merit of the Saints If all this were true and euidently cleere out of Scripture yet will it not follow that wee therefore may pray to them For prayer is a part of Gods worship to bee made onely to God as precepts dobindlys the patterne of all true right praying directeth and holy mens examples doe teach vs So this answer might suffice Yet that their proofes from Scripture may not deceiue the vnconsiderate I wil produce the places for all foure and make answer thereunto I. Scriptures obiected That Angels pray in particular for vs answered Zach. 1. 12. And the Angell of the Lord answered and said O Lord of Hosts how long wilt thou not haue mercy on Ierusalem and on the Cities of Iudah c Answ 1. This was a vision in the night to the Prophet verse 8. and chap. 4. 1. and so an extraordinarie thing and being so and also but a representation for the present to instruct the Prophet a reall and ordinarie act cannot bee concluded from thence Secondly these words are not a Prayer but a kinde of enquirie after the Lords purpose touching the future estate of the Church that he might enforme the Prophet thereof as by the present ensuing answer may appeare in verse 13. and the charge giuen to make the same knowne to the Church verse 14 15. for her comfort in restoring her to glory and peace verse 16 17. Thirdly grant it a Prayer it will not proue that Angels pray for vs because this Angell is not a created Angell but Iesus Christ who is often called in the Old Testament an Angell as before is shewed And that this Angell is so to bee taken is euident For first the Prophet calleth this Angell his Lord vers 9. chap. 4. 4 5. Secondly the Text calleth him the Lord and maketh this Angell and the Lord all one verse 19 20 21. Thirdly to this Angell the other gaue an account verse 11. Fourthly before this Angell stood Iosua the High Priest chap. 3. 1 3. and he is called the Lord verse 2. The Lord said vnto Satan The Lord rebuke thee Satan Tobie 12. 12. I did bring the remembrance of your prayers before the holy One Answ 1. He that is here brought in for an Angell of God in chap. 5. 12. told no better then a lye for he said he was Azarias the sonne of Ananias a mortall mans sonne He could not then be an Angell or if an Angell a lying one And as hee made a lye therein so might he doe in this chap. 12. 12 15. Secondly this place doth not proue that Angels pray for vs. For he saith not that he prayed for them but if the lyer may be beleeued he brought their prayers vnto Gods remembrance and presented them vers 15. as one taking a Petition of another man to present it to a King he is the presenter of it but not the Petitioner Thirdly this Booke is Apocrypha and suspected of idle fables such as learned Papists doe meanely esteeme of Reu. 8. 4. And the smoake of the Incense which came with the prayers of the Saints ascended from the hand of the Angell before God Answ 1. Here is no created Angell but Iesus Christ which is cleere by these reasons First from the allusion to the Priests office seruing at the Altar who was a type not of a created Angell but of Christ Heb. 9. 11. Then from the place where this Angell stands which was at the Altar to offer vpon the golden Altar which was before the Throne but the Angels are in the out circuit of the Church chap. 5. 11. as her guard to keepe her Psal 34. 7. Secondly it is not said that hee offered vp the Saints prayers but he offered vp Incense with their prayers It accompanied the Saints prayers verse 4. and the smoake of the Incense ascended vp with the prayers of the Saints Christs Spirit goeth with the prayers of the Saints like Incense and the vehemencie thereof teaching vs to pray with groanes that cannot bee expressed Rom. 8. is like smoke ascending vp before God or the Incense is Christs own intercession the smoake the efficacie thereof accompanying the Saints prayers vnto God for when wee pray he then prayeth for vs. Thirdly most of the Papists which doe write vpon this Text doe hold this Angell to be Christ Peter Bullenger Thom. Aquin. Rich. de Sancto victore Haymo Dion Carthus Viegas and many other This is nothing then for Angels praying for vs. Dan. 8. 15. When I Daniel had seene the vision c. and chap. 9. 20 21. while I was speaking in Prayer c. Answ 1. The former Text speakes nothing at all of any Angels praying but of the Angels instructing Daniel at Gods commandement chap. 8. 16 17. This was also a vision in a deepe sleepe verse 18. From whence Doctrines of Faith are not to be concluded but soundly to be taught from the literall sense of other holy Scriptures II. The latter Text sheweth that Daniel praying to God chap. 9. 20. the Angell of the Lord was sent to him verse 21. but no mention of any prayer made by the Angell for him Whether Angels pray for vs the Scripture teacheth not If wee yeeld that they doe it followes not that we should pray to See D. White his last booke in answer to Luk. 15. 10. pag. 315 316. to 1. Cor. 4. 9. pag. 317. them The Angels are sent out by God for vs they are often with vs they are helpers and by comming and going at Gods bidding they doe know our affaires here But should wee therefore pray to them it is a part of Gods worship and Angels themselues as before is proued forbid to be worshipped II. Scriptures obiected to proue that Saints departed know what is here done on earth answered Luk. 16. 29. They haue Moses and the Prophets let them heare them Answ 1. It is a Parable and a thing supposed onely not a literall History For after the very letter some things in this Parable cannot be true and therefore they cannot hence conclude a Doctrine as out of a Historie If this place will serue for Saints knowledge from Abraham how can the Papists looke on this Text hindring the people from the Scripture When first Abraham exhorts to the hearing of Moses and the Prophets Secondly denyeth the sending of the dead to instruct as Papists haue beene instructed for their feigned Purgatorie Thirdly he affirmeth that they which will not heare the Scriptures written by Moses and the Prophets will not beleeue such as rise from the dead Thus he confirmeth the authoritie of the Scriptures against wandring visions apparitions Secondly the Papists say that before Christs Ascension Abraham and the rest of the Patriarks were in the place called Limbus patrum How could Abraham know what was done in Earth when he was in the prison Perhaps by enquirie made of other Soules which came thither how the Church did and what other meanes of instruction she had then
