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A65699 A discourse concerning the idolatry of the Church of Rome wherein that charge is justified, and the pretended refutation of Dr. Stillingfleet's discourse is answered / by Daniel Whitby ... Whitby, Daniel, 1638-1726.; Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. 1674 (1674) Wing W1722; ESTC R34745 260,055 369

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converse_v with_o god_n 318._o god_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d bosil_n tom._n 1._o orat._n in_o jusiti_n martyr_n p._n 318._o prayer_n be_v a_o request_n of_o some_o good_a thing_n which_o be_v make_v by_o pious_a man_n to_o god_n say_v basil_n whence_o elsewhere_o he_o assert_n that_o prayer_n be_v not_o direct_v unto_o man_n but_o god_n 30._o god_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d greg._n nyss_n de_fw-fr orat._n dom._n or_o 2._o p._n 724._o d._n chrysost_o in_o gen._n hom._n 30._o prayer_n be_v a_o conference_n with_o god_n say_v nyssen_n and_o a_o request_n of_o good_a thing_n which_o be_v offer_v with_o supplication_n unto_o god_n prayer_n be_v a_o colloquy_n with_o god_n and_o every_o one_o that_o pray_v discourse_v with_o god_n so_o st._n 139._o st._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d chrysost_n tom._n 4._o p._n 139._o chrysostome_n hence_o on_o that_o expression_n of_o st._n paul_n with_o all_o that_o call_v upon_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n he_o note_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o st._n paul_n do_v not_o say_v that_o call_v on_o this_o or_o that_o i.e._n of_o any_o thing_n but_o christ_n and_o on_o these_o word_n do_v all_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n he_o comment_v thus_o i.e._n do_v all_o thing_n pray_v unto_o he_o for_o help_v and_o before_o all_o thy_o business_n make_v thy_o supplication_n to_o he_o or_o he_o say_v thus_o say_v and_o do_v all_o thing_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o or_o according_a to_o god_n and_o introduce_v not_o angel_n but_o t._n g._n have_v some_o argument_n to_o prove_v that_o saint_n and_o angel_n have_v the_o knowledge_n of_o our_o heart_n and_o action_n viz._n it_o be_v say_v luke_n 15.7_o 419._o object_n t._n g._n p._n 419._o there_o shall_v be_v joy_n in_o heaven_n and_o v._o 10._o there_o shall_v be_v joy_n before_o the_o angel_n of_o god_n upon_o one_o sinner_n that_o do_v penance_n and_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n no_o doubt_n rejoice_v as_o much_o at_o the_o conversion_n of_o a_o sinner_n 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vision_n we_o must_v be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n by_o our_o compliance_n with_o this_o practice_n 3._o that_o this_o be_v the_o concurrent_a judgement_n of_o the_o father_n and_o that_o they_o judge_v all_o supplication_n to_o invisible_a and_o absent_a being_n to_o attribute_n god_n worship_n to_o they_o may_v be_v evince_v from_o two_o consideration_n 1._o that_o they_o look_v upon_o it_o not_o only_o as_o a_o sacrifice_n but_o as_o the_o best_a and_o great_a sacrifice_n by_o prayer_n we_o honour_v god_n say_v clemens_n b._n strom._n l._n 7._o p._n 717._o a._n apol._n c._n 30._o p._n 27._o b._n and_o send_v up_o to_o he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o best_a and_o the_o most_o holy_a sacrifice_n i_o offer_v to_o he_o a_o fat_a and_o a_o better_a sacrifice_n than_o he_o himself_o enjoin_v viz._n prayer_n issue_v from_o a_o chaste_a body_n a_o unspotted_a soul_n and_o inspire_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n so_o tertullian_n and_o this_o be_v very_o st._n augustine_n judgement_n 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sect._n 2._o the_o idolatry_n of_o this_o practice_n prove_v 1._o because_o it_o do_v ascribe_v unto_o they_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o of_o our_o confession_n 2._o because_o prayer_n to_o a_o absent_a be_v be_v the_o oblation_n of_o that_o worship_n to_o it_o which_o be_v proper_a to_o god_n and_o so_o be_v vow_n and_o hymn_n sect._n 3.3_o because_o the_o apostle_n give_v we_o no_o precept_n or_o example_n so_o to_o do_v sect._n 4._o the_o sequel_n of_o this_o argument_n be_v confirm_v and_o the_o objection_n answer_v sect._n 5._o and_o the_o argument_n from_o miracle_n confute_v sect._n 6._o have_v lay_v down_o these_o proposition_n let_v we_o now_o view_v the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o the_o trent_n council_n have_v deliver_v in_o these_o word_n viz._n 1._o viz._n mandate_n sancta_fw-la synodus_fw-la omnibus_fw-la episcopis_fw-la &_o clerieis_fw-la docendi_fw-la munuscurámque_fw-la sustinentibus_fw-la ut_fw-la fideles_fw-la 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traditur_fw-la nullam_fw-la creaturam_fw-la colendam_fw-la esse_fw-la animae_fw-la libentius_fw-la enim_fw-la liquour_n his_fw-la verbis_fw-la quibus_fw-la mihi_fw-la haec_fw-la insinu●ta_fw-la sunt_fw-la sed_fw-la ipsum_fw-la tantummodo_fw-la rerum_fw-la quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la omnium_fw-la creatorem_fw-la august_n l._n de_fw-fr quant_fw-fr animae_fw-la p._n 34._o in_o the_o catholic_n church_n it_o be_v divine_o and_o singular_o deliver_v that_o we_o creature_n be_v to_o be_v worship_v by_o the_o soul_n but_o he_o only_o who_o be_v the_o creator_n of_o all_o thing_n but_o roman_a catholic_n do_v and_o upon_o supposition_n that_o they_o have_v the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o do_v by_o see_v god_n 418._o p._n 418._o perceive_v the_o secret_n of_o it_o and_o as_o t._n g._n assert_n do_v know_v both_o our_o necessity_n and_o prayer_n concern_v and_o action_n i_o say_v upon_o this_o supposition_n they_o ought_v to_o worship_v saint_n and_o angel_n not_o only_o with_o the_o body_n 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thing_n that_o may_v convenient_o be_v adore_v we_o venerate_v all_o that_o call_v for_o veneration_n for_o hold_v to_o the_o head_n from_o whence_o these_o divi_z borrow_v their_o divinity_n we_o think_v it_o needless_a to_o go_v to_o every_o person_n see_v we_o know_v not_o what_o they_o be_v what_o name_v they_o have_v or_o of_o what_o order_n they_o may_v be_v and_o as_o in_o honour_v the_o king_n we_o honour_v all_o that_o do_v belong_v unto_o he_o so_o what_o ever_o god_n you_o do_v propose_v unto_o we_o if_o they_o be_v of_o this_o kingly_a progeny_n and_o do_v belong_v unto_o this_o head_n although_o they_o do_v receive_v no_o worship_n from_o we_o they_o understand_v that_o they_o be_v worship_v together_o with_o their_o king_n and_o be_v include_v in_o that_o veneration_n which_o we_o pay_v to_o he_o 4._o this_o answer_n render_v the_o discourse_n of_o origen_n impertinent_a and_o a_o perfect_a declination_n of_o the_o question_n betwixt_o he_o and_o celsus_n for_o celsus_n 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must_v not_o worship_n and_o adore_v as_o god_n you_o must_v not_o pray_v unto_o but_o angel_n you_o must_v not_o worship_n and_o adore_v as_o god_n ergo_fw-la angel_n you_o must_v not_o pray_v unto_o this_o be_v that_o father_n plea_n to_o which_o t._n g._n may_v answer_v in_o behalf_n of_o celsus_n as_o well_o as_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o he_o apparent_o distinguish_v those_o angel_n both_o from_o god_n and_o from_o the_o son_n of_o god_n and_o therefore_o do_v not_o contend_v that_o we_o shall_v pray_v unto_o they_o as_o to_o that_o god_n who_o be_v the_o author_n of_o all_o good_a but_o only_o as_o to_o the_o minister_n and_o servant_n of_o god_n who_o he_o appoint_v to_o preside_v over_o such_o person_n family_n and_o country_n and_o therefore_o he_o be_v content_v only_o that_o it_o may_v be_v lawful_a to_o say_v unto_o they_o as_o do_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o st._n sebastian_n cerne_n familiam_fw-la tuam_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la behold_v thy_o family_n and_o to_o st._n gabriel_n preserve_v thy_o country_n 2._o 〈◊〉_d 2._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d celsus_n object_n that_o if_o with_o god_n we_o do_v adore_v his_o son_n then_o may_v we_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d venerate_v his_o minister_n to_o this_o st._n origen_n reply_v that_o if_o 386._o if_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d orig._n contra_fw-la celsum_fw-la lib._n 8._o p._n 386._o celsus_n by_o the_o minister_n of_o god_n have_v understand_v gabriel_n and_o michael_n and_o other_o angel_n and_o archangel_n and_o have_v contend_v that_o they_o shall_v be_v venerate_v perpaps_o by_o purify_n of_o the_o word_n and_o of_o the_o action_n of_o the_o venerator_n we_o may_v say_v something_o of_o that_o matter_n i.e._n perhaps_o some_o action_n which_o in_o some_o sense_n may_v bear_v the_o name_n of_o veneration_n may_v be_v perform_v to_o those_o angel_n this_o t._n g._n think_v a_o great_a advantage_n to_o his_o cause_n and_o wonder_n that_o the_o doctor_n will_v produce_v this_o passage_n but_o i_o conceive_v it_o be_v the_o clear_a confutation_n of_o it_o that_o we_o can_v desire_v for_o have_v grant_v this_o and_o then_o restrain_v our_o petition_n unto_o god_n the_o father_n and_o his_o son_n jesus_n christ_n as_o he_o express_o do_v he_o most_o apparent_o demonstrate_v that_o prayer_n can_v be_v no_o part_n of_o the_o forementioned_a service_n he_o allow_v to_o saint_n 2._o in_o that_o he_o thus_o distinguish_v of_o veneration_n and_o never_o do_v distinguish_v in_o the_o like_a manner_n of_o prayer_n and_o supplication_n or_o of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id_fw-la est_fw-la of_o adoration_n and_o worship_n it_o follow_v that_o although_o he_o think_v some_o veneration_n may_v be_v allow_v to_o angel_n in_o some_o inferior_a kind_n yet_o no_o petition_n be_v to_o be_v put_v up_o unto_o they_o and_o that_o no_o worship_n and_o adoration_n shall_v be_v give_v unto_o they_o 3._o when_o origen_n in_o answer_n to_o this_o passage_n say_v ibid._n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id._n ibid._n we_o christian_n venerate_a with_o supplication_n only_a god_n and_o his_o son_n jesus_n christ_n and_o put_v up_o our_o petition_n to_o god_n by_o his_o only_a son_n if_o he_o do_v understand_v only_o such_o supplication_n as_o be_v make_v to_o he_o as_o to_o the_o author_n of_o all_o good_a he_o be_v as_o vain_a and_o impertinent_a as_o t._n g._n in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o dr._n for_o celsus_n only_o do_v contend_v for_o such_o a_o worship_n and_o consequent_o for_o such_o address_n only_o as_o agree_v unto_o the_o minister_n and_o servant_n of_o god_n 4._o origen_n plain_o do_v inform_v we_o that_o the_o veneration_n he_o allow_v to_o angel_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 416._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d id._n l._n 8._o p._n 416._o to_o speak_v well_o of_o they_o and_o pronounce_v they_o bless_v and_o imitate_v to_o their_o virtue_n and_o what_o be_v this_o to_o supplication_n 3._o celsus_n object_n that_o daemon_n do_v belong_v to_o god_n and_o therefore_o must_v be_v pray_v unto_o and_o
