel_n spirituum_fw-la the_o holy_a spirit_n help_v our_o infirmity_n and_o teach_v we_o to_o make_v intercession_n according_a to_o the_o will_n of_o god_n 30._o rom._n 8.26_o 27._o therefore_o our_o pray_v to_o god_n in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n only_o our_o supplication_n to_o the_o father_n to_o accept_v we_o for_o the_o sole_a merit_n of_o our_o saviour_n be_v a_o most_o safe_a and_o faithful_a devotion_n and_o our_o assurance_n be_v ground_v upon_o the_o word_n of_o faith_n and_o have_v such_o promise_n we_o can_v be_v deceive_v in_o our_o hope_n 2._o tim._n 2.13_o tit._n 1._o 2._o but_o on_o the_o contrary_a romish_a invocation_n direct_v to_o saint_n angel_n and_o the_o bless_a virgin_n their_o oblation_n of_o the_o merit_n and_o satisfaction_n of_o creature_n with_o many_o other_o branch_n of_o their_o holy_a seem_a devotion_n have_v neither_o precept_n example_n or_o promise_v in_o the_o large_a book_n of_o god_n notwithstanding_o the_o same_o book_n be_v most_o abundant_a in_o teach_v the_o duty_n and_o form_n of_o prayer_n and_o some_o of_o our_o best_a learned_a adversary_n confess_v that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n be_v neither_o express_o nor_o infold_o teach_v in_o holy_a scripture_n 〈◊〉_d therefore_o his_o most_o excellent_a majesty_n our_o sovereign_a lord_n and_o king_n to_o who_o sacred_a person_n the_o jesuit_n direct_v his_o former_a speech_n may_v with_o unspeakable_a joy_n and_o comfort_n glory_n that_o he_o be_v in_o this_o article_n a_o defender_n and_o propugner_n of_o that_o faith_n which_o be_v teach_v from_o heaven_n by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o papistical_a invocation_n be_v no_o plant_n grow_v in_o the_o paradise_n manducate_v of_o holy_a scripture_n by_o their_o own_o confession_n neither_o have_v they_o any_o mean_n infallible_a to_o ascertain_v themselves_o and_o other_o that_o the_o same_o be_v a_o plant_n which_o the_o heavenly_a father_n have_v plant_v or_o that_o their_o devotion_n in_o this_o kind_n be_v necessary_a profitable_a or_o acceptable_a to_o god_n dicimus_fw-la jesuit_fw-la in_o which_o question_n i_o will_v suppose_v without_o large_a and_o particular_a proof_n be_v able_a to_o prove_v it_o by_o testimony_n undeniable_a if_o need_v be_v that_o worship_n and_o invocation_n of_o saint_n have_v be_v general_o receive_v in_o the_o whole_a christian_a church_n at_o least_o ever_o since_o the_o day_n of_o constantine_n a_o thing_n so_o clear_a that_o chemnitius_n do_v write_v in_o this_o sort_n haer._n most_o of_o the_o father_n as_o nazianzen_n nissen_n basill_n theodoret_n ambrose_n hierome_n austin_n etc._n etc._n do_v not_o dispute_v but_o avouch_v the_o soul_n of_o martyr_n and_o saint_n to_o hear_v the_o petition_n of_o those_o that_o pray_v they_o go_v often_o to_o the_o monument_n of_o martyr_n and_o invocate_v martyr_n by_o name_n and_o see_v these_o father_n praise_v and_o practise_v this_o custom_n as_o receive_v from_o ancestor_n and_o as_o a_o matter_n of_o faith_n condemn_v the_o contradictor_n thereof_o as_o novelist_n and_o heretic_n to_o wit_n aerius_n and_o vigilantius_n as_o be_v confess_v i_o may_v further_o conclude_v that_o that_o custom_n do_v not_o then_o begin_v but_o be_v come_v down_o from_o the_o apostle_n which_o be_v confirm_v by_o testimony_n of_o the_o magdeburgian_o in_o acknowledge_v that_o in_o the_o father_n next_o 〈◊〉_d the_o apostolical_a time_n be_v find_v non_fw-la obscura_fw-la vestigia_fw-la inuocationis_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la as_o appear_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o saint_n ireneus_fw-la term_v the_o 〈◊〉_d virgin_n the_o advocate_n of_o eve_n that_o be_v of_o her_o child_n answer_n undeniable_a you_o presuppose_v that_o which_o notwithstanding_o your_o face_n you_o will_v never_o be_v able_a to_o prove_v to_o wit_n that_o innocation_n of_o saint_n according_a to_o the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o late_a roman_a church_n have_v be_v general_o and_o universal_o receive_v as_o a_o article_n of_o faith_n or_o necessary_a duty_n ever_o since_o the_o day_n of_o constantine_n neither_o have_v chemnitius_n who_o you_o allege_v affirm_v this_o but_o rather_o say_v the_o contrary_a first_o he_o say_v est_fw-la that_o in_o the_o primitive_a church_n until_o two_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n this_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n be_v utter_o unknown_a second_o he_o affirm_v that_o about_o the_o year_n 240._o some_o seed_n of_o this_o doctrine_n begin_v to_o be_v sow_v in_o the_o church_n by_o origen_n sanctorum_fw-la three_o he_o say_v express_o ignoravit_fw-la that_o for_o three_o hundred_o and_o fifty_o year_n and_o upward_o the_o public_a practice_n of_o invocation_n be_v unknown_a in_o the_o church_n and_o then_o about_o the_o year_n 370_o it_o begin_v to_o be_v speak_v of_o in_o public_a assembly_n by_o basil_n nyssen_n and_o nazianzen_n upon_o occasion_n of_o their_o panegyricall_a oration_n introduceretur_fw-la notavimus_fw-la four_o he_o add_v declamationes_fw-la that_o notwithstanding_o these_o oration_n it_o be_v not_o general_o and_o universal_o receive_v in_o those_o time_n but_o both_o doubt_v of_o and_o also_o reprove_v and_o condemn_v by_o some_o vixit_fw-la and_o about_o the_o 400._o year_n saint_n chrysostome_n interpose_v and_o labour_v to_o reduce_v people_n to_o the_o ancient_a form_n of_o invocation_n posuerit_fw-la and_o proceed_v in_o his_o historical_a narration_n he_o show_v out_o of_o nicephorus_n lib._n 15._o cap._n 28._o that_o petrus_n gnapheus_n invocaretur_fw-la anno_fw-la 470_o condemn_v by_o the_o first_o universal_a synod_n of_o heresy_n be_v the_o first_o author_n among_o the_o grecian_n of_o mix_v