keepe and attend sheepe in the Countrey my furniture is rather the Crooke and Scripp then the Sword or Sling Yet if wilde beasts range and rauage among our flocks we are awaked to stretch forth our hands and rescue our Lambs And well may wee answer with Dauid Thy seruant kept his fathers 1. Sam. 17. 34. Sheâ—pe and there came a Lyon and likewise a Beare and tooke a Sheepe out of the Flocke and I went out after him and smote him and tooke it out of his mouth Plaine Shepheardly Dauid had he trusted in his owne strength and not rather in the goodnesse of his cause being Gods quarrell might easily haue been discouraged not onely by the braues and threats of the Philistine but much more by the checks and snappes of his elder brother Eliab who perhaps being better furnished with abilities both for warre and for Court thought to frowne his rurall brother out of the field But God is pleased to aduance his truth and cause the rather by plaine and weake meanes For my part nothing hath moued me to this encounter but the zeale of Gods truth and desire to instruct the meaner sort and establish our lesse learned Christian brethren As for curiosities and subtill contemplations I leaue them vnto others or rather to be left of all others so farre as they tend to engendring of strife among our selues and preiudice to our Church And accordingly in pressing the passages of Scripture and vindicating the same from violent and absurd interpretations I haue laboured to deliuer the plaine true and natiue exposition arising out of the literall sense and naturall context together with the circumstances thereof Which manner of interpretation as most sound and solid hath in all ages and will find approbation with the iudicious As for the stile and words of Scriptures I desire as this aduersarie dealt with vs by way of repercussion so to repay him in coine of his owne stampe and therefore I still pleade out of their owne vulgar English Translation of the whole Bible written and perfited by the Seminary Priests at Rhemes as appeareth by the first words of their Preface to the New Testament printed there Though the other part thereof being the old Testament was afterward printed at Doway and thereupon is commonly called the Doway Bible The Rhemists Priests for making any Translation at all of the Bible into the English tongue though out of the vulgar Latine though obscured by affected phrases and distorted by their corrupt Annotations yet are said to haue bin beshrewed by their owne more subtile Masters and Superiours as hauing thereby layed open to the people the nakednesse and deformitie of their Romish doctrines And therefore haue I the more willingly produced the same against themselues the power and lustre of Gods Word though clouded and disguised by their purposed obscuritie and improprieties yet competently shining forth for their conuiction by this vnwilling wounding of Rome by the out-workes of Rhemes Vnto the places cited out of their Bible I haue added not onely sutably to the Gaggers proofes the testimonies of diuers ancient Fathers and Doctours of the Church but also for ouer-measure the consent of diuers moderne Writers very passable and laudable in the Romish Church Lastly in handling this Popish Gagg varyed and furbished in diuers Editions I thought it not worth the while to goe thorow euery particular question some being friuolous or of small moment or weake and naked enough of themselues but haue rather chosen to insist vpon those which are most pertinent and weightie The discussing whereof might tend to seasonable edification The iudgement of which my poore labours I humbly submit to our Reuerend and blessed Mother the Church of England And so Christian Reader I commit my endeuours to thy charitable acceptation and withall desire to haue my part in thy deuout and brotherly prayers resting Thine in the Lord R. B. The Contents of this Counter-Gagg Three Principles premised for deciding Controuersies THere is one onely Rule of Faith page 1. 2. This Rule is and euer hath beene the Word of God p. 3. 3. This Word of God is now no where to be found but onely in the Holy Scriptures p. 6. Principal popish errors refuted in this Counter Gag by expresse Texts of the approued English-Rhemish Bible as also by Testimonies of Antiquity and of their owne Writers 1. That the holy Scriptures are not the only Rule of our Faith and life in all matters necessary to saluation p. 13. 2. That the Scriptures are imperfect insufficient to instruct vs in all things necessary to saluation p. 21. 3. That the Scriptures be obscure and hard to be vnderstood euen in things necessary p. 29. 4. That the Script doe not interpret themselues and that the true sence may not be fetched out of themselues p. 40. 5. That the Scriptures are not to be allowed to be read of the people nor heard by them in a knowne tongue p. 44. 6. That the common liberty for all to reade the Scriptures doth breed heresies p. 50. 7. That the Scriptures cannot of themselues be knowne to be the Word of God vnlesse the Church doe giue witnesse vnto them that they are so p. 53. 8. That Traditions which they call the vnwritten Word are the Rule of Faith p. 60. 9. That the present Churches determination is the absolute vnquestionable Rule of the peoples faith on which they are to rest beleeuing their teachers without farther inquiry p. 70. 10. That the Church is no where in Scripture taken for the Inuisible Church p. 77. 11. That the Church is euer gloriously conspicuous in the world p. 79. 12 That the Church cannot erre p. 88. 13. That the Church of Rome cannot erre p. 106. 14. That the Bishop of Rome cannot erre p. 109. 15. That Councels may not erre being confirmed by the Pope 115. 16. That the Church of Rome is the Catholike Church p. 120. 17. That the Church of Rome hath euer bin in perfect vnity within it selfe p 127. 18. That Saint Peter was Prince of the Apostles and had a primacy of power and authority aboue all the other Apostles p. 130. 19. That Saint Peter was Head of the Church p. 137. 20. That Peter was the onely Vicar of Christ heere vpon earth p. 152. 21. That the publike Seruice of the Church ought not to be in a vulgar and knowne tongue p. 155. 22. That Images are to be in Churches that not only for instruction but also to be adored p. 159. 23. That the Lords Supper is to bee administred to the people in one kind onely p. 170. 24. That these words This is my body are to be taken literally without any figure the Bread being transubstantiate and Christ there corporally the substance of Bread being taken away and Christs true Body in the roome thereof though the accidents of Bread remaine p. 177. 25. That Prayers are to be made to Saints departed and Angels p. 183. Scriptures obiected for