4._o that_o the_o angel_n do_v offer_v up_o the_o prayer_n of_o man_n to_o god_n and_o sure_o it_o can_v never_o be_v idolatry_n to_o desire_v they_o to_o do_v what_o they_o do_v answ_n the_o minister_n pray_v for_o his_o parish_n and_o yet_o shall_v every_o parishioner_n in_o his_o private_a closet_n desire_v he_o to_o pray_v for_o they_o shall_v they_o put_v up_o mental_a prayer_n unto_o he_o and_o so_o ascribe_v unto_o he_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o of_o the_o desire_n of_o man_n absent_a from_o he_o they_o will_v make_v a_o idol_n of_o he_o thus_o albeit_o the_o angel_n be_v present_a in_o the_o assembly_n of_o saint_n and_o offer_v up_o the_o prayer_n they_o hear_v yet_o to_o invoke_v they_o when_o absent_a and_o with_o mental_a prayer_n may_v due_o be_v esteem_v idolatry_n 2._o t._n g._n inform_v we_o ibid._n ibid._n that_o origen_n in_o his_o first_o homily_n upon_o ezekiel_n invocate_v a_o angel_n in_o these_o word_n e._n word_n veni_fw-la angelo_n suscipe_fw-la sermone_fw-la conversum_fw-la ab_fw-la errore_fw-la pristino_fw-la a_o doctrina_fw-la daemoniorum_fw-la ab_fw-la iniquitate_fw-la in_o altum_fw-la loquente_fw-la &_o suscipiens_fw-la eum_fw-la quasi_fw-la medice_fw-la bone_fw-la confove_n atque_fw-la institue_a parvulus_fw-la est_fw-la hodie_fw-la nascitur_fw-la senex_fw-la repuerascens_fw-la &_o suscipe_fw-la tribuens_fw-la ei_fw-la baptismum_fw-la secundae_fw-la regenerationis_fw-la ●_o 133._o e._n come_v holy_a angel_n and_o receive_v he_o who_o be_v convert_v from_o his_o former_a sin_n answer_n 1._o we_o have_v just_a reason_n to_o suspect_v this_o place_n be_v a_o addition_n to_o the_o work_n of_o origen_n 1._o because_o it_o contradict_v his_o constant_a plain_a opinion_n deliver_v so_o often_o and_o so_o industrious_o confirm_v in_o his_o reply_n to_o celsus_n it_o also_o contradict_v the_o practice_n of_o church_n then_o be_v as_o origen_n himself_o declare_v 2._o he_o speak_v thus_o to_o the_o angel_n receive_v he_o and_o confer_v upon_o he_o the_o baptism_n of_o the_o second_o regeneration_n now_o who_o ever_o hear_v of_o any_o baptise_a by_o a_o angel_n who_o ever_o hear_v so_o uncouth_a and_o absurd_a a_o phrase_n as_o be_v the_o baptism_n of_o second_o regeneration_n these_o therefore_o can_v be_v the_o word_n of_o learned_a origen_n as_o all_o that_o know_v he_o must_v confess_v beside_o this_o speech_n can_v be_v apply_v to_o none_o but_o origen_n himself_o and_o if_o it_o have_v any_o sense_n 123._o a._n d._n 153._o ●_o 121_o 122_o 123._o it_o seem_v plain_o to_o refer_v to_o his_o repentance_n after_o his_o lapse_n into_o idolatry_n which_o haply_o be_v style_v the_o baptism_n of_o a_o second_o regeneration_n since_o then_o that_o story_n be_v confute_v by_o baronius_n it_o follow_v that_o this_o passage_n which_o refer_v unto_o it_o must_v be_v also_o false_a 3._o be_v it_o grant_v that_o those_o be_v the_o true_a word_n of_o origen_n they_o contain_v only_o a_o apostrophe_n such_o as_o be_v that_o of_o austin_n to_o st._n chrysostome_n enter_v st._n john_n sit_v with_o thy_o brethren_n and_o other_o mention_v c._n 9_o or_o 2._o if_o i_o shall_v grant_v they_o to_o contain_v a_o formal_a prayer_n it_o be_v direct_v only_o to_o a_o angel_n who_o he_o conceive_v to_o be_v present_a and_o it_o be_v only_o a_o vocal_a prayer_n for_o origen_n conceive_v not_o only_o that_o every_o person_n but_o also_o every_o church_n have_v a_o luc_fw-fr a_o ego_fw-la non_fw-la ambigo_fw-la &_o in_fw-la caetu_fw-la nostro_fw-la adesse_fw-la angelos_n non_fw-la solum_fw-la geperaliter_fw-la omni_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la figillatim_fw-la hom._n 23._o in_o luc_fw-fr particular_a angel_n that_o preside_v over_o it_o and_o so_o be_v present_a there_o and_o therefore_o this_o example_n be_v not_o pertin_n ent_a to_o prove_v what_o we_o deny_v viz._n that_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o pray_v unto_o they_o when_o we_o have_v no_o assurance_n of_o their_o presence_n or_o with_o mental_a prayer_n the_o conclusion_n show_v 1._o that_o what_o t._n g._n allege_v to_o prove_v the_o dr._n guilty_a of_o false_a and_o disingenuous_a citation_n be_v most_o unconscionable_o false_a 2._o that_o t._n g._n be_v notorious_o guilty_a of_o false_a and_o disingenuous_a citation_n 3._o that_o he_o very_a falsty_n represent_v the_o question_n touch_v the_o invocation_n of_o the_o saint_n depart_v 4._o that_o t._n g._n be_v a_o man_n of_o wit_n but_o in_o his_o book_n he_o have_v not_o in_o the_o least_o discover_v himself_o to_o be_v a_o man_n of_o learning_n or_o of_o judgement_n but_o give_v we_o just_a reason_n to_o suspect_v his_o want_n of_o both_o we_o be_v inform_v by_o the_o incomparable_a dalle_n 43._o §_o 1._o de_fw-fr usu_fw-la patrum_fw-la cap._n 3._o p._n 43._o that_o it_o be_v a_o thesis_n public_o propose_v and_o defend_v by_o the_o college_n of_o louvain_n that_o it_o be_v no_o mortal_a sin_n to_o elude_v a_o great_a authority_n that_o be_v detract_n from_o or_o noxious_a to_o we_o with_o a_o lie_n and_o that_o the_o jansenist_n do_v frequent_o object_v against_o the_o jesuit_n the_o same_o ungodly_a tenet_n that_o this_o have_v be_v the_o constant_a practice_n of_o t._n g._n and_o that_o he_o owe_v the_o glory_n of_o his_o book_n to_o his_o exact_a conformity_n to_o this_o acursed_a doctrine_n i_o have_v demonstrate_v already_o from_o many_o instance_n so_o clear_a that_o nothing_o can_v admit_v of_o great_a evidence_n before_o i_o enter_v into_o a_o far_a demonstration_n of_o this_o charge_n i_o must_v assure_v the_o christian_a reader_n that_o from_o my_o heart_n i_o wish_v that_o i_o have_v nothing_o of_o this_o nature_n to_o object_n against_o t._n g._n and_o i_o do_v think_v myself_o unhappy_a that_o i_o have_v to_o deal_v with_o one_o who_o by_o so_o base_a a_o prostitution_n of_o his_o conscience_n do_v seek_v advantage_n to_o his_o cause_n indeed_o the_o subject_n be_v so_o unpleasant_a and_o unwelcome_a to_o i_o that_o i_o will_v certain_o have_v whole_o wave_v it_o have_v not_o my_o duty_n to_o my_o brother_n and_o the_o disadvantage_n which_o the_o truth_n may_v suffer_v from_o these_o art_n oblige_v i_o to_o proceed_v in_o this_o discovery_n which_o both_o in_o pity_n to_o myself_o and_o to_o my_o adversary_n i_o shall_v confine_v to_o the_o consideration_n of_o what_o he_o have_v deliver_v part_n the_o three_o that_o so_o my_o labour_n and_o his_o gild_n may_v be_v the_o less_o this_o be_v thus_o premise_v the_o truth_n of_o what_o i_o charge_v he_o with_o shall_v be_v make_v good_a 1._o by_o consideration_n of_o what_o he_o offer_v to_o crack_v the_o credit_n of_o the_o dr._n and_o cast_v a_o disrepute_n on_o his_o incomparable_a labour_n and_o 2._o from_o divers_a instance_n of_o his_o endeavour_n by_o the_o forementioned_a art_n to_o weaken_v the_o authority_n produce_v against_o he_o and_o first_o 2._o §._o 2._o the_o dr._n be_v very_o often_o but_o most_o unjust_o charge_v with_o false_a 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and_o upon_o that_o canon_n of_o laodicea_n which_o forbid_v christian_n to_o worship_n angel_n he_o subjoin_v these_o word_n no_o wonder_n that_o baronius_n be_v so_o much_o displease_v with_o theodoret_n for_o this_o interpretation_n 155._o p._n 155._o for_o he_o very_o fair_o tell_v what_o he_o condemn_v and_o st._n paul_n too_o be_v the_o practice_n of_o their_o church_n and_o those_o oratory_n be_v set_v up_o by_o catholic_n and_o not_o by_o heretic_n this_o be_v foul_a deal_n say_v t._n g._n and_o these_o be_v pitiful_a slight_n of_o sophistry_n to_o delude_v a_o unwary_a reader_n 380._o p._n 380._o and_o he_o shall_v wonder_v if_o the_o dr._n find_v any_o one_o that_o will_v believe_v he_o 383._o p._n 383._o so_o that_o what_o dr._n stillingfleet_n have_v here_o deliver_v must_v be_v incredible_a foul_a deal_n or_o else_o t._n g._n must_v certain_o be_v guilty_a of_o much_o disingenuity_n and_o falsehood_n in_o this_o