secret_n nor_o to_o concur_v with_o he_o in_o all_o action_n of_o empery_n jesuit_fw-la second_o s._n paul_n say_v now_o we_o know_v but_o in_o part_n 9_o we_o prophesy_v but_o in_o part_n but_o when_o that_o of_o perfection_n shall_v come_v that_o of_o part_n shall_v be_v evacuate_v i_o now_o know_v but_o in_o part_n than_o i_o shall_v know_v as_o i_o be_o know_v by_o which_o word_n the_o apostle_n signify_v that_o all_o knowledge_n both_o humane_a and_o divine_a particular_o the_o gift_n of_o prophecy_n be_v contain_v eminent_o in_o the_o beatifical_a light_n so_o that_o the_o bless_a saint_n have_v the_o gift_n of_o prophecy_n in_o a_o more_o excellent_a degree_n than_o have_v the_o prophet_n in_o this_o world_n but_o by_o the_o light_n of_o prophecy_n holy_a man_n unite_v with_o god_n can_v see_v the_o secret_n of_o heart_n as_o s._n paul_n say_v by_o the_o gift_n of_o prophecy_n the_o 14._o secret_n of_o heart_n be_v manifest_v and_o also_o see_v thing_n absent_a be_v present_a by_o light_n of_o understanding_n from_o whence_o they_o be_v absent_a according_a to_o their_o substance_n the_o prophet_n elizeus_fw-la see_v in_o absence_n what_o pass_v betwixt_o his_o servant_n gehezi_n and_o naaman_n to_o who_o he_o say_v my_o heart_n be_v 5.24_o there_o present_a with_o thou_o with_o far_o great_a reason_n say_v s._n augustine_n the_o saint_n of_o god_n even_o with_o eye_n of_o body_n vigilant_a close_v up_o shall_v see_v all_o thing_n not_o only_o present_a but_o also_o from_o which_o they_o be_v corporal_o absent_a this_o be_v that_o which_o saint_n hierome_n do_v so_o earnest_o defend_v against_o vigilantius_n that_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o martyr_n be_v present_a where_o their_o shrine_n and_o relic_n be_v and_o never_o absent_a but_o still_o ready_a to_o hear_v the_o prayer_n of_o their_o suppliant_n not_o think_v as_o dr_n field_n impose_v upon_o he_o that_o they_o be_v present_a in_o so_o 20._o many_o place_n substantial_o according_a to_o their_o soul_n but_o that_o they_o be_v present_a as_o elizeus_fw-la be_v present_a unto_o gehezi_n in_o spirit_n behold_v what_o pass_v as_o clear_o as_o if_o they_o be_v corporal_o present_a answer_n that_o the_o bless_a saint_n in_o heaven_n have_v the_o gift_n of_o prophecy_n formal_o eminent_o or_o in_o actu_fw-la exercito_fw-la in_o respect_n of_o all_o individual_a object_n be_v neither_o express_o affirm_v by_o s._n paul_n neither_o can_v it_o be_v collect_v from_o his_o doctrine_n for_o the_o use_n and_o end_n of_o this_o gift_n be_v the_o edification_n of_o the_o church_n militant_a 1._o cor._n 12._o 10._o eph._n 4._o 11_o 12._o and_o because_o this_o end_n cease_v in_o regard_n of_o the_o bless_a saint_n apoc._n 14._o 13_o therefore_o we_o have_v no_o certainty_n pertinent_a that_o they_o ordinary_o and_o perpetual_o enjoy_v the_o same_o and_o if_o it_o be_v grant_v that_o they_o have_v this_o gift_n eminent_o yet_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o they_o have_v the_o exercise_n of_o it_o according_a to_o every_o material_a object_n it_o have_v in_o this_o life_n for_o some_o object_n of_o prophecy_n be_v contingent_a and_o accidental_o cognoscuntur_fw-la belong_v to_o prophetical_a grace_n and_o every_o act_n of_o knowledge_n belong_v not_o to_o the_o perfection_n of_o the_o glorify_a state_n imperfection_n of_o knowledge_n to_o wit_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o manner_n of_o know_v and_o the_o object_n know_v and_o the_o subject_a understanding_n shall_v be_v remove_v in_o the_o blissful_a state_n but_o where_o do_v s._n paul_n affirm_v that_o the_o bless_a by_o divine_a vision_n or_o revelation_n understand_v all_o particular_a object_n which_o they_o know_v in_o this_o life_n aquinas_n himself_o tendit_fw-la have_v these_o word_n to_o know_v all_o particular_a or_o individual_a thing_n and_o the_o cogitation_n and_o action_n of_o the_o same_o belong_v not_o to_o the_o perfection_n of_o a_o create_a understanding_n neither_o do_v his_o natural_a desire_n affect_v this_o also_o the_o same_o author_n ibid._n with_o hugo_n lyra_n and_o other_o comment_v upon_o s._n paul_n word_n 1._o cor._n 13._o 12._o then_o shall_v i_o know_v even_o as_o also_o i_o be_o know_v expound_v they_o of_o the_o intuitive_a