of the Sacrament as before is proued in the former question Mat. 26. 26. Take eate this is my body Luk. 22. 19. This is my body which is giuen for you Answ 1. I haue before proued that these words are spoken in an vsuall Sacramentall phrase figuratiuely and not properly Secondly they cannot be spoken but figuratiuely because Christ himselfe spake these words He willed them not to eate his naturall body which body was visible before them Had he his owne body in his hand and euery one of his Twelue Apostles the same in their mouthes then were there thirteene bodies of Christ at one time at the table twelue in their hands and mouthes and one sitting apparantly before their eyes One body cannot be in so many places at once as before I haue proued And what a little body must this be which Christ held in his owne hand which he did breake and which euery of the Apostles did put in their mouthes Thirdly The words must needs bee figuratiuely vnderstood now if we consider the time when Christ spake them to wit before his Passion when as yet his body was not giuen nor his bloud shed Fourthly Christ spake figuratiuely when hee deliuered the shop Mat. 26. 28. Then why more properly in the one then in the other Fiftly The end of Christs instituting this Sacrament shewes it to bee figuratiuely spoken For it was for a remembrance of him Luk. 22. 19. But if this vpon the words of consecration had beene his very owne bodie it could not be called properly a remembrance of him for wee remember by signes things absent and not things themselues present for so the signes were needlesse 1. Cor. 10. 16. The cup of blessing which we blesse is it not the communion of the bloud of Christ The bread which wee breake is it not the communion of the body of Christ 1. Cor. 11. He that eateth and drinketh vnworthily eateth and drinketh iudgement to himselfe not discerning the Lords body Answ 1. Here is no proofe for transubstantiation but that the Bread is Christs body and the Wine his bloud by the receiuing whereof wee receiue Christs very body and bloud But how Sacramentally spiritually by faith and such as come not prepared to this holy Sacrament as they ought eate and drinke vnworthily not making a difference of this bread and wine representing Christ from common bread and wine or a common banquet which is a grieuous sinne All this wee doe acknowledge neither doe we deny the bread to be the bodie of Christ or the wine his bloud but yet euer in a Sacramentall speech figuratiuely and not properly For if the signe be the very thing signified indeed then were there no Sacrament for it is an outward signe of an inuisible grace Now there being as is proued no transubstantiation then it followes that there is no adoration of the Sacrament in that respect nor therein offered any vnbloudy sacrifice for the quicke and the dead XXV Proposition That prayers are to be made vnto Angels and Saints departed Confuted by their owne Bible 1. FOr Angels their owne Bible telleth vs that the Angels themselues forbid worship to be done to them Reu. 19. 10. and 22. 9. And so Saint Paul taught that they should not be worshipped Col. 2. 18. Now prayer to them is worshipping of them and that in a great degree Secondly for Saints departed the Virgin Mary or any other they are not to bee prayed vnto for they know not our particular estates here Abraham hath not knowne vs and Israel hath beene ignorant of vs Esa 63. 16. The dead know nothing more Eccles 9. 5. Iob. cap. 14. 21. speaking of the dead saith Whether his children shall be noble or vnnoble he shall not vnderstand How vaine is it then to pray to them Touching either Angels or Saints their Bible alloweth vs not to pray vnto them I. It teacheth euery where wheresoeuer there is either a commandement to pray or an example of any holy man of God praying that the same is made vnto God For commandement Psal 49. 15. Inuocate me in the day of trouble who is very ready to heare Esay 64. 24. Mat. 11. 28. Come vnto me saith Christ and promiseth them that come vnto him that hee will not cost forth Iob. 6. 37. Iames saith Aske of God chap. 1. 5. There is no commandement to pray to any other in all the Scripture For examples Abraham called vpon the Name of the Lord so Isaac Iacob Moses Iosua Samuel Dauid and all the rest No instance can be giuen to the contrary in either precept or example II. The Apostles desired to be taught to pray Luk. 11. Now Christ in his perfect forme of Prayer taught them and in them all vs to pray aright And it is against praying to Saints and Angels in the Preface Our Father which art in Heauen First this is against all Shee Saints for we cannot call the Virgin Marie nor any woman-Saint Father Secondly this is against all Angels for they bee not our Fathers but Fellow-seruants as they confesse Reuel 19. 10. Thirdly this is against all hee-Hee-Saints departed for they be our Brethren and in Heauen but one Father Matth. 23. 8 9. In the Petitions which Christ willeth vs to pray for they cannot be made to any of them We cannot say to them Hallowed be thy Name Thy Kingdome come Thy will be done in Earth as it is in Heauen Can we say to them Giue vs this day our daily bread Forgiue vs this day our trespasses Leade vs not into temptation but deliuer vs from euill In the conclusion for may wee ascribe to them and say Thine is the Kingdome the power and the glory for ouer Amen Now if we cannot aske of them these things nor ascribe to them kingdome power and glory without horrible idolatrie and sacriledge then either Christ taught not sufficiently in this Prayer to whom and what to pray for or else if he did then no Saints or Angels are to be prayed vnto III. Their Bible maketh onely Christ the meanes betweene God and vs For first it telleth vs but of one Mediatour One God and also one Mediatour of God and men 1. Timoth. 2. 5. Who this one is it also telleth vs euen the Man Christ Iesus 1. Timoth. 2. 5. And further teacheth that he is our Mediatour both of redemption Heb. 9. 12. and of intercession Rom. 8. 34. Heb. 7. 25. neither doth their Bible make any other Mediatour in either of these respects vnto God for vs saue Iesus Christ alone Secondly their Bible telleth that no man commeth to the Father but by Christ Ioh. 14. 6. Thirdly that we haue a promise to be heard if wee aske the Father in his Name Ioh. 16. 23. Fourthly that Christ foreshewed that his Disciples should aske and pray his Father in his Name Ioh. 16. 26. Fifthly their Bible exhorts vs therefore to goe to him Heb. 13. 13. to offer vp our prayses and so our prayers by him Heb.
