Selected quad for the lemma: saint_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
saint_n	ancient_a	church_n	rome_n	1,643	5	6.6367	4	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A02568	The peace of Rome Proclaimed to all the world, by her famous Cardinall Bellarmine, and the no lesse famous casuist Nauarre. Whereof the one acknowledgeth, and numbers vp aboue three hundred differences of opinion, maintained in the popish church. The other confesses neere threescore differences amongst their owne doctors in one onely point of their religion. Gathered faithfully out of their writings in their own words, and diuided into foure bookes, and those into seuerall decads. Whereto is prefixed a serious disswasiue from poperie. By I.H.	Azpilcueta, Martín de, 1492?-1586.; Hall, Joseph, 1574-1656.; Bellarmino, Roberto Francesco Romolo, Saint, 1542-1621. Disputationes de controversiis Christianae fidei. English. Selections.	1609 (1609)	STC 12696; ESTC S106027	106,338	252

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in_o this_o the_o old_a religion_n be_v not_o you_o we_o &c_n yet_o this_o one_o passage_n further_o and_o then_o no_o more_o lest_o i_o weary_a you_o our_o question_n be_v whether_o the_o scripture_n depend_v upon_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n or_o rather_o the_o church_n upon_o the_o authority_n of_o scripture_n hear_v first_o the_o ancient_a church_n with_o and_o for_o we_o the_o question_n be_v say_v saint_n austen_n betwixt_o we_o and_o the_o donatist_n where_o the_o church_n be_v what_o shall_v we_o do_v then_o shall_v we_o seek_v she_o in_o our_o own_o word_n or_o in_o the_o word_n of_o her_o head_n the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n i_o suppose_v we_o ought_v to_o seek_v she_o rather_o in_o his_o word_n which_o be_v the_o truth_n and_o know_v best_a his_o own_o body_n for_o the_o lord_n know_v who_o be_v he_o we_o will_v not_o have_v the_o church_n seek_v in_o our_o word_n and_o in_o the_o same_o book_n etc._n whether_o the_o donatist_n hold_n the_o church_n say_v the_o same_o father_n let_v they_o not_o show_v but_o by_o the_o canonical_a book_n of_o divine_a scripture_n for_o neither_o do_v we_o therefore_o say_v they_o shall_v believe_v we_o that_o we_o be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n because_o optatus_n or_o ambrose_n have_v commend_v this_o church_n unto_o we_o which_o we_o now_o hold_v or_o because_o it_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o the_o counsel_n of_o our_o fellow-teacher_n or_o because_o so_o great_a miracle_n be_v do_v in_o it_o it_o be_v not_o therefore_o manifest_v to_o be_v true_a and_o catholic_a but_o the_o lord_n jesus_n himself_o judge_v that_o his_o disciple_n shall_v rather_o be_v confirm_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o law_n and_o the_o prophet_n these_o be_v the_o rule_n of_o our_o cause_n these_o