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deo_fw-la facta_fw-la per_fw-la hoc_fw-la quod_fw-la additum_fw-la est_fw-la deo_fw-la facta_fw-la distinguitur_fw-la votum_fw-la ●_o promissione_n quae_fw-la fit_a homini_fw-la estius_n in_o scent_n l._n 4._o do_v 38._o §._o 1._o p._n 206.207_o definition_n of_o a_o vow_n and_o tell_v we_o that_o it_o be_v a_o ibid._n a_o votum_fw-la est_fw-la quaedam_fw-la promissio_fw-la deo_fw-la facta_fw-la ibid._n promise_n make_v to_o god_n and_o that_o it_o id_fw-la it_o votum_fw-la soli_fw-la deo_fw-la fit_a sed_fw-la promissio_fw-la etiam_fw-la potest_fw-la fieri_fw-la homini_fw-la id_fw-la only_o differ_v from_o a_o promise_n make_v to_o man_n in_o this_o respect_n that_o it_o be_v make_v to_o god_n it_o be_v confess_v by_o bellarmine_n that_o in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n we_o have_v no_o instance_n of_o a_o vow_n that_o be_v not_o make_v to_o god_n alone_o aquinas_n ibid._n aquinas_n ibid._n prove_v a_o vow_n to_o be_v the_o worship_n of_o latria_n because_o the_o prophet_n 19.21_o 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understand_v what_o we_o vow_v and_o be_v acquaint_v with_o the_o inward_a motion_n of_o the_o soul_n which_o only_o god_n who_o be_v the_o searcher_n of_o the_o heart_n do_v know_v beside_o the_o romanist_n do_v often_o vow_v that_o his_o 420._o his_o i_o humble_o beg_v of_o thou_o oh_o mother_n of_o all_o clemency_n that_o thou_o will_v vouchsafe_v to_o admit_v i_o into_o the_o number_n of_o those_o who_o have_v devote_v themselves_o to_o thou_o to_o be_v thy_o perpetual_a servant_n reflect_v on_o the_o devotion_n of_o the_o romish_a church_n p._n 420._o whole_a life_n shall_v be_v devote_v to_o the_o bless_a virgin_n or_o some_o other_o saint_n now_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o st._n austin_n thus_o to_o 1._o to_o ut_fw-la sacra_fw-la faciemus_fw-la &_o sacrificemus_fw-la vel_fw-la aliqua_fw-la nostra_fw-la sive_fw-la nos_fw-la ipsos_fw-la religionis_fw-la ritubus_fw-la consecremus_fw-la hic_fw-la est_fw-la divinitati_fw-la vel_fw-la si_fw-la expressuis_fw-la dicendum_fw-la est_fw-la deitati_fw-la debitus_fw-la cultus_fw-la aug._n the_o civ_o dei_fw-la l._n 10._o c._n 1._o consecrate_v ourselves_o by_o a_o religious_a rite_n to_o any_o thing_n be_v to_o perform_v unto_o it_o the_o worship_n proper_a to_o a_o deity_n prayer_n offer_v and_o put_v up_o in_o any_o time_n and_o place_n to_o a_o invisible_a 7._o cor._n 3._o §._o 7._o and_o not_o corporeal_o present_v be_v be_v the_o oblation_n of_o that_o worship_n to_o it_o which_o be_v due_a to_o god_n for_o this_o before_o the_o superstition_n of_o the_o romish_a church_n prevail_v be_v always_o use_v as_o a_o indication_n of_o divinity_n and_o a_o thing_n proper_a to_o the_o deity_n thus_o dio_n tell_v we_o that_o caligula_n be_v worship_v as_o a_o god_n because_o they_o offer_v to_o he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d prayer_n and_o supplication_n the_o consecration_n of_o a_o image_n be_v deem_v by_o some_o heathen_n to_o fix_v within_o it_o some_o invisible_a and_o powerful_a be_v and_o then_o by_o supplication_n to_o the_o consecrate_a image_n it_o be_v make_v a_o god_n according_a unto_o that_o of_o martial_a qui_fw-la fingit_fw-la sacros_fw-la auro_fw-la vel_fw-la marmore_fw-la vultus_fw-la non_fw-la facit_fw-la ille_fw-la deos_fw-la 24_o l._n 8._o ep._n 24_o qui_fw-la rogat_fw-la ille_fw-la facit_fw-la it_o be_v not_o the_o carve_a gold_n or_o marble_n stone_n that_o make_v the_o god_n but_o supplication_n it_o be_v adorn_v say_v 11.2_o say_v ecce_fw-la ornatur_fw-la consecratur_fw-la oratur_fw-la tum_fw-la postremo_fw-la deus_fw-la est_fw-la p._n 26._o luk._n 11.2_o minutius_n and_o consecrate_v and_o last_o it_o be_v pray_v unto_o and_o then_o it_o be_v a_o god_n this_o may_v be_v far_o prove_v from_o scripture_n reason_n and_o authority_n from_o scripture_n thus_o he_o only_o ought_v to_o be_v the_o object_n of_o our_o prayer_n who_o be_v our_o heavenly_a father_n for_o thus_o the_o precept_n run_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d when_o or_o as_o often_o as_o you_o pray_v say_v our_o father_n etc._n etc._n which_o precept_n must_v not_o be_v suppose_v to_o enjoin_v all_o christian_n to_o use_v these_o word_n whensoever_o they_o do_v pray_v for_o we_o do_v never_o find_v in_o any_o of_o the_o prayer_n which_o the_o apostle_n make_v that_o they_o do_v so_o it_o therefore_o do_v enjoin_v we_o when_o we_o pray_v for_o any_o thing_n which_o in_o this_o prayer_n be_v mention_v or_o contain_v to_o pray_v unto_o our_o heavenly_a father_n for_o it_o 2._o obs_n this_o form_n of_o prayer_n must_v be_v suppose_v to_o contain_v all_o thing_n which_o be_v the_o matter_n of_o a_o true_a and_o grateful_a prayer_n according_a unto_o that_o of_o austin_n 12._o austin_n dicendum_fw-la quod_fw-la oratio_fw-la dominica_n perfectissima_fw-la est_fw-la quia_fw-la sicut_fw-la angustinus_n dicit_fw-la ad_fw-la probum_fw-la si_fw-la rectè_fw-la &_o congruenenter_fw-la oramus_fw-la nihil_fw-la aliud_fw-la dicere_fw-la possumus_fw-la quam_fw-la quod_fw-la in_o ista_fw-la oratione_fw-la dominica_n positum_fw-la est_fw-la aquinas_n 2_o 2a_fw-la q._n 83._o art_n 8._o ep._n 121._o
c._n 12._o run_v through_o all_o the_o word_n of_o holy_a prayer_n and_o you_o will_v be_v able_a to_o find_v nothing_o which_o be_v not_o include_v in_o the_o lord_n prayer_n in_o this_o both_o protestant_n and_o roman_a catholic_n agree_v hence_o therefore_o i_o assume_v if_o when_o we_o pray_v for_o any_o thing_n contain_v in_o this_o prayer_n we_o be_v enjoin_v to_o pray_v to_o god_n than_o all_o our_o acceptable_a prayer_n must_v be_v direct_v to_o he_o and_o whensoever_o we_o do_v pray_v for_o any_o blessing_n we_o must_v call_v upon_o he_o beside_o our_o father_n do_v belong_v to_o every_o petition_n no_o other_o person_n be_v mention_v in_o this_o prayer_n so_o that_o the_o sense_n run_v thus_o our_o father_n etc._n etc._n let_v thy_o kingdom_n come_v our_o father_n let_v thy_o will_v be_v do_v etc._n etc._n and_o then_o the_o import_n of_o this_o injunction_n will_v be_v this_o when_o you_o pray_v for_o the_o advancement_n of_o god_n glory_n or_o the_o promotion_n of_o his_o kingdom_n or_o the_o performance_n of_o his_o will_n when_o you_o solicit_v for_o any_o temporal_a blessing_n or_o for_o the_o pardon_n of_o your_o sin_n or_o last_o for_o the_o prevention_n of_o any_o evil_n or_o temptation_n of_o what_o kind_n soever_o when_o you_o desire_v any_o of_o these_o mercy_n for_o yourselves_o or_o other_o pray_v to_o your_o heavenly_a father_n for_o they_o 3._o none_o of_o these_o blessing_n must_v be_v ask_v of_o he_o to_o who_o the_o kingdom_n power_n and_o glory_n do_v not_o of_o right_a belong_v for_o this_o be_v add_v as_o the_o cause_n or_o motive_n of_o make_v these_o address_n to_o god_n and_o where_o the_o motive_n or_o cause_n be_v want_v the_o effect_n must_v cease_v now_o to_o god_n only_o the_o kingdom_n power_n and_o glory_n do_v agree_v judas_n 25._o we_o therefore_o must_v address_v our_o prayer_n to_o he_o only_o for_o the_o obtain_n of_o these_o blessing_n and_o lest_o you_o shall_v object_v that_o this_o argument_n exclude_v the_o three_o and_o second_o person_n of_o the_o sacred_a trinity_n let_v it_o be_v note_v that_o all_o the_o schoolman_n do_v affirm_v that_o the_o word_n father_n in_o this_o prayer_n must_v not_o be_v take_v personal_o but_o essential_o and_o so_o exclude_v not_o the_o other_o person_n of_o the_o trinity_n but_o those_o thing_n only_o which_o have_v not_o the_o same_o nature_n with_o they_o 2._o prayer_n offer_v up_o in_o any_o time_n or_o place_n to_o a_o invisible_a and_o for_o any_o thing_n we_o know_v a_o be_v absent_a from_o we_o as_o far_o as_o earth_n from_o heaven_n do_v ascribe_v unto_o that_o be_v the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n now_o to_o worship_v any_o be_v whether_o saint_n or_o angel_n with_o such_o a_o kind_n of_o worship_n which_o do_v ascribe_v unto_o it_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o desire_n and_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n both_o where_o and_o whensoever_o they_o be_v conceive_v or_o utter_v be_v to_o ascribe_v unto_o they_o by_o way_n of_o worship_n what_o be_v not_o due_a to_o saint_n or_o angel_n but_o alone_o to_o god_n as_o have_v be_v prove_v already_o and_o may_v be_v further_o thus_o confirm_v 1._o if_o saint_n depart_v be_v acquaint_v with_o the_o desire_n of_o our_o heart_n why_o do_v elijah_n speak_v unto_o elisha_n thus_o 2.9_o 2_o king_n 2.9_o ask_v what_o thou_o will_v before_o i_o be_o take_v from_o thou_o the_o scripture_n do_v affirm_v that_o he_o be_v take_v up_o into_o the_o heaven_n and_o therefore_o do_v behold_v the_o face_n of_o god_n and_o roman_a catholic_n themselves_o deny_v that_o he_o be_v hold_v in_o limbo_n as_o they_o imagine_v other_o prophet_n be_v be_v in_o heaven_n his_o love_n unto_o elisha_n and_o the_o church_n of_o god_n be_v not_o diminish_v but_o enlarge_v and_o therefore_o upon_o that_o account_n he_o have_v a_o strong_a reason_n to_o ask_v what_o he_o desire_v then_o before_o beside_o the_o prophet_n be_v now_o with_o god_n in_o heaven_n his_o prayer_n will_v more_o effectual_o prevail_v for_o any_o blessing_n for_o his_o friend_n and_o therefore_o he_o have_v great_a reason_n to_o have_v say_v have_v he_o believe_v this_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n ask_v what_o thou_o will_v when_v i_o be_o take_v from_o thou_o and_o therefore_o we_o have_v reason_n to_o presume_v that_o he_o do_v not_o believe_v this_o doctrine_n but_o rather_o think_v that_o his_o departure_n will_v render_v all_o elijah_n future_a wish_n and_o add_v ress_n to_o he_o vain_a and_o ineffectual_a 2._o from_o that_o know_a passage_n of_o isaiah_n abraham_n nescivit_fw-la nos_fw-la &_o israel_n ignoravit_fw-la nos_fw-la st._n augustine_n thus_o conclude_v 13._o conclude_v si_fw-mi tanti_fw-la patriarchae_fw-la quid_fw-la erga_fw-la populum_fw-la ex_fw-la his_fw-la procreatum_fw-la ageretur_fw-la ignoraverunt_fw-la quibus_fw-la deo_fw-la credentibus_fw-la populus_fw-la ipse_fw-la ex_fw-la corum_fw-la stirpe_fw-la promissus_fw-la est_fw-la quomodo_fw-la mortui_fw-la suorum_fw-la rebus_fw-la atque_fw-la actubus_fw-la cognoscendis_fw-la adjuvandisque_fw-la miscentur_fw-la ibi_fw-la ergo_fw-la sunt_fw-la spiritus_fw-la defunctorum_fw-la ubi_fw-la non_fw-la vident_fw-la quaecunque_fw-la aguntur_fw-la aut_fw-la eveniunt_fw-la in_o ista_fw-la vita_fw-la hominibus_fw-la de_fw-fr curâ_fw-la pro_fw-la mortuis_fw-la c._n 13._o if_o such_o great_a patriarch_n be_v ignorant_a of_o what_o be_v do_v towards_o the_o people_n that_o proceed_v from_o their_o loin_n how_o shall_v the_o dead_a be_v conversant_a in_o know_v or_o help_v of_o their_o friend_n in_o what_o they_o do_v there_o therefore_o be_v the_o spirit_n of_o dead_a person_n where_o they_o do_v not_o see_v what_o thing_n be_v do_v or_o happen_v to_o man_n in_o this_o life_n 2._o i_o reason_v thus_o this_o practice_n do_v ascribe_v unto_o the_o object_n of_o our_o prayer_n such_o knowledge_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o such_o a_o cognisance_n of_o all_o petition_n present_v to_o they_o at_o all_o time_n and_o in_o all_o place_n of_o the_o world_n which_o we_o have_v prove_v to_o agree_v to_o god_n