and the Angell of God keepe you company Answ 1. This Booke is Apocryphall and therefore is not of force to confirme a Doctrine of faith Secondly this power of Tobie is made to God and not directed to the Angell Hee prayeth God to prosper his iourney and for this end he desireth that Gods Angell might bee sent with them to keepe them company which we also may and doe pray for in such a case For the Angels haue charge ouer vs to keepe and defend vs in our wayes and godly courses Osea 12. 4. He had power ouer the Angell c. Hee made supplication to him Answ 1. This Angell was the Lord for it is said hee found him in Bethel Now that Angell was God Gen. 31. 11 13. and 28. 13. 35. 9 10. and euen in Hosea 12. verse 5. hee the same is said plainely to be The Lord God of Hosts Song of the three Children verse 36. O yee Angels of the Lord blesse ye the Lord c. Answ 1. This is Apocrypha Here is no praying to Angels for as they speake to Angels so in like manner they say O yee Sunne and Moone O yee Starres and light And so O yee winds fire and heat Winter and Summer c. And therefore by the like reason all these are to bee prayed vnto and so should wee be worse then Heathen Idolaters II. The words expresse a duty of their blessing and praising of God which they are to performe to God and not a word of any thing that they are requested to doe for vs. Numb 22. 34. Balaam said to the Angell I haue sinned c. Answ I. This Balaam was a Witch Is this a good instance Fit enough for a Romish Balaamite II. Here is no Prayer made but a confession of sinne III. This Angell Balaam said was the Lord. Compare verse 35. with verse 38. And when the Angell verse 35. said to Balaam onely the word that I shall speake vnto thee that shalt thou speake the Text in chap. 23. 4 5. saith that God met him and the Lord put a word into his mouth so verse 16. Gen. 19. 18 19 20. Oh not so my Lord. Answ Lot here prayed not to a created Angell it is cleare For first the Angell which spake to Lot thus I haue accepted of thee I will not destroy this Citie speakes as hauing authoritie in himselfe Secondly hee is called the Lord verse 24. The Lord rained from the Lord. For praying to Saints Luk. 16. 24. Father Abraham haue mercy on me c. Answ I. This is a Parable and the letter is not to bee vrged beyond the scope of the Parable which is not to teach vs to pray to Saints II. Their owne men say that vnder the Law as is before shewed there was no praying to Saints And Bellarmine giueth the reason according to his owne faith because they were not as yet in heauen III. This is an example of a damned man who flyeth with horrour from the presence of God who cals not vpon God Can this be a patterne for Gods Church to follow IV. This Parable speakes of Diues and Abraham as within eyesight and hearing one of another though diuided by a gulfe of separation What is this thē to vs on earth to petition Saints in heauen whom we see not nor cannot certainly tell that they doe heare vs to giue answer againe as Abraham doth here to Diues V. The example is not of one here on earth praying to one in Heauen as the proofe ought to be but of one soule to another both departed this life Iob 5. 1. Call now if there bee any that will answer thee and to which of the Saints wilt thou turne Answ I. Eliphas exhorts not Iob to pray vnto any Saint but reproues Iobs not well-demeaning himselfe towards God in his afflictions by so iustifying himselfe as if there were no iust cause with God thus to deale with him And to let him fee how herein hee did amisse he willeth him to consider the examples of the Saints in affliction whether they did so behaue themselues and he implyeth that none did so nor carried themselues as he did II. Their expounding it of praying to Saints hath no ground hence For first the interrogation implyeth a negation that none of the Saints would answer neither would Iob turne to any of them to haue answer from them Secondly here is no example of inuocation And if Eliphaz words be vrged as a precept what warrant had he to impose it on Iob or we so to receiue it from him For he was no Prophet sent of God to teach Iob. And the text telleth vs that Gods wrath was kindled against him for that he spake not of God the thing which was right as Iob did Iob 42. 7. Thirdly if the words of Eliphaz be vrged not as a new precept but as an exhortation to that which was then in practice why doth Bellarmine and other say that before Christ no prayers were made to Saints departed and why doe they alledge places out of the Old Testament herein fighting against themselues Gen. 48. 16. Let my name be named on them Answ Iacob here willeth not to bee prayed vnto after death for none of his posteritie euer so did but hee adopteth Iosephs children as his owne and so to be called that is that Ephraim and Manasses should be called the sonnes of Iacob or children of Israel The like phrase is so to bee taken Esa 4. 1. Rom. 15. 30. Heb. 13. 18 19. Iob 42. 8. Gen. 20. and other places where one is to pray for another Answ I. These places are spoken of one praying for another in this life and not of any praying to Saints departed From the liuing to the dead it followeth not For men liuing do acquaint one another with their estates and so they haue certaine knowledge thereof but it is not so betweene the liuing and the dead It is very vncertaine whether these heare and know what is asked of them II. There are for this dutie pregnant precepts and liuely examples euery where in Scripture but none such for the other III. The Scripture doth witnesse the fruitful effect of prayers made here one for another As Moses his prayers for the Israelites at the Red Sea in fighting against Amalek and at other times So Isaiah his prayer for Ierusalem for ouerthrow of Sennacheribs Host and so of many others But the Scripture no where witnesseth any effect at all of the prayers of the dead for any thing here on earth IV. This praying is mutuall one for another as we pray others to pray for vs so others desire our prayers for them But the departed desire not ours for them neither need they our prayers They alledge other Scriptures to proue First that Angels pray for vs. Secondly that Saints departed know what passeth on the earth Thirdly that they doe pray particularly for vs. Fourthly that wee may beseech God to grant our Petitions in fauour and
