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A72264 The touch-stone of the reformed Ghospell. Wherin sundry chiefe heads and tenets of the protestants doctrine (obiected by them commonly against the Catholicks) are briefly refuted. By the expresse texts of the protestants owne Bible, set forth and approued by the Church of England. With the ancient fathers Iudgments thereon, in confirmation of the Catholike Doctrine; Gagge of the new gospel Heigham, John, fl. 1639. 1634 (1634) STC 13033.8; ESTC S125239 50,830 222

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terrify_v i_o say_v he_o that_o think_v himself_o to_o stand_v let_v he_o take_v heed_n lest_o he_o fall_v s._n bern._n ser_n 3._o the_o advent_a &_o serm_n 1._o the_o septuage_n say_v who_o can_v say_v i_o be_o one_o of_o the_o elect_a etc._n etc._n xxvi_o that_o every_o man_n have_v not_o a_o angel_n guardian_n or_o keeper_n contrary_n to_o the_o express_a word_n of_o their_o own_o bible_n matt._n 18._o 10._o take_v heed_n that_o you_o despise_v not_o one_o of_o these_o little_a one_o for_o i_o say_v unto_o you_o that_o in_o heaven_n their_o angel_n do_v always_o behold_v the_o face_n of_o my_o father_n which_o be_v in_o heaven_n therefore_o they_o have_v their_o angell-keeper_n a_o thing_n so_o plain_a that_o john_n calvin_n dare_v not_o deny_v it_o although_o he_o will_v forsooth_o needs_o doubt_v of_o it_o lib._n 1._o inst_n cap._n 14._o sect_n 7._o psal_n 91._o we_o 90._o 11.12_o he_o shall_v give_v his_o angel_n charge_v over_o thou_o to_o keep_v thou_o in_o all_o thy_o way_n they_o shall_v bear_v thou_o up_o in_o their_o hand_n lest_o thou_o dash_v thy_o foot_n against_o a_o stone_n this_o very_a passage_n s._n cyrill_n of_o alexandria_n lib._n 4._o cont_n julian._n apply_v to_o our_o angell-keeper_n act_n 12.13_o etc._n etc._n s._n peter_n knock_v at_o the_o door_n they_o say_v it_o be_v his_o angel_n loe_o how_o apparent_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n appear_v concern_v this_o point_n see_v more_o 1._o cor._n 11.10_o zachary_n 3.10_o luc._n 15.10_o luc._n 16._o 22._o tob._n 5.15.20_o tob._n 12.12_o tob._n 5.27_o exod._n 23.23_o josue_n 5.13_o numb_a 22.22.31_o gen._n 24._o 40._o dan._n 6.22_o ¶_o see_v s._n greg._n dial_n l._n 4._o cap._n 58._o s._n athanas_n de_fw-fr communi_fw-la essentia_fw-la s._n chrysost_o hom_n 3._o in_o ep_n ad_fw-la colos_n lib._n 6._o the_o sacerd_v greg._n turonens_fw-la lib._n de_fw-fr gloria_fw-la mart_n s._n aug._n ep_n ad_fw-la probam_fw-la cap._n 9_o &_o epist_n 69._o ad_fw-la fratres_fw-la in_o eremo_fw-la lib._n 11._o cap._n 31._o civet_n s._n hierom._n upon_o these_o word_n their_o angel_n etc._n etc._n matt._n 18.10_o teach_v that_o it_o be_v a_o great_a dignity_n and_o marvellous_a benefit_n that_o every_o one_o have_v from_o his_o nativity_n a_o angel_n for_o his_o custody_n &_o patronage_n xxvii_o that_o the_o holy_a angel_n pray_v not_o for_o we_o nor_o know_v our_o thought_n and_o desire_n on_o earth_n contrary_n to_o the_o express_a word_n of_o their_o own_o bible_n zacharie_n 1.9.10.11.12_o then_o the_o angel_n of_o the_o lord_n answer_v and_o say_v o_o lord_n of_o host_n how_o long_o will_v thou_o not_o have_v mercy_n on_o jerusalem_n and_o on_o the_o city_n of_o juda_n against_o which_o thou_o have_v have_v indignation_n these_o threescore_o and_o ten_o year_n and_o what_o i_o pray_v you_o be_v a_o prayer_n if_o this_o be_v not_o therefore_o the_o holy_a angel_n pray_v for_o us._n tob._n 12.12_o now_o therefore_o when_o thou_o do_v pray_v and_o sara_n thy_o 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do_v s._n amb._n lib._n de_fw-fr viduis_fw-la