say that there are any good workes of them which are not iustified CONFERENCE OF THE FORESAIED WORDS Scripture plainely saieth that a horlot was iustified by her workes that to an other manie sinnes were forgiuen because she loued much that a Sinner in beleiuing God doth well that the Publican did manie good workes before he was iustified The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that before iustification no workes are good all are badde are sinnes execrable before God and prouoke Gods wrath againe the workes ART II. WHETHER EVERIE GOOD worke of the Iust be sinne or the iust sinne in euerie good worke SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY DENIETH. Iob 1. v. 22. In all these thinges Iob sinned not with his lippes Iob sinned not in some speeches nether spoake he any foolish thing against God cap. 23. v. 11. My foote hath followed his steppes I haue kept his way and haue not declined out of it 3. Reg. 15. v. 5. Because Dauid had done right in the eies of our Dauid declined not but in some things Lord and had not declined from all things which he commanded him all the dayes of his life except the matter of Vrias 1. Cor. 7. v. 28. But if thou take a wife thou hast not sinned and if a Virgin marrie she hath not sinned v. 37. He sinneth not if she marrie 2. Peter 1. v. 10. Doing these things you shall not sinne at any Doing some things we sinne not time Apoc. 3. v. 4. But thou hast a few names in Sardis who haue not defiled their garments CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY DENIE Councell of Trent Sess 6. c. 11. It is manifest that they are against true doctrine who say that the iust man sinneth in euerie act at least venially or which is more intolerable that he deserueth eternall paines PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Whitaker l. 2. de Peccato orig c. 3. Inherent concupiscence We sinne in euerie act maketh that we sinne in euerie action of ours eueÌ„ good Againe We teach that the iust do alwaies sinne mortally by nature of the thing and the acts themselues Et ad Ration 8. Campian All good acts are sinnes All good actions are sinnes in Gods iudgment mortall if God pardon them light This Luther saied and he saied truely Tindal in Fox his Act. p. 1139. There is no deed so good but that the law damneth it Luther de Ration Confitendi to 2. fol 26. Euen our good Good workes are sinnes workes if God iudge them according to rigour and not pardon them with mercie are damnable and mortall De Captiuit Babilon fol. 80. Yea good workes are found to be sinnes In Assert art 31. fol. 109. The iust sinneth in euerie good worke f. 110. He teacheth to sinne who denieth a good worke to be sinne In Confutat Latomi fol. 220. All iustice is vncleane euerie good worke sinne Tomo 5. in Gal. 1. f. 227. Let there be workes so it be knowne that before God they be sinnes 228. The workes of the law must needs be sinnes otherwise certainly they would iustifie In c. 2. f. 231. Workes of the most holie law of God are so farre from giuing iustice as that they are sinnes and make a man worse before God De bonis operibus fol. 581. Let a man know All our actions are nothing but daÌ„nable sinnes that all his life and actions are nothing but damnable sinnes in the iudgment of God Postilla in Dom. 4. post Pascha With all thy workes which thou doest thou canst do nothing els but sinne Postilla in Natali Christi f. 374. Christ teacheth that all that is ours is nothing but sinne before God Illyricus apud Schlusselburg tom 7. Catal. Haeret. p. 155. All Saints in euerie good worke do sinne Hitherto our men disputed against Papists that all Saints in euerie good worke do sinne Wigandus ib. p. 719. For this verie imperfection and pollution good works of themselues are sinnes Caluin 3. Instit cap. 17. § 11. There was neuer any worke of a pious man which if it were examined by the seuere iudgment of God was not damnable In Refutat Serueti pag. 655. Because God pardoneth vs like his children thereupon he by pardon imputeth free iustice to workes which of themselues are vniust Beza in Conf. c. 4. sect 19 If God in all rigour would examine The best workes are mere pollutions euen the excellentest workes of men nothing eâ—s would be determined of them then that they are mere pollutions of Gods guifts Et l. q. resp p. 674. If you examine the best workes of the most holie men according to the rule of the law I say they are sinnes Bullinger Decad. 3. serm 10. We say that the good workes of the faithfull are sinnes Serranus cont Hayum part 2. p. 188. Whatsoeuer is of maÌ„ is euill is sinne what shewsoeuer it hath of vertue Ianius Cont. 4. l. 3. c. 2. All the workes of a man though iustified are sinnes in themselues Pareus l. de Iustif c. 15. The workes of the iust if they be examined of God according to the rigour of the law are mere sinnes Et c. 20. The iust sinneth euen in well doing We sinne in well doing THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that Iob in some things did not sinne with his lippes did not decline from Gods way that Dauid declined not from all things that God commanded except the matter of Vrias that men sinne not in marrying that doing some things we shall not sinne The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that in euerie good act we sinne that the iust in euerie act sinneth that all Saints sinne in euerie good worke that in well doing we sinne that good workes are sinnes that good workes are of themselues damned of themselues in iust of themselues mortall sinnes that euen the workes of Gods most holie law make a man worse before God that euerie act in the iudgment of God is nothing but damnable sinne mere sinne nothing but sinne nothing but pollution of Gods guifts ART III. WHETHER WORKES OF the Iust be a sweet smell before God SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Gen. 8. vers 20. Noë offered holocaustes vpon the altar and A sweet sauour our Lord smelled a sweet sauour Numbers 29. ver 21. And shall offer an holocaust for a most A sweet â—dour sweet odour to the Lord. Apocal. 8. vers 3. And an other Angel came and stood before the altar hauing a goulden censor and there were giuen to him Incense manie incenses that he should giue of the praier of all Saints vpon the altar of gould which is before the throne of God And the smoake of the incenses of the praiers of the Saintes ascended from the hand of the Angel before God CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME C. Bellarm. l. 4. de Iustif cap. 20. The Scripture eueriewhere praiseth the workes of the iust and saieth they are pleasing to God and accepted as a sweet odour PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther in Disp
Soules be already fully happie they may easily harken to vs and request helpe of God So that for to bereaue vs of the praiers of Saints they bereaue them of their heauenlie felicitie THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely affirmeth that the Saints are now before the throne of God and in his temple and that the good theefe was in paradise with Christ The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely denie that Saints enioy their assured felicitie their present glorie and happines and say that their hope is differred vnto the last daye that all the Saints sleepe vnto the last day and know not what is done that they as yet enioye not their essentiall glorie and felicitie ART III. WHETHER THE GLORIE OF all the Saints be equall SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY DENIETH. 1. Corina 15. ver 41. One indeed glorie of the sunne an other Saints differ in glorie glorie of the moone and other glorie of the starres For starre differeth from starre in glorie so also the resurrection of the dead CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY DENIE C. Bellarm. l. 3. de Iustif c. 16. The testimonies of the Scripture do teach that the rewards in heauen are not equall PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Peter Martyr in 1. Cor. 15. v. 32. But if God in giuing euerlasting No degrees of reward life do not respect the worth of our workes whence shall we gather these degrees of rewards Againe our aduersaries haue deuised this distinction of substantiall and accidentall reward They shall haue the brightnes of the sunne that is equally Equall glorie the greatest glorie Pareus l. 5. de Iustif c. 20. The Papists do feigne diuers degrees of eternall life But whence haue they the degrees which they make Perkins in Galat. 1. tom 2. All the elect enjoy equall essentiall Equall essentiall glorie glorie Caluin in Matth. 20. Some Protestant interpreters do gather this summe Because the heauenlie inheritance is not gotten by merite of workes but is giuen freely that the glorie of all shal be equall THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that the dead shall rise as differēt in glorie as one starre differeth from an other The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely teach that there is no distinction of substantiall or accidentall glorie that the substantiall glorie of all the elect shal be equall that there are no degrees of euerlasting life no degrees of reward in heauen that all shall equally enioy the greatest glorie Which some Protestants confesse to be repugnant to Scripture See lib. 2. c. 30. ART XX. WHETHER ANGELS AND Saints in heauen pray for vs SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Zacharie 1. v. 12. And the Angel of our Lord answered and Angels pray for vs. saied O Lord of hosts how long wilt thou not haue mercie on Hierusalem and on the citties of Iuda with which thou hast beene angrie 2. Machabees 15. v. 12. And the vision was in this manner And Saints Onias who had beene the high preist a good and benigne man stretching forth his hands praied for all the people of the Iewes v. 14. This is a louer of his brethren and of the people of Israel this is he that praieth much for the people and for the whole cittie Hieremie the Prophet of God CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Councel of Trent sess 25. cap. de Inuocat saieth that their opinion is impious who say that the Saints pray not for vs. PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Confession of France art 24. We beleiue that whatsoeuer Saints pray not for vs. men haue feigned of the praier of Saints is nothing else but the frauds and deceit of Sathan The like hath Confes Heluet. c. 5. and Apol. Confes August c. de inuocat Willet Controu 9. quaest 3. pag. 440. Saints do not pray for vs. Whitaker ad Rat. 4. Compiani Whether the Martyrs and Saints in heauen do pray to Christ for vs we know not Zuinglius in Explanat art 20. There cannot be alledged out of the Bible any doctrin or exāple that proueth Saints in heauen to pray for vs. If as you feigne they pray for vs they will moue God nothing For it is not done from the heart Bullinger Decade 4. Serm. 5. The Scripture teacheth not Angels pray not for vs. that Angels pray De Origin cultus Diuorum cap. 15. It becometh not the Saints taking to themselues the office of Christ to pray for vs. Caluin 3. Instit c. 20. § 21. What Angel or Diuel euer tould any man any sillable of this praier of Saints which they feigne In 1. Tim. 2. v. 5. It is a mere fiction bred in the braines that the dead pray for vs. Daneus Controu 7. p. 1311. They request nothing of God Nether in generall nor in particuler ether in generall or in particular for the necessities of those that liue on earth Polanus in Disp priuat disp 25. The Saints departed pray not God for the liuing ether in generall or in particular Vorstius in Antibellarm pa. 281. We denie that the holie Angels and especially the soules of the Iust departed hence do pray in particular for our necessities Pareus in Colloq Swal 3. They should sinne if they They should sinne if they praied for vs. praied for vs. Because they should both accuse God of vnmercifulnes as if he heard not sufficiently Christs praiers and also should reproue Christ of weaknes and fluggishnes THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that an Angel and Onias and Hieremie after their death did pray for the people The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely teach that nether Angels nor Saints pray for vs that it becometh not them to pray for vs that they should sinne if they praied for vs that they do it not frō their heart that they pray nether in generall nor in particular for vs that the praier of Saints is a fiction fraude and deceit of the diuell Which is so opposite to Scripture as some Protestants acknowledge it See lib. 2. c. 30. ART V. WHETHER SAINTS IN heauen care for our matters SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. 2. Machabees 15. ver 12. and 15. And the vision was in this Saints haue care for vs. manner And that Hieremie put forth his right hand and gaue vnto Iudas a sword of gould saying Take the holie sword a gift from God wherewith thou shalt ouerthrow the aduersaries of my people Israel 1. Cor. 13. v. 8. Charitie neuer falleth away 2. Peter 1. vers 15. And I will do my diligence you to haue often after my decease also that you may keepe a memorie of these things CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Card. Bellarm. l. 1. de Sanctis c. 18. The Angels pray for vs and haue care of vs in particuler therefore much more the spirits of holie men PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Tindal in Fox Acts p. 1137. What buildest thou Churches Saints be not our freinds foūdest Abbies Chauntries and Colleges in the honour of Saints to my Mother S. Peter Paul and Saints that be dead to make of them thy freinds They need it
