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A33211 A discourse concerning the worship of the Blessed Virgin and the saints with an account of the beginnings and rise of it amongst Christians, in answer to M. de Meaux's appeal to the fourth age, in his Exposition and pastoral letter. Clagett, William, 1646-1688. 1686 (1686) Wing C4384; ESTC R171370 81,086 123

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seem_v be_v wink_v at_o by_o all_o only_a st._n austin_n seem_v to_o doubt_v of_o it_o as_o we_o shall_v see_v present_o but_o st._n basil_n make_v no_o question_n of_o it_o and_o therefore_o manifest_o approve_v the_o practice_n that_o be_v ground_v upon_o it_o for_o thus_o he_o speak_v concern_v the_o memory_n of_o the_o forty_o martyr_n martyr_n basil_n in_o 40._o martyr_n here_o say_v he_o a_o religious_a woman_n be_v find_v pray_v for_o her_o child_n and_o desire_v a_o safe_a return_n for_o her_o husband_n that_o be_v abroad_o and_o recovery_n for_o her_o sick_a husband_n and_o then_o he_o add_v let_v your_o prayer_n be_v make_v with_o the_o martyr_n i_o know_v this_o passage_n enforce_v no_o more_o than_o that_o the_o prayer_n make_v in_o those_o place_n to_o god_n will_v excite_v the_o martyr_n to_o join_v their_o intercession_n with_o those_o of_o the_o devout_a christian_a and_o perhaps_o st._n basil_n seem_v to_o approve_v this_o way_n more_o than_o call_v upon_o the_o martyr_n themselves_o because_o he_o say_v let_v your_o prayer_n be_v make_v with_o not_o to_o the_o martyr_n but_o that_o some_o christian_n do_v speak_v to_o the_o martyr_n too_o and_o be_v not_o reprove_v for_o it_o be_v i_o think_v very_o plain_a from_o what_o st._n basil_n say_v in_o his_o oration_n upon_o mamas_n the_o martyr_n you_o remember_v the_o martyr_n say_v he_o as_o many_o of_o you_o as_o have_v enjoy_v he_o in_o dream_n as_o many_o of_o you_o as_o come_n to_o this_o place_n have_v have_v his_o help_n towards_o your_o prayer_n as_o many_o of_o you_o as_o have_v call_v to_o he_o mam._n he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d basil_n homil._n 26._o de_fw-fr s._n mam._n by_o name_n have_v find_v he_o present_a by_o his_o work_n as_o many_o traveller_n as_o he_o have_v bring_v home_o again_o etc._n etc._n for_o here_o i_o can_v but_o think_v that_o mamas_n his_o be_v call_v by_o name_n signify_v more_o than_o a_o bare_a wish_n that_o he_o will_v pray_v for_o those_o that_o be_v speak_v of_o especial_o consider_v how_o very_o natural_a it_o be_v for_o a_o belief_n of_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o martyr_n in_o some_o place_n to_o breed_v the_o custom_n of_o address_v to_o they_o as_o a_o man_n will_v do_v to_o his_o friend_n that_o be_v within_o the_o compass_n of_o hear_v so_o that_o i_o will_v not_o go_v about_o to_o put_v any_o other_o construction_n upon_o these_o word_n than_o this_o plain_a one_o that_o some_o of_o st._n basils_n auditor_n have_v call_v to_o mamas_n by_o name_n to_o pray_v for_o they_o and_o to_o assist_v they_o in_o the_o procure_n of_o that_o which_o they_o have_v desire_v of_o god_n or_o be_v about_o to_o desire_v of_o he_o and_o here_o to_o use_v the_o word_n of_o the_o excellent_a bishop_n usher_n a_o man_n may_v easy_o discern_v the_o breed_n of_o a_o disease_n 444._o answer_v to_o jesuit_n challenge_n p._n 444._o and_o as_o it_o be_v the_o grudge_n of_o that_o ague_n that_o break_v out_o afterward_o into_o a_o pestilential_a fever_n i_o be_o not_o insensible_a what_o colour_n this_o plain_a and_o honest_a deal_n may_v afford_v to_o