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A04195 A treatise of the holy catholike faith and Church Diuided into three bookes. By Thomas Iackson Dr. in Diuinitie, chaplaine to his Maiestie in ordinarie, and vicar of Saint Nicolas Church in the towne of Newcastle vpon Tyne. The first booke.; Commentaries upon the Apostles Creed. Book 12 Jackson, Thomas, 1579-1640. 1627 (1627) STC 14319; ESTC S107497 117,903 222

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