knowledge_n which_o b._n saint_n in_o heaven_n shall_v have_v of_o god_n himself_o and_o not_o of_o all_o other_o create_v object_n but_o from_o hence_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o saint_n decease_v shall_v intuitive_o or_o by_o revelation_n know_v all_o other_o inferior_a thing_n as_o i_o have_v former_o prove_v in_o my_o answer_n to_o the_o jesuit_n second_v paragraph_n s._n augustine_n d._n civit._n dei_fw-la lib._n 22._o cap._n 29_o etc._n prosper_n d._n vit._n cont._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 4._o etc._n speak_v of_o the_o knowledge_n of_o bless_a man_n after_o their_o resurrection_n affirm_v that_o when_o they_o shall_v be_v all_o of_o they_o together_o in_o heaven_n their_o heart_n shall_v be_v open_a each_o of_o they_o to_o other_o but_o that_o the_o heart_n of_o they_o which_o remain_v upon_o earth_n be_v open_a to_o the_o 〈◊〉_d saint_n be_v not_o affirm_v by_o these_o father_n s._n hierome_n against_o vigilantius_n speak_v in_o heat_n of_o disputation_n but_o he_o affirm_v in_o another_o place_n noscere_fw-la that_o because_o jesus_n know_v the_o thought_n of_o some_o of_o the_o scribe_n he_o do_v thereby_o show_v himself_o to_o be_v god_n jesuit_fw-la three_o it_o be_v clear_o to_o be_v prove_v by_o scripture_n that_o holy_a angel_n see_v the_o prayer_n and_o action_n and_o affection_n of_o man_n in_o the_o apocalypse_n a_o angel_n offer_v unto_o god_n the_o 4._o prayer_n of_o man_n which_o he_o can_v not_o have_v do_v have_v he_o not_o know_v they_o answer_n first_o the_o place_n of_o s._n john_n apocal._n 8.4_o prove_v not_o either_o clear_o or_o obscure_o that_o holy_a angel_n hear_v the_o prayer_n or_o see_v the_o action_n and_o affection_n of_o man_n for_o the_o angel_n mention_v be_v expound_v by_o the_o ancient_a expositor_n and_o by_o the_o romist_n themselves_o not_o of_o a_o angel_n by_o nature_n but_o of_o a_o angel_n by_o office_n and_o by_o some_o of_o they_o of_o a_o angel_n by_o type_n albertus_n concilij_fw-la in_o his_o commentary_n s._n john_n say_v another_o angel_n that_o be_v christ_n who_o be_v the_o angel_n of_o the_o covenant_n isaiah_n 9_o dionifius_fw-la carthusian_n voco_fw-la catholic_a doctor_n etc._n etc._n by_o this_o angel_n understand_v christ_n who_o be_v the_o angel_n of_o the_o great_a council_n and_o which_o by_o the_o mystery_n of_o his_o incarnation_n come_v into_o the_o world_n and_o stand_v upon_o the_o altar_n of_o the_o crosse._n blasius_n viegas_n monstretur_fw-la a_o jesuit_n we_o may_v easy_o perceive_v that_o this_o angel_n be_v christ_n because_o the_o thing_n here_o speak_v of_o he_o can_v agree_v to_o no_o other_o but_o christ_n for_o who_o but_o he_o can_v with_o so_o great_a majesty_n offer_v up_o to_o god_n the_o incense_n that_o be_v the_o prayer_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n who_o beside_o he_o be_v able_a out_o of_o the_o perfume_a pan_n to_o send_v down_o into_o the_o earth_n the_o fiery_a coal_n of_o divine_a charity_n and_o to_o inflame_v people_n with_o the_o burn_a grace_n of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n with_o these_o agree_v ambrose_n significat_fw-la primasius_n 2._o ansbertus_n 393._o beda_n 2._o haimo_n 8._o hugo_n cardinalis_fw-la and_o the_o gloss_n christo._n but_o if_o it_o be_v grant_v that_o this_o angel_n be_v a_o create_v or_o minister_a spirit_n it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o angel_n understand_v the_o secret_a cogitation_n of_o man_n heart_n any_o further_a than_o the_o same_o be_v manifest_v by_o sign_n neither_o be_v it_o consequent_a that_o people_n ought_v to_o pray_v unto_o they_o for_o priest_n offer_v the_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n to_o god_n and_o yet_o no_o man_n do_v therefore_o invocate_v priest_n christianorum_fw-la jesuit_fw-la our_o saviour_n witness_v that_o the_o angel_n rejoice_v at_o 15.10_o the_o conversion_n of_o a_o sinner_n so_o they_o must_v needs_o know_v it_o nor_o can_v they_o know_v it_o without_o know_v the_o sinner_n heart_n conversion_n not_o be_v true_a nor_o worthy_a of_o joy_n except_o it_o proceed_v from_o the_o heart_n answer_n not_o only_o the_o angel_n of_o god_n but_o holy_a man_n on_o earth_n rejoice_v at_o the_o conversion_n of_o a_o sinner_n luke_n 15.24_o 2._o cor._n 7.9_o likewise_o parent_n minister_n and_o 〈◊〉_d rejoice_v etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o it_o follow_v not_o from_o hence_o that_o holy_a man_n on_o earth_n which_o rejoice_v at_o the_o conversion_n of_o a_o sinner_n see_v the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n 1._o cor._n 2.11_o so_o likewise_o angel_n which_o be_v minister_a spirit_n heb._n 1.14_o may_v understand_v by_o the_o sign_n and_o fruit_n of_o true_a repentance_n the_o conversion_n of_o diverse_a sinner_n and_o consequent_o they_o may_v rejoice_v without_o intuitive_a