not yea they be not thy freinds Luther Postilla in Dom. 9. post Trinit Nether are they thy freinds but theirs of whome in their life time they receiued benefit Caluin 3. Instit c. 20 § 23. For what Saint is to be thought Take no care of vs. to take care of the safetie of the people Moises giuing it ouer who whiles he liued farre surpassed all others in this point In Luc. 16. vers 19. Here the Papists are fondly subtill whiles they will proue that the dead haue care of the liuing which is a stincking cauill In Zachar. ver 12. We know that the offices of charitie Charitie onely for this life are restrained to the course of this life Which also hath Zuinglius respons ad Luther to 2. fol. 379. Beza in Lucae 15. v. 10. Who can therefore rightly perswade himselfe or others that the Soules of Saints in heauen haue care of those things which are done on earth or that they know theÌ„ and much lesse that they ought to be praied vnto Pareus in Colloq Swal 3. The Scripture denieth that the Care not for our necessities Saints in heauen know and care for our necessities THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that charitie neuer falleth away that Hieremie had care of the people after his death The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that the offices of charitie are restrained to this present lâ—fe that Saints in heauen are not our freinds that they haue no care of vs or of our necessities ART VI. WHETHER ANGELS AND Saints heare our praiers and know our affaires SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Tobie 12. vers 12. the Angel saieth When thou didst pray Angels heare our praiers with teares and didst burte the dead and left thy dinner and didst hide the dead by day in thy house and by night didst burie them I offered thy praier to our Lord. Luke 15. vers 10. So I say to you there shal be ioy before the Know our repentance Angels of God vpon one sinner that doth pennance And cap. 16. vers 19. Abraham being dead saieth They haue Moyses and the Prophets Apocal. 4. vers 1. After these things I looked and behould a doore open in heanen and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet speaking to me saying Come vp hither and I Know things to come will shew thee the things which must be done quickly after these And c. 19. v. 1. and 2. After these things I heard as it is were the voice of many multitudes in heauen saying Alleluia praise and And punishments of the wicked glorie and power is to our God Because true and iust are his iudgements which hath iudged of the great harlot that hath corrupted the eorth in her whordome and hath reuenged the blood of his seruants of her hands CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME C. Bellarm. l. 1. de Sanctis c. 20. It is not true that Saints do not know what we aske of them PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Whitaker ad Ration 4. Campiani It is certaine that the Saints know not what we doe Heare not our praiers Saints do not know what we doe Apologia Confess Augustan c. de Inuocat It cannot be saied that Saints do heare our praier Caluin 3. Instit cap. 20. § 24. Who tould that they haue so long eares that they can stretch them vnto our praiers so quicke eyes that they can perceaue our necessities And in 1. Cor. 13. v. 8. The Saints do not know our estate Beza in 1. Ioan. 2. vers 1. The blessed spirits haue no knowledge of things done here below And l. quaestion respons vol. 1. It is easie to refute as a foolish and grosse fiction that they say that God reuealeth our praiers to the blessed spirits THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that the Angel heard the praier and knew the good deeds of Tobias that the Angels know and reioyce of the pennance of a sinner that Abraham knew of Moises and the Prophets that Saints knew the wickednes of the great harlot and Gods punishment vpon her The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that Saints know not what we doe that they heare not our praiers perceaue not our necessities know not our estate that to say that God reuealeth to them our praiers is a foolish and grosse fiction ART XVII WHETHER ANGELS OR Saints in heauen do offer our praiers to God SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Tobie 12. vers 12. cit the Angel saieth When thou didest Angels offâ—r our praiers to God pray with tears I offered thy praier to our Lord. Apocal. 5. v. 8. And when he had opened the booke the foure beasts and the soure and twentie Seniours fell before the lambe hauing euerie one harpes and goulden vials full of odours which are the praiers of saints And c. 8. v. 3. And an other Angel came and stood before the altar hauing a goulden censar and there were giuen to him manie incenses that he should giue of the praiers of all Saints vpon the altar of gould which is before the throne of God CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Cardin. Bellarmin lib. 1. de Sanctis cap. 16. Caluin intimateth that not onely the Saints but nether the Angels can offer our prayers to God which is against most plaine Scripture PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Willet Controuers 9. quaestion 3. pag. 440. That Saints They offer not vp our praiers should offer vp our speciall praiers and make particuler request for vs to God is no where found in the Scripture but rather the contrarie Reineccius tom 4. Armaturae c. 7. The words of the Angel Tobiae loc cit are spoken after our fashion For there is no need that Angels should offer our praiers to the Lord because God is not farre of Caluin 3. Institut cap. 20. § 20. Christ hauing entred into the Sanctuarie of heauen till the end of the world alone doth offer to God requests of the people which sitteth a farre of in the entrie THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that the Angel offered Tobies praier to God that the foure and twentie seniors did offer the praiers of holie men before the lambe that an Angel did offer the praiers of all Saints before the throne of God The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely teach that Angels do not offer our praiers to the Lord that Saints do not offer our speciall praiers to God that Christ onely offereth to God the praiers of the people ART VIII WHETHER ANGELS OR Saints be to be praied vnto SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Genes 48. vers 16. Iacob thus praierh The Angel that Angels praied vnto deliuereth me from all euils blesse these children and be my name called vpon them the names also of my fathers Abraham and Isaac Osee 12. v. 4. And he Iacob preuailed against the Angel Iacob praied an Angel and was strenghned and he wept and besought him Tobie 5. vers 21. And Tobias answering saied well may you walke and
God be in your iourney and his Angel accompanie you Luke 16. ve 24. Christ ether in a historie or in a parable maketh the rich man thus praying Father Abraham haue mercie on me And v. 27. Then Father I beseech the that thou wouldest send c. And nether he nor Abraham condemneth this praier as impious or idolatrous but onely reiecteth it as two late Apocalyps 1. v. 4. 5. S. Ihon thus praieth Grace to you and peace from him that is and that was and shall come and from the seuen spirits which are in the sight of his throne and from Iesus Christ who is the faithfull witnesse CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Councel of Trent Sess 25. c. de Inuocat It is good and profitable humbly to call vpon the Saints that reigne together with Christ PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE The English Articles art 22. The doctrin of the Romanists Saints not to be praied vnto touching inuocation of Saints is a fonde thing vainly deuised In like sorte writeth Confes Heluet cap. 5. Wirtenbergica c. de Inuocat Augustana c. 21. Saxonica c. 22. and Articuli Smalcaldici c. de Inuocat Perkins in Serie causarum cap. 21. The inuocation of the Nor Angels Saints and Angels is much more impious So in reform Cath. pag. 251. Rainolds in his Conference c. 1. sect 2. calleth it a most pestilent basiliske Melancthon in Disput to 4. pa. 531. The inuocation of the dead is manifest idolatrie Beza in 1. Ioan. 2. ver 1. The Soules in heauen of Saints departed this life cannot be inuocated without impietie And lib. quaest resp vol. 1. affirmeth that the inuocation of Angels and dead Saints is impious idolatrie The Like say Protestants commonly THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that Iacob made praier to any Angel besought an Angel with teares that Tobie praied an Angel that the rich man inuocated Abraham that S. Ihon praied vnto the seuen spirits which are before the throne of God The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely teach that the inuocation of Angels or Saints is a found thing vainly deuised impious idolatrous and most pestilent ART IX WHETHER GOD BE TO BE praied vnto by the names of Saints SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Exod. 32. ver 11. and 13. But Moises besought the Lord his God praied by names of Saints God saying Remember Abraham Isaac and Israel thy seruants to whome thou swarest by thine owne selfe saying I will multiplie your seed as the starres of heauen Psal 131. v. 10. For Dauid thy seruants sake turne not away the face of thy Christ 2. Paralipomen 6. v. vlt. Remember the mercies of Dauid thy seruant Daniel 6. ver 35. Nether take thou away thy mercie from vs for Abraham thy beloued and Isaac thy seruant and Israel thy holie one CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME C. Bellarm. l. 1. de Sanctis cap. 19. In the ould testament men prayed God and alledged the merits of Saincts which were departed that their praiers might be holpen by them PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Confession of Saxonie c. 22. saieth that in the Prophets Not to be so praied there is not found any such inuocation Heare me O God for Abraham Confession of Bohemia art 2. They teach that God is to be praied and inuocated by the name of Christ onely Caluin 3. Instit c. 20. § 21. In Papistrie God is besought by the names of Saints Ibid. Their merits are obtruded for to purchase Gods good will The like teach commonly all Protestants So Perkins reform Catholik Contr. 