receive_v and_o defend_v this_o opinion_n long_o since_o condemn_v by_o the_o father_n bellarm._n ibid._n c._n 10._o p._n 53._o nine_o aug._n eugubinus_n hier._n de_fw-fr oleastro_fw-la vatablus_n jansenius_n reject_v by_o bellarmine_n etc._n the_o four_o opinion_n be_v of_o some_o late_a writer_n augustine_n eugubinus_n hierome_n de_fw-fr oleastro_fw-la francis_n vatablus_n cornelius_n jansenius_n that_o hold_n paradise_n be_v in_o mesopotamia_n but_o that_o in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o deluge_n the_o beauty_n and_o pleasure_n of_o it_o so_o fade_a that_o there_o be_v no_o show_n of_o a_o paradise_n and_o therefore_o now_o there_o be_v no_o more_o guard_n of_o the_o angel_n or_o flame_a sword_n but_o for_o many_o cause_n i_o can_v like_v this_o opinion_n bellarm._n ibid._n cap._n 12._o pag._n 62._o ten_o the_o late_a papist_n against_o the_o ancient_a howsoever_o the_o late_a writer_n which_o we_o cite_v before_o eugubinus_n etc._n jansenius_n and_o other_o hold_v the_o contrary_a yet_o since_o i_o never_o read_v any_o of_o the_o ancient_a which_o have_v hold_v the_o earthly_a paradise_n to_o be_v perish_v either_o by_o water_n or_o by_o any_o other_o cause_n and_o i_o have_v find_v many_o that_o affirm_v it_o be_v yet_o extant_a as_o almost_o all_o the_o schoolman_n upon_o 2._o sent._n d._n 17._o and_o saint_n thomas_n beside_o iren._n hierom._n augustine_n theodoret_n bede_n etc._n etc._n and_o other_o i_o dare_v not_o dissent_v from_o so_o common_a and_o receive_v a_o opinion_n bellarm._n ibid._n cap._n 14._o pag._n 68_o the_o peace_n of_o rome_n the_o three_o book_n or_o century_n decad_n i._o first_o bellarm._n against_o s._n tho._n and_o other_o schoolman_n it_o be_v hold_v by_o io._n damascenus_n etc._n st._n thomas_n and_o other_o of_o the_o schoolman_n that_o man_n only_o and_o not_o brute_n creature_n shall_v have_v have_v place_n in_o paradise_n if_o man_n have_v not_o sin_v but_o the_o authority_n of_o saint_n basill_n and_o saint_n austin_n which_o teach_v the_o contrary_a prevail_v more_o with_o i_o see_v the_o confutation_n bellarmine_n the_o same_o book_n cap._n 15._o pag._n 71._o second_o the_o schoolman_n oppose_v by_o bellarmine_n st._n austin_n who_o the_o schoolman_n in_o this_o do_v follow_v etc._n hold_n that_o the_o tree_n of_o life_n be_v appoint_v to_o defend_v that_o death_n which_o use_v to_o ensue_v upon_o old_a age_n the_o opinion_n of_o many_o other_o father_n and_o i_o think_v very_o agreeable_a to_o scripture_n and_o reason_n be_v quite_o otherwise_o namely_o that_o this_o tree_n have_v this_o power_n that_o once_o taste_v of_o it_o can_v give_v perfect_a immortality_n such_o as_o we_o shall_v have_v after_o our_o resurrection_n etc._n etc._n this_o i_o confess_v i_o like_v better_o of_o the_o two_o bellarmine_n ibid._n c._n 18._o pag._n 74._o three_o bellarmine_n against_o alphonsus_n de_fw-fr castro_n i_o marvel_v what_o alphosus_n the_o castro_n mean_v etc._n to_o write_v that_o saint_n jerome_n never_o ascribe_v this_o error_n of_o the_o equality_n of_o sin_n to_o jovinian_a for_o in_o many_o page_n in_o his_o second_o book_n against_o jovinian_a he_o both_o name_v he_o and_o answer_v his_o argument_n for_o this_o purpose_n bellarm._n in_o his_o first_o book_n of_o the_o loss_n of_o grace_n and_o state_n of_o sin_n cap._n 4._o pag._n 97._o four_o io._n gerson_n and_o io._n rossensis_n against_o lombard_n and_o the_o rest_n and_o jacob_n almain_n etc._n the_o catholic_a divine_n in_o the_o master_n of_o sent._n 2._o b._n dist._n 42._o and_o saint_n thomas_n out_o of_o the_o consent_n of_o almost_o all_o writer_n teach_v that_o some_o sin_n of_o their_o own_o nature_n without_o all_o respect_n to_o predestination_n or_o reprobation_n of_o the_o state_n of_o the_o regenerate_a or_o unregenerate_a be_v deadly_a and_o other_o venial_a and_o that_o by_o the_o first_o