alone_o or_o such_o a_o presence_n in_o all_o place_n which_o be_v proper_a to_o he_o and_o therefore_o it_o ascribe_v to_o they_o the_o honour_n due_a to_o god_n alone_o 2._o if_o saint_n depart_v do_v know_v the_o mind_n and_o inward_a thought_n of_o those_o who_o put_v up_o their_o petition_n to_o they_o they_o have_v this_o knowledge_n either_o from_o revelation_n or_o from_o the_o beatific_a vision_n but_o they_o have_v no_o such_o knowledge_n either_o from_o revelation_n or_o from_o the_o beatific_a vision_n ergo._n and_o 1._o god_n do_v not_o ordinary_o reveal_v unto_o they_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o heart_n of_o their_o petitioner_n for_o if_o they_o do_v not_o want_v this_o revelation_n god_n who_o do_v nothing_o vain_o must_v not_o be_v suppose_v to_o impart_v it_o but_o these_o bless_a spirit_n do_v not_o want_v it_o for_o do_v they_o need_v this_o revelation_n to_o perceive_v our_o mind_n say_v bellarmine_n the_o church_n will_v not_o so_o confident_o say_v to_o all_o the_o saint_n 2._o votis_n precamur_fw-la cordium_fw-la audite_fw-la preces_fw-la supplicum_fw-la brev._n in_o com._n apost_n p._n 2._o pray_v for_o i_o much_o less_o we_o offer_v to_o you_o the_o desire_n of_o our_o heart_n but_o sometime_o will_v desire_v god_n thus_o to_o reveal_v our_o prayer_n and_o to_o acquaint_v they_o with_o the_o desire_n of_o our_o heart_n 2._o if_o god_n thus_o reveal_v the_o prayer_n of_o the_o petitioner_n to_o the_o decease_a saint_n what_o reason_n can_v be_v give_v say_v the_o forementioned_a author_n why_o all_o the_o holy_a patriarch_n and_o prophet_n be_v not_o invoke_v by_o the_o church_n of_o israel_n before_o our_o saviour_n advent_n and_o he_o have_v reason_n to_o make_v this_o enquiry_n for_o 1._o it_o be_v as_o easy_a to_o almighty_a god_n to_o make_v this_o revelation_n to_o the_o soul_n in_o limbo_n that_o papal_a prison_n of_o the_o ancient_a patriarch_n and_o holy_a prophet_n as_o to_o the_o soul_n in_o heaven_n nor_o have_v we_o one_o example_n or_o declaration_n that_o what_o god_n be_v suppose_v now_o to_o do_v he_o be_v not_o willing_a to_o do_v then_o 2._o certain_a it_o be_v the_o charity_n of_o those_o depart_a patriarch_n and_o prophet_n towards_o their_o relative_n and_o friend_n and_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o god_n must_v be_v exceed_o advance_v by_o their_o change_n they_o must_v be_v more_o the_o friend_n of_o god_n and_o their_o petition_n must_v be_v more_o prevail_a then_o whilst_o they_o do_v continue_v in_o the_o flesh_n wherefore_o the_o jew_n have_v as_o good_a reason_n to_o invoke_v these_o patriarch_n and_o prophet_n as_o have_v the_o romanist_n to_o call_v upon_o the_o christian_a martyr_n and_o god_n have_v equal_a reason_n to_o declare_v this_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o to_o reveal_v their_o supplication_n to_o the_o patriarch_n as_o to_o
declare_v this_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o the_o christian_a and_o to_o reveal_v their_o supplication_n to_o depart_a christian_n 3._o what_o a_o ridiculous_a office_n do_v they_o impose_v upon_o the_o god_n of_o heaven_n by_o this_o fond_a opinion_n for_o when_o they_o pray_v to_o apollonia_n for_o the_o toothache_n god_n must_v not_o only_o tell_v she_o that_o such_o a_o person_n supplicate_v but_o also_o that_o his_o tooth_n do_v ache_v and_o therefore_o he_o particular_o implore_v her_o assistance_n when_o they_o address_v themselves_o to_o any_o saint_n in_o this_o odd_a language_n 586._o language_n cum_fw-la ad_fw-la imaginem_fw-la sancti_fw-la alicujus_fw-la quis_fw-la dominicam_fw-la orationem_fw-la pronuntiat_fw-la ita_fw-la tum_fw-la sentiat_fw-la se_fw-la ab_fw-la illo_fw-la petere_fw-la ut_fw-la secum_fw-la oret_fw-la sibique_fw-la postulet_fw-la ea_fw-la quae_fw-la dominicae_fw-la orationis_fw-la formulâ_fw-la continentur_fw-la catech._n rom._n part_n 4_o c._n 6._o s_o 4._o p._n 586._o our_o father_n which_o be_v in_o heaven_n etc._n etc._n which_o they_o familiar_o do_v as_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o the_o roman_a catechism_n god_n must_v inform_v this_o saint_n both_o of_o the_o person_n pray_v and_o his_o prayer_n and_o his_o intention_n by_o so_o do_v to_o oblige_v he_o to_o use_v those_o word_n in_o his_o behalf_n 2._o behalf_n o_o praeco_fw-la accelera_fw-la piae_fw-la matri●_n praecare_fw-la viscera_fw-la propr_fw-la fest_n f._n 2._o when_o they_o desire_v any_o saint_n or_o angel_n to_o go_v unto_o the_o bless_a virgin_n this_o saint_n must_v be_v inform_v first_o of_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o prayer_n then_o must_v he_o post_v unto_o the_o bless_a virgin_n and_o she_o must_v go_v unto_o her_o son_n and_o he_o unto_o his_o father_n to_o present_v that_o request_n which_o he_o reveal_v and_o be_v not_o these_o man_n very_o bold_a with_o god_n to_o put_v such_o office_n upon_o he_o and_o make_v he_o nuntio_n to_o all_o his_o creature_n 2._o the_o saint_n depart_v do_v not_o know_v the_o heart_n and_o the_o petition_n of_o their_o supplicant_n by_o virtue_n of_o the_o beatific_a vision_n this_o vain_a presumption_n depend_v on_o this_o that_o see_v god_n they_o must_v in_o he_o behold_v those_o thing_n which_o in_o idea_n be_v contain_v in_o he_o or_o which_o his_o knowledge_n do_v perceive_v and_o so_o the_o refutation_n of_o this_o dream_n will_v be_v sufficient_a confutation_n of_o it_o and_o 1._o that_o which_o the_o holy_a spirit_n only_o know_v these_o bless_a spirit_n do_v not_o know_v but_o the_o thing_n of_o god_n i.e._n his_o purpose_n and_o counsel_n etc._n etc._n know_v no_o man_n but_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n 1_o cor._n 2.11_o ergo._n if_o then_o the_o bless_a spirit_n notwithstanding_o the_o beatific_a vision_n do_v not_o see_v the_o mind_n and_o counsel_n of_o god_n without_o his_o revelation_n why_o shall_v we_o think_v that_o by_o behold_v of_o god_n they_o also_o do_v behold_v the_o supplication_n we_o put_v 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to_o pay_v that_o honour_n to_o these_o bless_a spirit_n which_o be_v due_a to_o god_n alone_o ergo._n the_o major_n be_v apparent_a from_o chap._n 6._o prop._n 1._o the_o minor_a i_o prove_v thus_o to_o pay_v that_o honour_n to_o these_o bless_a spirit_n which_o christian_n pay_v to_o god_n alone_o be_v to_o pay_v that_o honour_n to_o they_o which_o alone_o be_v due_a to_o god_n for_o why_o shall_v the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n which_o if_o we_o may_v believe_v the_o romanist_n receive_v so_o great_a advantage_n by_o their_o address_n to_o these_o bless_a spirit_n refuse_v to_o pay_v unto_o they_o those_o hymn_n and_o praise_n which_o be_v due_a unto_o they_o and_o which_o on_o this_o account_n be_v offer_v to_o they_o by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n but_o to_o offer_v hymn_n unto_o they_o be_v to_o give_v that_o honour_n to_o they_o which_o christian_n pay_v to_o god_n alone_o for_o origen_n do_v in_o the_o name_n of_o all_o his_o fellow_n christian_n say_v 422._o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ita_fw-la origcontr_n cell_n l_o 8._o p._n 422._o we_o offer_v up_o our_o hymn_n only_o to_o god_n and_o his_o son_n jesus_n christ_n 5._o to_o ascribe_v to_o all_o the_o saint_n depart_v and_o the_o holy_a angel_n the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o confession_n of_o our_o sin_n and_o upon_o that_o account_n to_o beg_v that_o they_o will_v intercede_v for_o pardon_n of_o they_o be_v to_o be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n 217._o ord._n missae_fw-la p._n 217._o but_o the_o romanist_n do_v in_o the_o service_n of_o the_o missal_n ascribe_v to_o all_o the_o bless_a spirit_n the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o sin_n they_o do_v confess_v and_o upon_o that_o account_n do_v beg_v that_o they_o will_v intercede_v for_o pardon_n of_o they_o ergo_fw-la the_o major_n may_v be_v thus_o confirm_v to_o ascribe_v to_o all_o these_o bless_a spirit_n now_o in_o heaven_n the_o knowledge_n of_o those_o confession_n which_o we_o make_v on_o earth_n and_o those_o petition_n we_o put_v up_o unto_o they_o be_v to_o be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n by_o prop_n 2._o chap._n 6._o and_o prop._n 4._o corol._n 3._o of_o the_o same_o chapter_n but_o to_o ascribe_v unto_o they_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o confession_n of_o our_o sin_n and_o upon_o that_o account_n to_o beg_v that_o they_o will_v intercede_v for_o pardon_n of_o they_o be_v to_o ascribe_v unto_o they_o the_o knowledge_n of_o those_o petition_n and_o confession_n which_o we_o make_v on_o earth_n for_o this_o be_v to_o suppose_v that_o albeit_o these_o bless_a spirit_n be_v as_o distant_a from_o we_o as_o be_v earth_n from_o heaven_n yet_o be_v they_o as_o assure_o acquaint_v with_o our_o confession_n and_o petition_n as_o if_o they_o have_v be_v present_a with_o we_o for_o who_o will_v move_v another_o to_o intercede_v in_o his_o behalf_n by_o reason_n of_o that_o confession_n he_o have_v make_v unto_o he_o who_o do_v not_o think_v he_o know_v both_o his_o confession_n and_o petition_n 6_o this_o may_v be_v strong_o argue_v 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do_v they_o never_o pray_v by_o the_o merit_n of_o these_o person_n to_o be_v deliver_v from_o 25._o from_o deus_fw-la qui_fw-la beatum_fw-la nicolaum_n p._n tribue_v q●ae●un_v we_o ut_fw-la ejus_fw-la moritis_fw-la &_o pracibus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ochenna_n incend_v be_v liberemus_fw-la miss_n in_o sest_z san●_n nich._n dec._n xi_o deus_fw-la q._n ●_o beatu●_fw-la lodovicum_n ju_o quaesamus_fw-la meritis_fw-la &_o intercessione_n regis_n regan_n ●●su_fw-la christ●●_n f●l_fw-la ●ui_fw-la facias_fw-la nos_fw-la esse_fw-la can_v o●tes_fw-la in_o fest_n beat_v lud._n aug_n 25._o hell_n and_o make_v partaker_n of_o the_o joy_n of_o heaven_n as_o do_v the_o roman_a blashemy_n why_o do_v they_o not_o declare_v with_o they_o that_o they_o do_v 28._o do_v in_o fest_n fa●ct_n agapiti_fw-la aug._n 28._o place_n their_o confidence_n in_o the_o petition_n of_o these_o prevail_a saint_n