victor_n vtic._n lib._n 3._o de_fw-la persecut_fw-la vandal_n xxviii_o that_o we_o may_v not_o pray_v to_o they_o contrary_n to_o the_o express_a word_n of_o their_o own_o bible_n gen._n 48.16_o the_o angel_n which_o redeem_v i_o we_o read_v deliver_v i_o from_o all_o evil_a bless_v these_o lad_n etc._n etc._n here_o some_o perhaps_o will_v say_v that_o this_o be_v god_n and_o not_o a_o angel_n this_o be_v but_o a_o sorry_a shift_n for_o god_n have_v not_o then_o redeem_v man_n but_o long_o afr_a yea_o this_o very_a passage_n be_v apply_v by_o s._n chrysost_n to_o our_o angel_n guardian_n hom_n 3._o upon_o the_o 1._o to_o the_o colos_n and_o by_o s._n hierome_n upon_o the_o 66._o of_o isa_n also_o s._n basil_n l._n 3._o cont_n eunom_fw-la affirm_v that_o this_o be_v speak_v of_o a_o true_a angel_n and_o not_o of_o god_n which_o be_v so_o who_o can_v with_o reason_n say_v he_o pray_v not_o unto_o he_o toby_n 5.16_o and_o when_o his_o son_n 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angel_n of_o god_n over_o one_o sinner_n that_o repent_v now_o what_o more_o plain_a than_o that_o the_o angel_n in_o heaven_n know_v what_o we_o do_v on_o earth_n which_o if_o they_o do_v not_o how_o can_v they_o rejoice_v at_o the_o conversion_n of_o a_o sinner_n therefore_o we_o may_v pray_v lawful_o unto_o they_o see_v more_o osee_n 12.4_o song_n of_o the_o three_o child_n vers_fw-la 36._o psal_n 148._o num._n 22.34_o gen._n 19.18_o &_o 20._o psal_n 148.2_o ¶_o s._n augustine_n expound_v those_o word_n of_o job._n 19.21_o have_v pity_n upon_o i_o have_v pity_n upon_o i_o o_o you_o my_o friend_n for_o the_o hand_n of_o god_n have_v touch_v i_o say_v express_o that_o holy_a job_n address_v they_o to_o the_o angel_n as_o also_o those_o other_o of_o job._n 5.1_o call_v now_o if_o there_o be_v any_o that_o will_v answer_v thou_o etc._n etc._n the_o same_o s._n aug._n expound_v of_o pray_v to_o angel_n in_o his_o annot._n upon_o job._n xxix_o that_o the_o angel_n can_v help_v us._n contrary_n to_o the_o express_a word_n of_o their_o own_o bible_n dan._n 10.13_o michael_n one_o of_o the_o chief_a prince_n come_v to_o help_v i_o which_o be_v further_o verify_v revel_v 12.7.10_o where_o the_o self_n same_o angel_n with_o his_o fellow-angell_n fight_v a_o battle_n with_o the_o dragon_n and_o with_o his_o angel_n therefore_o they_o can_v help_v us._n ibid._n verse_n 21._o and_o there_o be_v none_o that_o hold_v with_o i_o in_o these_o thing_n but_o michael_n your_o prince_n therefore_o the_o angel_n can_v help_v us._n act_n 12._o from_o verse_n 7._o to_o verse_n 12._o now_o i_o know_v of_o a_o surety_n that_o the_o lord_n have_v send_v his_o angel_n and_o have_v deliver_v i_o see_v more_o mat._n 2.13_o mat._n 4.6_o psal_n 91._o we_o 90._o 11.12_o act._n 5.19_o act._n 27.23_o psal_n 104._o we_o 103._o 4._o heb._n 1.7_o luc._n 16.22_o gen._n 19.10.15.16_o gen._n 21.17_o isa_n 63.9_o ¶_o the_o ancient_a father_n affirm_v the_o same_o s._n justin_n apol._n 2._o s._n 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elias_n talk_v with_o they_o therefore_o saint_n decease_v have_v afterward_o appear_v to_o some_o on_o earth_n matt._n 27.52_o and_o the_o grave_n be_v open_v and_o many_o body_n of_o saint_n which_o sleep_v arise_v and_o come_v out_o of_o the_o grave_n after_o his_o resurrection_n and_o go_v into_o the_o holy_a city_n and_o appear_v unto_o many_o etc._n etc._n 2._o mac._n 15.12_o onias_n the_o high_a priest_n after_o he_o be_v dead_a appear_v to_o judas_n machabaeus_n alive_a the_o like_a do_v samuel_n unto_o saul_n what_o shall_v we_o say_v then_o to_o those_o that_o will_v deny_v a_o truth_n to_o clear_v for_o