knowledge_n of_o the_o heart_n second_o our_o saviour_n word_n luk._n 15.10_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o conclusion_n of_o a_o parable_n which_o must_v not_o be_v strain_v beyond_o the_o true_a scope_n etc._n but_o according_a to_o the_o exposition_n of_o sundry_a father_n 168._o and_o some_o learned_a papist_n 〈◊〉_d the_o hundred_o sheep_n vers._n 4._o represent_v the_o whole_a body_n of_o the_o elect_n consist_v of_o man_n and_o angel_n the_o ninety_o and_o nine_o sheep_n not_o lose_v be_v the_o angel_n persist_v in_o their_o prime_a integrity_n the_o stray_n sheep_n all_o mankind_n sin_v in_o adam_n to_o recover_v this_o lose_a sheep_n the_o son_n of_o god_n that_o good_a shepherd_n john_n 10._o 11._o be_v incarnate_a and_o by_o the_o gracious_a work_n of_o redemption_n he_o lay_v the_o same_o on_o his_o shoulder_n now_o there_o be_v great_a joy_n in_o heaven_n before_o the_o celestial_a angel_n for_o this_o recovery_n and_o salvation_n of_o mankind_n but_o if_o this_o exposition_n be_v admit_v no_o more_o can_v be_v infer_v but_o that_o the_o court_n of_o heaven_n and_o in_o the_o same_o the_o holy_a angel_n rejoice_v because_o of_o man_n redemption_n neither_o be_v it_o consequent_a the_o holy_a angel_n rejoice_v because_o of_o the_o conversion_n and_o reduction_n of_o mankind_n ergo_fw-la they_o know_v distinct_o and_o perpetual_o the_o particular_a quality_n of_o every_o individual_a sinner_n repentance_n last_o if_o the_o say_a word_n luke_n 15._o 10._o be_v understand_v of_o sinner_n in_o particular_a this_o text_n yet_o fall_v short_a to_o prove_v that_o all_o the_o celestial_a angel_n perpetual_o and_o at_o the_o very_a instant_n know_v the_o particular_a true_a repentance_n of_o every_o sinner_n individual_o for_o the_o same_o may_v be_v understand_v according_a to_o this_o supposition_n or_o reflection_n to_o wit_n there_o be_v joy_n before_o the_o angel_n of_o heaven_n over_o one_o sinner_n which_o repent_v when_o the_o repentance_n of_o this_o one_o sinner_n be_v make_v know_v unto_o they_o but_o it_o be_v not_o say_v neither_o can_v it_o be_v infer_v that_o celestial_a angel_n know_v constant_o and_o at_o all_o time_n when_o each_o individual_a person_n repent_v true_o our_o adversary_n therefore_o can_v ground_v a_o infallible_a doctrine_n touch_v angelical_a science_n upon_o a_o branch_n of_o a_o parable_n which_o according_a to_o themselves_o admit_v diverse_a exposition_n and_o the_o consequence_n whereof_o be_v not_o necessary_a but_o contingent_a and_o upon_o supposition_n jesuit_fw-la saint_n paul_n say_v we_o be_v make_v a_o spectacle_n unto_o god_n 9_o and_o angel_n and_o he_o adjure_v timothy_n by_o god_n and_o his_o angel_n which_o show_v that_o we_o live_v in_o the_o sight_n of_o angel_n and_o that_o they_o behold_v what_o we_o do_v and_o hear_v what_o we_o say_v even_o in_o our_o heart_n answer_n saint_n paul_n word_n be_v 1._o corinth_n 4._o 9_o we_o be_v make_v a_o spectacle_n to_o the_o world_n and_o to_o angel_n and_o man_n angelis_n laudantibus_fw-la &_o vituperantibus_fw-la hominibus_fw-la laudantibus_fw-la &_o vituperantibus_fw-la 38._o say_v saint_n augustine_n to_o good_a angel_n praise_v we_o to_o evil_a angel_n dispraise_v we_o to_o good_a man_n commend_v we_o and_o to_o wicked_a man_n condemn_v and_o deride_v us._n the_o consequence_n of_o this_o argument_n we_o be_v a_o spectacle_n to_o angel_n therefore_o angel_n understand_v and_o see_v our_o thought_n be_v childish_a for_o as_o saint_n paul_n be_v a_o spectacle_n to_o angel_n so_o he_o be_v a_o spectacle_n to_o good_a man_n and_o bad_a man_n and_o yet_o the_o jesuite_n will_v blush_v to_o argue_v hence_o ergo_fw-la good_a man_n and_o bad_a man_n behold_v the_o heart_n second_o as_o saint_n paul_n say_v i_o testify_v before_o god_n and_o the_o elect_a angel_n so_o moses_n say_v i_o call_v this_o day_n heaven_n and_o earth_n witness_n deuteron_n 4._o 26._o &_o 32._o 1._o and_o isaiah_n say_v hear_v oh_o heaven_n and_o hearken_v oh_o earth_n chap._n 1._o v._n 2._o every_o creature_n therefore_o which_o god_n call_v to_o witness_v or_o adjure_v man_n by_o be_v not_o a_o fearcher_n and_o beholder_n of_o the_o thought_n and_o affection_n of_o the_o heart_n jesuit_fw-la but_o as_o the_o same_o scripture_n aver_v the_o saint_n be_v like_a 112._o unto_o the_o angel_n and_o equal_a unto_o the_o angel_n and_o in_o heaven_n the_o same_o be_v the_o measure_n of_o a_o man_n and_o of_o a_o angel_n ergo_fw-la knowledge_n of_o our_o prayer_n be_v not_o to_o be_v deny_v unto_o glorious_a saint_n the_o fellow_n of_o angel_n answer_n matth._n 22._o 30._o our_o saviour_n say_v that_o in_o the_o resurrection_n neither_o shall_v they_o marry_v nor_o be_v marry_v but_o be_v as_o the_o angel_n of_o god_n in_o heaven_n luke_n 20._o 36._o they_o which_o shall_v be_v count_v worthy_a of_o that_o world_n and_o the_o resurrection_n from_o the_o dead_a neither_o marry_v nor_o take_v wife_n neither_o can_v they_o die_v any_o more_o for_o they_o be_v equal_a to_o angel_n and_o be_v the_o child_n of_o god_n see_v they_o be_v the_o son_n of_o the_o resurrection_n in_o these_o word_n first_o the_o subject_n be_v just_a people_n at_o the_o resurrection_n