and_o bless_a spirit_n why_o do_v they_o not_o ascribe_v their_o mercy_n and_o deliverance_n to_o the_o 1605._o the_o 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blessing_n to_o his_o labour_n he_o therefore_o passionate_o entreat_v the_o christian_n to_o who_o his_o writing_n be_v direct_v 31._o rom._n 15.30_o 31._o that_o they_o will_v strive_v together_o with_o he_o in_o their_o prayer_n to_o god_n that_o he_o may_v be_v deliver_v from_o they_o who_o do_v not_o believe_v in_o judea_n and_o that_o his_o service_n which_o he_o have_v for_o jerusalem_n may_v be_v accept_v of_o the_o saint_n and_o that_o he_o may_v come_v unto_o they_o with_o joy_n and_o with_o they_o be_v refresh_v that_o they_o will_v always_o 19_o eph._n 6.18_o 19_o and_o with_o all_o perseverance_n pray_v for_o he_o that_o utterance_n may_v be_v give_v unto_o he_o hat_n he_o may_v open_v his_o mouth_n bold_o to_o make_v know_v the_o mystery_n of_o the_o gospel_n 3._o col._n 4.1_o 2_o 3._o that_o they_o will_v continue_v in_o prayer_n that_o god_n will_v open_v unto_o he_o a_o door_n of_o utterance_n to_o speak_v the_o mystery_n of_o christ_n for_o which_o he_o be_v in_o 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we_o ought_v to_o worship_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o relation_n of_o god_n what_o a_o impertinent_a be_v origen_n to_o speak_v only_o of_o a_o other_o matter_n 2._o the_o strength_n of_o this_o citation_n entire_o depend_v upon_o the_o word_n for_o god_n which_o t._n g._n disingenuous_o add_v unto_o the_o word_n of_o celsus_n 384_o celsus_n l._n 8._o p._n 384_o which_o be_v only_o these_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o worship_v any_o but_o those_o to_o who_o he_o grant_v to_o be_v honour_v but_o 3._o he_o express_o add_v that_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o worship_n of_o the_o god_n or_o the_o daemon_n or_o the_o hero_n 384._o hero_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d l._n 8._o p._n 384._o let_v we_o ask_v celsus_n say_v he_o concern_v those_o that_o be_v worship_v either_o as_o god_n or_o daemon_n or_o hero_n whence_o he_o be_v able_a to_o demonstrate_v that_o god_n have_v grant_v to_o they_o to_o be_v honour_v and_o then_o have_v produce_v alcinous_n 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evident_a it_o be_v that_o celsus_n do_v not_o think_v they_o worship_v he_o as_o god_n but_o as_o the_o minister_n of_o god_n and_o one_o beside_o god_n 2._o hence_o it_o be_v also_o evident_a that_o celsus_n do_v not_o contend_v for_o divine_a worship_n to_o be_v give_v to_o his_o hero_n but_o only_o that_o they_o may_v be_v worship_v as_o the_o minister_n of_o god_n and_o last_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o 386._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d l._n 8._o p._n 386._o origen_n by_o that_o expression_n i_o and_o my_o father_n be_v one_o do_v not_o intend_v to_o argue_v the_o unity_n of_o essence_n but_o of_o affection_n only_o betwixt_o god_n and_o christ_n as_o in_o this_o very_a place_n he_o do_v distinguish_v nor_o yet_o to_o say_v our_o saviour_n be_v that_o god_n who_o be_v the_o lord_n of_o all_o for_o this_o 387._o this_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ib._n p._n 387._o express_o he_o deny_v and_o so_o this_o answer_n can_v be_v no_o evidence_n that_o he_o speak_v of_o worship_n proper_o divine_a but_o if_o we_o do_v at_o last_o admit_v it_o what_o argument_n be_v more_o ridiculous_a than_o this_o origen_n deny_v that_o there_o be_v the_o same_o reason_n to_o give_v honour_n to_o christ_n and_o to_o inferior_a daemon_n because_o christ_n be_v god_n therefore_o he_o only_o do_v deny_v the_o attribute_v of_o divine_a worship_n to_o they_o for_o shall_v a_o roman_n catholic_n object_n against_o we_o in_o the_o word_n of_o celsus_n by_o the_o same_o rule_n that_o we_o protestant_n give_v honour_n to_o christ_n we_o may_v give_v it_o unto_o saint_n depart_v and_o shall_v the_o protestant_a answer_n no_o because_o christ_n be_v god_n can_v it_o be_v thence_o infer_v that_o protestant_n deny_v to_o saint_n depart_v that_o honour_n only_o which_o be_v call_v latria_n but_o do_v allow_v that_o kind_n of_o worship_n which_o be_v call_v dulia_n to_o pray_v unto_o a_o creature_n 3._o arg._n 3._o or_o that_o which_o be_v not_o god_n be_v in_o the_o language_n 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office_n which_o the_o platonist_n ascribe_v to_o their_o daemon_n they_o say_v 18._o say_v august_n de_fw-fr c._n d._n l._n 8._o c._n 18._o st._n austin_n bring_v the_o prayer_n of_o man_n unto_o the_o god_n and_o what_o they_o beg_v and_o do_v obtain_v quae_fw-la poscunt_fw-la impetrata_fw-la they_o bring_v back_o to_o man_n and_o again_o they_o think_v they_o so_o to_o intermediate_v betwixt_o god_n and_o man_n as_o that_o they_o carry_v out_o desire_v hence_o illinc_fw-la referunt_fw-la impetrata_fw-la and_o from_o thence_o bring_v back_o what_o they_o have_v obtain_v hence_o be_v they_o often_o style_v by_o they_o advocate_n and_o mediator_n intercessor_n and_o pararii_n i._n e._n the_o obrainer_n of_o our_o suit_n 2._o on_o this_o account_n they_o think_v it_o reasonable_a to_o honour_v they_o with_o supplication_n conciliatores_fw-la supplication_n ficinus_fw-la tradit_fw-la platonem_fw-la universan_fw-la deorum_fw-la synagogam_fw-la unico_fw-la regi_fw-la subdere_fw-la prout_fw-la vult_fw-la sengulis_fw-la imperanti_fw-la jubere_fw-la primum_fw-la deum_fw-la adori_fw-la propter_fw-la seipsum_fw-la sequentes_fw-la vero_fw-la qui_fw-la participes_fw-la ejus_fw-la dii_fw-la queque_fw-la dicuntur_fw-la amari_fw-la tanquam_fw-la illi_fw-la similiores_fw-la honorari_fw-la etiam_fw-la ut_fw-la vicarios_fw-la imo_fw-la &_o advocari_fw-la lanquam_fw-la conciliatores_fw-la plato_n say_v ficinus_fw-la subject_v the_o whole_a number_n of_o god_n unto_o one_o king_n who_o as_o he_o please_v do_v command_v they_o all_o and_o he_o command_v that_o the_o chief_a god_n shall_v be_v worship_v for_o himself_o the_o other_o who_o be_v also_o call_v god_n by_o participation_n to_o be_v love_v as_o like_a to_o he_o and_o to_o be_v honour_v as_o his_o vicar_n and_o to_o be_v address_v to_o as_o to_o reconciler_n and_o plato_n have_v himself_o determine_v 1010._o determine_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d epinom_n pag._n 1010._o that_o they_o ought_v to_o be_v honour_v with_o our_o prayer_n by_o reason_n of_o their_o laudable_a province_n which_o he_o say_v be_v double_a 1._o 1194._o 1._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d symposium_fw-la p._n 1194._o to_o be_v our_o interpreter_n to_o god_n 2._o to_o carry_v up_o the_o prayer_n and_o sacrifice_n of_o man_n to_o god_n and_o to_o bring_v back_o the_o command_n and_o answer_n of_o god_n to_o they_o 394._o they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d celsus_n apud_fw-la origen_n lib._n 8._o p._n 394._o we_o ought_v to_o pray_v unto_o they_o to_o be_v propitious_a to_o we_o so_o celsus_n 3._o they_o do_v not_o think_v they_o to_o be_v god_n proper_o so_o call_v but_o only_o the_o minister_n and_o servant_n of_o god_n as_o i_o have_v prove_v above_o 45._o above_o c●●cta_fw-la coelestum_fw-la voluntate_fw-la numine_fw-la &_o autoritate_fw-la fiunt_fw-la sed_fw-la paer_n num_fw-la obsequy_n op●●a_o &_o ministerio_fw-la apulesus_n de_fw-fr daemon_n sociate_n p._n 45._o all_o thing_n be_v do_v say_v apuleius_n by_o the_o will_n majesty_n and_o authority_n of_o the_o heavenly_a being_n but_o by_o the_o ministry_n work_n and_o obsequiqusness_n of_o the_o daemon_n hence_o do_v they_o style_v they_o virtutes_fw-la &_o ministeria_fw-la dei_fw-la magni_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i._o e._n god_n minister_n and_o messenger_n hence_o do_v they_o rank_v they_o in_o the_o second_o and_o three_o place_n from_o god_n and_o put_v this_o office_n on_o they_o quia_fw-la nullus_fw-la deus_fw-la miscetur_fw-la homini_fw-la because_o no_o god_n that_o be_v properly_z so_o call_v do_v immediate_o converse_v with_o man_n this_o be_v so_o plain_a that_o austin_n do_v acknowledge_v that_o the_o difference_n betwixt_o 23._o betwixt_o hos_fw-la si_fw-la platonici_fw-la malunt_fw-la deos_fw-la quam_fw-la daemon_n dicere_fw-la eisque_fw-la annumerare_fw-la quos_fw-la a_o summo_fw-la deo_fw-la conditos_fw-la deos_fw-la scribit_fw-la eorum_fw-la author_n &_o magister_n plato_n dicant_fw-la quod_fw-la volunt_fw-la non_fw-la enim_fw-la cum_fw-la eye_n de_fw-la verborum_fw-la controversia_fw-la laborandum_fw-la est_fw-la &_o rursus_fw-la quamvis_fw-la nominis_fw-la controversia_fw-la videatur_fw-la aug._n the_o civ_o dei_fw-la l._n 9_o cap._n 23._o plato_n good_a daemon_n which_o he_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v make_v by_o the_o high_a god_n and_o the_o good_a angel_n be_v only_o in_o the_o name_n have_v thus_o draw_v the_o parallel_n we_o be_v prepare_v to_o attend_v t._n g's_o pretence_n of_o a_o great_a disparity_n betwixt_o this_o invocation_n of_o the_o heathen_a daemon_n which_o by_o the_o ancient_a father_n be_v charge_v with_o idolatry_n and_o that_o invocation_n of_o the_o saint_n depart_v which_o be_v now_o practise_v by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o will_v be_v quick_o do_v since_o all_o his_o great_a disparity_n be_v only_o great_a impertinency_n for_o what_o be_v this_o unto_o the_o doctor_n argument_n concern_v invocation_n that_o they_o do_v not_o offer_v sacrifice_n unto_o the_o saint_n depart_v which_o be_v his_o four_o disparity_n or_o that_o the_o god_n they_o worship_v be_v the_o true_a immortal_a god_n who_o see_v the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n which_o be_v his_o first_o disparity_n what_o be_v it_o to_o the_o purpose_n to_o say_v the_o person_n they_o address_v their_o prayer_n unto_o be_v not_o devil_n or_o wicked_a wretch_n but_o the_o bless_a spirit_n for_o if_o the_o same_o kind_n of_o invocation_n be_v use_v to_o both_o it_o must_v be_v deem_v idolatry_n in_o both_o because_o in_o both_o it_o be_v the_o give_v of_o the_o worship_n due_a to_o god_n unto_o the_o creature_n when_o this_o be_v do_v unto_o the_o best_a