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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d at_o least_o in_o ordinary_a course_n of_o god_n dispensation_n that_o holy_a saint_n can_v help_v we_o by_o recommend_v our_o case_n unto_o god_n or_o therefore_o be_v to_o be_v invocate_v because_o where_o he_o speak_v positive_o as_o upon_o 1_o cor._n 15._o hom._n 39_o and_o hom._n 28._o upon_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o hebrew_n and_o in_o other_o place_n he_o seem_v to_o be_v through_o for_o that_o opinion_n that_o the_o saint_n depart_v not_o yet_o in_o palatio_fw-la behold_v not_o the_o face_n of_o god_n in_o glory_n but_o expect_v in_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o porch_n as_o he_o phrase_v it_o the_o accomplishment_n of_o the_o reward_n to_o the_o righteous_a and_o final_a consummation_n of_o all_o in_o christ_n which_o opinion_n can_v stand_v with_o our_o invocation_n where_o of_o necessity_n they_o must_v have_v access_n that_o be_v to_o be_v employ_v as_o mediator_n unless_o absalon_n can_v daily_o have_v address_n unto_o david_n his_o father_n and_o 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turn_n already_o be_v purge_v with_o the_o oil_n of_o purification_n and_o perfume_v with_o the_o odour_n of_o the_o lamb_n innocency_n to_o go_v into_o the_o chamber_n of_o that_o great_a king_n and_o to_o be_v marry_v unto_o he_o by_o immortality_n spy_n of_o that_o land_n of_o promise_n which_o indeed_o flow_v with_o milk_n and_o honey_n to_o who_o that_o captain_n of_o the_o army_n of_o the_o lord_n of_o host_n the_o joshua_n in_o truth_n and_o not_o in_o type_n have_v give_v rest_n from_o all_o enemy_n round_o about_o fair_a flock_n of_o that_o great_a shepherd_n of_o israel_n that_o feed_v upon_o the_o mountain_n of_o eternity_n and_o repose_v yourselves_o in_o pasture_n by_o the_o water_n of_o life_n we_o know_v you_o afford_v we_o your_o best_a wish_n and_o desire_n refresh_v we_o with_o the_o crumb_n of_o your_o delicacy_n there_o compassionate_a our_o yet_o pilgrim_n estate_n that_o lie_v among_o lion_n feed_v with_o the_o wolf_n and_o go_v to_o water_n with_o the_o dragon_n 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can_v do_v unto_o they_o say_v chrysostome_n 625._o to._n 5._o pa._n 625._o be_v to_o go_v after_o they_o in_o their_o worth_n and_o to_o be_v follower_n of_o their_o good_a deserve_n nazianzene_n enlarge_v himself_o much_o upon_o this_o point_n and_o conclude_v hoc_fw-la honorum_fw-la genere_fw-la magis_fw-la oblectatur_fw-la cyprianus_n 18._o oâ—at_n 18._o quam_fw-la cunctis_fw-la alijs_fw-la in_o unum_fw-la congestis_fw-la haec_fw-la et_fw-la cum_fw-la apud_fw-la homines_fw-la versaretur_fw-la vita_fw-la moribusque_fw-la praesiabat_fw-la et_fw-la absens_fw-la per_fw-la nostram_fw-la vocem_fw-la omnibus_fw-la in_o mandatis_fw-la that_fw-mi quam_fw-la obsecro_fw-la ne_fw-la contemnatis_fw-la si_fw-la tamen_fw-la aut_fw-la illius_fw-la in_o dolorum_fw-la acerbitatibus_fw-la tolerantiae_fw-la ac_fw-la certaminum_fw-la pro_fw-la virtutis_fw-la defension_n susceptorum_fw-la aut_fw-la etiam_fw-la mei_fw-la qui_fw-la hac_fw-la legatione_fw-la fungor_fw-la apud_fw-la vos_fw-la ulla_fw-la 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and_o not_o consummate_v in_o the_o flesh_n i_o insist_v not_o on_o this_o it_o be_v not_o now_o question_v by_o the_o opposite_n but_o far_o they_o teach_v that_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n make_v also_o particular_a intercession_n for_o we_o that_o be_v some_o of_o they_o for_o some_o of_o we_o here_o which_o be_v in_o my_o opinion_n though_o no_o point_n of_o faith_n