second_o concern_v these_o our_o saviour_n affirm_v that_o they_o shall_v not_o marry_v etc._n etc._n three_o they_o shall_v be_v as_o angel_n and_o equal_a to_o angel_n four_o he_o express_v wherein_o they_o shall_v be_v so_o to_o wit_n first_o in_o freedom_n from_o secular_a action_n and_o passion_n second_o in_o glorious_a adoption_n or_o real_a possession_n of_o all_o the_o privilege_n of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n now_o i_o admire_v what_o papist_n can_v extort_v from_o hence_o ib._n for_o invocation_n of_o saint_n for_o there_o be_v no_o connexion_n between_o this_o antecedent_n and_o consequent_a to_o wit_n just_a man_n at_o the_o resurrection_n shall_v live_v as_o angel_n remote_a from_o all_o the_o necessity_n of_o a_o worldly_a life_n and_o they_o shall_v be_v as_o the_o angel_n of_o god_n free_a from_o material_a and_o corporeal_a passion_n and_o equal_a to_o the_o angel_n in_o fruition_n of_o blessedness_n ergo_fw-la the_o knowledge_n of_o our_o prayer_n which_o we_o make_v in_o this_o life_n be_v not_o to_o be_v deny_v unto_o glorious_a saint_n the_o fellow_n of_o angel_n the_o place_n of_o the_o revelation_n chap._n 21.17_o be_v expound_v by_o learned_a papist_n three_o way_n cediderunt_fw-la first_o the_o beatitude_n of_o man_n and_o angel_n shall_v be_v measure_v with_o the_o same_o model_n to_o wit_n according_a to_o the_o proportion_n of_o their_o grace_n &_o charity_n second_o man_n shall_v attain_v the_o measure_n of_o angelical_a glory_n by_o succeed_v into_o the_o place_n of_o they_o that_o fall_v three_o the_o hundred_o forty_o four_o cubit_n mention_v in_o that_o place_n were_z meat_z by_o a_o measure_n contain_v the_o length_n of_o a_o man_n which_o be_v the_o meat-wand_n or_o measure_v which_o the_o angel_n hold_v in_o his_o hand_n and_o this_o latter_a exposition_n of_o the_o text_n be_v the_o literal_a sense_n according_a to_o alchasar_n mensuram_fw-la ribera_n hominis_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o from_o none_o of_o these_o exposition_n do_v the_o jesuit_n argugument_n conclude_v not_o from_o the_o first_o &_o the_o last_o as_o be_v apparent_a to_o all_o man_n neither_o yet_o from_o the_o second_o for_o although_o the_o bless_a saint_n attain_v the_o measure_n of_o angelical_a glory_n and_o fill_v up_o the_o place_n which_o the_o decline_a angel_n lose_v yet_o angel_n may_v have_v some_o power_n and_o action_n in_o respect_n of_o their_o present_a ministry_n to_o the_o church_n militant_a which_o be_v diverse_a and_o distinct_a from_o the_o power_n and_o action_n of_o glorify_a saint_n for_o if_o angel_n themselves_o although_o they_o be_v equal_a in_o essential_a beatitude_n yet_o they_o differ_v in_o power_n and_o action_n minoris_fw-la according_a to_o the_o tenet_n of_o the_o school_n 1._o then_o much_o more_o man_n and_o angel_n although_o they_o partake_v in_o the_o same_o obiective_n blessedness_n yet_o they_o may_v have_v different_a action_n and_o accidental_a perfection_n and_o consequent_o angel_n in_o regard_n of_o their_o office_n may_v be_v able_a to_o know_v and_o understand_v that_o which_o bless_a saint_n do_v not_o jesuit_fw-la neither_o can_v saint_n without_o knowledge_n of_o humane_a affair_n be_v perfect_o bless_v blessedness_n be_v a_o state_n wherein_o all_o just_a and_o reasonable_a desire_n of_o nature_n be_v satisfy_v with_o uttermost_a content_n and_o who_o can_v think_v that_o saint_n full_a tua_fw-la both_o of_o glory_n and_o charity_n do_v not_o earnest_o desire_v to_o know_v such_o thing_n as_o may_v concern_v their_o honour_n do_v upon_o earth_n and_o the_o state_n of_o their_o friend_n and_o lover_n live_v in_o danger_n to_o succour_v they_o by_o their_o intercession_n of_o who_o salvation_n they_o be_v
example_n of_o this_o kind_n yea_o so_o much_o as_o one_o example_n than_o you_o may_v just_o say_v neither_o have_v protestant_n reason_n etc._n etc._n but_o you_o be_v and_o will_v be_v as_o mute_a as_o a_o fish_n in_o produce_v any_o one_o example_n to_o this_o purpose_n from_o the_o example_n of_o the_o angel_n refuse_v to_o be_v worship_v apoc._n 19.10_o &_o 22.8_o 9_o we_o argue_v in_o this_o manner_n that_o which_o the_o angel_n refuse_v to_o admit_v when_o he_o be_v present_a and_o come_v as_o a_o ambassador_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o to_o be_v give_v to_o bless_a saint_n and_o angel_n when_o they_o be_v absent_a but_o the_o angel_n refuse_v a_o lesser_a degree_n of_o adoration_n when_o he_o be_v present_a and_o come_v as_o a_o ambassador_n of_o christ_n than_o papist_n yield_v to_o angel_n and_o to_o bless_a saint_n be_v absent_a ergo_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o jesuit_n imagine_v but_o he_o prove_v nothing_o either_o that_o saint_n john_n will_v have_v exhibit_v divine_a adoration_n to_o the_o angel_n and_o for_o this_o reason_n his_o worship_n be_v refuse_v or_o that_o be_v modest_a and_o also_o fervent_a about_o his_o present_a employment_n he_o esteem_v such_o worship_n unmeet_a to_o wit_n