of_o creature_n then_o be_v idolatry_n commit_v when_o this_o be_v not_o do_v we_o may_v be_v guilty_a of_o superstition_n or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o give_v of_o inferior_a worship_n or_o dulia_n to_o the_o worst_a of_o creature_n but_o can_v be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n and_o this_o cut_n of_o his_o three_o disparity_n 4._o 351._o pag_n 351._o their_o office_n be_v not_o to_o inform_v the_o supreme_a god_n of_o what_o he_o know_v not_o say_v t._n g._n but_o to_o be_v joint_a petitioner_n with_o we_o and_o what_o be_v this_o unto_o the_o purpose_n see_v the_o father_n neither_o do_v or_o can_v condemn_v they_o of_o idolatry_n for_o think_v god_n do_v not_o know_v our_o prayer_n without_o interpreter_n but_o for_o what_o be_v consequent_a upon_o it_o viz._n the_o make_v their_o address_n to_o they_o to_o present_v their_o request_n to_o god_n and_o by_o their_o prayer_n to_o obtain_v his_o blessing_n the_o first_o opinion_n make_v they_o sacrilegious_a in_o rob_v god_n of_o what_o do_v proper_o belong_v unto_o he_o and_o with_o this_o we_o do_v not_o charge_v the_o papist_n in_o this_o case_n the_o second_o be_v idolatrical_a in_o give_v of_o his_o honour_n to_o a_o creature_n of_o which_o they_o be_v but_o too_o much_o guilty_a this_o t._n g._n see_v as_o well_o as_o i_o and_o therefore_o for_o the_o same_o good_a reason_n that_o some_o unskilful_a painter_n write_v under_o their_o work_n this_o be_v a_o dog_n a_o cat_n 352._o pag_n 352._o etc._n etc._n t.g._n at_o the_o foot_n of_o his_o performance_n write_v thus_o i_o have_v speak_v home_o to_o the_o case_n and_o then_o he_o state_v it_o thus_o whether_o the_o practice_n of_o catholic_n in_o honour_v and_o invocate_a the_o saint_n be_v the_o same_o with_o that_o of_o the_o heathen_n in_o the_o worship_n of_o their_o inferior_a deity_n 440._o t.g._n pag._n 440._o thus_o expire_a candle_n gather_v up_o its_o spirit_n and_o force_n itself_o into_o a_o blaze_n before_o it_o die_v alas_o that_o we_o shall_v all_o this_o while_o have_v be_v mistake_v in_o the_o question_n the_o question_n hitherto_o controvert_v betwixt_o dr._n st._n and_o he_o in_o this_o particular_a be_v concern_v the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n as_o t._n g._n do_v himself_o confess_v p._n 350._o but_o now_o like_o a_o mischievous_a card_n that_o will_v spoil_v the_o hand_n this_o be_v drop_v under_o the_o table_n and_o all_o the_o show_n above_o board_n be_v whether_o their_o invocation_n of_o saint_n do_v differ_v not_o from_o the_o invocation_n but_o the_o whole_a worship_n of_o inferior_a daemon_n the_o business_n of_o solemn_a supplication_n to_o they_o be_v the_o case_n in_o debate_n between_o we_o and_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n say_v dr._n st._n if_o ever_o you_o will_v speak_v home_o to_o the_o case_n do_v it_o upon_o this_o point_n 145._o pag._n 145._o i_o beg_v your_o pardon_n say_v t._n g._n i_o be_o not_o free_a to_o speak_v upon_o that_o point_n i_o know_v my_o foot_n must_v slip_v if_o i_o shall_v touch_v upon_o it_o and_o therefore_o though_o you_o press_v i_o and_o call_v upon_o i_o to_o speak_v home_o unto_o it_o i_o be_o resolve_v to_o be_v reserve_v nay_o i_o be_o conscious_a to_o myself_o that_o all_o that_o i_o have_v speak_v be_v impertinent_a to_o that_o case_n i_o have_v not_o nor_o i_o can_v show_v the_o 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angel_n they_o pray_v thus_o cust_n thus_o huc_fw-la eustos_fw-la igitur_fw-la pervigil_n advola_fw-la avertens_fw-la patria_fw-la de_fw-la tibi_fw-la credita_fw-la tam_fw-la morbos_fw-la animi_fw-la quam_fw-la requiescere_fw-la quicquid_fw-la non_fw-la sinit_fw-la incolas_fw-la brev._n r._n reform_v off._n angeli_fw-la cust_n thou_o watchful_a guardian_n hither_o therefore_o fly_v and_o from_o that_o country_n where_o thy_o charge_n do_v lie_v divert_v what_o ere_o may_v prove_v their_o mind_n disease_n and_o what_o disturb_v the_o people_n quiet_a peace_n and_o again_o angeli_fw-la again_o tu_fw-la es_fw-la spes_fw-la mea_fw-la gloriose_fw-la angelo_n altissimus_fw-la te_fw-la posuit_fw-la &_o mihi_fw-la dedit_fw-la refugium_fw-la tuum_fw-la non_fw-la accedat_fw-la igitur_fw-la ad_fw-la i_o malum_fw-la &_o flagellum_fw-la non_fw-la appropinquet_fw-la tabernaculo_fw-la meo_fw-la mi_fw-mi custos_fw-la gloriose_fw-la i_o consigna_fw-la &_o seruis_fw-la dei_fw-la aggrega_fw-la gloriosis_n apprehend_v arma_fw-la &_o scutum_fw-la &_o exurge_v angelo_n in_o adjutorium_fw-la mihi_fw-la dic_fw-la animae_fw-la meae_fw-la salus_fw-la tua_fw-la ego_fw-la sum_fw-la missa_fw-la in_o honorem_fw-la proprii_fw-la angeli_fw-la thou_o be_v my_o hope_n most_o glorious_a angel_n the_o most_o high_a have_v give_v and_o appoint_v thou_o to_o be_v my_o refuge_n let_v then_o no_o evil_n come_v unto_o i_o let_v not_o the_o scourge_n come_v nigh_o my_o tabernacle_n mark_v i_o and_o gather_v i_o unto_o god_n glorious_a servant_n take_v hold_v of_o shield_n and_o buckler_n and_o stand_v up_o to_o help_v i_o say_v unto_o my_o soul_n i_o be_o thy_o salvation_n the_o old_a roman_a missal_n f._n 52._o have_v a_o prayer_n to_o this_o effect_n gratia_fw-la effect_n omnis_fw-la homo_fw-la omni_fw-la die_fw-la gabrielis_fw-la &_o mariae_fw-la poscat_fw-la beneficia_fw-la exit_fw-la his_fw-la manet_fw-la fons_fw-la virtutis_fw-la dulcor_fw-la aquavitae_fw-la spes_fw-la salutis_fw-la et_fw-la 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remove_v a_o present_a evil_n must_v they_o not_o think_v it_o proper_a to_o request_v if_o god_n have_v place_v a_o guardian_n angel_n for_o their_o refuge_n may_v they_o not_o ask_v he_o to_o do_v the_o office_n of_o a_o guardian_n as_o well_o as_o any_o other_o thing_n and_o to_o preserve_v they_o in_o their_o way_n that_o so_o no_o evil_a may_v befall_v they_o this_o upon_o supposition_n that_o they_o do_v always_o hear_v our_o prayer_n be_v very_o rational_a when_o therefore_o t._n g._n do_v insinuate_v that_o they_o only_o do_v desire_v these_o bless_a spirit_n to_o offer_v up_o our_o prayer_n 361._o p._n 361._o or_o to_o pray_v for_o we_o as_o we_o desire_v the_o prayer_n of_o just_a man_n upon_o earth_n he_o do_v insinuate_v a_o most_o apparent_a falsehood_n for_o beside_o that_o signal_n difference_n betwixt_o request_v of_o our_o brother_n to_o pray_v for_o we_o and_o their_o petition_n direct_v to_o the_o holy_a angel_n to_o preserve_v they_o from_o the_o assault_n of_o 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and_o therefore_o to_o ascribe_v this_o knowledge_n to_o they_o be_v to_o ascribe_v unto_o they_o what_o be_v god_n propriety_n and_o consequent_o to_o be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n by_o prop._n 1._o and_o as_o a_o far_a evidence_n that_o no_o such_o knowledge_n be_v communicate_v to_o the_o bless_a angel_n either_o by_o revelation_n or_o by_o the_o beatific_a vision_n consider_v that_o from_o this_o suppose_a communication_n it_o will_v follow_v as_o it_o be_v well_o suggest_v by_o the_o learned_a 80_o learned_a addamus_fw-la angelos_n ne_fw-la quidem_fw-la supernaturaliter_fw-la de_fw-la facto_fw-la cognoscere_fw-la quaslibet_fw-la cordium_fw-la cogitationes_fw-la quasi_fw-la hoc_fw-la eye_n competat_fw-la communi_fw-la lege_fw-la beatudinis_fw-la nam_fw-la si_fw-la ita_fw-la esset_fw-la nondum_fw-la absolutam_fw-la haberent_fw-la veritatem_fw-la generales_fw-la sententiae_fw-la soli_fw-la deo_fw-la tribuentes_fw-la notitiam_fw-la occultarum_fw-la cogitationum_fw-la 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all_o those_o sentence_n of_o scripture_n and_o the_o holy_a father_n which_o attribute_v this_o knowledge_n of_o our_o secret_a thought_n and_o of_o the_o inward_a motion_n of_o the_o heart_n to_o god_n alone_o will_v not_o be_v absolute_o true_a but_o without_o this_o limitation_n viz._n god_n only_o natural_o know_v they_o or_o some_o like_a exception_n they_o will_v be_v absolute_o false_a and_o yet_o this_o limitation_n the_o scripture_n and_o the_o holy_a father_n never_o do_v insinuate_v so_o that_o as_o it_o be_v absolute_o true_a that_o unto_o god_n alone_o belong_v the_o knowledge_n of_o contingent_a being_n although_o he_o sometime_o do_v reveal_v some_o matter_n of_o that_o nature_n to_o his_o priest_n and_o prophet_n nor_o do_v we_o notwithstanding_o think_v that_o such_o a_o knowledge_n do_v belong_v to_o saint_n and_o angel_n so_o be_v it_o absolute_o true_a that_o unto_o god_n alone_o belong_v the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o inward_a thought_n and_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n nor_o have_v we_o any_o reason_n to_o conceive_v that_o such_o a_o knowledge_n ordinary_o belong_v to_o saint_n and_o angel_n 4._o §_o 4._o 2._o to_o worship_v any_o creature_n with_o the_o mind_n be_v to_o be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n this_o be_v the_o ancient_a and_o undoubted_a doctrine_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n for_o this_o st._n austin_n witness_v that_o 34._o that_o divinè_n &_o singulariter_fw-la in_o ecclesla_n catholica_fw-la