praying to Angels answered 187. Saints pag. 189. Scriptures obiected 1. That Angels pray in particular for vs. p. 129. answered 2. That Saints departed know what is here done on earth p. 194. 3. That the Saints departed doe pray for vs particularly p. 179. 4. That we may pray to haue our petitions granted in fauour merits of the Saints departed p. 201. 26. That Confession commonly called Auricular or Sacramentall is of necessity p. 203. 27. That there is a place commonly called Purgatory into which soules after the dissolution of the body doe goe wherein as in a prison such as here haue not satisfied by temporall paine due for sinnes do make satisfaction in suffering hellish torment it is vncertaine how long p. 211. 28. That good workes do merit and are the cause of our saluation p. 231. Of free will and the strength thereof p. 245. 29. That mans will hath a naturall power in it selfe co-working with Gods grace in the very first instant act of a sinners Conuersion to which actiuity of the will such conuersion in part is to be attributed p. 247. 30. That some sinnes are in their owne nature veniall and doe not deserue eternall punishment p. 259. Of keeping Gods Commandements p. 269. 31. That a regenerate man by assistance of Gods grace is able to keepe all and euery Commandement of God in euery part at all times in thought word and deede perfectly as God in his Law requireth of him p. 270. Scriptures obiected for works of supererogation answered p. 279. Of Iustification by Faith only p. 284. 32. That a man is not iustified before God by faith onely p. 286. 33. That no true beleeuer particularly can in this life be certaine of his saluation without a miracle or extraordinary reuelation p. 293. That the faith of the Elect once had cannot be vtterly lost p. 310. Places of Scripture obiected that Iustifying faith once had may be lost a true beleeuer finally perish And therefore no certaine assurance of saluation The same places answered p. 317. CERTAINE POSITIONS CONCERNING THE RVLE OF FAITH as a Preface before the handling of the ensuing questions betweene vs and our Aduersaries the Papists I. Position There is one and but one onely rule of our Christian faith THis euen their owne Bible of Doway and Rhemes teacheth it doth not make mention of rules but speakes euer singularly as of one rule Rom. 12. 6. Gal. 6. 16. and of the same rule Phil. 3. 16. Seeing also that there is but one God one Lord one Spirit one body or Church one Faith one Hope one Baptisme Ephes 4. 4 5. 1. Cor. 12. 4 5 6. how can there be more then one Rule The ancient Fathers speake of no more then one as afterwards shall be shewed And reason may tell vs that a competent rule can be but only one to that whereof it is a rule the same also an entire and perfect rule and not partiall or a rule onely in part For if the rule be not one but two for one and the same thing then they must either agree and so are they but one entire or else they differ if so in any thing then cannot they be both rules for one and the same thing For then res regulata the thing ruled must differ from it selfe in being framed to the difference of the rules betweene themselues now the rules disagreeing what can accord them or what can they agreeingly measure when they are themselues at odds If any one say that the one may be a rule to the other then there should be a rule of a rule and so run in infinitum whereof there is no certain knowledge and so no sure rule for any thing If it be granted as needs it must that a rule is onely one and that there cannot be either two rules for one thing or a rule of a rule yet perhaps it will be said that one and the same rule may haue two parts whereof neither part is a perfit rule of it selfe but both together make a full rule But this cannot be For if it bee a rule in part then is it imperfect and needs a supply but an imperfit rule there is not be it neuer so short For suppose an inch or an halfe inch rule yet is it as true as full and as perfit a rule as truly measuring that to which it is laid as the rule of an ell long though it cannot measure so much at once Therefore say the learned that a rule is a â—avâ—â—us Theo pâ—â—lact in Phil. cap. 3. Phocius apud Occumâ—n in ◠〈◊〉 3. measure which doth not deceiue which admitteth neither of addition or detraction neither of putting to nor taking from For put any thing saith another to a rule or take from it the rule is corrupted and is denied indeed to be a rule As for the parts of the same rule if any such were these parts must agree in euery thing and if they doe so then is either part the other fully and so the one of them sufficient and the other superfluous or if they agree not how can they be one rule for the same thing which of them can giue the euen measure Neither of them indeede by reason of their disagreement The deuice therefore of a rule in part is absurd and vnreasonable A piece of a rule is not a rule and a rule if it be at all a rule must be one and the same euer infallible in it selfe which if the ignorant doe handle vntowardly the fault is in the men and not in the measure II. Position This one Rule of our faith is onely Gods Word 1. FOr by the Word of God commeth faith Rom. 10. 14. in that respect it is called the Word of faith which the Apostles preached Rom. 10. 8. Now without the Word of God no faith no pleasing of God Heb. 11. 6. and so no true Religion therefore must it needs be the ground and rule thereof and â—i 3. ca. 10. de Verbo Dei Bellarmine saith that the Word of God is the first foundation of our faith 2. We are commanded of God to doe as he commandeth Deut. 5. 32 33. and 12. 32. Numb 15. 39 40. Ezech. 20. 19. Iosh 1. 7. Prou. 4. 2. and that we may know how strictly we are tyed to this Word wee are charged not to adde to it Deut. 12. 32. and 28. 14. nor to take from it Deut. 4. 2. Iosh 1. 7 Reuel 22. 18. lest that God reprooue vs and we be found liers Prou. 3. 6. neither are we to turne aside from it either to the right hand or to the left Deut. 5. 32. and when at any time we are in danger of turning aside this must bee our director to preserue vs from erring Isai 30. 31. 3. God from heauen hath said of Iesus Christ his Sonne This is my beloued Sonne in whom I am well pleased heare him Matth. 17 5. binding vs to his Word which is
