Selected quad for the lemma: saint_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
saint_n	apostle_n	bishop_n	church_n	4,838	5	4.3372	3	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A86962	A modest offer of some meet considerations tendered to the learned prolocutor, and the rest of the Assembly of Divines, met at Westminster, 1644. Concerning a form of church-government. By Jos. Hall, D.D. late Bishop of Norwich.	Hall, Joseph, 1574-1656.	1660 (1660)	Wing H395; Thomason E1034_13; ESTC R209040	9,313	14

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