some_o such_o myself_o have_v meet_v withal_o see_v more_o luc._n luc._n 16.27.28_o joan._n 11.44_o luc._n 7.15_o &_o 23._o mat._n 9.25_o marc._n 5.42_o ¶_o see_v s._n bede_n l._n 5._o cap._n 13._o hist_o of_o england_n s._n gregory_n in_o his_o book_n of_o moral_n in_o sundry_a place_n xxxi_o that_o the_o saint_n decease_v know_v not_o what_o pass_v here_o on_o earth_n contrary_n to_o the_o express_a word_n of_o their_o own_o bible_n luc._n 16._o 29._o where_o abraham_n know_v that_o there_o be_v moses_n and_o the_o prophet_n book_n here_o on_o earth_n which_o he_o himself_o have_v never_o see_v when_o he_o be_v alive_a as_o s._n aug._n witness_v lib._n the_o cura_fw-la pro_fw-la mortuis_fw-la cap._n 14._o therefore_o the_o saint_n decease_v know_v what_o pass_v here_o on_o earth_n john_n 5.45_o do_v not_o think_v that_o i_o will_v accuse_v you_o to_o the_o father_n there_o be_v one_o that_o accuse_v you_o even_o moses_n in_o who_o we_o trust_v but_o how_o can_v moses_n dead_o two_o thousand_o year_n before_o accuse_v those_o that_o be_v then_o live_v if_o the_o saint_n decease_v know_v not_o what_o pass_v here_o on_o earth_n like_o unto_o this_o be_v that_o revel_v 12.10_o and_o i_o hear_v a_o loud_a voice_n say_v in_o heaven_n etc._n etc._n the_o accuser_n of_o our_o brethren_n be_v cast_v down_o which_o accuse_v they_o before_o our_o god_n day_n and_o night_n now_o she_o devil_n can_v accuse_v man_n day_n and_o night_n before_o god_n but_o they_o must_v first_o know_v whereof_o who_o then_o will_v for_o shame_n deny_v that_o unto_o saint_n and_o angel_n which_o must_v needs_o be_v grant_v to_o the_o very_a devil_n 2._o king_n 6.12_o we_o 4._o king_n o_o king_n elisha_n the_o prophet_n that_o be_v in_o israel_n tell_v the_o king_n the_o of_o israel_n word_n that_o thou_o speak_v in_o thy_o bedchamber_n hence_o i_o thus_o argue_v if_o the_o light_n of_o prophecy_n can_v extend_v itself_o so_o far_o as_o to_o make_v know_v see_v and_o understand_v thing_n so_o secret_a yea_o even_o to_o inward_a thought_n who_o can_v with_o reason_n deny_v that_o the_o light_n of_o glory_n can_v do_v the_o same_o in_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o bless_a the_o like_a be_v prove_v out_o of_o many_o other_o place_n of_o holy_a scripture_n as_o 2._o reg._n 5.26_o where_o the_o prophet_n elizeus_fw-la be_v a_o far_o of_o see_v all_o that_o pass_v betwixt_o naaman_n and_o giesi_n his_o servant_n s._n paul_n be_v rapt_v into_o the_o three_o heaven_n and_o see_v that_o which_o be_v not_o to_o be_v tell_v to_o man_n 1_o cor._n 12._o s._n stephen_n see_v from_o earth_n christ_n sit_v at_o the_o right_a hand_n of_o his_o father_n act._n 7._o the_o rich-glutton_n see_v from_o hell_n to_o heaven_n as_o protestant_n confess_v how_o then_o say_v they_o that_o the_o saint_n can_v know_v or_o see_v from_o heaven_n to_o earth_n and_o without_o some_o reciprocal_a knowledge_n there_o can_v be_v no_o communion_n at_o all_o between_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n and_o the_o faithful_a on_o earth_n the_o which_o be_v a_o article_n of_o our_o creed_n which_o notwithstanding_o the_o continual_a passage_n of_o soul_n thither_o do_v convince_v see_v more_o matt._n 19.28_o revel_v 2.26_o luc._n 22.30_o acts._n 5.3.1_o king_n 28.14_o eccles_n 4.6.23_o ¶_o see_v eusebius_n serm_n de_fw-fr annunt_fw-la s._n hier._n in_o epitaph_n paulae_fw-la s._n maximus_n serm_n de_fw-fr s._n agnete_n xxxii_o that_o the_o saint_n pray_v not_o for_o us._n contrary_n to_o the_o express_a word_n of_o their_o own_o bible_n revelat_fw-la 5.8_o the_o four_o and_o twenty_o elder_n fall_v down_o before_o the_o lamb_n