for_o which_o i_o will_v burn_v yet_o true_a and_o certain_a in_o all_o credibilitie_n but_o how_o it_o be_v limit_v or_o to_o be_v enlarge_v how_o and_o in_o what_o sort_n and_o sense_n it_o be_v true_a may_v appear_v more_o particular_o upon_o the_o process_n three_o that_o saint_n and_o holy_a angel_n in_o heaven_n may_v be_v joint_o or_o several_o pray_v unto_o many_o by_o many_o by_o one_o or_o some_o one_o by_o any_o one_o or_o by_o many_o which_z according_o their_o people_n put_v in_o frequent_a practice_n chant_v it_o every_o where_o ora_fw-la pro_fw-la i_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n that_o oracle_n of_o the_o roman_a faith_n and_o religion_n resolve_v thus_o sanctos_fw-la orationes_fw-la svas_fw-la pro_fw-la hominibus_fw-la deâ—_n offer_n bonum_fw-la esse_fw-la atque_fw-la utile_fw-la suppliciter_fw-la eos_fw-la inuocare_fw-la ad_fw-la eorum_fw-la orationes_fw-la opem_fw-la auxiliumque_fw-la confugere_fw-la in_o some_o generality_n as_o their_o manner_n be_v leave_v way_n and_o liberty_n for_o dispute_n abroad_o invocation_n and_o in_o this_o point_n not_o better_a to_o be_v answer_v then_o by_o take_v away_o the_o ambiguity_n of_o the_o word_n invocation_n for_o better_a evidence_n in_o this_o point_n the_o question_n controverse_v inter_fw-la part_n may_v be_v limit_v or_o rather_o explain_v thus_o invocation_n as_o be_v touch_v be_v a_o word_n of_o ambiguous_a signification_n as_o most_o word_n be_v because_o there_o be_v more_o thing_n than_o word_n subsistance_n then_o name_v to_o call_v they_o by_o it_o be_v take_v special_o for_o to_o call_v upon_o i_o as_o him_z upon_o who_o we_o absolute_o rely_v at_o least_o ultimatè_fw-fr in_o that_o kind_n it_o be_v also_o use_v for_o to_o call_v unto_o as_o to_o help_v assistant_n or_o advocate_n in_o suit_n when_o in_o time_n of_o trouble_n and_o necessity_n we_o have_v cause_n to_o come_v and_o call_v on_o god_n direct_v our_o prayer_n ever_o primâ_fw-la intention_n unto_o he_o when_o therefore_o we_o talk_v of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n and_o dispute_v concern_v pray_v unto_o saint_n we_o must_v understand_v invocation_n so_o as_o direct_v unto_o they_o only_o as_o assistant_n and_o mediator_n only_o of_o intercession_n and_o therefore_o not_o to_o be_v invocate_v or_o call_v upon_o in_o the_o same_o sense_n and_o term_n as_o god_n almighty_a be_v the_o author_n and_o donor_n of_o every_o good_a give_v nor_o to_o be_v implore_v as_o christ_n jesus_n be_v the_o only_a mediator_n of_o redemption_n and_o
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piè_fw-la &_o utiliter_fw-la invocantur_fw-la the_o very_a decision_n of_o the_o oracle_n of_o trent_n so_o they_o dispute_v without_o any_o scruple_n as_o if_o there_o be_v no_o difference_n for_o the_o employment_n nor_o any_o distinction_n of_o condition_n for_o the_o engagement_n condition_n not_o observe_v how_o much_o they_o differ_v both_o in_o employment_n and_o condition_n when_o as_o saint_n and_o angel_n differ_v many_o way_n and_o angel_n be_v set_v up_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o regard_n of_o man_n for_o the_o excellency_n of_o their_o nature_n nobility_n of_o kind_n extent_n of_o their_o â—â—dowments_n use_v of_o their_o employment_n and_o worth_a of_o their_o achievement_n many_o way_n above_o and_o beyond_o the_o son_n of_o man_n they_o be_v call_v angel_n from_o their_o employment_n and_o be_v agentes_fw-la in_o rebus_fw-la upon_o earth_n unto_o god_n upon_o course_n in_o kind_n ordinary_o and_o extraordinary_o angel_n liegiers_n angel_n keeper_n of_o man_n 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or_o piety_n