the ground Let them proue to vs by Gods owne voice as here that their Images are holy and that Gods presence is in them And yet for all that will not this procure adoration to them no more then Moses adored the earth Fourthly this place if Images were holy should rather keep vs from them then make vs come to them For it is said Approach not or come not hither loose off thy shooes from thy feet for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground It s therefore rather against going to Images then to goe to worship them Adorâ—â—â—e the footstoole of his feet Vnderstood say they of the Arke 1. Chron. 28. 2. Which was worshipped of the Iewes in regard of the Images set vpon it Answ Vnderstanding this footstoole of the Arke as they say it will helpe nothing their worship of Images For first the Arke was of Gods own appointment to be made for manner matter and end Exod. 25. 9. but so bee not their Images Secondly the Arke is called his footstoole But Images are not so called neither claimeth he them for his Thirdly God promised his presence with the Arke Exod. 25. 22. But where is his promise to be with their Images Fourthly the Arke was not an Image What is this then to an Image Fiftly the Arke was in the most holy place into which none could enter but the High Priests Therefore the people could not adore it but a farre off as being in the out-Court without any sight thereof Now their Images are neere and in the peoples view and not only where the High Priest of Rome comes If they will haue Images as the Arke then let his High Priestship keepe them in his most holy Chappell for himselfe and let them be for him only as the most Holy was for the high Priest Sixtly by the Arkes being in so remote a place its cleere that the words must be translated Adore yee towards his footstoele as in 1. King 8. 44. Pray towards the holy Citie and the house which hee had chosen And then the Arke was not adored but God it being the signe of Gods presence before which they worshipped 1. Sam. 1. 19. Seuenthly if it was worshipped because of the Images vpon it then was it only worshipped in the Sanctum Sanctorum For there the Cherubims were spred ouer it and not elsewhere and then onely the High Priest adored it for he onely saw the Images ouer it And then this Text seemeth to speake not to all but to him What is this to the peoples worshipping of Images Eighthly and lastly it is vntrue to say the Iewes worshipped it because of the Images on it For first they neither did nor could euer see any Image vpon it Secondly wee reade of the Arke brought forth in their iourneyings in the wildernesse so in going ouer Iordan also into the Campe of Israel 1. Sam. 4. 5. and at other times but wee neuer read of any that did worship it But if this had beene a commandement here surely there would haue beene some example of adoring it Thirdly they were commanded to worship God Deut. 6. 13. 10. 20. but no where to worship any other thing Fourthly how could it be that they worshipped the Arke because of the Images vpon it when the angels which by the Images were represented were not adored of them Would they worship the Image and not the things themselues For as Origen saith No Contr. Cels lib. 5. man adored the heauenly Angels which did submit himselfe to the Law of Moses Phil. 2. 10. At the name of Iesus c. Answ 1. Here is no Image mentioned What is this to Saints worship and their Images For this Text speakes of Iesus our Lord Sauiour Christ because we must bow downe to him the Sonne of God one person God and Man when wee doe make mention of his name Will it follow therefore that we should doe so to dead Images XXIII Proposition That the Lords Supper is to be administred to the people in one kinde onely Confuted by their owne Bible 1. IT teacheth vs that Christ instituting this his last Supper administred it in both kinds giuing a commandement to take and eate and also to drinke Mat. 26. 26 27. Luk. 20. 20. Secondly the Apostle Saint Paul repeating the institution mentioneth both the Bread and the Chalice 1. Cor. 11. 24 25. And first he tels them that this hee receiued of the Lord. Secondly that he deliuered the same vnto them verse 23. Thirdly he in verse 28. plainely prescribeth the eating of the Bread and drinking of the Chalice and that to euery one that commeth prepared and proueth himselfe saying Let him eate of that bread and drinke of that Chalice Out of which place it is euident that the drinking of the Chalice is of equall extent with the duty of prouing our selues before wee come vnto this Sacrament But the duty is generall and belongeth vnto all indifferently The drinking of the Chalice therefore may not be denied vnto any Thirdly the Church then in his dayes did receiue it in both kindes 1. Cor. 11. 26. For it is said there So often as you shall eate this bread and drinke this Chalice you shall shew the death of our Lord vntill hee come By both they shew his death And this place shews clearely that so often as they receiued they did eate the Bread and drinke the Chalice Fourthly the Apostles and Ministers of Christ did administer in both For the Apostle saith 1. Cor. 10. 16. The Chalice of benediction which we doe blesse is it not the communication of the bloud of Christ and the bread which wee breake is it not the participation of the body of the Lord Here the Apostle first mentioneth both the Chalice and Bread Secondly by the word we he vnderstands himselfe and other which did blesse the Chalice and breake the Bread Thirdly he saith that by the Chalice we communicate of Christs bloud and by the bread wee participate of his bodie and not by one of them of them both Saint Paul would haue Christs bloud out of his bodie in the Against concomitancy See D. White his last booke pag. 460 466. Chalice represented and not by the bread onely both his body and bloud Fourthly Christ is perfect food wee must therefore eate him and drinke him Drinke alone preserues not life nor onely to eate but both to eate and drinke therefore Christ instituted both to be receiued If the Aduersaries say that this receiuing was of the Apostles and as they by consequent would See an answer to this there also pag. 488 489 492. inferre of Priests onely which may receiue in both kindes but not the Laitie I answer first that the Apostles receiuing the Sacrament from Christ were then and there for the whole Church They receiued alone because they were Christs family to receiue together the Passeouer Secondly the Apostles were not as yet fully ordained till Christ breathed on them after