advantage_n to_o our_o cause_n the_o father_n speak_v upon_o this_o text_n if_o we_o have_v nothing_o more_o to_o say_v but_o what_o they_o have_v deliver_v on_o these_o word_n yet_o shall_v we_o have_v what_o be_v abundant_o sufficient_a to_o confirm_v our_o faith_n and_o justify_v that_o imputation_n which_o we_o lie_v upon_o the_o cburch_n of_o rome_n for_o first_o they_o do_v express_o say_v that_o this_o exposition_n of_o t._n g._n and_o his_o infallible_a mother_n be_v not_o only_o false_a but_o a_o heretical_a exposition_n 15._o exposition_n ac_fw-la si_fw-la aliquis_fw-la haereticus_fw-la pertinaciter_fw-la obluctans_fw-la adversus_fw-la veritatem_fw-la voluerit_fw-la in_o his_o omnibus_fw-la exemplis_fw-la proprie_fw-la angelum_fw-la aut_fw-la intelligere_fw-la aut_fw-la intelligendum_fw-la esse_fw-la contenderit_fw-la in_o hoc_fw-la quoque_fw-la viribus_fw-la veritatis_fw-la frangatur_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la de_fw-fr trin._n c._n 15._o if_o any_o heretic_n say_v 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with_o god_n this_o custom_n therefore_o of_o put_v up_o the_o same_o petition_n in_o the_o same_o sentence_n to_o god_n and_o to_o the_o bless_a angel_n or_o to_o god_n and_o to_o the_o saint_n or_o angel_n must_v be_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v a_o thing_n arr._n thing_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d orat._n 4_o contr_n arr._n exceed_o repugnant_a to_o the_o doctrine_n which_o then_o obtain_v in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o that_o which_o they_o esteem_v the_o 115._o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d b._n cyrill_n alexandr_n thesau_n p._n 115._o gross_a error_n 3_o they_o give_v we_o this_o as_o a_o sufficient_a evidence_n that_o jacob_n speak_v not_o to_o a_o creature_n because_o he_o say_v 260._o orat._n 4._o contra_fw-la arian_n p._n 260._o the_o angel_n that_o deliver_v i_o from_o all_o evil_n hence_o it_o be_v manifest_a say_v athanasius_n and_o st._n cyril_n that_o he_o do_v not_o speak_v of_o a_o create_a angel_n but_o of_o the_o angel_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o these_o petition_n prescribe_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o often_o tender_v both_o to_o saint_n and_o angel_n be_v in_o the_o judgement_n of_o these_o father_n such_o as_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v tender_v to_o a_o creature_n and_o so_o be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n as_o therefore_o athanasius_n to_o the_o arian_n so_o say_v i_o to_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n 369._o rome_n contr._n arian_n ora_fw-la 2._o p._n 369._o let_v they_o know_v that_o never_o any_o good_a man_n put_v up_o such_o a_o prayer_n to_o any_o thing_n that_o be_v beget_v they_o be_v teach_v by_o christ_n to_o pray_v to_o god_n the_o father_n to_o be_v deliver_v from_o all_o evil._n 8._o c._n 16._o v._n 8._o and_o by_o the_o son_n of_o syrach_n to_o confess_v that_o it_o be_v he_o who_o deliver_v from_o all_o evil_a and_o this_o interpretation_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n will_v manifest_o appear_v to_o be_v the_o truth_n if_o we_o consider_v who_o this_o angel_n be_v for_o the_o angel_n who_o deliver_v he_o from_o all_o evil_a must_v be_v that_o very_a angel_n which_o deliver_v he_o from_o laban_n wrath_n and_o from_o the_o fury_n of_o his_o brother_n esau_n now_o the_o angel_n which_o say_v unto_o he_o i_o have_v see_v all_o that_o laban_n do_v unto_o thou_o 13._o 31_o gen._n 13.20_o 28_o gen._n 13._o return_v thou_o therefore_o into_o the_o land_n of_o thy_o kindred_n be_v the_o god_n of_o bethel_n the_o god_n to_o who_o he_o vow_v a_o vow_n that_o god_n who_o do_v appear_v in_o haran_n to_o he_o it_o be_v the_o god_n of_o his_o father_n abraham_n and_o the_o fear_n of_o isaac_n that_o rebuke_v laban_n and_o charge_v he_o not_o to_o do_v he_o hurt_v 4._o v._o 29.42.32_o gen._n 23._o 12_o hos_fw-la 4._o the_o angel_n that_o he_o wrestle_v with_o and_o with_o who_o he_o prevail_v be_v the_o god_n of_o heaven_n last_o it_o be_v his_o prayer_n to_o this_o god_n that_o make_v his_o brother_n esau_n melt_v into_o expression_n of_o the_o great_a love_n 2._o i_o answer_v this_o be_v no_o prayer_n but_o a_o wish_v thus_o when_o st._n paul_n conclude_v in_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n the_o grace_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n and_o the_o love_n of_o god_n 13.14_o 2_o cor._n 13.14_o and_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v with_o you_o all_o i_o hope_v he_o do_v not_o pray_v unto_o the_o grace_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o love_n of_o god_n and_o the_o communication_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n so_o then_o this_o passage_n may_v be_v thus_o expound_v i_o wish_v to_o god_n that_o he_o and_o that_o good_a angel_n who_o under_o he_o preserve_v i_o from_o all_o evil_n may_v preserve_v the_o lad_n some_o roman_a catholic_n confess_v that_o which_o we_o now_o contend_v for_o and_o tell_v we_o 18._o vide_fw-la vossium_n de_fw-fr invoc_n sanct._n disp_n 2_o th._n 18._o that_o although_o this_o practice_n in_o its_o self_n be_v good_a and_o profitable_a god_n will_v not_o suffer_v his_o own_o people_n to_o invoke_v these_o bless_a spirit_n lest_o they_o shall_v worship_v they_o as_o god_n idolatry_n be_v a_o vice_n they_o be_v so_o prone_a upon_o the_o least_o occasion_n to_o commit_v answer_v we_o find_v that_o notwithstanding_o the_o proneness_n of_o this_o people_n to_o that_o sin_n god_n often_o do_v appear_v in_o the_o similitude_n of_o angel_n to_o they_o he_o use_v the_o ministry_n of_o angel_n in_o the_o delivery_n of_o that_o law_n they_o do_v so_o high_o reverence_n he_o use_v their_o ministry_n both_o in_o confer_v of_o the_o choice_a blessing_n on_o his_o people_n and_o the_o inflict_a of_o the_o most_o remarkable_a judgement_n both_o on_o they_o and_o on_o their_o enemy_n and_o he_o deliver_v those_o thing_n touch_v the_o ministry_n and_o custody_n of_o holy_a angel_n which_o romanist_n conceive_v to_o be_v sufficient_a ground_n and_o motive_n for_o their_o invocation_n whence_o we_o may_v very_o well_o conclude_v it_o be_v not_o out_o of_o fear_n of_o any_o proneness_n of_o that_o people_n to_o this_o idolatry_n that_o he_o do_v not_o enjoin_v this_o practice_n but_o only_o because_o he_o be_v a_o jealous_a god_n and_o will_v not_o give_v his_o honour_n to_o another_o against_o the_o worship_n of_o a_o image_n or_o of_o the_o host_n of_o heaven_n or_o any_o other_o god_n which_o by_o the_o heathen_n be_v still_o worship_v under_o some_o visible_a representation_n we_o have_v frequent_a caution_n and_o very_o dreadful_a threaten_n in_o moses_n and_o the_o prophet_n but_o against_o this_o idolatry_n of_o worship_v those_o spirit_n which_o in_o their_o nature_n be_v invisible_a those_o writing_n give_v we_o not_o one_o caution_n or_o prohibition_n though_o they_o do_v often_o call_v they_o god_n of_o which_o affair_n i_o be_o not_o able_a to_o conceive_v a_o better_a reason_n than_o this_o be_v that_o it_o be_v just_a matter_n of_o suspicion_n that_o this_o rude_a heavy_a people_n may_v be_v prone_a to_o worship_v what_o they_o see_v but_o it_o be_v not_o 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that_o it_o condemn_v and_o that_o a_o act_n so_o frame_v as_o to_o condemn_v a_o person_n as_o guilty_a of_o the_o high_a crime_n and_o worthy_a of_o the_o severe_a punishment_n for_o do_v what_o in_o the_o plain_a and_o literal_a meaning_n of_o the_o word_n all_o they_o that_o frame_v the_o act_n and_o they_o that_o own_v it_o as_o a_o law_n do_v daily_o practice_v be_v a_o absurdity_n that_o humane_a nature_n can_v possible_o be_v guilty_a of_o when_o therefore_o i_o can_v find_v a_o act_n of_o parliament_n intend_v only_o to_o condemn_v incestuous_a conversation_n frame_v thus_o whosoever_o shall_v marry_v any_o woman_n let_v he_o be_v severe_o punish_v or_o a_o decree_n of_o any_o council_n intend_v only_o to_o forbid_v we_o to_o go_v to_o the_o assembly_n of_o heretic_n thus_o word_v whosoever_o shall_v go_v to_o church_n let_v he_o be_v
and_o that_o of_o the_o catholic_n 2._o the_o reasonableness_n of_o the_o practice_n of_o make_v address_n to_o one_o particular_a saint_n rather_o than_o another_o but_o 1._o be_v both_o these_o thing_n as_o true_a as_o gospel_n yet_o be_v they_o horrible_o impertinent_a to_o what_o the_o doctor_n urge_v viz._n that_o origen_n have_v he_o conceive_v the_o invocation_n of_o any_o holy_a angel_n or_o of_o saint_n depart_v proper_a to_o obtain_v deliverance_n from_o the_o disease_n of_o the_o body_n he_o will_v have_v mention_v their_o name_n in_o opposition_n to_o the_o name_n of_o those_o egyptian_a precedent_n or_o daemon_n who_o celsus_n do_v advise_v we_o to_o invoke_v on_o that_o account_n which_o argument_n be_v more_o convince_a because_o he_o do_v oppose_v unto_o they_o the_o holy_a name_n of_o jesus_n as_o that_o which_o be_v invoke_v by_o all_o true_a christian_n to_o that_o end_n now_o unto_o this_o consideration_n nothing_o be_v more_o impertinent_a and_o more_o ridiculous_o 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decease_v but_o in_o the_o name_n or_o between_o the_o egyptian_n address_n to_o these_o devil_n and_o those_o of_o the_o catholic_n to_o the_o holy_a saint_n and_o angel_n but_o in_o the_o language_n and_o that_o there_o need_v no_o more_o but_o to_o correct_v the_o name_n as_o you_o will_v do_v fault_n in_o print_v viz._n for_o chnumen_n to_o read_v raphael_n for_o chnaachnumen_n apollonia_n for_o gnat_n sebastian_n etc._n etc._n whereas_o this_o affirmation_n be_v plain_o inconsistent_a with_o the_o doctor_n word_n 150._o p._n 150._o who_o introduce_v one_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n affirm_v that_o the_o thing_n be_v rational_a which_o he_o say_v only_o they_o be_v out_o in_o their_o name_n for_o instead_o of_o chnumen_n chnaachumen_fw-la cnat_fw-la sy●at_fw-la biu_fw-la eru_n etc._n etc._n they_o shall_v have_v choose_v raphael_n for_o travel_v and_o against_o disease_n apollonia_n against_o the_o toothache_n now_o it_o be_v sure_a not_o roman_a doctor_n ever_o teach_v the_o very_a name_n of_o raphael_n and_o appollonia_n will_v cure_v disease_n but_o that_o the_o soul_n or_o person_n call_v by_o those_o name_n can_v do_v it_o and_o 2._o no_o romanist_n can_v be_v presume_v to_o confess_v according_a to_o the_o principle_n of_o his_o profession_n that_o it_o be_v either_o rational_a to_o pray_v to_o evil_a spirit_n or_o to_o bare_a word_n and_o name_n and_o therefore_o when_o he_o bring_v he_o in_o assert_v that_o the_o thing_n be_v rational_a which_o celsus_n say_v only_o the_o name_n be_v to_o be_v change_v he_o can_v be_v conceive_v to_o mean_v it_o otherwise_o than_o thus_o it_o be_v rational_a we_o shall_v pray_v for_o health_n provide_v that_o we_o do_v not_o do_v it_o to_o these_o evil_a spirit_n which_o be_v call_v by_o the_o name_n of_o cnat_n and_o sicat_fw-la but_o to_o those_o bless_a spirit_n which_o in_o our_o liturgy_n be_v call_v raphael_n apollonia_n sebastian_n and_o roach_n 2_o of_o these_o two_o thing_n the_o second_o