14. p. 257. THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that Moises praied God by the names of Abraham Isaac and Iacob that Azarias in Daniel did the same that Salomon praied God for Dauids sake and for his mercies The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely teach that there is no such kinde of praier in the Prophets Heare me ô God for Abrahams sake that God is to be praied vnto onely by Christs name that to pray God by the names or merits of Saints is vnlawfull ART X. WHETHER GOD TAKE MERcie on men for the merits of Saints SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMITH 3. Reg. v. 4. But for Dauids sake our Lord his God gaue him a God hath mercie for the Saints sake lampe in Hierusalem that he might raise vp his sonne after him and establish Hierusalem because Dauid had done right in the eies of our Lord. 4. Reg. 19. ver 34. And I will protect this cittie and I will saue it for my selfe and for Dauid my seruant CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Prompt Cathol in Festo Om. Sanctorū The Scripture by manie exāples doth shew the merits of Saints by which the godlie are holpen C. Bellarm. l. 2. de Missa c. 8. We aske mercie of God by the merits and praiers of Saints through the mediation of Christ PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Apologia Confess Augustan c. de Inuoc We thinke that we ought not to trust that the merits of Saints are applied vnto vs that for them God is reconciled to vs. Whitaker l. 9. cont Dur. sect 38. We know that you are God hath not mercie for the Saints sake blasphemous and iniurious to Christ who pray to Saints that their merits may helpe you Caluin 3. Instit c. 20. § 21. In Papistrie Now and then the merits of Saints are obtruded for to get Gods good will De vera reform p. 339. It is not to be borne that which they say that through Gods liberalitie and Christs grace merits of Saints do profit vs for protection and obtayning of fauour Perkins ref Cathol Cōtr. 14. p. 266. We vtterlie denie that we are helped by merits of Saints ether liuing or departed THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that God did good to Abias Dauids great graundchild for Dauids sake and because Dauid had done right in Gods sight that is for the good deeds or merits of Dauid that he protected Hierusalem for himselfe and for Dauid The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely teach that God is not reconciled vnto vs for the merits of Saints that it is blasphemous to say that the merits of Saints do helpe vs that they profit vs not ether for protection or obtayning of fauour ART XI WHETHER ANGELS OR SAINTS are to be worshipped with the bowing of our bodie SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Gen. 19. v. 1. And the twoe Angels came to Sodom at euen and Lot sitting in the gates of the cittie who when he had seene Angels Worshipped them rose vp and went to meete them and adored prostrate on the ground and saied I beseech you my Lords turne into the house of your seruant Numbers 22. v. 31. Forewith our Lord opened the eyes of Balaam and he saw the Angel standing in the way with a drawne sword and he adored him flat to the ground Iosue 5. v. 13. When Iosue had seene an Angel and asked him who he was and the Angel had answered I am a Prince of the hoaste of our Lord Iosue fell flat to the
are to be had and kept especially in Churches PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Iuel art 14. sect 2. The Iewes had no manner of Image nether painted nor grauen in their temples Luther in Deuteron 7. to 3. I do not much loue images and would they were not in Churches Zuinglius l. de ver fals relig c. de Statuis Images must Not in tēples be taken out of Churches Sadeel ad Art 59. Abiurat God abhorreth images Peter Martyr in locis tit de Cult Imaginum § 22. We must not suffer that Images be had in Churches And in this point the Protestants doctrine is well enough knowne by their deeds yea some of them goe so farre as they denie that we may paint any Images of Christ or the Saints For thus saieth Leo Iudae in Zuinglius to 2. f. 627. If Christ and his Saints be in heauen it is wickednes euen to make their images With whome agreeth Zuinglius ib. 630. Hoffman also ib. f. 631. saieth That good man thinketh that images may be kept and suffered so that none do adore or worshippe thē But this opinion is contrarie to the testimonies of Scripture wherein the Lord commandeth that we shall not make them The same intimateth Confessio Heluet. c. 4. THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that God commanded twoe Images of Angels to be made and put in the Oracle that Salomon made twoe others and put them in the middest of the inner temple The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that God abhorreth images that they are not to be suffered in Churches no that the Images of Christ and his Saintes are to be made that the Iewes had no manner of Images in their temple ART IV. WHETHER THE HEATHENS or Idolaters did thinke their Idols to be Gods SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Exod 32. v. 8. God himselfe thus speaketh vnto Moises They haue made to themselues a molten calfe and haue adored and immolating hostes vnto it haue saied These are thy Gods Israel that haue brought thee out of the land of Egypt Actes 19. v. 26. Demetrius a Heathen hath these words Heathens thought theirs Idols to be Gods Sirs you see and heare that this same Paul by persuasion hath auerted a great multitude not onely of Ephesus but almost of all Asia saying That they are no Gods which be made by hands CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME C. Bellarm. l. 2. de Imagin c. 13. It is false that the Heathens did not thinke the idols to be Gods PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Caluin 1. Instit c. 11. § 9. Nether are the Heathēs to be thought They thought not so to haue beene so blockish as that they knew not that God was an other thing then stones and stockes Daneus Controuer 7. p. 1394. It is a lie that the Heathens did beleiue the Images of their Gods to haue beene their Gods themselues Zuinglius in Resp ad Valentin to 1. f. 247. The Heathens did no more account their Idols to be Gods then now we vse to account of our Images The like say Peter Martyr Controu Gardiner col 396. and Sadeel ad art 59. abiurat THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely teacheth that the idolaters did say that their molten calfe was their God that Demetrius a Heathen reprehēded S. Paul because he tought that they were no Gods which were made by mens hands The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that the Heathēs did not thinke stocks or stones to be their Gods that it is a lie that they thought the images of their Gods to be Gods themselues And yet these men who against the plaine testimonie of Scripture do defend the Heathens do accuse the Catholiks that they make Images their God THE SVMME OF THIS CHAPTER OF TEMPLES or materiall Churches Out of that which we haue rehearsed in this Chapter it appeareth that Protestants haue other kind of temples then the Scripture and Catholiks haue For the Scripture and Catholiks teach that temples or Churches are also for priuat praier that they are to be adorned and that images of Angels or Saintes are to be put in them all which Protestants denie and consequently they robe the Churches of one of their ends for which they are instituted and of their ornaments and holie Images CHAPTER IX OF BAPTISME ART I. WHETHER WATER BE necessarie to Baptisme SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. I HON 3. v. 5. Vnlesse a man be borne againe of Water necessarie to baptisme water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdome of God Ephes 5. v. 26. As Christ also loued the Church deliuered himselfe for it that he might sanctifie it cleansing it by the lauer of water in the word CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Councel of Trent sess 7. com 2. If anie say that true and naturall water is not necessarie to baptisme be he accursed PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Beza Epistola 2. vol. 3. Theol. Though water be wanting if Not necessarie the baptisme of one cannot nor ought to be differred with edification surely I would as well baptize with any other liquor as with water Polanus in Sylloge Thes part 2. p. 556. The externall and sensible matter of baptisme is water and that wanting an other liquor proportionable Festus Homius in Disput 45. We do not greatly denie but where no water can be had there some other liquor which hath the some vse that water hath and is very proportionable thereto may be vsed in the place thereof Vorstius in Antibellarm p. 367. Bellarmin and his do more restraine this essence of baptisme then our men are wonte to doe Whiles he auoucheth that pure water and that solemne forme In the name of the Father c. is simply in all places and times precisely necessarie Agayne Extraordinarily and in some most rare and vnusuall cases we do not deny but that some other kind of liquor which hath the same vse that water hath may be vsed The same teacheth Luther in Colloq Mensal cap. 15. and Riuet iudgeth it probable tractat 3. sect 3. Nether is it disliked by Saddel ad Artic. abiurat 11. CONFERENCE OF THE FORESAIED WORDS Scripture plainely saieth that vnlesse one be borne againe of water he cannot enter into the kingdome of heauen that Christ cleanseth his Church with the lauer of water The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that water is not simply necessarie that extraordinarily and in case of necessitie one may baptize in other liquor as well as in water that where water wanteth an other liquor proportionable may suffice Which is so euident a contradiction of Scripture as Protestants themselues sometimes confesse it See lib. 2. cap. 30. ART II. WHETHER INVOCATION of the holie Trinitie be necessarie in baptisme SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Matthew 28. ver 19. Going teach ye all nations baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Sonne and of the Holie Ghost CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Catechismus ad Parochos cap. de baptismo Pastors shall teach that this is the perfect and absolute
testimonies Zach. 1. Where the Angel praieth O Lord of hostes The same saieth P. Martyr in Rom. 8. Schlus to 8. Catal. p. 65. They denie that Angels offer vp our praiers to God l. 1. c. 4. art 7. Which Beza teacheth to be cōtrarie to Scripture in Apoc. 8. v. 3. Ihon learned by this visiō that the praiers of Saints in this world to wit of those that dayly offer to God pure sacrifices of praiers and good deeds are offered to God by the ministerie of Angels They denie that we ought to pray to Saints lib. 1. c. 4 art 8. Which to be repugnant to Scripture thus confesseth Luther to 1. de 1 precept f. 12. I say that in anie case we must recurre to the suffrages of Saints as in Iob it is saied And turne thy selfe to some of the Saints and as Salomon alledgeth his father Remember Dauid O Lord. And also the Patriach Iacob saied of Ephraim and Manasse let my name be inuocated vpon these children Touching Scripture they teach that there is nothing Of Scripture hard in it lib. 1. c. 5. art 1. Which is against Scripture as confesseth Christian ad Portum lib. cont Verron We confesse saieth he plainely with S. Peter as in the Epistles of S. Paul so in the Scripture that there are manie things hard to vnderstād Whitaker lib. 6. cont Dur. sect 22. I confesse as Peter saieth that there in Scriptures manie things hard to vnderstand The like saieth Pareus in Gal. 2. lect 25. They teach that the law is contrarie to the Ghospel l. 1. c. 5. art 7. Of which doctrine thus Serranus cōt Hayum part 3. With a more grosse and dangerous ignorance doth he oppose the law of Moises and the law of the Ghospell like twoe principles of Maniche as if they were contrarie Concerning S. Peter They denie that the Church was Of S. Peter founded vpon him l. 1. c. 6. art 2. Which to be against Scripture thus confesseth Whitaker Cont. 4. q. 2. cap. 2. We denie not that Peter was the foundation and gouernour of the Church and if they require we will graunt also that this was promised to him in these words Et. l. 5. cont Dur. sec 4. Who doth not confesse that Peter is the rock and foundation of the Church They denie that the keys of heauen were giuen to Peter l. 1. c. 6. art 3. Which is against Scripture For thus Spalatensis l. 1. de Rep. c. 7. Christ expressely saieth to Peter I will giue the keys wherefore fairewell they and let them be gone who vsing force to the letter will haue the keys to be giuen or promised not immediatly to Peter but excluding Peters person ether to the whole Church or to some other that is not Peter Et Whitaker Cont. 4. q. 2. c. 4. I graunt that the keys were promised to Peter for the place doth conuince that and I will neuer repugne Eliēsis in resp ad Apol. Bellar. c. 8. Who doubts that the keys were promised to Peter They denie that the Apostles were foundations of the Church l. 1. c. 6. art 5. Which Rainolds in his Confer c. 2. sec 1. acknowledgeth to be against the Scripture in these words The 12. Apostles are called 12. foundations Apoc. 21. v. 14. Et Serran cōt Hayum part 3. All the Prophets and Apostles are termed in Scripture foundations of the Church Cōcerning Pastors of the Church They denie that there Of Pastors are alwaies some l. 1. c. 7. art 1. which thus censureth Melancthō apud Luther 10. 