have_v every_o one_o of_o they_o harp_n and_o golden_a vial_n full_a of_o odour_n which_o be_v the_o prayer_n of_o saint_n lo_o how_o among_o so_o many_o divine_a and_o unsearchable_a mystery_n set_v down_o in_o holy_a writ_n without_o exposition_n it_o please_v god_n that_o the_o apostle_n himself_o shall_v clear_o open_v this_o point_n unto_o we_o say_v which_o odour_n be_v the_o prayer_n of_o saint_n that_o so_o our_o adversary_n may_v have_v no_o excuse_n of_o their_o error_n therefore_o the_o saint_n pray_v for_o us._n 2._o machab._n 15.14_o then_o onias_n answer_v say_v this_o be_v a_o lover_n of_o the_o brethren_n who_o pray_v much_o for_o the_o people_n and_o for_o the_o holy_a city_n to_o wit_n jeremias_n the_o prophet_n of_o god_n ancient_a origen_n hom_n 18._o in_o joan._n say_v it_o appear_v that_o saint_n depart_v from_o this_o life_n have_v care_n of_o the_o people_n as_o it_o be_v write_v in_o the_o act_n of_o the_o maccabee_n many_o year_n after_o the_o death_n of_o jeremy_n jerem._n 15.1_o though_o moses_n and_o samuel_n stand_v before_o i_o yet_o my_o mind_n can_v not_o be_v towards_o this_o people_n hence_o s._n hierom._n in_o his_o commentary_n and_o s._n greg._n lib._n 9_o of_o his_o moral_n cap._n 12._o do_v gather_v that_o moses_n and_o samuel_n after_o their_o death_n both_o can_v and_o do_v sometime_o pray_v for_o the_o same_o people_n for_o otherwise_o it_o shall_v be_v absurd_a to_o say_v though_o moses_n and_o samuel_n stand_v before_o i_o etc._n etc._n baruch_n 3.4_o o_o lord_n almighty_a thou_o god_n of_o israel_n hear_v now_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o dead_a israëlites_n we_o read_v of_o the_o dead_a of_o israël_n and_o theodoret_n paraphrase_v upon_o the_o prophet_n baruch_n interprete_v this_o place_n as_o catholic_n do_v therefore_o the_o dead_a of_o israel_n pray_v for_o the_o live_n revel_v 2.26.27_o and_o he_o that_o overcom_v &_o keep_v my_o work_n unto_o the_o end_n to_o he_o will_v i_o give_v power_n over_o the_o nation_n and_o he_o shall_v rule_v they_o with_o a_o rod_n of_o iron_n since_o jesus-christ_n therefore_o impart_v his_o power_n unto_o they_o upon_o nation_n therefore_o they_o may_v with_o jesus-christ_n pray_v for_o those_o over_o who_o they_o be_v thus_o establish_v so_o s._n augustine_n expound_v the_o same_o write_v upon_o the_o 2._o psalm_n we_o read_v also_o in_o the_o 16._o of_o s._n luc._n that_o the_o rich-glutton_n in_o hell_n pray_v for_o his_o brethren_n that_o be_v on_o earth_n if_o therefore_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n pray_v not_o for_o we_o their_o brethren_n on_o earth_n than_o we_o may_v say_v that_o great_a be_v the_o charity_n of_o the_o damn_a then_o of_o the_o save_v but_o this_o be_v too_o absurd_a to_o say_v a_o 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universality_n of_o the_o church_n pag._n 46._o 10._o of_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n pag._n 50._o 11._o of_o s._n peter_n headship_n p._n 53._o 12._o whether_o a_o secular_a man_n or_o woman_n may_v be_v head_n of_o the_o church_n pag._n 62._o 13._o whether_o the_o pope_n be_v anti-christ_n pag._n 66._o 14._o whether_o none_o but_o god_n can_v forgive_v sin_n pag._n 69._o 15._o whether_o confession_n ought_v to_o be_v make_v unto_o a_o priest_n pag._n 72._o 16._o of_o pardon_n or_o indulgence_n pag._n 75._o 17._o whether_o the_o action_n and_o suffering_n of_o saint_n be_v profitable_a to_o the_o church_n pag._n 77._o 18._o of_o work_n of_o supererogation_n pag._n 80._o 19_o of_o freewill_n whether_o lose_v by_o the_o fall_n of_o adam_n pag._n 82._o 20._o of_o the_o possibility_n of_o keep_v