viz._n the_o reasonableness_n of_o this_o practice_n the_o doctor_n be_v so_o far_o from_o mock_v at_o or_o make_v it_o the_o subject_n of_o his_o mirth_n as_o do_v arnobius_n that_o it_o be_v bare_o mention_v by_o the_o doctor_n without_o the_o least_o reflection_n on_o it_o that_o unless_o to_o mention_v be_v to_o expose_v this_o practice_n to_o derision_n the_o doctor_n can_v without_o the_o great_a falsehood_n be_v accuse_v of_o it_o and_o if_o it_o be_v so_o this_o guilt_n fall_v heavy_a on_o t._n g._n who_o spend_v so_o many_o page_n to_o justify_v what_o be_v expose_v if_o it_o be_v only_o mention_v 363._o t._n g._n p._n 368_o 362_o 363._o the_o difference_n he_o put_v betwixt_o the_o egyptian_a daemon_n and_o his_o saint_n and_o angel_n be_v 1._o that_o the_o egyptian_n believe_v their_o daemon_n to_o be_v go_n 363._o p._n 363._o but_o this_o be_v either_o manifest_o false_a or_o else_o intend_v only_o to_o delude_v the_o reader_n for_o celsus_n call_v they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d earthly_a daemon_n 417._o apud_fw-la orig_n l._n 8._o p._n 417._o and_o add_v that_o wise_a man_n teach_v their_o power_n be_v limit_v that_o they_o can_v only_o heal_v man_n body_n and_o foretell_v future_a thing_n to_o private_a man_n and_o city_n and_o have_v the_o power_n to_o do_v such_o thing_n as_o do_v concern_v the_o action_n of_o mortal_a man_n and_o therefore_o bid_v we_o to_o beware_v lest_o we_o be_v guilty_a of_o excess_n in_o pay_v homage_n to_o they_o and_o so_o forget_v that_o service_n which_o we_o owe_v unto_o their_o better_n whence_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o celsus_n do_v not_o speak_v of_o they_o as_o god_n in_o the_o most_o famous_a sense_n as_o it_o import_v the_o great_a creator_n of_o the_o world_n but_o in_o that_o sense_n in_o which_o st._n austin_n say_v whether_o you_o call_v they_o angel_n ult_n de_fw-fr c._n d._n l._n 9_o c._n ult_n god_n or_o daemon_n the_o difference_n be_v only_o in_o the_o name_n hence_o in_o this_o very_a place_n celsus_n first_o call_v they_o daemon_n and_o then_o by_o way_n of_o paraphrase_n aethereal_a go_n 2._o say_v he_o ibid._n ibid._n the_o invocation_n which_o celsus_n here_o contend_v for_o be_v votiva_fw-la illis_fw-la sacrificia_fw-la reddere_fw-la to_o offer_v sacrifice_n to_o they_o which_o be_v due_a to_o god_n alone_o and_o that_o upon_o account_n that_o they_o have_v power_n to_o heal_v the_o disease_n of_o the_o part_n proper_a to_o themselves_o answ_n 1._o this_o be_v that_o disingenuous_a art_n of_o add_v to_o the_o word_n of_o origen_n which_o t._n g._n be_v so_o unconscionable_a guilty_a of_o for_o do_v celsus_n say_v that_o if_o we_o sacrifice_v unto_o they_o they_o will_v heal_v we_o no_o he_o express_o say_v invocati_fw-la sanant_fw-la they_o do_v it_o be_v call_v upon_o do_v he_o say_v that_o what_o he_o call_v invocation_n be_v a_o sacrifice_n no_o do_v he_o move_v we_o to_o sacrifice_v unto_o they_o because_o they_o heal_v no_o but_o only_o do_v infer_v 416._o p._n 416._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d why_o may_v we_o not_o endeavour_v to_o procure_v their_o favour_n do_v origen_n reply_n that_o though_o he_o mention_v invocation_n he_o intend_v sacrifice_n no_o but_o only_o thus_o celsus_n will_v have_v we_o to_o believe_v the_o daemon_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o pay_v they_o reverence_n if_o celsus_n do_v contend_v for_o sacrificia_fw-la votiva_fw-la origen_n answer_v not_o one_o word_n to_o that_o which_o he_o contend_v for_o do_v the_o egyptian_a magi_n procure_v these_o blessing_n from_o they_o by_o sacrifice_n no_o origen_n tell_v we_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o the_o egyptian_a magician_n do_v this_o by_o invocation_n of_o their_o daemon_n 417._o p._n 417._o do_v he_o imagine_v that_o celsus_n so_o conceive_v no_o he_o express_o say_v that_o he_o have_v give_v we_o a_o catalogue_n of_o egyptian_a name_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v call_v upon_o ibid._n ibid._n heal_v the_o distemper_n of_o their_o part_n have_v then_o t._n g._n no_o colour_n for_o this_o interpretation_n answ_n for_o say_v that_o by_o invocation_n celsus_n intend_v votiva_fw-la sacrificia_fw-la he_o have_v no_o pretence_n for_o mention_v votiva_fw-la sacrificia_fw-la he_o have_v only_o this_o viz._n that_o celsus_n before_o he_o come_v to_o mention_v the_o egyptian_a daemon_n speak_v of_o other_o daemon_n he_o contend_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o sacrifice_n of_o thanksgiving_n must_v be_v due_a unto_o they_o 416._o p._n 415_o 416._o which_o t._n g._n very_o fair_o turn_v into_o votiva_fw-la sacrificia_fw-la or_o petitory_a sacrifice_n that_o so_o he_o may_v have_v something_o to_o pretend_v by_o way_n of_o answer_n though_o it_o be_v contradictory_n to_o origen_n and_o celsus_n and_o to_o the_o practice_n of_o those_o egyptian_n he_o mention_n origen_n acknowledge_v 4._o object_n p._n 361._o §_o
say_v he_o set_v down_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n as_o it_o stand_v record_v in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n what_o that_o council_n teach_v be_v that_o it_o be_v good_a and_o profitable_a for_o christian_n humble_o to_o invocate_v the_o saint_n and_o to_o have_v recourse_n to_o their_o prayer_n aid_n assistance_n whereby_o to_o obtain_v benefit_n of_o god_n by_o his_o son_n our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n who_o be_v our_o only_a redeemer_n and_o saviour_n these_o be_v the_o very_a word_n of_o the_o council_n and_o any_o man_n but_o of_o common_a reason_n will_v think_v it_o be_v as_o easy_a to_o prove_v snow_n to_o be_v black_a as_o so_o innocent_a a_o practice_n to_o be_v idolatry_n even_o heathen_a idolatry_n answ_n that_o the_o reader_n may_v see_v what_o disingenuity_n be_v here_o insinuate_v it_o be_v sufficient_a only_a to_o advertise_v he_o that_o we_o do_v not_o accuse_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n as_o guilty_a of_o idolatry_n for_o hold_v what_o she_o deliver_v in_o the_o word_n now_o cite_v but_o for_o hold_v what_o she_o insinuate_v in_o the_o word_n which_o follow_v and_o which_o t._n g._n thought_n most_o convenient_a to_o conceal_v viz._n that_o every_o person_n may_v pray_v unto_o they_o and_o that_o not_o only_o with_o vocal_a but_o with_o mental_a prayer_n and_o for_o enjoin_v the_o sick_a to_o pray_v with_o his_o heart_n when_o he_o can_v do_v it_o with_o his_o mouth_n o_o all_o you_o saint_n intercede_v for_o i_o and_o succour_v i_o what_o we_o teach_v say_v he_o and_o do_v in_o this_o matter_n be_v to_o desire_v the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n to_o pray_v for_o we_o as_o we_o desire_v the_o prayer_n of_o one_o another_o upon_o earth_n and_o must_v we_o for_o this_o be_v compare_v to_o heathen_n do_v we_o not_o profess_v to_o all_o the_o world_n that_o we_o look_v upon_o the_o saint_n not_o as_o god_n but_o as_o the_o friend_n and_o servant_n of_o god_n that_o be_v as_o just_a man_n who_o prayer_n therefore_o be_v available_a with_o he_o where_o then_o lie_v the_o heathenism_n where_o lie_v the_o idolatry_n answ_n it_o lie_v in_o pray_v to_o they_o with_o mental_a prayer_n and_o in_o pray_v to_o their_o when_o they_o be_v as_o distant_a as_o be_v earth_n from_o heaven_n 353._o p._n 353._o but_o say_v t._n g._n the_o question_n at_o present_a between_o dr._n stillingfleet_n and_o the_o church_n of_o of_o rome_n 353._o p._n 353._o be_v not_o whether_o divine_a worship_n be_v to_o be_v give_v to_o the_o saint_n but_o whether_o a_o inferior_a worship_n of_o the_o like_a kind_n with_o that_o which_o be_v give_v to_o holy_a man_n upon_o earth_n for_o their_o holiness_n and_o near_a relation_n to_o god_n may_v not_o be_v lawful_o give_v to_o they_o 389._o p._n 389._o now_o they_o be_v in_o heaven_n and_o again_o we_o pray_v no_o otherwise_o to_o they_o than_o we_o do_v to_o holy_a man_n upon_o earth_n though_o more_o devout_o upon_o the_o account_n of_o their_o unchangeable_a estate_n of_o bliss_n answ_n this_o he_o do_v frequent_o affirm_v but_o till_o he_o can_v produce_v some_o instance_n of_o this_o practice_n of_o pray_v only_o with_o mental_a prayer_n to_o any_o man_n alive_a or_o of_o petition_n vocal_a direct_v unto_o live_a person_n at_o so_o great_a a_o distance_n his_o affirmation_n can_v be_v no_o better_o than_o a_o manifest_a untruth_n but_o this_o be_v a_o peculiar_a topick_n of_o which_o all_o those_o who_o vain_o do_v endeavour_v to_o excuse_v this_o idol_n worship_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v force_v to_o make_v use_n of_o viz._n to_o affirm_v her_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n not_o to_o be_v what_o certain_o it_o be_v and_o thence_o conclude_v she_o not_o to_o be_v guilty_a of_o that_o crime_n which_o can_v not_o be_v deny_v without_o this_o artifice_n again_o the_o question_n between_o we_o 173._o §_o 10._o p._n 173._o say_v the_o dr._n be_v not_o how_o far_o such_o wish_n rather_o than_o prayer_n be_v think_v allowable_a be_v utter_v occasional_o as_o st._n austin_n do_v this_o in_o st._n cyprian_n but_o whether_o solemn_a invocation_n of_o saint_n in_o the_o duty_n of_o religious_a worship_n as_o it_o be_v now_o practise_v in_o the_o roman_a church_n 44●_n p._n 44●_n be_v ever_o practise_v in_o st._n augustine_n time_n here_o t._n g._n represent_v he_o as_o a_o very_a shuffler_n and_o most_o rhetorical_o cry_v out_o alas_o that_o so_o many_o learned_a man_n shall_v all_o this_o while_o have_v be_v mistake_v in_o the_o question_n that_o they_o shall_v have_v spend_v so_o much_o oil_n and_o sweat_n to_o no_o purpose_n the_o question_n hitherto_o controvert_v between_o catholic_n and_o protestant_n be_v hold_v to_o be_v whether_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o invocate_v the_o saint_n to_o pray_v for_o we_o and_o whether_o this_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a time_n but_o now_o like_o a_o mischievous_a card_n that_o will_v spoil_v the_o hand_n this_o be_v drop_v under_o the_o table_n and_o all_o the_o show_n aboveboard_n be_v 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