truth_n we_o do_v not_o urge_v 〈◊〉_d certain_a truth_n the_o case_n itself_o of_o angel_n keeper_n be_v not_o so_o resolve_v but_o only_o mention_v as_o of_o congruity_n because_o it_o be_v most_o probable_a there_o be_v such_o keeper_n if_o thus_o myself_o resolve_v do_v infer_v holy_a angel_n keeper_n pray_v for_o i_o i_o see_v no_o reason_n to_o be_v tax_v with_o point_n of_o popery_n or_o superstition_n much_o less_o of_o absurdity_n or_o impiety_n but_o be_v this_o as_o may_v be_v salus_fw-la reipublicae_fw-la non_fw-la vertitur_fw-la in_o istis_fw-la a_o man_n may_v go_v to_o heaven_n that_o use_v it_o and_o he_o that_o deny_v it_o may_v go_v thither_o also_o as_o likewise_o they_o may_v hoc_fw-la non_fw-la obstante_fw-la go_v either_o of_o they_o the_o contrary_a way_n to_o the_o contrary_a place_n through_o breach_n or_o observation_n of_o thing_n of_o a_o high_a nature_n and_o great_a allay_v tender_v unto_o we_o under_o that_o strict_a form_n believe_v this_o and_o live_v but_o to_o return_v to_o our_o persuader_n for_o prayer_n unto_o saint_n too_o but_o whatsoever_o we_o grant_v or_o deny_v they_o be_v eloquent_a orator_n for_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n too_o they_o use_v to_o tell_v we_o many_o long_a and_o plausible_a discourse_n of_o the_o happy_a and_o bless_a estate_n of_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n of_o the_o fruition_n and_o enjoy_n of_o his_o presence_n in_o glory_n with_o who_o be_v the_o fullness_n of_o joy_n at_o who_o right_a hand_n be_v pleasure_n for_o evermore_o they_o discourse_n of_o their_o charity_n and_o good_a affection_n unto_o we_o their_o brethren_n militant_a in_o the_o church_n upon_o earth_n the_o great_a desire_n they_o have_v to_o do_v we_o good_a their_o readiness_n to_o help_v and_o to_o assist_v we_o at_o need_n the_o grace_n and_o favour_n they_o be_v in_o with_o god_n and_o the_o possibility_n they_o have_v to_o be_v hear_v in_o their_o desire_n and_o to_o have_v whatsoever_o they_o ask_v grant_v 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success_n discourse_v of_o their_o dear_a affection_n to_o us._n say_v they_o as_o if_o this_o be_v question_v or_o to_o the_o purpose_n but_o they_o wish_v and_o will_v and_o what_o they_o can_v most_o ready_o procure_v quantum_fw-la in_o ipsis_fw-la as_o much_o as_o they_o can_v and_o they_o can_v do_v much_o whatsoever_o in_o god_n may_v stead_v they_o or_o do_v they_o good_a they_o love_v we_o indeed_o no_o question_n of_o that_o and_o so_o consequent_o according_a unto_o the_o nature_n of_o love_n in_o the_o effect_n thereof_o will_n and_o wish_v and_o seek_v the_o good_a of_o those_o who_o they_o love_v their_o love_n be_v now_o great_a be_v in_o heaven_n unto_o man_n than_o ever_o it_o be_v or_o can_v be_v when_o and_o while_o they_o live_v upon_o earth_n for_o charity_n be_v transcendent_a in_o those_o celestial_a citizen_n and_o therefore_o no_o question_n they_o pray_v for_o man_n upon_o earth_n but_o how_o and_o for_o who_o all_o christian_n in_o general_a their_o brethren_n 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to_o the_o purpose_n in_o the_o controversy_n homil_n 66._o ad_fw-la populum_fw-la antiochenum_fw-la circa_fw-la finem_fw-la no_o &_o ipse_fw-la qui_fw-la purpuram_fw-la indutus_fw-la est_fw-la he_o mean_v the_o emperor_n the_o prince_n then_o in_o state_n accedit_fw-la illa_fw-la complexurus_fw-la sepulchra_fw-la &_o fastu_fw-la deposito_fw-la stat_fw-la sanctis_fw-la supplicaturus_fw-la ut_fw-la pro_fw-la se_fw-la intercedant_fw-la apud_fw-la deum_fw-la et_fw-la scenarum_fw-la fabrum_fw-la &_o piscatores_fw-la orat_fw-la qui_fw-la diademate_n