those_o of_o the_o roman_a communion_n who_o do_v not_o seek_v for_o truth_n nor_o be_v willing_a that_o other_o shall_v find_v it_o what_o will_v they_o now_o say_v but_o that_o we_o begin_v to_o confess_v the_o establishment_n of_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n in_o the_o four_o age_n mounseur_fw-fr de_fw-fr meaux_n have_v say_v it_o already_o upon_o less_o occasion_n give_v but_o we_o can_v help_v it_o if_o our_o conscience_n be_v misrepresent_v by_o the_o artifices_fw-la of_o some_o of_o they_o and_o superficial_o look_v upon_o by_o the_o rest_n for_o my_o own_o part_n i_o have_v rather_o another_o man_n shall_v make_v a_o disingenuous_a advantage_n of_o my_o deal_n true_o in_o defence_n of_o the_o truth_n than_o go_v about_o to_o take_v away_o from_o he_o the_o occasion_n of_o use_v a_o pious_a fraud_n by_o be_v guilty_a of_o a_o pious_a fraud_n myself_o but_o i_o will_v now_o be_v bold_a to_o say_v that_o there_o be_v so_o vast_a a_o difference_n between_o the_o practice_n of_o some_o christian_n in_o the_o four_o age_n who_o reconcile_v themselves_o to_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o martyr_n and_o between_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n which_o be_v now_o practise_v and_o contend_v for_o in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o the_o allowance_n of_o the_o former_a will_n by_o no_o mean_n infer_v the_o latter_a the_o forementioned_a great_a man_n have_v show_v the_o difference_n in_o several_a particular_n well_o worth_a every_o honest_a and_o prudent_a man_n consideration_n that_o desire_v to_o inform_v himself_o in_o this_o matter_n 457._o ibid._n from_o p._n 445._o to_o p._n 457._o and_o to_o he_o i_o shall_v the_o rather_o refer_v the_o inquisitive_a reader_n for_o
upon_o angel_n i_o see_v little_a reason_n why_o he_o shall_v be_v think_v to_o speak_v in_o this_o fashion_n mere_o because_o he_o be_v in_o comparison_n but_o a_o novice_n in_o christianity_n when_o he_o write_v this_o book_n towards_o the_o end_n of_o his_o life_n he_o seem_v to_o be_v as_o fond_a as_o ever_o he_o have_v be_v of_o the_o relic_n of_o martyr_n and_o very_o desirous_a to_o make_v his_o prayer_n over_o they_o amb._n paulinus_n in_o vitâ_fw-la ambros_n paris_n amb._n if_o paulinus_n may_v be_v believe_v who_o observe_v that_o if_o the_o holy_a priest_n go_v to_o pray_v in_o a_o place_n at_o which_o he_o have_v never_o be_v see_v to_o pray_v before_o this_o be_v a_o token_n that_o he_o know_v by_o revelation_n the_o body_n of_o some_o martyr_n to_o lie_v hide_v thereabouts_o so_o that_o although_o the_o body_n he_o then_o speak_v of_o be_v soon_o translate_v into_o the_o church_n of_o the_o apostle_n yet_o st._n ambrose_n will_v loose_v no_o time_n but_o go_v forthwith_o to_o say_v his_o prayer_n to_o god_n at_o the_o place_n where_o they_o lay_v bury_v and_o probable_o enough_o to_o speak_v to_o they_o too_o believe_v that_o they_o be_v there_o near_o enough_o to_o observe_v and_o hear_v he_o and_o that_o they_o will_v assist_v he_o with_o their_o prayer_n thus_o sozomen_n tell_v we_o that_o theodosius_n go_v out_o of_o constantinople_n in_o his_o expedition_n against_o eugenius_n and_o come_v to_o the_o seven_o mile_n there_o 〈◊〉_d there_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d pray_v to_o god_n and_o likewise_o 24._o likewise_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sozom._n lib._n 7._o c._n 24._o call_v to_o john_n the_o baptist_n to_o help_v he_o i_o shall_v not_o need_v to_o insist_v upon_o the_o