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and_o ibid._n ch_z 16._o whereas_o therefore_o some_o angel_n do_v excite_v man_n to_o worship_v this_o one_o god_n and_o some_o again_o excite_v they_o by_o work_a wonder_n to_o honour_n themselves_o with_o sovereign_a worship_n latriâ_fw-la and_o so_o too_o that_o those_o forbid_v that_o these_o shall_v be_v worship_v let_v the_o platonic_a say_v to_o who_o we_o shall_v rather_o give_v credit_n yea_o let_v what_o philosopher_n soever_o say_v let_v the_o theurgi_n or_o rather_o the_o perurgi_n etc._n etc._n nay_o last_o let_v even_o man_n say_v if_o there_o be_v yet_o any_o sense_n of_o humane_a nature_n whereby_o they_o be_v create_v reasonable_a creature_n in_o any_o measure_n leave_v in_o they_o whether_o we_o ought_v rather_o to_o sacrifice_v to_o those_o god_n or_o angel_n who_o command_v that_o sacrifice_n shall_v be_v offer_v to_o they_o or_o to_o he_o alone_o to_o who_o these_o command_v it_o who_o forbid_v that_o sacrifice_n be_v offer_v either_o to_o themselves_o or_o to_o 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