1. f. 483. Where the Church is there must be the right ordering of Ministers because the ordination of Ministers is one of the proper guifts of the Church according to that Ephes 4. He gaue Pastors c. Kemnice in Exam. part 2. tit de ordine The Sonne of God himselfe will haue the Ministerie of those that teach the Ghospell to be conserued with a continuall vocation in the Church So Paul saieth Ephes 4. Et Caluin in Ephes 4. vers 13. Here Paul admonis heth that the vse of the Ministerie is not for a time but perpetuall as long as we liue in the world Touching the Church they denie that she doth perpetually Of the Church endure l. 1. c. 8. art 4. And notwithstanding Whitaker Cōt 2. q. 3. c. 2. saieth Who denieth or doubteth that the Church is founded for cuer and to cōtinew for euer he is no Christian They denie also that she is alwaies visible l. 1. c. 8. art 5. Which thus condemneth Daneus l. de visib Eccles Who denieth the true Church of God and her to haue beene visible frō the beginning of the world he doubtlesse sheweth himselfe to be ignorant of the first page of the Bible Et Reineccius to 4. Arm. c. 3. The testimonies of Scripture teach that the visible companie neuer perisheth quite They teach that the Church can erre euen in fundamētall points lib. 1. c. 8. art 6. And yet Caluin writeth 4. Instit c. § 10. By which words Paul doth signifie that to the end Gods trueth faile not in the world the Church is a faithfull keeper thereof Touching Baptisme they denie that ether water or Of Baptisme the naming of the B. Trinitie is necessarie thereto l. 1. c. 10. art 1. 2. And yet Reineccius to 4. Armat c. 18. thus writeth Beza most fondely imagineth that in want of water we may vse other liquor And Beza l. quaestionum resp vol. 3. If anie should not baptize in the name of the Trinitie or for water especially wittingly should vse some other thing surely this would not be the baptisme which Christ instituted Pareus in Colleg. Theol. 9. disp 22. There is no Christian that doubteth that the baptisme of water according to Christs institution ought to be administred onely in the name of the Father c. They denie that baptisme is necessarie to Infants l. 1. c. 10. art 9. Of which thing Melancthon in Catechesi tom 3. giueth this iudgement I answere that baptisme is necessarie to Infants because Christs commandement is vniuersall Ioan. 3. vnlesse c. Vrbanus Regius in Epist ad Heminges to 2. The Catholik Church doth rightly beleiue out of the Scriptures that Baptisme is necessarie to saluation They denie that the children of the faithfull are in state of damnation before they be baptized l. 1. c. 10 art 9. Which thus cōdemneth Schlusselburg l. 1. Theol. art 18. It may be proued manie wayes out of the word of God that the children of the faithfull are not holie from their mothers wombs They say that baptisme is not the lauer of the soule nor purgeth sinnes l. 1. cap. 10. art 6. And yet thus writeth Beza in Prae. 2. part resp ad Montisb Did euer anie Christian denie that baptisme is the lauer of regeneration which the Apostle witnesseth in expresse words Et Shlusselb l. 1. Theol. art 18. This blasphemie of the Caluinists that Baptisme doth not purge sinnes the holie Ghost
to giue his life for vs 120 15 VVhether he merited any thing for himselfe 121 16 VVhether he sufficiently redeemed vs 123 17. VVhether he redeemed vs with his blood 125 18. VVhether he died for reprobates 127 19. VVhether he died for all 129 20. VVhether his blood be corrupted 131 21. VVhether his soule descēded to hell 132 22. VVhether he suffered the paines of hell 134 23. VVhether he entred to his disciples the doores being shut 136 24. VVhether he penetrated the heauēs 138 25. VVhether he praieth for vs in heauen 139 Chap. 4. Of Angels and Saints Art 1. VVhether Angels and Saints doe the will of God 144 2. VVhether Saints enioye their felicitie 145 3. VVhether the glorie of Saints be equall 147 4. VVhether Angels and Saints pray for vs. 148 5. VVhether Saints haue care of vs 150 6. VVhether they heare our praiers 152. 7. VVhether Angels offer our praiers to God 153 8. VVhether they be to be praied vnto 155 9. VVhether God be to be praied vnto by the names of Saints 156 10. VVhether God haue mercie on vs for Saints sake 158 11. VVhether Angels or Saints be to be bowed vnto 159 12. VVhether Saints be to be imitated of vs 161 13. VVhether holie men receaue vs into heauenlie tabernacles 162 14. VVhether anie Saint may be termed our hope 163 15. VVhether anie had power to worke Miracles 164 16. VVhether Saints do reigne with Christ 166 17. VVhether anie was full of grace 167 Chap. 5. Of the Scripture or worde of God Art 1. VVhether anie place of Scripture be hard to vnderstand 170 2. VVhether Scripture can be vnderstood without the holie Ghost 172 3. VVhether the Ghospel containe any law 174 4. VVhether the Ghospell preach pennance 167 5. VVhether the Ghospell reproue sinne 178 6. VVhether the Ghopell promise saluation without conditiō of works 180 7. VVhether the Gospell be contrarie to the law 182 8. VVhether the law of Moyses commanded faith in Christ 184. 9. VVhether anie vnwritten traditions be to be kept 186 Chap. 6. Of S. Peter and the Apostles Art 1. VVhether S. Peter were first of the Apostles 189. 2. VVhether the Church was built on S. Peter 190. 3. VVhether the keyes were giuen to him 192. 4. VVhether his faith failed 193. 5. VVhether the Apostles were foundations of the Church 195. 6. VVhether the Apostles were simply to be heard 196. 7. VVhether they were sufficient witnesses of the trueth 198 8. VVhether they learned anie point after Christs ascension 200. 9. VVhether Iudas was truely a disciple 201. 10. VVhether Iudas was a Bishop 202. Chap. 7. Of Pastors of the Church Art 1. Whether Pastors alwaies continew 204. 2. VVhether authoritie be in the Pastors 206. 3. VVhether one Pastor can excommunicate 208. 4. VVhether Pastors can make lawes 209. 5. VVhether Bishops be rulers of the Church 210 6. VVhether they rule the Church 211. 7. VVhether Pastors be to be called Priests 213. 8. VVhether a Pastor can be without calling 214. 9 Whether a Pastor may haue temporall iurisdiction 216. 10 VVhether Moyses were a Preist 218. Chap. 8. Of the Church Art 1. VVhether the Church be one 220. 2. VVhether ill men be of the Church 223. 3 Whether reprobats be of the Church 225. 4 VVhether the Church euer continew 226. 5. VVhether it be alwaies visible 228. 6. VVhether it be infallible 230. 7. VVhether it be simply to be heard 231. 8. VVhether trueth relieth on the Church 232. Chap. 9. Of Temples or materiall Churches Art 1. VVhether Churches be for priuat Praiers 235. 2. VVhether Churches be to be adorned 237. 3. VVhether Images may be set in Churches 4. VVhether Heatens thought their idols to be Gods 240 Chap. 10. Of Baptisme Art 1. Whether water be necessarie to baptisme p. 242. 2. Whether inuocation of the Trinitie be necessarie to baptisme p. 243. 3. Whether baptisme be necessarie as by precept p. 245. 4. VVhether it be necessarie as a meane p. 246. 5. VVhether Simon Magus and such were baptized p. 248. 6. VVhether baptisme be effectuall in reprobats p. 150. 7. VVhether baptisme clenseth sinne p. 252. 8. VVhether it pardonneth sinnes to come p. 256. 9. VVhether before baptisme children be in state of damnation p. 258. 10. VVhether the baptisme of S. Ihon and of Christ were different p. 261. 11. VVhether certaine Ephesians had receaued S. Ihons baptisme p. 262. 12. VVhether they had heard of the holie Ghost p. 264. Chap. 11. Of the Eucharist Art 1. VVhether the Eucharist be the bodie and blood of Christ p. 266. 2. VVhether Christs flesh be to be eaten and his blood to be drunk p. 280. 3. VVhether Christ gaue the blood of the new testament to be drunk p. 283. 4. VVhether the Eucharisticall Chalice be Christs testament p. 284. 5. Vhether at the time of his Supper his blood was shed p. 286. 6. VVhether the Eucharisticall Chalice was shed for vs p. 288. 7. VVhether bread be necessarie to the Eucharist p. 289. 8. VVhether the Eucharist be to be made of azime bread p. 290. 9. VVhether bread and wine whereof the Eucharist is made be to be blessed p. 292. 10. VVhether there ought to be anie preparation to the Eucharist p. 293. 11. VVhether there be anie Sacrifice in the Church p. 295. 12. VVhether is there anie altar in the Church p. 296. 13. VVhether the Paschal lambe was sacrificed p. 297. Chap. 12. Of the other Sacraments Art 1. VVhether Preists can forgiue sinnes p. 300. 2. VVhether we must cōfesse our sinnes p. 302. 3. VVhether grace be giuen by imposition of hands p. 305. 4. VVhether hands be to be imposed vpon those that are baptized p. 305. 5. VVhether Matrimonie be a Sacrament p. 306. 6. VVhether one may marrie after diuorce p. 307. 7. VVhether the sick are to be anoiled p. 310. 8. VVhether the new Sacraments excell the ould p. 311. Chap. 13. Of faith Art 1. VVhether faith be a worke 314. 2. VVhether faith beleiue onely God his promises 315. 3. VVhether to beleiue that Christ is God be iustifying faith 317. 4. VVhether faith be one 319. 5. VVhether all articles of faith may be beleiued without the holie Ghost 321. 6. VVhether faith differ from hope and charitie 322. 7. VVhether faith be greater then charitie 324. 8. VVhether faith be without charitie 325. 9. VVhether it be without confession 328. 10. VVhether without good works it be dead 329. 11. VVhether faith whereof S. Iames speaketh be iustifying faith 331. 12. VVhether anie faith be perfect 333. 13. VVhether faith be perfected by good works 331. 14. VVhether by faith we onely know that we are iustified 336. 15. VVhether faith be necessarie to iustification or saluation 338. 16. VVhether faith be anie cause of iustificatien 340. 17. VVhether faith alone cā iustifie 342. 18. VVhether faith iustifie as it is beleife 344. 19. VVhether faith it selfe be imputed to iustice 346 20. VVhether faith be proper to the iust 348 21 VVhether it be