at_o that_o present_a rebus_fw-la sic_fw-la stantibus_fw-la and_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o extraordinary_a dignity_n of_o saint_n john_n who_o be_v so_o great_a and_o glorious_a a_o friend_n of_o god_n the_o first_o solution_n be_v reject_v by_o learned_a papist_n themselves_o ribera_n dixit_fw-la alchasar_n 1._o salmeron_n 367._o viegas_n 3._o mendoza_n debetur_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o it_o be_v apparent_a by_o the_o text_n of_o the_o revelation_n that_o st._n john_n know_v it_o be_v a_o angel_n which_o speak_v to_o he_o apoc._n 1.1_o and_o christ_n have_v many_o time_n reveal_v so_o much_o to_o he_o the_o second_o answer_n the_o angel_n in_o modesty_n etc._n etc._n have_v nothing_o at_o all_o in_o the_o text_n to_o warrant_v it_o but_o be_v voluntary_o feign_a by_o the_o jesuite_n first_o let_v he_o give_v we_o any_o the_o like_a example_n of_o such_o modesty_n elsewhere_o in_o holy_a scripture_n use_v by_o any_o angel_n second_o his_o comparison_n from_o a_o preacher_n refuse_v to_o be_v praise_v etc._n etc._n be_v altogether_o unlike_a for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d adoration_n be_v action_n of_o a_o diverse_a kind_n the_o one_o may_v be_v refufe_v in_o modesty_n by_o a_o preacher_n a_o wayfaring_a man_n for_o fear_v of_o vainglory_n but_o religious_a adoration_n be_v a_o undue_a service_n for_o any_o creature_n and_o must_v be_v refuse_v in_o right_a neither_o do_v any_o man_n when_o he_o praise_v a_o preacher_n prostrate_v himself_o religious_o also_o if_o religious_a adoration_n have_v be_v due_a to_o the_o angel_n why_o shall_v he_o in_o modesty_n refuse_v it_o because_o he_o be_v a_o immediate_a ambassador_n of_o jesus_n christ_n and_o the_o admit_v thereof_o will_v have_v be_v a_o lead_a case_n for_o posterity_n to_o teach_v they_o their_o duty_n to_o angel_n if_o such_o duty_n have_v belong_v to_o they_o the_o three_o answer_n the_o angel_n refuse_v adoration_n from_o st._n john_n because_o of_o the_o dignity_n of_o this_o great_a apostle_n be_v confute_v by_o the_o text_n apoc._n 22.9_o for_o the_o angel_n yield_v a_o reason_n of_o his_o refusal_n assign_v a_o cause_n which_o argue_v that_o such_o adoration_n be_v not_o due_a to_o he_o from_o any_o other_o servant_n of_o jesus_n christ_n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n see_v thou_o do_v it_o not_o for_o i_o be_o thy_o fellow_n servant_n and_o of_o thy_o brethren_n the_o prophet_n and_o of_o they_o which_o keep_v the_o say_n of_o this_o book_n worship_n god_n hence_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o if_o the_o angel_n refuse_v religious_a worship_n because_o god_n alone_o be_v to_o be_v worship_v in_o this_o manner_n and_o because_o he_o be_v the_o fellow_n servant_n dominum_fw-la of_o all_o just_a person_n then_o he_o refuse_v not_o this_o worship_n only_o because_o of_o the_o special_a dignity_n of_o st._n john_n but_o he_o will_v have_v refuse_v the_o like_a worship_n from_o any_o other_o christian_n as_o well_o as_o he_o do_v from_o he_o saint_n ambrose_n card._n upon_o the_o revelation_n chap._n 19_o say_v the_o redemption_n of_o christ_n blood_n bring_v this_o to_o the_o faithful_a that_o they_o shall_v be_v make_v the_o son_n of_o god_n and_o companion_n of_o angel_n therefore_o the_o angel_n fear_v to_o be_v worship_v of_o a_o man_n who_o worship_v one_o above_o he_o which_o be_v god_n and_o man_n to_o the_o like_a purpose_n also_o speak_v ansbertus_n jesu._n the_o spirit_n of_o god_n no_o doubt_n foresee_v the_o error_n which_o will_v spring_v up_o in_o future_a time_n etc._n and_o therefore_o he_o leave_v upon_o record_n this_o remarkable_a example_n in_o the_o revelation_n to_o manifest_v his_o will_n and_o to_o be_v a_o antidotarie_n against_o the_o superstitious_a worship_n of_o saint_n and_o angel_n and_o let_v man_n cavil_v and_o descant_v upon_o this_o scripture_n as_o they_o please_v it_o be_v evident_a from_o the_o same_o that_o the_o angel_n will_v admit_v no_o worship_n of_o himself_o and_o he_o draw_v man_n to_o the_o immediate_a worship_v of_o christ_n adora_fw-la he_o do_v not_o distinguish_v say_v worship_v i_o with_o religious_a worship_n as_o god_n friend_n or_o worship_v i_o not_o as_o the_o prime_a fountain_n and_o principal_a donor_n or_o with_o latria_n but_o simple_o and_o without_o all_o distinction_n he_o protest_v against_o this_o religious_a and_o sacred_a reverence_n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d yield_v thy_o worship_n to_o god_n as_o for_o i_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i_o be_o thy_o fellow_n servant_n and_o a_o fellow_n servant_n etc._n etc._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d see_v thou_o do_v it_o not_o let_v no_o other_o do_v it_o last_o if_o our_o adversary_n will_v have_v we_o regard_v their_o distinction_n let_v they_o not_o like_a spider_n spin_v they_o out_o of_o 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7._o in_o what_o manner_n prayer_n and_o almsdeed_n be_v refer_v