difference_n of_o expression_n pray_v to_o god_n and_o call_v to_o the_o saint_n though_o several_a instance_n may_v be_v produce_v in_o favour_n of_o such_o a_o observation_n for_o here_o also_o we_o find_v that_o the_o place_n where_o the_o emperor_n pray_v to_o god_n 21._o ibid._n c._n 21._o and_o withal_o call_v upon_o the_o baptist_n be_v no_o other_o than_o that_o church_n which_o he_o have_v build_v for_o a_o memory_n of_o st._n john_n baptist_n for_o it_o seem_v certain_a monk_n of_o the_o macedonian_a heresy_n be_v say_v to_o have_v find_v the_o head_n of_o the_o baptist_n at_o jerusalem_n which_o after_o several_a remove_n be_v at_o last_o bring_v by_o theodosius_n to_o constantinople_n in_o the_o suburb_n whereof_o he_o bury_v it_o and_o erect_v a_o stately_a church_n over_o it_o so_o that_o here_o the_o relic_n of_o the_o martyr_n be_v a_o pledge_n of_o his_o presence_n and_o patronage_n and_o here_o it_o be_v that_o theodosius_n do_v not_o only_o pray_v to_o god_n but_o call_v to_o the_o saint_n for_o his_o assistance_n too_o 33._o ruffin_n hist_o lib._n 2._o c._n 33._o ruffinus_n indeed_o tell_v we_o that_o he_o seek_v help_v by_o the_o intercession_n of_o other_o saint_n but_o where_o be_v it_o not_o here_o at_o st._n john_n baptist_n memory_n but_o where_o the_o relic_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o martyr_n be_v keep_v that_o be_v in_o other_o memory_n but_o when_o the_o emperor_n be_v come_v into_o italy_n and_o have_v the_o enemy_n before_o he_o in_o the_o field_n though_o we_o find_v that_o he_o pray_v yet_o there_o be_v not_o the_o least_o intimation_n of_o call_v upon_o the_o baptist_n or_o upon_o any_o other_o saint_n there_o it_o be_v only_o say_v 24._o sozom._n lib._n 7._o c._n 24._o that_o prostitute_v himself_o upon_o the_o ground_n he_o pray_v with_o tear_n and_o god_n present_o hear_v his_o prayer_n but_o though_o the_o victory_n be_v without_o all_o question_n to_o be_v ascribe_v to_o god_n yet_o sozomen_n relate_v a_o strange_a story_n which_o he_o have_v take_v as_o it_o seem_v upon_o common_a report_n how_o the_o devil_n ascribe_v it_o to_o john_n the_o bapist_n for_o the_o same_o day_n that_o the_o battle_n be_v fight_v a_o man_n possess_v be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o st._n john_n baptist_n be_v heave_v up_o very_o high_a from_o the_o ground_n and_o the_o devil_n that_o be_v in_o he_o ibid._n ibid._n rail_v at_o the_o baptist_n and_o reproach_v he_o for_o have_v lose_v his_o head_n but_o yet_o can_v not_o forbear_v confess_v to_o he_o in_o this_o manner_n thou_o overcome_v i_o and_o defeat_a my_o army_n i_o confess_v i_o be_o apt_a to_o suspect_v foul_a play_n in_o this_o prank_n of_o the_o devil_n if_o it_o be_v true_a and_o do_v believe_v that_o god_n ought_v to_o have_v have_v the_o glory_n not_o a_o whit_n the_o less_o for_o the_o devil_n give_v it_o to_o the_o saint_n but_o such_o kind_n of_o report_n be_v make_v use_n of_o to_o confirm_v people_n in_o a_o opinion_n of_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o martyr_n at_o their_o memory_n for_o the_o devil_n be_v speak_v to_o john_n the_o baptist_n here_o be_v his_o acknowledgement_n of_o it_o and_o in_o the_o practice_n of_o make_v address_n to_o they_o there_o upon_o that_o account_n nothing_o yet_o appear_v to_o the_o contrary_a but_o that_o they_o who_o think_v the_o martyr_n hear_v when_o they_o be_v speak_v to_o believe_v their_o presence_n to_o be_v limit_v to_o some_o certain_a place_n in_o the_o compass_n of_o which_o they_o be_v within_o hear_v