god_n commandment_n pag._n 87._o 21._o whether_o faith_n alone_o without_o work_n justify_v pag._n 91._o 22._o whether_o good_a work_n be_v meritorious_a pag._n 94._o 23._o whether_o faith_n once_o have_v may_v be_v lose_v pag._n 97._o 24._o whether_o god_n have_v inevitable_o decree_v who_o shall_v be_v damn_v &_o who_o save_v pag._n 99_o 25._o whether_o every_o one_o ought_v to_o assure_v himself_o of_o his_o salvation_n pag._n 101._o 26._o whether_o every_o one_o have_v a_o angel_n guardian_n pag._n 104._o 27._o whether_o angel_n pray_v for_o man_n on_o earth_n pag._n 106._o 28._o whether_o man_n may_v pray_v unto_o they_o pag._n 108._o 29._o whether_o angel_n can_v help_v man_n or_o earth_n pag._n 111._o 30._o whether_o saint_n decease_v have_v appear_v to_o man_n on_o earth_n pag._n 113._o 31._o whether_o they_o know_v what_o pass_v here_o on_o earth_n pag._n 114._o 32._o whether_o saint_n pray_v for_o us._n pag._n 118._o 33._o whether_o we_o may_v allege_v their_o merit_n in_o our_o behalf_n p._n 122._o 34._o whether_o we_o may_v pray_v unto_o they_o pag._n 126._o 35._o whether_o relic_n of_o saint_n may_v be_v honour_v pag._n 130._o 36._o of_o the_o blessing_n or_o hallow_v of_o creature_n pag._n 133._o 37._o whether_o child_n may_v be_v save_v without_o baptism_n pag._n 136._o 38._o of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o confirmation_n pag._n 138._o 39_o whether_o christ_n body_n be_v true_o in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o altar_n pag._n 140._o 40._o whether_o we_o ought_v so_o receive_v under_o both_o kind_n pag._n 145._o 41._o whether_o the_o mass_n be_v a_o sacrifice_n pag._n 148._o 42._o of_o extreme-vnction_n pag._n 152._o 43._o of_o holy_a order_n and_o ordinary_a vocation_n and_o mission_n of_o pastor_n in_o the_o church_n pag._n 155._o 44._o of_o vow_n pag._n 158._o 45._o of_o fast_v and_o abstinence_n from_o certain_a meat_n pag._n 161._o 46._o of_o limbus_n patrum_fw-la and_o whether_o christ_n descend_v into_o hell_n pag._n 164._o 47._o of_o purgatory_n pag._n 171._o 48._o whether_o image_n may_v be_v lawful_o make_v pag._n 178._o 49._o of_o the_o worship_n of_o image_n pag._n 182._o 50._o of_o make_v the_o picture_n of_o god_n the_o father_n pag._n 193._o 51._o of_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n p._n 196._o 52._o whether_o concupiscence_n after_o baptism_n be_v sin_n pag._n 197._o 53._o whether_o bishop_n and_o priest_n may_v lawful_o marry_v pag._n 199._o 54._o of_o service_n in_o the_o church_n in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n pag._n 201._o finis_fw-la
quaest_n 67._o in_o exod._n write_v that_o moses_n not_o think_v himself_o sufficient_a to_o appease_v god_n by_o himself_o add_v the_o intercession_n of_o the_o holy_a patriarch_n and_o the_o like_a do_v s._n aug._n quaest_n 149._o in_o exod._n 2._o chron._n 6.16_o now_o therefore_o o_o lord_n my_o god_n of_o israel_n keep_v with_o thy_o servant_n david_n that_o which_o thou_o have_v promise_v he_o and_o psal_n 132._o we_o 131._o lord_n remember_v david_n and_o all_o his_o affliction_n loe_o again_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n of_o god_n before_o the_o come_n of_o jesus-christ_n and_o how_o servant_n they_o be_v in_o this_o devotion_n still_o allege_v the_o memory_n and_o merit_n of_o their_o saint_n decease_v thereby_o to_o move_v god_n mercy_n towards_o they_o so_o pray_v solomon_n 2._o chron._n 1.9_o so_o pray_v isaiah_n 63.17_o so_o pray_v hester_n 13.14_o so_o pray_v david_n 1._o chron._n 29.18_o name_v abraham_n isaac_n and_o jacob_n for_o his_o intercessor_n 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