to_o remission_n of_o sin_n say_v eleemosynis_fw-la &_o orationibus_fw-la impetrantibus_fw-la almsdeed_n and_o prayer_n impetrate_v that_o be_v obtain_v by_o request_n jesuit_fw-la to_o fast_o be_v meritorious_a when_o it_o proceed_v from_o a_o pure_a heart_n to_o which_o our_o saviour_n in_o the_o six_o of_o s._n matthew_n promise_v recompense_v and_o that_o it_o be_v penal_a and_o satisfactory_a ult._n for_o corporal_a penalty_n the_o fact_n of_o the_o 〈◊〉_d show_v 〈◊〉_d so_o that_o the_o same_o work_n of_o the_o just_a as_o pious_a merit_n and_o shall_v have_v in_o heaven_n a_o plentifall_n reward_n as_o penal_a satisfy_v and_o obtain_v full_a remission_n of_o the_o temporal_a penalty_n remain_v to_o be_v suffer_v for_o sin_n in_o confirmation_n whereof_o memorable_a be_v the_o say_n of_o s._n cyprian_n lap_n of_o fervent_a penance_n and_o punition_n of_o body_n qui_fw-la sic_fw-la deo_fw-la satisfacerit_fw-la etc._n etc._n non_fw-la solam_fw-la deiveniam_fw-la merebitur_fw-la sed_fw-la coronam_fw-la answer_n first_o every_o thing_n be_v not_o meritorious_a to_o which_o a_o recompense_n be_v promise_v for_o there_o be_v recompense_n above_o merit_n proceed_v of_o mere_a bounty_n and_o grace_n second_o the_o example_n of_o the_o ninivites_fw-la prove_v not_o that_o fast_v be_v satisfactory_a for_o corporal_a punishment_n but_o only_o that_o it_o be_v iom_v with_o true_a repentance_n be_v a_o mean_n to_o impetrate_v of_o god_n when_o this_o stand_v with_o his_o purpose_n prevention_n release_n or_o mitigation_n of_o temporal_a calamity_n beside_o this_o action_n of_o the_o ninivites_fw-la appertain_v not_o to_o sacramental_a satisfaction_n and_o that_o fast_v be_v not_o condign_o satisfactory_a 9_o appear_v because_o no_o fast_v be_v able_a infallible_o to_o prevent_v or_o remove_v temporal_a plague_n 2._o sam._n 12.22_o but_o if_o fast_v be_v satisfactory_a in_o condignity_n than_o it_o be_v injust_a with_o god_n to_o inflict_v or_o continue_v temporal_a plague_n after_o satisfaction_n make_v by_o fast_v s._n cyprian_n in_o the_o place_n object_v speak_v of_o satisfaction_n for_o sin_n itself_o 〈◊〉_d and_o not_o for_o the_o temporal_a pain_n and_o by_o satisfaction_n he_o understand_v deprecant_fw-la satisfaction_n not_o compensant_fw-la deprecemur_fw-la but_o to_o argue_v from_o appease_v god_n anger_n by_o way_n of_o deprecation_n to_o condign_a satisfaction_n be_v most_o rude_a and_o inconsequent_a jesuit_fw-la the_o second_o proposition_n many_o saint_n endure_v more_o penalty_n and_o affliction_n in_o this_o life_n than_o be_v necessary_a for_o the_o recompense_n of_o the_o temporal_a pain_n due_a to_o their_o sin_n the_o bless_a virgin_n never_o commit_v actual_a sin_n witness_v 36._o saint_n ambrose_n term_v she_o ab_fw-la omni_fw-la 〈◊〉_d labe_fw-la peccati_fw-la and_o saint_n augustine_n say_v plus_fw-fr gratiae_fw-la ei_fw-la collatum_fw-la est_fw-la ad_fw-la vincendum_fw-la ex_fw-la omni_fw-la parte_fw-la peccatum_fw-la yet_o she_o endure_v many_o affliction_n as_o her_o many_o journey_n special_o her_o banishment_n into_o egypt_n her_o stand_v at_o the_o foot_n of_o the_o cross_n when_o the_o sword_n of_o sorrow_n pierce_v through_o her_o heart_n beside_o her_o many_o voluntary_a fasting_n and_o praying_n and_o other_o penitential_a work_n which_o be_v daily_o practise_v in_o the_o course_n of_o her_o most_o holy_a life_n saint_n john_n the_o job._n baptist_n what_o a_o pure_a and_o immaeulate_a course_n of_o life_n hold_v he_o from_o his_o infancy_n in_o the_o wilderness_n never_o commit_v any_o great_a sin_n yea_o scarce_o so_o much_o as_o light_a sin_n as_o the_o father_n teach_v gather_v their_o opinion_n of_o this_o his_o sanctity_n from_o the_o scripture_n and_o yet_o extreme_o penitential_a be_v he_o in_o his_o continual_a fast_n pray_v lie_v on_o the_o ground_n endure_v cold_a wind_n and_o weather_n his_o wear_n continual_o a_o 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therefore_o depend_v upon_o their_o office_n do_v also_o cease_v now_o i_o subsume_v to_o pray_v for_o people_n distinct_o and_o in_o particular_a depend_v upon_o the_o call_n and_o office_n of_o man_n while_o they_o be_v live_v but_o when_o they_o be_v defunct_a this_o call_n and_o office_n cease_v or_o if_o they_o deny_v this_o let_v the_o adversary_n prove_v the_o contrary_a by_o divine_a revelation_n therefore_o although_o abraham_n and_o job_n pray_v for_o abimelech_n and_o eliphas_n etc._n etc._n while_o abraham_n and_o job_n live_v and_o although_o abimelech_n and_o the_o rest_n must_v by_o god_n precept_n be_v holpen_v by_o their_o prayer_n yet_o it_o follow_v not_o from_o hence_o that_o the_o live_a ought_v to_o make_v intercession_n to_o the_o saint_n decease_v very_o he_o that_o read_v this_o section_n of_o the_o jesuit_n may_v well_o wonder_v and_o ask_v whether_o such_o discoursor_n ever_o believe_v or_o hear_v that_o the_o son_n of_o god_n be_v incarnate_a that_o he_o be_v our_o advocate_n and_o that_o by_o he_o we_o have_v access_n to_o the_o throne_n of_o grace_n 