man_n objection_n 3._o 1._o the_o three_o objection_n be_v thâ—_n roman_a church_n commit_v idoâ—latry_n in_o her_o adoration_n at_o masâ—_n bow_v to_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n altar_n image_n and_o relic_n answer_v by_o the_o commandment_n thou_o shall_v not_o make_v to_o thyself_o any_o grave_a thing_n nor_o adore_v it_o exod_a 20._o be_v neither_o forbid_v the_o art_n of_o engrave_v carve_v print_v paint_v cast_v sow_v embroyder_v nor_o yet_o all_o manner_n of_o religious_a honour_n to_o be_v give_v to_o creature_n for_o in_o the_o old_a testament_n where_o this_o commandment_n be_v enjoin_v the_o use_n of_o those_o several_a act_n be_v hold_v lawful_a and_o religious_a honour_n exhibit_v to_o the_o fiery_a bush_n by_o moses_n exod._n 25._o to_o the_o oracle_n by_o the_o high_a priest_n 3._o king_n 27._o and_o to_o the_o ark_n by_o david_n exod._n 3._o levit._fw-la 26._o psal_n 131._o and_o god_n himself_o justify_v they_o therein_o by_o strike_v vzziah_n with_o leprosy_n and_o oza_n with_o death_n for_o not_o forbear_v to_o meddle_v with_o holy_a and_o sacred_a thing_n without_o authority_n 2._o paral._n 26._o king_n 6_o so_o that_o all_o this_o commandment_n forbid_v be_v to_o make_v grave_v thing_n to_o the_o end_n to_o honour_v they_o with_o divine_a honour_n that_o be_v to_o make_v god_n of_o they_o as_o the_o pagan_n do_v 2._o now_o to_o vindicate_v the_o roman_a church_n from_o all_o idolatry_n in_o her_o worship_n it_o be_v to_o be_v note_v that_o all_o thing_n be_v not_o of_o equal_a worth_n but_o that_o some_o thing_n surpass_v other_o some_o in_o perfection_n and_o excellency_n be_v more_o worthy_a than_o other_o whence_o it_o be_v that_o god_n be_v superior_a to_o all_o thing_n angel_n to_o man_n and_o man_n some_o to_o other_o and_o hereupon_o be_v ground_v honour_n and_o the_o degree_n thereof_o according_a to_o the_o variety_n of_o perfection_n and_o excellency_n find_v in_o thing_n for_o where_o perfection_n and_o excellency_n be_v discover_v 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of_o jesus_n to_o altar_n picture_n relic_n relate_v to_o god_n christ_n and_o his_o saint_n as_o she_o do_v of_o civil_a to_o thing_n in_o relation_n to_o temporal_a dignity_n and_o preeminency_n but_o to_o find_v fault_n with_o this_o be_v to_o blame_v justice_n for_o give_v to_o every_o thing_n its_o due_a in_o acknowledge_v the_o truth_n it_o be_v most_o true_a and_o undoubted_a that_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n altar_n picture_n and_o reqlique_n bear_v relation_n to_o god_n christ_n and_o his_o saint_n as_o person_n in_o dignity_n and_o preeminency_n to_o the_o same_o 4._o to_o urge_v against_o the_o lawfullness_n of_o adoration_n at_o mass_n from_o the_o interposition_n of_o creature_n will_v prove_v too_o much_o viz._n that_o christ_n be_v not_o adorable_a in_o church_n in_o the_o field_n nay_o at_o all_o by_o reason_n of_o a_o necessity_n of_o interposition_n of_o wall_n the_o heaven_n or_o christ_n body_n betwixt_o the_o adorer_n and_o his_o sacred_a person_n 5._o it_o will_v be_v oppose_v christ_n be_v not_o capable_a of_o adoration_n in_o the_o sacrament_n he_o not_o appear_v there_o like_o himself_o with_o glory_n and_o majesty_n repl._n christ_n be_v adorable_a where_o and_o howsoever_o he_o be_v please_v to_o be_v else_o the_o three_o king_n saint_n mary_n magdalen_n and_o the_o apostle_n be_v reprovable_a for_o do_v he_o homage_n not_o in_o a_o sumptuous_a palace_n and_o enthrone_v under_o a_o rich_a cloth_n of_o state_n but_o in_o a_o poor_a stable_n a_o dusty_a manger_n have_v for_o canopy_n a_o rack_n of_o hay_n not_o glorious_o attire_v and_o accompany_v with_o noble_n but_o in_o swaddle_a clothes_n betwixt_o a_o ox_n and_o a_o ass_n not_o like_o a_o prince_n but_o a_o mechanic_n a_o gardener_n a_o carpenter_n the_o poorness_n and_o meanness_n of_o the_o manner_n christ_n appear_v in_o not_o only_o do_v not_o deprive_v he_o of_o the_o duty_n of_o adoration_n but_o render_v he_o much_o more_o adorable_a for_o exaltation_n