13. 15. for that hee is able to saue vs for euer Heb. 7. 25. and therefore to goe with confidence to the Throne of Grace Heb. 4. 16. for in him we haue affiance and accesse in confidence by the faith of him Ephes 3. 12. whom the Father euer heareth Ioh. 11. 42. IV. Their Bible teacheth vs that albeit we need and haue also a Mediatour betweene God and vs yet it is needlesse to make any Intercessour to Christ for he is one that hath compassion of our infirmities Heb. 4. 15. he commands vs to come to him Mat. 11. 28. and is alwayes liuing to make intercession for vs Heb. 7. 25. Seeing then he only is for vs to God and that we need none betweene him and vs not any Intercessour to an Intercessour the praying to Saints or Angels is a vaine shew of wisdome in superstition and humilitie in a will-worship which the Apostle condemneth Col. 2. 23. Lastly it is so farre from humilitie not to doe what God willeth vs to doe though it may seeme otherwise to our selues that it is to God grieuous Esay 7. 11 12 13. Ahaz was willed to aske a signe hee refused holding it to be a tempting of God but the Prophet reproueth him for it We are commanded to come to Christ In our conceits this is presumption but hauing a warrant so to do we sinne as Ahaz did and grieue the Lord in being ruled by our owne wisdome and not by Gods Word V. Their Bible teacheth that prayer can be made to none but to them in whom we must beleeue Ro. 10. 14. How shall they inuocate in whom they haue not beleeued Therefore except wee beleeue in them we cannot pray vnto them But to beleeue in any creature the same Bible forbiddeth and pronounceth them accursed which so doe Ier. 17. 5. And in our Creed wee are taught to beleeue in God and not in any creature as the Romane-Trent Catechisme teacheth in the Article of the Catholike Church VI. Their Bible teacheth that not onely the members of Gods Church prayed onely to God but also that the very Heathen themselues neuer prayed to any thing but what they held to be God Ion. 1. 5 6. The men cryed to their god vers 5. and the gouernor said to Ionah Inuocate thy God v. 6. Now Papists pray to them which they hold not to be gods and therefore herein by the witnesse of their owne Bible are more absurd then the Heathen And yet many of the common people are more dangerously stupid on the other side For they worship them for so many gods and put no difference betweene them and Christ Contraried by Antiquitie Epiphanius in pag. 447. Greeke The body of Mary was holy but it was not God and she was a glorious Virgin but not giuen vs to worship Ignatius in Epist ad Philad O ye Virgins haue before your eyes inlightened by the Spirit onely Iesus Christ and his Father in your prayers Origen cont Cels lib. 8. In one place he saith Onely by the guide of Christ we are brought to the Father And in another Christians make their prayers onely to God by Iesus Christ S. Austin confess lib. 10. cap. 43. speaking of Christ saith vnto God The true Mediator whom thy secret mercy hath made knowne to the humble is Iesus Christ the Mediatour of God and men And on Psal 69. If wee should worship the Angels saith hee wee should learne of themselues not to worship them The interlineall glosse on Esa 63. saith that Austin was of opinion that the Saints departed know not what the liuing do here in this world Ambrose D. obitu Theodos Thou Lord onely art to be inuocated Ierome ad Heliodor Epist 3. cap. 1. We ought to inuocate by prayer to call vnto vs none but God Nicephorus hist lib. 15. cap. 18 telleth vs that one Peter Fuller 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 fiue hundred yeeres after Christ Bishop of Antioch a Schismatike inuented the Inuocation of our Lady that shee should be named in all prayers If praying to her was so late what may be thought of praying to Saints See Chrysost hom 7. on Col. 2. Ambrose in Rom. 1. 5. pag. 177. The Greeke Scholiast pag. 697. Theodoret on Col. 2. pag. 776. Gainesaid by themselues Eckius Enchirid. cap. 15. confesseth that there is nothing expressely to be found in the Scriptures that Saints must be inuocated Bellarmine confesseth that the Saints in the time of the old Testament were not inuocated De Sanct. beatit cap. 19. And Salmeron saith that touching this matter there is nothing to be found in any of the Epistles 1. Tim. 2. Disp 2. Art 7. s prim This Suarez also acknowledgeth that before Christ not any man directly prayed to the Saints departed that they would helpe them or pray for them Tom. 2. in Tho. Disp 42. Sect. 1. pag. 434. Dom. Bannes 22. q. Art 10. pa. 170. saith that inuocation of Saints is neither expressely nor vnfoldedly taught in the holy Scriptures Tho. Aquinas in Reu. 8. verse 3. pag. 226. Christ saith hee not by another but by his owne selfe offereth the prayers of the iust to his Father and then addeth this reason For there is no other Mediatour He speakes here of Christ the Mediator of Intercession that there is no other Here had hee forgotten their distinction that the Saints are Mediatours of intercession Scriptures obiected answered For praying to Angels Gen. 48. 16. The Angell which redeemed mee from all euill blesse the Lads Answ 1. Iacob beginneth his Prayer to God verse 15. and addeth this Angell as equall with God for he saith God that feedeth The Angell that deliuereth blesse these children Where there is a continuall ioynt act of both as both being but one indeed For God as Esay saith wil giue his glory to none other And Dauid ascribes redeeming to the Lord Psal 31. 5. II. It is cleare that the Angell which deliuered Iacob was God Gen. 31. 11. where the Angell saith that hee is the God of Bethel verse 13. This is the Angell whom hee there prayed vnto to be deliuered chap. 32. 11. and here acknowledgeth to haue redeemed him III. Iacob prayeth that this Angell would blesse the children Now God onely giueth blessings Iam. 1. 17. Ioh. 3. 27. Psal 84. 11. 121. 1 2. and of God Iacob desired to bee blessed Gen. 32. 26. This Angell therefore was God and not a created Angell IV. If they will haue it a created Angell it may then be thus expounded The God that feedeth me the same God which by his Angell as his instrument deliuereth or redeemeth mee c. So as his inuocation is still to God though hee mentioneth the instrument by which God vsed to deliuer him For hee speakes here of redemption from euils and not of that which was wrought by Christ in the flesh except so farre forth as temporall deliuerances were types of this spirituall Tobie 5. 16. God which dwelleth in Heauen prosper your iourney