power did open the shut dores The dores were not shut in the very instant of his passing See more art 23. Scripture Hauing a great high preist that hath penetrated Christ penetrated the heauen Not penetrated them Christ praieth for vs. He praieth not for vs. the heauenes Iesus the Sonne of God Protestants Christ ascended without penetration of quantities VVe admit no penetration See art 14. Scripture I will aske the Father VVho also maketh intercession for vs. Protestants VVe may not imagin that Christ as a Suppliant praieth for vs. His death and resurrection are in steed of an eternall intercession See more art 25. CHAPTER IV. OF ANGELS AND SAINTES SCripture And the Angell of our Lord answered and saied O Angels pray for vs. Lord of Hostes how long will thou not haue mercie on Hierusalem Protestants The Scripture teacheth not that Angels pray They pray not We denie that the holie Angels do pray in particular for our necessities See art 4. Scripture And he preuailed against the Angel and was Angels to be praied vnto Not to be praied vnto strenghtned and he wept and besought him Protestants The inuocation of Saints and Angels is impious See art 8. Scripture Our lord opened the eyes of Balaam and he saw the Angels to be bowed vnto Angel standing in the way with a drawne sword and he adored him flat to the ground Protestants We must beware that we nether adore nor worship Not to be bowed vnto Angels He could not fall downe to the Angel without diminishing Gods honour See art 11. Scripture Nether take thou away thy mercie from vs for God to be praied by the names of Saintes Not so to be praied Abraham thy beloued and Isaac thy seruant and Israel the holie one Protestants In the Prophets there is not found anie such inuocation Heare me o God for Abraham God is not to be besought by the names of Saintes See more art 9. Scripture For your selues know how you ought to imitate vs. Saintes to be imitated Not to be imitated God protecteth vs for the Saintes sake Not for their sakes Some Saintes bad power to worke miracles None had such power Santes receaue men into eternall tabernacles They do not receaue Be ye followers of me Protestants These trifles ought not to be sung to the people that they should imitate the Saintes God requireth that we follow his scripture only and not the examples of Saintes See art 12. Scripture I will protect this cittie and saue it for my self and for Dauid my seruant Protestants It is not to be borne that they say through Gods liberalitie and Christs grace the merits of Saints do profit vs to protection See art 10. Scripture And he gaue them power to cure infirmities and to cast out Diuels Protestants God neuer gaue anie man power of working miracles ether mediatly or immediatly See art 16. Scripture Make vnto you freinds of the mammon of iniquitie that when you faile they may receaue you into the eternall tabernacles Protestants VVe must not vnderstand that men shall receaue vs into eternall tabernacles See art 13. Scripture They shal be priests of God and Christ and shall Saints reigne with him reigne with him Protestants The Saints do not reigne with Christ. See art They reigne not with him 16. Scripture And he that shall ouercome and keepe my workes Saintes rule nations vnto the end I will giue him power ouer the nations and he shall rule them with a rodde of yron Protestants It is an errour that Angels or the soules of the They rule them not blessed men are appointed of God to rule and gouerne vs. See art 16. cit CHAPTER V. OF THE SCRIPTVRE OR WORD OF GOD. SCripture Paule according to the wisdome giuen him hath Some things in Scripture are hard written as also in all Epistles speaking in them of these things in which are certaine hard to be vnderstood Protestants Peter saieth not that Paules Epistles are obscure No thing hard no nor that there are some obscure things in Paules Epistles No parte of the Scripture is obscure How can the Scripture be called obscure in anie parte See more art 1. Scripture Iesus began to preach and say Doe pennance for The Ghospel preacheth pennance It preacheth it not the kingdom of heaune is at hand Protestants The Ghospell properly is not a preaching of pennance The Ghospell preacheth not to vs that this or that is to be done or exacteth any thing of vs. See more art 4. Scripture If thou will enter into life keepe the commandments Promiseth life conditionally Protestants The Ghospell promiseth saluation euen to those Not conditionally that haue no good workes at all The Ghospel requireth not workes to saluation See more art 6. Ghospell not contrarie to the law Scripture Doe we then destroie the law by faith God forbid But we establish the law Protestants The Ghospell is truly opposite to the law The law It is contrarie to it aad the Ghospell of themselues wholy fight one with the other See more art 7. Scripture All things must needs be fulfilled which are written Moises law commandeth faith in Christ It commandeth it not Traditions to be kept Not to be kept in the law of Moises and the Prophets and the Psalmes of me Protestants Faith in Christ the law neuer knew The law of Moises commandeth not faith in Christ See more art 8. Scripture Hould the traditions which you haue learnt whether it be by word or by our epistle Protestants VVe care not for vnwritten traditions we acknowledge no word but that which is written See more art 9. CHAPTER VI. OF S. PETER AND THE APOSTLES SCripture Thou art Peter and vpon this rock will I build Church built vpon Peter my Church Protestants Peter is not rock because Christ did not build Not vpon Peter his Church vpon Peter See more art 2. Scripture And I say to thee Thou art Peter And to thee Keyos giuen to Peter I will giue the keyes of the kingdome of heauen Protestants Christ called faith the rock to which rock not to Not giuen to him Peter be gaue these keyâ—s See art 3. Scripture I haue praied for thee Peter that thy faith faile Peters faith failed not It failed not Protestants For a time surely Peters saith failed whiles he denied Christ It is a blasphemous speech that Peter denying Christ did not lese his faith See more art 4. Scripture And the wall of the cittie hauing twelue foundations The Apostles foundations and in them twelue names of the twelue Apostles of the lambe Protestants The Apostles were not the foundations See Not foundations more art 5. Scripture He that heareth you heareth me The Apostles simply to be heard Not simply to be heard Protestants The Apostles be not simply to be heard but to be examined according to the rule of Scripture S. Paules
from infernall paines entred to his disciples the doores being shut penetrated heauen and there praieth for vs. None of which things agree to the Protestants Christ and consequently he is a farre different yea opposite vnto the true Christ described to vs by the holie Scripture Manifest also it is that Protestants like true theues Protestants take from Christ steale from Christ his due honour because the denie that as he is man he is to be worshipped to be praied vnto that he is head of the Church lawmaker or Honor. iudge They robbe him of his power in denying that as Power he is man he can giue life forgiue sinnes raise the dead enter the doores being shut penetrate the heauens or worke any true miracle They bereaue him of his knowledge Knowledge for they denie that as he is man he knoweth all things knoweth the secrets of hearts can heare our ptaiers knew the kinde of tree but had need to be tought as men are They steale away his iustice or Vertue Vertue for they teach that he was truely and most truely a sinner that as much as lay in him he refused to doe the office of a Mediatour that he had vnconsiderate desires and contrarie to his vocation that he behaued himselfe vnciuilly towards his mother confessed his delicatenesse let slippe a speech of desperation nay was ouerwhelmed with desperation and exceedingly despairing They take from him certaintie of saluation because Certaintie of saluation they say that he was afraied of his saluation and was almost perswaded that he was vndone They take Worthe away worthines in saying that nothing had beene done by his corporall death but that there needed a greater price that he could not merite to be iudge of the world that with all his workes he merited not heauen that he could not merite our redemption by a worthie price but by acceptation of his Father Finally they spoile him of his goodnes and merite because they say that he died not for the wicked for the reprobate Mercie for all but onely for some few elect and that now he praieth not for vs in heauen And if you take away from Christ as man his honour his power his knowledge his iustice his worthines his certaintie of saluation his goodnes what remaineth of Christ as man but the bare name of a Sauiour Whereupon rightly saied Saint Austin If we diligently consider those things which belonge to Christ he is onely in name found amongst any Heretiks whatsoeuer But hitherto hauing treated of God and Christ now let vs treate of Angels and Saints who happily raigne with him in heauen CHAPTER III. OF ANGELS AND SAINTS IN HEAVEN ART I. WHETHER ANGELS AND Saints in heauen do the will of God SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. PSALME 102. ver 20. Blesse our Lord all ye Angels doe Gods word his Angels mightie in power doing his word And v. 21. Blesse our Lord all ye his hoastes you his ministers that do his will Doe his will Mathew 6. ver 10. Thy will be done as in heauen in earth also Apocal. 21. v. 27. There shall not enter into it Heauen any polluted thing nor that doeth abhomination and maketh lie CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Card. Bellarmin lib. 1. de bonis operibus in particul cap. 6. In heauen the holie Angels obey God readily perfectly and in all things PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Caluin in Coloss 1. v. 20. In this selfe same obedience which Angels obeobedience satisfieth not the Angels giue to God there is not such exquisite perfection as it satisfieth God in euerie point and without pardon And 3. Instit c. 14. § 16. Nether the Angels themselues are answerable to that exceeding iustice of God And c. 17. § 9. In the sight of God nether the Angels are iust enough The same Caluin Concion 16. in Iob. There is in the Angels There is fault in the Angels follie and vanitie that is fault God found in his Angels that which he may iustly reprehend Nether are the Angels of that perfection in which if it be rigorously examined nothing may be found worthie of blame CONFERENCE OF THE FORESAIED WORDS Scripture expressely teacheth that the Angels doe Gods word doe his will that Gods will is done in heaueÌ„ that into heauen entreth nothing that doth abhominatioÌ„ or is polluted The same say Catholiks Protestants Expressely teach that the obedience of Angels satisfieth not God in euerie point and without pardoÌ„ that the Angels answere not to Gods iustice that they are not iust enough in Gods sight that in them is follie vanitie and fault that which God may iustly reprehend that which is worthie of blame ART II. WHETHER THE SAINTS DO alreadie enioye their heauenly felicitie SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Apocal. 7. v. 14. These are they which are came out of great Saints are before the throne of God tribulation and haue washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the lambe therefore they are before the throne of God and they serue him day and night in his temple Luke 23. v. 43. And Iesus saied to him Amen I say to thee this day thou shalt be with me in paradise CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Councel of Trent Session 25. saieth That Saints enioye euerlasting felicitie in heauen and do reigne with Christ. PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther Postilla in Dom. 2. post Trinit fol. 286. All the The Saints sleepe Fathers before Christs incarnation went into Abrahams bosome that is in death abode with firme faith in this word and slept in it and therein sleepe euen now vntill the last daye excepting theÌ„ who rose with Christ And to 6. in c. 25. Gen. saieth that Saints sleepe and know not what is done Which otherwhere he often times repeateth Caluin in 2. Petri 2. v. 4. Hence we may gather not onely what paine the reprobate sustaine after death but also what is the Enioy not yet felicitie state of the children of God For they quietly rest in hope of assured felicitie howbeit as yet they enioy it not In Math. 22. v. 23. For nether God doth affirme that the soules remaine after death as if now they enioyned their present glorie and happines but he differreth their hoppe vntill the last daye Which he eftsones repeateth in Psychopannychia p. 405. and otherwere Wherevpon Spalatensis l. 5. de Rep. c. 8. n. 113. 115. and 119. confesseth that Caluin teacheth that the blessed soules departed Nor their essentiall reward out of this world dot not enioye their essentiall reward felicitie and glorie vntill the last daye And himselfe n. 103. affirmeth that that opinion which attributeth perfect felicitie vnto blessed soules before the resurrection hath difficulties which cannot be answered and n. 120. coÌ„mendeth Caluins opinion in this matter as pious and learned And the reason why he inclineâ—h vnto him he giueth n. 102. in these words For if blessed If Saints wereinglorie they could heauen vs.