but_o i_o be_o not_o so_o vain_a as_o to_o undertake_v that_o there_o be_v none_o in_o those_o day_n who_o call_v upon_o the_o martyr_n in_o all_o place_n indifferent_o for_o while_o the_o great_a man_n of_o that_o age_n seem_v to_o give_v a_o full_a scope_n to_o that_o strain_n of_o zeal_n towards_o the_o martyr_n which_o be_v now_o go_v forward_o it_o be_v to_o be_v fear_v rather_o though_o no_o such_o thing_n appear_v that_o some_o of_o the_o people_n make_v no_o difference_n between_o call_v upon_o their_o martyr_n at_o their_o memory_n or_o any_o where_o else_o and_o so_o it_o certain_o be_v when_o one_o of_o those_o sermon_n be_v write_v that_o be_v safe_o attribute_v to_o st._n 4._o serm._n de_fw-fr fest_n nazarii_fw-la &_o celsi_fw-la tom_n 4._o ambrose_n but_o it_o be_v enough_o for_o my_o present_a purpose_n that_o the_o custom_n of_o call_v upon_o the_o martyr_n at_o their_o respective_a memory_n be_v as_o yet_o very_o notorious_a and_o this_o indeed_o be_v the_o ground_n of_o that_o scoff_n of_o vigilantius_n for_o which_o st._n supra_fw-la hierom._n adu._n vigil_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la hierom_n chastise_v he_o so_o severe_o what_o say_v he_o be_v the_o soul_n of_o the_o martyr_n therefore_o so_o fond_a of_o their_o own_o ash_n do_v they_o hover_v about_o they_o and_o be_v always_o present_a with_o they_o lest_o perhaps_o if_o any_o one_o come_v to_o pray_v they_o shall_v be_v absent_a and_o incapable_a of_o hear_v he_o to_o the_o matter_n of_o which_o question_n st._n hierom_n be_v almost_o silent_a but_o he_o lash_v he_o for_o abuse_v and_o laugh_v at_o the_o relic_n of_o the_o martyr_n the_o truth_n be_v vigilantius_n have_v hit_v that_o popular_a opinion_n that_o the_o martyr_n be_v very_o much_o present_v with_o their_o relic_n and_o consequent_o that_o the_o best_a way_n to_o be_v sure_a of_o they_o be_v to_o go_v to_o the_o church_n where_o their_o relic_n be_v unless_o which_o happen_v very_o seldom_o they_o shall_v discover_v a_o particular_a affection_n to_o some_o other_o place_n as_o st._n hilarion_n do_v to_o the_o garden_n of_o cyprus_n after_o his_o relic_n be_v steal_v out_o of_o it_o now_o therefore_o as_o the_o first_o address_n that_o be_v make_v to_o the_o martyr_n have_v not_o the_o nature_n of_o prayer_n or_o religious_a invocation_n in_o any_o other_o respect_n so_o neither_o in_o this_o that_o they_o ascribe_v omnipresence_n to_o the_o saint_n or_o martyr_n for_o not_o only_o the_o belief_n of_o that_o age_n but_o the_o practice_n of_o it_o too_o in_o seek_v the_o intercession_n of_o the_o saint_n limit_v their_o presence_n to_o some_o determinate_a place_n and_o general_o to_o their_o respective_a memory_n they_o that_o call_v upon_o the_o saint_n at_o all_o do_v not_o indifferent_o call_v upon_o they_o in_o any_o place_n but_o if_o we_o may_v gather_v the_o general_a practice_n from_o such_o particular_a instance_n as_o we_o have_v they_o invocate_v they_o in_o some_o certain_a place_n only_o where_o they_o be_v think_v to_o be_v within_o hear_v nor_o can_v i_o find_v that_o they_o think_v it_o reasonable_a to_o speak_v so_o much_o as_o to_o one_o saint_n at_o the_o memory_n of_o another_o but_o rather_o to_o every_o saint_n a●_n his_o own_o which_o make_v the_o address_n of_o those_o time_n to_o the_o martyr_n very_o different_a from_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o have_v let_v her_o child_n loose_a to_o call_v upon_o every_o saint_n in_o every_o place_n as_o
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