this life but such as were accounted as dead as going downe to the graue for so Baruch speakes to Israel verse 9 11. And hee speakes of such dead Israelites and their children which had sinned before God and had not hearkened to him verse 4. expressing their deserts worthy death Doe men aliue requesting God to heare for them the prayers of the dead vse to moue God with telling of the Saints sinnes and their rebellion against him Is this a Romish prayer Heare Lord the prayers of the dead for mee for they haue sinned against thee Will any be so madde to alledge such a reason Therefore Baruch makes confession of the liuing Israelites being then through distresse as dead men and beggeth pardon for them as followeth in verse 5. Fiftly their Doway Annotation on this place is this Men in sinnes and miseries are as if they were dead verse 11. yet by Gods mercy may receiue new grace of spirituall life They then take these for men aliue and not dead as this foolish Gagger doth Reu. 2. 26 27. This is answered before and nothing concerneth the prayers of the Saints departed Luk 16. Diues in hell prayed for his brethren on earth much more then will the Saints in heauen Answ 1. This is but a supposed speech a parable and therefore nothing thence to be gathered but as is intended in the scope of the Parable Secondly if there bee such all-knowing vision and all-helping charitie in Heauen it is maruell that in all the Scripture it should no where as clearely be mentioned as this charitie of one damned in hell Reuel 6. 9 10. And I saw vnder the Altar the soules c. and they cryed with a lowd voice How long Lord holy and true doest thou not iudge and auenge our bloud on them that dwell on the earth Answ 1. This was seene by Iohn in a vision and is not to bee interpreted according to the Letter to establish a doctrine of faith Secondly though it be taken after the letter yet here is no proofe that Saints pray for any in particular but for the Church militant in generall Thirdly their Prayer is not for other in the Church they intercede not for other but the request they make concerneth themselues Fourthly their cry is literally for iustice and reuenge vpon their enemies persecutors and sheaders of their bloud Doth mindfulnesse of iniuries remaine in Saints departed They then are lesse charitable then Saints on earth Steuen at his death prayed for his enemies This place proueth not that Saints departed pray particularly here for vs on earth but rather they pray against the enemies of the Church 2. Pet. 1. 15. I will endeuour after my decease to haue remembrance of these things Answ This is not meant by his intercession to God after death but of his then present and diligent writing to them while he was aliue whereby they might bee made to remember after his decease what hee had taught them by word of mouth or writing while he liued 1. King 2. 13 19. Adoniah had a suite to Solomon and used the helpe of Bathsheba to him Absalom vsed Ioabs intercession for him to Dauid 2. Sam. 14. So should we goe vnto God by Saints intercessors for vs. Answ 1. Similitudes are for illustration but doe not proue any thing especially thus detorted absurdly Secondly the case is not alike as betweene man and man so betweene God and vs in this case Hee is God and so euery where and not as man circumscribed in a place To man wee cannot speake when and where we would but to God wee may whose eyes and thoughts are not like to mans Esai 55. Man through pride will not or through carelesnesse regards not or through ignorance knowes not or through businesse is hindered so as hee cannot helpe such as come for helpe or his attendants about him may keepe Petitioners from him so as they cannot speake to him But there are no such lets in God The Simile therefore is not fit Thirdly this is voluntarie humilitie which caused the worship of Angels by certaine Heretikes which the Apostle condemneth Col. 2. 18. Fourthly wee need no Saints to goe to God for vs for wee haue appointed by God himselfe a Mediatour of intercession betweene God and vs his Sonne Iesus Christ by whom boldly with confidence we may goe to God Ephes 3. 12. Heb. 4. 16. 10. 22. 7. 25. Fiftly as for any to goe betweene Christ and vs wee neede it not For he is the Head and all wee the members of his bodie as well those in earth as those in heauen wee here on earth being as deare to him as those in heauen Hee sitteth in heauen to request for vs and is a most mercifull High Priest touched with our infirmities Heb. 4. 15. Therefore hee tooke our nature vpon him Heb. 2. 16. to be a faithfull and mercifull High Priest verse 17. Steuen made no meanes to him but prayed immediately to him Act. 7. 59 60. and so did Iohn Reuelation 22. 20 21. Christ willeth vs himselfe to come vnto him Math. 11. 28. And we reade not that any of the Apostles or holy men praying mentioned in Scripture did euer goe to Saint or Angell to make request for them Also to answer the Simile Is there any of vs hauing a great mans Command in all our needs to come to himselfe giuing his faithfull word and promise to heare our suites requests very readily at any time and none appointed by him to heare suiters when they come but onely himselfe attending mercifully in his owne person for vs in open place without let of any that would goe first to any of his seruants and not forthwith rather to himselfe with all gladnesse I appeale to mens owne hearts in this Lastly this putting of Saints betweene Christ and vs is to make an Intercessor and to hold Saints departed if wee were sure they could heare vs which yet is very vncertaine to bee more louing more tenderly affected toward vs then Iesus Christ himselfe who hath with his owne bloud bought both them and vs. Scriptures obiected that wee may pray to God to haue our Petitions granted in fauour and merit of Saints departed Exod. 32. 13. Remember Abraham Isaac and Israel thy seruants to whom thou swarest c. Answ 1. Here is no merit of Saints vrged Secondly their persons are mentioned by Moses not for their owne worthinesse but for the Couenant which by oath God confirmed to them which Couenant Moses vrgeth not their deserts For Moses speakes of Gods act to them but not a syllable of any thing that they either did or spake note it well 2. Chron. 6. 16. Keepe with thy seruant Dauid my Father that which thou hast promised Answ 1. Here is no word no worke of Dauid remembred and therefore no merit of his vrged Secondly that which Salomon alledgeth in his prayer it Gods promise made vnto Dauid So in 2. Chro. 1. 9. in 1. Chro.