ground and adoring saied c. CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Councel of Trent Sess 25. By the Images which we kisse and to which we put of our hatts we worshippe the Saints whose images they are PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Confessio Mulhusnia art 10. We dislike the veneration Not to be worshipped of Saints And Heluet. c. 5. We nether adore nor worshippe nor inuocate the Saints in heauen Perkins reform Cathol Controu 14. c. 2. p. 249. Because No not with ciuill worshippe Angels appeare not now as in former times not so much as ciuill adoratiō in anie bodilie gesture is to be done vnto them We denie that anie ciuill worshippe in bending of the knee or prostrating of the bodie is to be giuen to the Saints Humfrey ad Ration 3. Campiani pag. 263. Vigilantius tought that Saints are not to be reuerenced nor that we ought Not to be reuerenced superstitiously to runne to their monuments We say the same Whitaker Contr. 2. q. 6. c. 3. Papists worshippe Angels and the Saints Luther postilla in Domin 23. post Trinit For what other was the worshippe and reuerence of Saints but a diuelish thing Caluin 1. Instit c. 12. § 3. He could not fall downe to the Angel without diminishing of Gods glorie Bullinger Decad. 4. form 9. We must be ware that we nether adore inuocate or worshippe Angels The same say Protestants commonly THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that Lot seing Angels adored prostrate on the ground that Iosue hearing of an Angel that he was a Prince of Gods hoaste fell flat on the groūd and adored that Balaam adored flat to the ground an Angel and yet was not reprehended therefore ether of the Angel or of the Scripture Catholiks say the same Protestants expressely teach that it is not lawfull to reuerence venerate adore worshippe or bow to the Angels or Saints but it is a diuelish thing And yet Luther himselfe thus writeth epist ad Erphurdienses tom 7. fol. 500. I do not thinke that they are to be reiected or condemned who whorshippe Saints without presuming trust For whatsoeuer they doe to Saints they do to Christ. Nether can it be but Christ is partaker of the honour which is giuen to Saints ART XII WHETHER SAINTS BE TO be imitated of vs SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. 1. Cor. 11. v. 1. Be ye followers of me as I also of Christ Philippen 3. ver 17. Be followers of me brethren and obserue Saints to be imitated and followed them that walke so as you haue our forme 2. Thessalon 3. v. 7. For your selues know how you ought to imitate vs. Hebr. 13. v. 7. Remember your Prelats who haue spoaken the word of God to you the end of whose conuersation beholding imitate their faith CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Lucae 9. v. 54. The faithfull Christians piously and carefully imitate the examples of the holie Fathers PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther Postilla in Festo S. Ioann fol. 378. These trifles Saints not to be imitated or followed ought not be sung vnto the people out of the pulpits in preaching that they should imitate the Saints and follow their footesteppes And in ferijs eiusdem fol. 91. An ould error hath gotten possession and force that we all looke vpon the deeds and liues of Saints and endeauour to follow them thinking like fooles that this is a great pietie The way of the Lord admitteth not examples of Saints but in all things expecteth the commandments of the Lord onely In die Epiphaniae fol. 130. God Nor their examples requireth that we follow his onely Scripture and not the examples of Saints THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that we must follow Saints and imitate them Catholiks say the same Protestants expressely teach that Saints are not to be imitated or followed their examples not to be admitted that it is an errour to looke vpon the liues of Saints and follow them ART XIII WHETHER HOLIE MEN receaue vs into euerlasting tabernacles SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Luc. 16. v. 9. And I say vnto you Make vnto you friends of Holie men receaue vs into Heauen the mammon of iniquitie that when you faile they may receaue you into the eternall tabernacles CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Lucae 16. ver 9. Christ teacheth that they to whome we haue done good do receaue vs into eternall tabernacles that is Christ for thē not onely by reason of the good worke but also for their praiers giueth vs life euerlasting PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther postilla in Dom. 9. post Trinit fol. 107. We must They receaue vs not into Heauen not vnderstand that men shall receaue vs into eternall tabernacles Illyricus in Claue part 2. tractar 6. Pore men are saied to receaue their benefactours into eternall tabernacles whereas this is the deed of the Father alone for the merit of his Sonne Caluin in Lucae 16. vers 9. citat He meaneth not that we must get patrons and intreatours who by their protection may sheild and defend vs. But they do fondely and absurdly who hereupon gather that we are holpen by the praiers or suffrages of the dead THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that holie men to whome we haue done good do receaue vs into eternall tabernacles The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely teach that no men receaue vs into eternall tabernacles that that is the deed of the Father alone that we are not to get patrons or intreatours for vs. ART XIV WHETHER ANIE SAINT may be called our hope SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. 1. Thessalon 2. v. 18. For what is our hope or ioy or crowne Saints called our hope of glorie Are not you before our Lord Iesus in his coming For you are our glorie and ioy Ihon 5. v. 45. Thinke not that I will accuse you to the Father there is that accuseth you Moises in whome you trust CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME C. Bellarm. l. 1. de bonis oper in part c. 15. The B. Virgin is called our hope because after God we trust especially in her intercession PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Caluin in Cōfes p. 109. Many kinds of praiers were brought Not to be so called in which had horrible blasphemies as when the Virgin is termed of infidels the gate of saluation our hope Beza in Ioan. 2. v. 5. Idolatrie hath so farre preuailed that they are not ashamed to call Marie the Queene of heauen their hope and saluation P. Martyr in 1. Cor. c. 3. They call the B. Virgin their hope as if they would put their hope in a creature Pareus in Colloq 3. Swal You salute Marie by the Title of your hope Which salutation tendeth to the dishonour of God THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that the Thessalonians were the hope ioy and crowne of glorie of the Apostle before our Lord that the Iews did trust in Moises and yet were not reprehended therefore Catholiks say the like Protestants expressely say that it tendeth to the dishonour of
God is idolatrie and horrible blasphemie to call our bessed Ladie our hope ART XV. WHETHER SAINTS HAD power to worke miracles SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Matth. 10. ver 1. And hauing called his twelue disciples together Some Saints had power to doe miracles he gaue them power ouer vncleane spirits that they should cast them out and should cure all manner of disease and all manner of infirmitie Marke 3. ver 15. And he gaue them power to cure infirmities and to cast out diuels 1. Corin. 12. v. 9. To one certes by the spirit is giuen the word of wisdome to an other the grace of doing cures in one spirit to an other the working of miracles CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME C. Bellarm. l. 4. de Eccles c. 14. How could God more plainly expresse his mynd then by giuing to one the singular guift of miracles PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Perkins in Gal. 3. v. 3. God neuer gaue any man the power of Neuer man had power to worke miracles working miracles ether mediatly or immediatly Vrsinus in Catechismo q. 99. The power of working miracles is not transfused into Saints therefore metaphorically they are saied to worke them Beza in 1. Cor. 12. v. 6. But in doing of miracles if we consider the worke it selfe Gods power doth worke without any communication at all which he imparteth not euen to the Angels themselues What then will some say Were the saints of God like stocks blocks in the working of miracles No. For ether by their praiers they obtained the miracles of God or vnderstāding Gods will by inward grace or peculiar reuelation they declared it but so that no power of theirs did in any sorte concurre as efficient cause to the working of the miracles Piscator in Thes l. 2. p. 373. Doth God imparte to any creature the power of working miracles We denie it because the power of working miracles is omnipotencie it selfe THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that Christ gaue the Apostles power to cure all manner of diseases infirmities that to some is giuen the grace of working miracles Catholiks say the same Protestants expressely say that God neuer gaue to any creature the power of working miracles ether mediatly or immediatly that he imparteth not to Saints the power of working miracles that no power in them concurreth as efficient cause to the working of miracles but onely the power that is in God that all power of working miracles is omnipotencie it selfe and neuer imparted to any creature ART XVI WHETHER SAINTS DO reigne with Christ SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Apocal. 5. v. 10. Thou hast made vs to our God a kingdome and preists and we shall reigne vpon the earth Apocal. 20. ver 6. They shal be preists of God and of Christ Saints reigne with Christ and shall reigne with him a thousand years c. 22. v. 5. Our Lord God doth illuminate them and they shall reigne for euer and euer Apocal. 2. v. 26. And he that shall ouercome and keepe my Haue power ouer nations workes vnto the end I will giue him power ouer the nations and he shall rule them with a rodde of yron Cap. 3. vers 21. He that shall ouercome I will giue vnto him to sitte with me in my throne as I also haue ouercome and haue sitten with my Father in his throne CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Card. Bellarm. lib. 1. de Sanctis cap. 18. We learne that the soules of holie men after their death before the resurrection do receaue power ouer nations and do rule them and sitte in the throne of Christ that is do with him gouerne the whole worlde PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Reineccius tom 4. Armaturae c. 7. The Saints do not reigne Saints reigne not with Christ Doe not rule nations with Christ The like hath Vorstius in Antibel p. 298. Pareus in Collegio Theol. 9. disput 18. saieth that it is an errour to say That as Angels so the soules of blessed men are appointed of God to rule and gouerne vs. Of the same opinion are all other Protestants who say that the Saints in heauē nether know nor care what is done on earth THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that Saints reigne with Christ gouerne nations sit in Christs throne Catholiks say the same Protestants expressely say that Saints reigne not with Christ are not appointed of God to rule and gouerne vs know not nor care not what is done on earth ART XVII WHETHER ANIE SAINT were full of grace SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Luc. 1. v. 28. the Angel saieth to our B. Ladie Haile full of grace Act. 36. ver 28. Consider therefore brethren seuen men of you Some Saints full of grace of good testimonie full of the holie Ghost and wisdome whome we may appoint ouer this businesse And v. 8. And Stephen full of grace and fortitude did great wonders CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME S. Thomas 3. part q. 27. art 5. The B. Virgin Marie obtained such fulnesse of grace that she was nighest to the authour of grace PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Illyricus in Lucae 1. v. 28. cit It is ill translated Ful of grace None full of grace For Christ alone is full of grace and trueth Caluin in Lucae 1. v. 15. expoundeth Full of grace Aboue the ordinarie course Of the same mynd also are other Protestants who ether denie that the Angel saluted our B. Ladie Full of grace or denie that we haue anie inherent iustice or grace in vs as we shall see hereafter THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that our ladie and S. Stephen was full of grace and that others were full of the holie Ghost And Catholiks say the same Protestants saye that Christ alone was full of grace and that others haue no grace or iustice in them A SVMME OF THIS CHAPTER OF ANGELS or Saints It appeareth out of that which hath beene rehearsed in this chapter that Protestants do farre otherwise describe vnto vs Angels and Saints then the holie Scripture and Catholiks doe For according to the Scripture and Catholiks they are perfectly iust and perfectly doe the will of God but not according to Protestants In the verdict of the Scripture and Catholiks they pray for vs haue care of our matters heare our praiers In the opinion of Protestants they do none of these According to the Scripture and Catholiks they are to be praied vnto to be worshipped to be imitated of vs and God is to be inuocated by their names who also for their good deeds their sake doth good vnto vs but according to Protestants none of all these things belong vnto them In the doctrin of the Scripture and Catholiks they enioy their heauenlie felicitie reigne with Christ and some of them had power to doe miracles but in the Protestants Doctrin they nether enioy their heauenly happines nor reigne with Christ nor anie of them had or can haue power to worke miracles Protestants therefore steale from Angels and Saints Protest steale from Saints Power