〈◊〉_d or_o that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v leave_v a_o manifest_a and_o certain_a rule_n of_o prayer_n in_o the_o church_n consider_v that_o these_o man_n be_v so_o presumptuous_a upon_o their_o own_o frivolous_a surmise_n to_o prescribe_v a_o form_n of_o religious_a invocation_n jesuit_fw-la jesuit_o 5._o invocation_n to_o saint_n not_o a_o injury_n but_o a_o honour_n to_o christ_n the_o only_a mediator_n another_o show_n of_o piety_n pretend_v against_o prayer_n unto_o saint_n be_v that_o it_o seem_v to_o overthrow_v the_o mediatorship_n of_o christ_n which_o s._n paul_n commend_v as_o only_o unus_fw-la mediator_n dei_fw-la &_o hominum_fw-la christus_fw-la jesus_n but_o 2.3_o in_o show_v the_o inanitie_n of_o this_o shadow_n i_o shall_v not_o need_v to_o be_v long_o see_v this_o respect_n will_v make_v we_o also_o neglect_v and_o not_o use_v the_o mediation_n of_o live_a saint_n out_o of_o fear_n of_o disannul_v the_o only_a mediatorship_n of_o christ._n it_o be_v no_o more_o against_o the_o honour_n of_o the_o only_a mediatorship_n of_o christ_n to_o pray_v unto_o saint_n decease_v than_o unto_o saint_n live_v yea_o the_o pray_v unto_o these_o kind_n of_o saint_n may_v seem_v more_o dishonourable_a these_o be_v imprison_v in_o mortality_n militant_a in_o danger_n and_o not_o want_v some_o blemish_n and_o defect_n whereas_o the_o other_o saint_n be_v glorious_a pure_a from_o any_o the_o least_o imaginable_a spot_n settle_v in_o the_o consummation_n of_o ineffable_a bliss_n but_o the_o scripture_n allow_v yea_o command_v prayer_n 42.8_o unto_o live_a saint_n and_o consequent_o pray_v unto_o they_o be_v not_o injurious_a unto_o the_o only_a mediator_n christ_n therefore_o the_o pray_v unto_o saint_n decease_v that_o be_v in_o glory_n with_o god_n be_v not_o injurious_a unto_o the_o only_a mediatorship_n of_o christ._n answer_n our_o argument_n which_o you_o term_v a_o empty_a shadow_n will_v not_o so_o light_o be_v shake_v as_o you_o imagine_v for_o if_o christ_n jesus_n alone_o in_o the_o state_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v the_o mediator_n both_o of_o redemption_n and_o intercession_n than_o no_o saint_n live_v or_o decease_a be_v a_o mediator_n etc._n etc._n but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a because_o god_n have_v constitute_v christ_n to_o be_v a_o mediator_n and_o he_o have_v appoint_v no_o other_o saint_n live_v or_o defunct_a to_o be_v so_o ergo_fw-la christ_n jesus_n alone_o in_o the_o state_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v the_o mediator_n of_o redemption_n and_o intercession_n then_o i_o subsume_v papist_n make_v saint_n decease_v partial_a mediator_n to_o wit_n of_o intercession_n votis_fw-la therefore_o they_o yield_v some_o part_n of_o christ_n the_o sole_a mediator_n his_o office_n unto_o saint_n the_o jesuit_n answer_v by_o distinction_n of_o mediator_n principal_a and_o subordinate_a or_o dependent_a say_v that_o they_o appoint_v no_o saint_n medtatour_n of_o the_o first_o kind_n but_o only_o of_o the_o second_o and_o that_o this_o be_v no_o injury_n to_o christ_n or_o encroachment_n on_o his_o office_n but_o a_o honour_n to_o he_o and_o a_o mean_n to_o apply_v or_o make_v his_o mediation_n effectual_a to_o we_o and_o he_o use_v certain_a paralogisme_n to_o conclude_v this_o first_o the_o scripture_n say_v he_o allow_v and_o command_v prayer_n to_o live_a saint_n etc._n etc._n but_o these_o be_v not_o injurious_a but_o honourable_a to_o christ._n it_o be_v answer_v that_o unless_o the_o jesuit_n aequivocate_v the_o scripture_n command_v not_o invocation_n of_o live_a saint_n but_o only_o the_o request_v of_o their_o charity_n and_o prayer_n to_o god_n for_o man_n rom._n 15.30_o eph._n 6.19_o col._n 4.3_o 1._o thes._n 5.25_o heb._n 13.18_o but_o the_o live_a be_v present_a and_o conversant_a with_o the_o live_n they_o conjoin_v their_o common_a prayer_n ut_fw-la deum_fw-la quasi_fw-la manufacta_fw-la praecationibus_fw-la ambiant_fw-la say_v tertul._n apol._n c._n 39_o that_o go_v to_o god_n hand_n in_o hand_n they_o may_v entreat_v he_o beside_o invocation_n and_o prayer_n proper_o take_v praesuppose_v in_o they_o we_o pray_v unto_o understand_v the_o thought_n and_o motion_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o all_o religious_a prayer_n be_v a_o mental_a action_n understand_v by_o he_o who_o man_n deprecate_v but_o the_o live_a saint_n understand_v not_o the_o secret_n of_o each_o other_o heart_n therefore_o speak_v proper_o no_o man_n pray_v to_o live_a saint_n also_o religious_a prayer_n be_v a_o communication_n with_o god_n deo_fw-la and_o a_o proper_a worship_n of_o god_n and_o a_o action_n of_o latria_n 2._o last_o no_o precept_n or_o example_n be_v extant_a in_o holy_a scripture_n prove_v that_o just_a person_n do_v at_o any_o time_n pray_v to_o live_a saint_n be_v absent_a or_o to_o live_a saint_n by_o collet_n or_o set_v form_n of_o public_a devotion_n in_o such_o 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these_o two_o as_o