incedit_fw-la redimitus_fw-la he_o mean_v saint_n peter_n saint_z andrew_z james_n john_n and_o paul_n though_o bellarmine_n interpreter_n whosoever_o he_o be_v have_v ignorant_o and_o false_o and_o impious_o too_o translate_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d scenarum_fw-la fabrum_fw-la as_o if_o saint_n paul_n have_v be_v a_o stage-maker_n who_o be_v a_o tentmaker_n as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o rather_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v and_o not_o a_o stage-maker_n a_o course_n of_o life_n i_o dare_v say_v he_o do_v detest_v but_o let_v that_o pass_v as_o not_o to_o purpose_v i_o answer_v first_o if_o the_o testimony_n be_v no_o better_o than_o the_o title_n of_o the_o oration_n true_a if_o it_o be_v true_a it_o be_v not_o worth_a three_o blue_a bean_n in_o a_o blue_a bladder_n for_o chrysost_o never_o make_v half_a so_o many_o oration_n under_o that_o title_n of_o ad_fw-la populum_fw-la antiochenum_fw-la bellarmine_n himself_o else_o where_o be_v my_o author_n 3â—8_n 〈◊〉_d de_fw-fr scriptori_fw-la 〈…〉_o 3â—8_n exit_fw-la homilijs_fw-la ad_fw-la populum_fw-la antiochenum_fw-la viginti_fw-la &_o una_fw-la tantum_fw-la reperiri_fw-la dicuntur_fw-la manuscriptae_fw-la in_o antiquis_fw-la bibliothecis_fw-la second_o this_o be_v only_o a_o narration_n what_o be_v do_v do_v yet_o it_o be_v 〈◊〉_d narration_n without_o any_o approbation_n of_o the_o thing_n do_v it_o be_v no_o approbation_n of_o the_o thing_n do_v or_o do_v of_o it_o the_o testimony_n recite_v out_o of_o the_o 5._o and_o 8._o homil._n upon_o saint_n matthew_n and_o 1._o upon_o the_o 1_o thessaly_n do_v speak_v of_o saint_n live_v and_o not_o depart_v and_o so_o be_v not_o to_o purpose_n live_v the_o other_o testimony_n speak_v of_o saint_n live_v or_o ad_fw-la rem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d it_o be_v good_a to_o enjoy_v or_o participate_v the_o prayer_n of_o saint_n and_o he_o instance_v the_o profit_n by_o saint_n peter_n deliver_v out_o of_o prison_n at_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n which_o i_o know_v and_o i_o think_v our_o master_n do_v believe_v be_v of_o the_o church_n militant_a and_o not_o triumphant_a so_o hom._n 44._o in_o gen._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o we_o understand_v belove_v let_v we_o have_v recourse_n unto_o the_o intercession_n of_o saint_n and_o entreat_v they_o to_o recommend_v we_o to_o god_n but_o as_o i_o say_v he_o mean_v live_v not_o depart_v saint_n as_o interpret_n that_o 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saint_n ignatius_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o consideration_n and_o regard_n hereof_o let_v we_o prefer_v our_o abide_n here_o before_o all_o other_o content_a and_o pleasure_n whatsoever_o that_o so_o be_v advantage_v with_o much_o content_n we_o may_v through_o the_o mean_n of_o their_o intercession_n become_v inmate_n with_o they_o our_o fellow_n servant_n and_o this_o be_v rather_o in_o the_o opinion_n of_o he_o or_o they_o that_o come_v thither_o own_o and_o rather_o fit_v himself_o to_o the_o opinion_n of_o other_o then_o express_v his_o own_o to_o visit_v their_o shrine_n by_o work_v upon_o his_o or_o their_o affection_n then_o in_o any_o actual_a or_o real_a performance_n of_o the_o saint_n towards_o they_o as_o the_o same_o father_n express_v it_o in_o his_o second_o oration_n upon_o the_o martyr_n babylas_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o very_a sight_n of_o the_o coffin_n present_v by_o view_n to_o the_o understanding_n amass_v it_o straight_o and_o so_o affect_v 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