authoritie of the Church THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that the Church is the pillar and ground of trueth The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that the Church doth not sustaine or conserue the trueth that faith relieth not vpon her authoritie that trueth doth not relie vpon her authoritie as a foundation no not in regard or respect of vs. THE SVMME OF THIS CHAPTER OF the Church What hath beene repeated in this Chapter doth make manifest that Protestants describe vnto vs a Church quite different from that which the holie Scripture and Catholikes propose For the Scripture and Catholiks teach that the Church is but one Protestants say there are twoe Churches They say she containeth both badde and reprobates that she endureth for euer is alwaies visible infallible in faith is simply in all things to be heard and is the pillar of faith touching vs All which points Protestants denie They also make manifest that Protestants steale from the Church a great parte of her to wit the badde and reprobate faithfull and manie of her chiefe properties namely vnitie perpetuitie continuall visibilitie infallibilitie and our dependencie vpon her in beleife And thus much of the Church Now of Temples or materiall Churches CHAPTER VIII OF TEMPLES OR MATERIALL CHVRCHES ART I. WHETHER THE CHVRCHES be also for priuat praier SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. KINGS 3. cap. 8. ver 41. Moreouer also the stranger Place of praier for a straÌ„ger which is not of thy people Israel when he shall come from a farre countrie for thy name and shall pray in this place thou shalt heare in heauen in the firmament of thy habitation and shalt do all things for which the stranger shall inuocate thee 2. Paralipomen 6. vers 21. Whosoeuer shall pray in this For whomsoeuer place heare out of thy habitation that is from the heauens and be propitious Mathew 21. vers 13. It is written my house shal be called a house of praier Luc. 2. v 37. Who departed not from the temple by fastings For S. Anne and praiers seruing night and day c. 24. v. 53. And they were alwaies in the Temple praising and blessing God CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Cardin. Bellarm. lib. 3. de Santis cap. 4. The Churches of Christians are rightly instituted for to pray also priuate praiers PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Tindal in Fox Actes 1610. pag. 1138. Churches are for preaching For preaching onely onely And Fox addeth This article containeth nether errour nor honestie Vorstius in Antibellarm p. 327. Nether is this a lawfull end Not for priuat praier of Churches that the faithfull pray priuaty in them Luther in Festo Dedicat. Templi fol. 447. The people which beleiue in Christ are all iust and subiect to no law especially Not dedicated to praier that pertaineth to ceremonies of temples And therefore now amongst them there is no temple dedicated to praier And hereupon Protestants in Confes Heluet. c. 23. bidde them beware that they wearie not the people with to long praier And in Confess Argentinen cap. 21. They detest our long paier as also doth Caluin in Matth. 6. ver 7. and finally in their Synod at Dordrach art 46. they define that publik euening praiers are not to be brought in where they are not in vse and to be taken away where they are So well these men loue praiers in Churches THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that Gods Church is the house of praier for all people a place of praier where the stranger may make his praier and be heard that Anna night and day praied in the temple that the Apostles were alwaies in the temple praising God The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that Churches are onely for preaching that is no lawfull end of Churches to pray priuatly in them that Christians haue no temple dedicated to praier and forbidde long and euening praier in Churches ART II. WHETHER CHVRCHES BE to be adorned SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Exod. 35. is described the wonderfull adorning of the tabernacle Churches are to be adorned made by Gods commandment and 3. Reg. 6. the most rich ornaments of the temple made by Salomon Psalme 25. v. 8. I haue loued the beautie of thy house Marc. 14. v. 15. Say to the maister of the house that the Maister saieth where is my refectorie where I may eate my Paske with my disciples And he will shew you a great chamber adorned and there prepare for vs. CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Ioan. 12. v. 3. Sumptuous dâ—cking and honorable adorning when they are done in the honour of God and for his worshippe ether in the adorning or magnifencie of Churches or in solemne administration of Sacraments doe please God PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Perkins in Problemate c. de ornatu temploruÌ„ The errour Not to be adorned of adorning temples began to be strange in Constantins time and the Fathers theÌ„ being caried away with the custome do exact the adorning of temples Caluin in Math. 26. v. 11 Let vs not deuise sumptuous worshippes of God with the Papists In Ioan. 12. v. 6. Surely God careth not for externall pompe wherefore they are preposterous interpreters who out of Christs answere do infer that costly and magnificall worshipps do please God Tigurini apud Hospin part 2. Hist fol. 24. The ornaments of Churches belonge not to the true worshippe of God Vorstius in Antibellarm p. 327. It is not onely superfluous but also vaine and superstitious and in parte ethnicall also and Iewish to make great and vnprofitable expenses in adorning Churches as euerie where vseth to be done in Poperie For that theatricall brauerie is contrarie to the simplicitie of Christian religion THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that God himselfe comcommanded the tabernacle to be adorned that Salomon by his instinct adorned the temple that Dauid loued the beautie of Gods house that Christ made choice of a great and adorned chamber wherein he should celebrate the Eucharist The same say Catholiks ProtestaÌ„ts expressely say that the adorning of Churches is an errour superfluous vaine superstitious ethnicall and Iudaicall and contrarie to Christian religion that magnificall and costlie worships please not God ART III. WHETHER IT BE LAWEFVLL to put the Images of Angels or Saintes in Churches SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Exod. 25. v. 18. God thus commandeth Two Cherubins Images in the Temple also thou shalt make of beaten gould on both sides of the Oracle And vers 22. And I will speake to thee ouer the Propitiatorie and from the middest of the two Cherubins which shal be vpon the arke of testimonie all things which I will coÌ„mand the children of Israel by thee 3. Reg. 6. vers 23. And he Salomon made in the Oracle two Cherubs of oliue trees of ten cubits in height And v. 27. And he put the Cherubs in the middest of the inner temple CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Councel of Trent Session 25. c. de Inuocat The Images of Christ and other Saintes
the coūsail of creation Gesnerus in Compend loc 30. The Scripture doth plainely testifie that God hath in earnest a will that all should be saued Affelmā de Praed § 36. The Scripture testifieth by words by oath by telling by oblation that God would haue all mē saued They teach that God doth not call al mē to him nor offer his grace to thē l. 1. c. 2. art 21. of which thus writeth Illyricus in Claue part 2. tract 4. Some by misunderstanding predestinatiō vse hurtefully to restraine the vniuersall promises and callings of the Ghospell and to make them particulars by which error of theirs they quite ouerthrow the Ghospell of Christ Gerlachius to 2. disp 15. The plaine testimonies of Scripture do proue the vniuersall will of God Hemingius in Schlus l. 1. Theol. Calu. art 11. Who denie grace to be vniuersall do corrupt the doctrine of the Ghospell oppose themselues and others The like hath Confess Saxon. c. 4. They denie that Gods wrath is appeased by good works l. 1. c. 2. art 16. And yet thus hath Confessio Aug. art 11. We confesse that by good works present calamities are aswaged as I saye teacheth c. 58. The like hath Apol. Conf. c. de resp ad Argum. Touching Christ they denie that he is God of God l. 1. Of Christ c. 3 art 1. And yet the Ministers of Poland in Zāchius epist 1. say it is Iudaisme He denieth say they with the Iews that Christ is God of God They teach that Christs humanitie is not to be inuocated or adored l. 1. c. 3. art 3. Of which thus writeth Caluin Admonit vlt. They pretend that there is no where anie precept of adoring Christs bodie Surely of Christ as man it is properly spoaken God hath exalted him and giuen him c. Wherefore Austin rightly gathereth frō hence that Christs flesh is to be adored in the person of the Mediator They teach that Christ as man is not head of the Church l. 1. c. 3. art 6. And yet thus writeth Kickerman l. 3. System p. 322. There is giuen also to the flesh of Christ for the vnion the highest power of office to be head of the Church This is that which he saieth All power is giuen to me that is full power of gouernement in the Church They teach that Christ is not iudge as he is man l. 1. c. 3. art 8. And yet Lobechius disp 19. Whence it is rightly gathered that Christ hath iudiciall power not onely by his deitie but also by his humanitie as it is euident by manifest testimonies of Scripture The like hath Caluin in Ro. 2. v. 16. They denie that Christs humanitie hath power to giue life l. 1. c. 3. art 4. Of which thus Hutter in Anal. p. 293. Who shall dare to denie that power of giuing life was giuen to Christs humanitie he doth manifestly accuse Christ who Ioan. 6. oftentimes attributeth this power to his flesh They say that Christ did not make a new testamēt l. 1. c. 3. art 9. of which point thus pronounceth Gerlachius to 2. disp 14. This is no other thing then to contradict the Apostle Et Schlusselb l. 1. Theol. art 17. The word of God teacheth that there are twoe couenants or testaments and not one and the same in substance The same saieth Illyricus praefat in nou testam They denie that Christ redeemed vs with his blood or corporall death l. 1. c. 3. art 17. Of which doctrine this censure giueth Serranus contr Hayum part 3. The Scripture affirmeth that we are purged by the blood of Christ that our sinnes are plainely expiated that God by that price paied for vs was truely appeased Calu. res ad Sadolet p. 126. Runne ouer all the Oracles of God if the onely blood of Christ be euery where proposed for the price of satisfaction for pacification for oblation with what bouldenesse darest thou c. Moulins in his Bucler p. 154. saieth that it is the summe of the Ghospell that Christs death was a full and entire satisfaction They say that Christ did not dye for those that are damned l. 1. c. 3. art 18. Of which point thus writeth Hutter in Anal. art 3. It is false which the Caluinists feigne that the sacrifice of the passion and death of Christ was not offered for all but for some onely The impietie of which doctrine all the Scripture doth greatly refute Gerlachius to 2. disput 15. They lye horribly that God the Father did apoint the satisfaction of his Sonne for some onely Against this blasphemie we oppose the most cleare words of the Scripture Polanus part 3. thes Christ died for all Ro. 5. v. 2. Cor. 5. v. 15. And Roger Art 3. putteth it as an error in faith They say that the blood of Christ wherewith we were redeemed is corrupted and now no more in being l. 1. c. 3. art 20. Which Schusselb l. 1. Theol. at 20. proueth to be contrarie to Scripture They denie that the Soule of Christ descended into hell l. 1. c. 3. art 21. Which is contrarie to Scripture as testifieth Lobechius disput 6. in these words We beleiue and embrace with simple faith as true and aggreable to Scripture and the Creeds that Christ truely descended into hell Luther in ps 16. According to the words of the Prophet the Soule of Christ in substance descended into hell They denie that Christ entred to his disciples the dores being shut l. 1. c. 3. art 23. Which is repugnant to Scripture according to Luther in def verb. cenae to 7. The testimonies saieth he of Scripture are manifest that Christ passed through the dores shut vnto his disciples And Zuinglius in Histor resur tom 4. The Euangelist Ioan doth witnesse that the dores were shut and that Iesus entred in the dores being shut They denie that Christ praieth for vs in heauen l. 1. c. 3. art 25. which is opposite to Scripture as Melancthon confesseth in resp ad art Bauar saying He is to be detested who denieth that Christ now praieth for vs sith it is plainely written to the Hebrews Alwaies liuing that he may pray for vs. Et Kemnice in Exam. part 3. c. de Inuoc saieth that it is repugnant to Scripture and depriueth Christ of a parte of his Preisthood Touching Angels and Saints They teach that the glorie Of Saintes of all Saints is equal l. 1. c. 4. art 3. which is against Scripture in the iudgement of Caluin in 1. Cor. 15. v. 41. It is most true and it is proued by the testimonies of Scripture that there be differēt degrees of honor and glorie of the Saints They denie that Angels or Saints pray for vs cap. 4. art 4. which the same Caluin auoucheth to be against Scripture In Zachar. 1. v. 12. The Scripture witnesseth that Angels suppliantly pray to God for vs Zacharie saieth that the Angel praied O Lord of hostes Apol. Conf. Aug. c. de Inuoc We graunt that Angels pray for vs. For there are