be_v humility_n reward_v and_o so_o it_o be_v but_o meet_v they_o go_v hand_n in_o hand_n and_o take_v increase_v together_o that_o the_o height_n of_o that_o may_v answer_v the_o depth_n of_o this_o for_o which_o respect_n saint_n paul_n stick_v not_o to_o bid_v honour_n to_o be_v give_v to_o the_o very_a name_n of_o jesus_n phil._n 2._o objection_n 4._o 1._o the_o four_o objection_n be_v the_o roman_a church_n challenge_v power_n to_o forgive_v sin_n which_o belong_v only_o to_o god_n ans_fw-fr all_o power_n be_v natural_o &_o original_o in_o god_n as_o lord_n paramount_n of_o all_o creature_n but_o not_o incommunicable_a for_o as_o he_o have_v bestow_v the_o power_n of_o govern_v kingdom_n and_o commonwealth_n on_o king_n and_o magistrate_n prov._n 8.15_o rom._n 13.1_o so_o the_o power_n of_o remit_v of_o sin_n on_o the_o apostle_n and_o their_o successor_n yet_o man_n have_v these_o power_n by_o way_n of_o gift_n and_o participation_n may_v not_o be_v say_v to_o govern_v or_o to_o forgive_v sin_n but_o as_o god_n substitute_n and_o delegate_n suitable_o to_o the_o condition_n of_o their_o inferiority_n and_o subjection_n objection_n 5._o 1._o the_o five_o objection_n be_v the_o roman_a church_n derogate_v from_o christ_n mediatorship_n make_v it_o common_a to_o saint_n and_o angel_n answer_n thing_n that_o be_v like_a have_v sometime_o the_o same_o denomination_n so_o king_n and_o judge_n be_v call_v god_n for_o some_o resemblance_n betwixt_o god_n power_n and_o they_o psal_n 81.1_o 6._o the_o roman_a church_n then_o observe_v in_o the_o intercession_n of_o saint_n and_o angel_n a_o certain_a likeness_n to_o the_o mediation_n of_o christ_n they_o be_v both_o expression_n of_o charitable_a and_o good_a desire_n for_o other_o may_v not_o unfit_o call_v they_o alike_o by_o the_o name_n of_o mediation_n but_o she_o be_v so_o far_o hereby_o from_o intend_v the_o least_o prejudice_n
to_o christ_n mediation_n either_o in_o confound_v or_o equal_v the_o same_o with_o that_o of_o saint_n and_o angel_n that_o she_o put_v as_o wide_a a_o difference_n betwixt_o they_o as_o can_v be_v betwixt_o two_o thing_n of_o different_a appellation_n acknowledge_v in_o christ_n mediation_n a_o worth_n or_o right_n whereto_o the_o thing_n desire_v be_v of_o justice_n due_a in_o the_o mediation_n of_o saint_n and_o angel_n only_o a_o virtue_n of_o move_a god_n goodness_n and_o mercy_n to_o grant_v their_o desire_n which_o be_v not_o hold_v in_o jurious_a to_o christ_n mediation_n to_o allow_v of_o as_o good_a in_o the_o prayer_n of_o sinner_n hate_a and_o abominate_v by_o god_n for_o their_o crime_n and_o iniquity_n much_o less_o ought_v it_o to_o be_v esteem_v a_o wrong_a to_o attribute_v it_o to_o the_o intercession_n and_o prayer_n of_o saint_n and_o angel_n who_o purity_n and_o sanctity_n render_v they_o gracious_a and_o please_a in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n 2._o it_o will_v be_v 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their_o want_n and_o necessity_n david_n adultery_n and_o guilt_n of_o blood_n be_v in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n unpardoned_a till_o after_o a_o low_a humiliation_n and_o a_o hearty_a acknowledgement_n of_o his_o fault_n 1._o king_n 12._o objection_n 6._o 1._o the_o six_o objection_n be_v the_o roman_a church_n entertain_v division_n and_o contrariety_n in_o religion_n the_o dominican_n maintain_v a_o physical_a predetermination_n the_o jesuit_n a_o moral_a those_o that_o the_o virgin_n mary_n be_v conceive_v in_o original_a sin_n these_o that_o she_o be_v prevent_v by_o grace_n conceive_v in_o the_o same_o and_o if_o this_o be_v not_o enough_o to_o infer_v contrariety_n in_o religion_n several_a counsel_n have_v contradict_v each_o other_o answer_n not_o every_o difference_n but_o a_o difference_n in_o point_n of_o faith_n make_v division_n and_o contrariety_n in_o religion_n the_o dominican_n and_o jesuit_n only_o quarrel_n about_o opinion_n it_o be_v no_o matter_n of_o beleif_fw-mi 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