to God CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME S. Thomas 2. 2. q. 164. art 1. The soule of man is immortall beasts soules are mortall Et 1. parte q. 118. art 2. It is heresie to say that a reasonable soule is transfused with the seed PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther in Assert art 27. to 2. f. 107. I giue leaue that the Pope make articles of faith to his followers Such as are That bread and wine are transsubstantiated in the Sacrament That the soule is the substantiall forme of mans bodie That he is Emperour of the world and king of heauē and an earthlie God That the soule is immortall and all those infinit monsters in the Romish The soule is mortall dūghill of Decrees that such as his faith is such be his Ghospell such his faithfull such his Church and like lippes like lettuce and the pot may haue a fit couer And in the Margent Articles made of the Pope Zuinglius l. de Religione c. de Clauibus to 2. f. 187. But they do not so agree amongst themselues where the keyes were giuen that it is maruaile why the Pope of Rome seing he alone can iudge the Scripture as these men dreame hath not pronoūced by some lawe where they were giuen lest there should be so great dissension in a matter of so great moment or rather of profit For The soule dieth with the bodie he might easily for he hath decreed that soules do not die when the bodie dieth Vorstius in Antibellarm p. 543. There wāt not some among Infants perish like beasts Christiās who thinke that ether all Infants or some are quite extinguished by death as beasts are And he himselfe insinuateth that mans soule is not a pure spirit as appeareth by words cited in an other place Caluin in Explic. perfidiae Gentilis p. 677. Some Protestants did say that there is no shorter way to abolish the protection of Saintes superstitious praier for the dead the inuention of Purgatorie and such like then if we would beleiue death to be the destruction of the soule Soules perish Brentius homilia 35. in c. 20. Lucae apud Reginaldum l. 4. Caluinoturcismi cap. 5. Albeit there be no publike profession among vs that the soule perisheth with the bodie and that there is no resurrection of the dead yet that most vncleane and most profane life which the greatest parte of men follow clearely sheweth that in their mynd they thinke that there is no life after this life or at least that they doubt of the life to come No life after this Men are begotten euen according to the soule Besides they teach that mans soule is transfused with the seede Bergenses apud Hospin in Concordia discordi f. 104. Write that a mā is naturally begotten of his father and mother both according to bodie and soule Luther disput 2. to 2. fol. 500. Who shall thinke that the soule is by transfusion seemeth not to thinke amisse from the Scripture Et fol. 501. That is nothing which is saied A reasonable soule is infused whilest it is created and created it is infused Et Vorstius in Antibellarm p. 530. Luther thought that the soule was by transfusion Hutterus in Analysi Confess Augustanae art 2. p. 157. We Our Soules are not created but transfused resolue that that opinion seemeth more probable to vs which thinketh that soules are not infused of God but are propagated from parents to children by transfusion Peucerus apud Schlusselburg l. 2. Theol. Caluin art 6. I conclude that soules rise by transfusion Schlusselburg to 2. Catal. Haeret. p. 195. It appeareth sufficiently in the writings of Luther and Melancthon that they incline to this opinion which saieth that soules are by transfusion and they shew great arguments out of the Scripture Reineccius to 3. Armaturae cap. 6. We gather that soules are together with the bodies propagated from the parents into the children and not made of the seed as out of matter but of the soule of the parents as one candle is lightned of an other and that as the bodie so the soule is in the seed not actually but in power which being dead is raised vp by Gods gouernment But to teach that mans soules is by transfusion is in effect The Soule being dead it raised and deed to say it is mortall as the Protestants themselues confesse Pareus l. 4. de Amiss Grat. c. 11. Whether we say that soules are sowed with the bodies or immediatly transfused out of other soules as one light is kindled of an other we cannot defend the immortalitie of the soule any more Beza in Rom. 5. v. 12. Which opinion can no way be mantained but that the substance of mans soule must be diuisible and consequently corruptible Moreouer they teach that mans soule after his death sleepeth and feeleth nothing Luther in 2. Ionae to 4. f. 417. Scripture teacheth that the dead sleepe I thinke that they are so drowned with a meruailous The Soules sleepe and feele nothing and vnspeakable sleepe as they feele or see lesse then they that otherwise sleepe and when they shal be raised they shall not know where they haue beene or how they were sodainlie borne a new Ib. in c. 9. Eccles f. 36. Salomon seemeth to thinke that the dead sleepe so as they know nothing at all He described the dead like to sensles carcases Et f. 37. An other place that the dead feele nothing Salomon thought that the dead did wholy sleepe and feele nothing at all In cap. 25. Gen. to 6 f. 722. There is a great difference betwene the Saintes sleeping and Christ raigning they sleepe and know not what is done Caluin in Psychopanychia p. 388. I know manie good men into whose mynd some thing was instilled of this sleepe of the soules ether through to much readinesse to beleiue or through ignorance of Scriptures whereby they were not sufficiently instructed at the time for to resist whome I would not offend if I may Sleidan l. 9. Histor Luther teacheth out of Scripture that the soules of the dead do rest and expect the latter day of iudgment and he addeth that out of this Luther ouerthrew purgatorie But to teach that the soules haue no feeling is as much as to say that they are perished according to the verdict of the Protestants themselues For thus Beza epistola 82. To depriue the soule of motion and sense is alone as to kill the soule The same saieth Caluin lib. cit p. 391. Daneus Contr. 2. p. 160. Zuinglius in Exposit fidei tom 2. fol. 559. and in elencho fol. 37. Castalio also apud Bezam de puniendis Haereticis whose learning and honestie D. Humfrey ad Ration 1. Campiani saieth he well knew writeth thus Men dispute of the Trinitie of Predestination of free will of God of Angels of the state of soules after this life and of other such matters which nether are so necessarie to obtaine saluation by faith because without knowledge of
them publicans and harlots haue beene saued nether if they be knowne make they a man better Finally they vse to vnderstand the Saintes departed this life by this terme The dead For so doth the Apologie of the Confession of Auspurg c. de Inuocat Sanctorum The confession of Saxonie c. 21. Melancthon in locis c. de Sacramentis c. de Caeremonijs c. de scandalo c. de libertate Whitaker l. 9. cont Dureum sect 36. Wherevpon Kemnitius 3. parte Examinis p. 228. saieth that the Saintes departed are vsually termed The dead CONFERENCE OF THE FORESAIED WORDS Scripture expressely saieth that the soule cannot be killed and that it returneth to God The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that the soule dieth that it is a Popes decree that the soule dieth not that it is a monstruous thing to say that it is immortall they adde also that it is by transfusion that after death it feeleth nothing that all or most infantes perish as beasts that the knowledge of the state of soules after this death is not necessarie to saluation nor maketh a man the better ART II. WHETHER MANS SOVLE BE the forme of his bodie SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Gen. 2. v. 7. Our Lord God formed man of the styme of the Soule forme of the bodie earth and breathed into his face the breath of life and man became a liuing soule CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME S. Thomas 1. parte q. 76. art 4. A reasonable soule is vnited to the bodie as a substantiall forme PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther cited in the former article I giue leaue that the Not substantiall forme of the bodie Pope make articles of faith to his followers Such are That the soule is a substantiall forme of the bodie In psal 22. to 3. f. 348. It is not determined according to the spirit of trueth nor according So also Farellus to the authoritie of Scriptures but by the Popes reed according to vaine traditions of men That the essence of God is nether generated nor generateth That the soule is a substantiall forme of the bodie That bread and wine are trāssubstantiated on the altar that one kinde is to be giuen to lay men for the whole Sacrament and like monsters Polanus in Sylloge Thesium parte 2. p. 518. Mans soule is No forme of the bodie no forme of the bodie against Bellarmin Bucanus Instit loco 8. p. 89. The soule is in one onely mēber Not in euerie member of the bodie and place of the bodie THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saith that the soule was infused of God into man and that by it he was made a liuing creature The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that mans soule is no forme of the bodie that it is monstrous to say that it is the forme of the bodie that it is in one onely parte and place of the bodie and not in the whole bodie ART III. WHETHER THERE BE ANIE resurrection of the dead SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. 1. Cor. 15. v. 16. For if the dead rise not againe nether is Christ The dead shall rise risen againe And if Christ be not risen againe vaine is your faith 1. Thessalon 4. v. 14. For if we beleiue that Iesus died and rose againe so also God them that haue slept by Iesus will bring with him And the same is most plainely taught in innumerable places CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Catechismus ad Parochos in Exposit Symboli As we beleiue that manie haue beene raised from death so we must beleiue that all shal be raised to life PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther l. de seruo arbit to 2. fol. 442. Behould experience what the most excellent witts amongst the Gentils thought of the life to come and the resurrection How much more excellent they were of wit did they not the more thinke the life to come and resurrection to be ridiculous Finally to this day the most Luther not free from denying the resurrection of the dead by how much they are of greater wit and learning do they not the more laughe at that article and accoūt it afable and that opēly And I would to God thoum y Erasmus and I were free from this leauen So rare is there anie faithfull soule touching this article Brentius apud Reginaldum cited in the first article Yea such wordes fall from diuers Protestants by which they signifie No resurrection of the dead that they beleiue not the resurrection of the dead as well when there are drunken as when they are sober in their familiar talkes Vorstius in Apologetica resp ad Homium p. 41. writeth thus Let them see who will enquire these things more curiously what amongst our men Caluin himselfe sometimes thought of this matter in his epistles p. 85. Where Farellus plainely enough Caluin denied the resurrection of the flesh telleth that he not onely doubted of the resurrection of this flesh but thought plaine contrarie from others at that time And neuerthelesse none accursed him therefore of heresie Yea among the Lutherans Iames Schegkius in Antisimonic sect 9. p. 420. Schegkius denied the resurrection of these bodies Openly denied that the same bodies should rise hereafter And yet he was curteously excused of his parteners and it no where appeareth that he was for that condemned of heresie ether of his owne men or of ours Caluin Epistola 104. thus writeth to Laelius Sozinus Sozinus denied the resurrection of the flesh whome Camerarius in vita Melancthonis much commendeth I see that you are not satisfied about the resurrection of the flesh Farellus who was the first Minister of Geneua and whome Caluin and Beza highly cōmend and his picture is put amongst the worthies of the new reformers denied the resurrection of this flesh For thus writeth Caluin to him as reporteth M. Reinalds in Caluinoturcismo l. 3. c. 22. It is no meruaile that the resurrection of this flesh seemeth a Nether Caluin maruaileth at it thing incredible to thee Thou thinkes it sufficeth if thou beleiuest that sometime we shall haue new bodies Behould the first Apostle of Geneua thought the resurrection of this flesh a thing incredible nether that seemed anie meruaill to his Coapostle Caluin Besides all they who as we rehearsed cap. 3. artic 20. denie that Christs blood rose againe denie that there was a perfect resurrection of Christ of whome his blood was a parte and consequently they must denie that the blood of other men shal rise againe and so there shall not be a perfect resurrection of men Moreouer Caluin in 4 c. 1. § 27. saieth that those Corinthians who denied the resurrection were not excluded from Gods mercie Sadeel and Theses Posnan c. 12. pag. 806. Protestants account deniers of the resurrection to be members of the Church and children of God and faithfull that they kept the name of a true Chruch which also saieth Riuet tract 1. sect 39. Beza 2 parte respons ad Acta Montisbel pa. 253.