man_n be_v make_v unworthy_a of_o god_n favour_n and_o guilty_a of_o death_n by_o the_o other_o liable_a only_o to_o some_o temporal_a punishment_n and_o fatherly_a chastisement_n only_o io._n gerson_n 3._o p._n theol._n tract_n 3._o and_o io._n of_o rochester_n in_o his_o refutation_n of_o 32._o art_n of_o luther_n and_o jacobus_n almain_n must_v be_v except_v which_o differ_v somewhat_o herein_o from_o the_o common_a opinion_n of_o divine_n bellarm_n ibid._n c._n 4._o p._n 102._o five_o bellarmine_n and_o thomas_n against_o scotus_n and_o bonaventure_n the_o common_a opinion_n of_o catholic_a divine_n be_v that_o eve_n first_o sin_n be_v pride_n etc._n yea_o s._n thomas_n hold_v that_o the_o first_o sin_n of_o both_o our_o first_o parent_n be_v pride_n 2.2_o quaest_n 163._o s._n bonaventure_n and_o scotus_n hold_v that_o adam_n first_o sin_n be_v inordinate_a love_n to_o his_o wife_n not_o of_o concupiscence_n but_o of_o humane_a kindness_n the_o other_o opinion_n be_v to_o be_v receive_v rather_o see_v the_o confutation_n of_o scotus_n and_o bonaventure_n cha_n 5._o bellarm._n 3._o book_n of_o the_o loss_n of_o grace_n etc._n etc._n c._n 4._o p._n 278._o six_o different_a opinion_n of_o ancient_a father_n maintain_v by_o some_o papist_n some_o think_v that_o eve_n believe_v not_o etc._n that_o death_n shall_v follow_v upon_o the_o eat_n of_o the_o forbid_a tree_n but_o rather_o believe_v that_o god_n have_v lie_v to_o they_o and_o upon_o envy_n forbid_v that_o so_o excellent_a and_o wholesome_a fruit_n so_o teach_v cyrill_n chrysostome_n augustine_n rupertus_n rabanus_n and_o many_o other_o other_o think_v that_o eve_n believe_v that_o the_o same_o fruit_n be_v not_o indeed_o forbid_v by_o god_n and_o that_o she_o and_o her_o husband_n have_v mistake_v the_o word_n of_o god_n this_o opinion_n be_v note_v by_o augustine_n book_n 11._o gen._n ad_fw-la literam_fw-la cap._n 30._o and_o by_o epiphanius_n in_o the_o heresy_n of_o cainite_n bellarm._n ibid._n cap._n 6._o pag._n 290._o seven_o scotus_n and_o some_o few_o other_o against_o thomas_n albert_n bonaventure_n richard_n durand_n some_o there_o be_v which_o think_v that_o the_o first_o sin_n of_o our_o first_o parent_n may_v have_v be_v venial_a desunt_fw-la so_o hold_v scotus_n upon_o 2._o senten_n dist._n 21._o and_o some_o few_o other_o which_o follow_v he_o but_o the_o great_a divine_n teach_v contrary_a as_o saint_n thomas_n albert_n saint_n bonaventure_n richardus_fw-la durandus_fw-la egidius_n and_o other_o upon_o 2._o sent._n dist._n 21._o and_o alexander_n alensis_n in_o sum._n theol._n p._n 2._o q._n 104._o bellarm._n ibid._n cap._n 8._o pag_n 298._o eight_o bellarmine_n against_o the_o schoolman_n with_o chrysostome_n chrys._n saaint_v chrysostome_n direct_o teach_v that_o the_o sin_n of_o eve_n be_v more_o heinous_a than_o adam_n which_o opinion_n most_o of_o the_o schoolman_n follow_v upon_o 2._o sent._n dist._n 22._o contrary_o saint_n ambrose_n by_o many_o argument_n prove_n that_o the_o man_n sin_v worse_a than_o the_o woman_n saint_n austin_n so_o speak_v as_o if_o he_o think_v the_o sin_n of_o both_o equal_a bellarmine_n allow_v chrysostom_n opinion_n for_o probable_a but_o yield_v rather_o to_o ambrose_n and_o conclude_v that_o absolute_o the_o man_n sin_v worse_a than_o the_o woman_n though_o in_o respect_n of_o some_o act_n the_o woman_n sin_v equal_o to_o he_o bellarm._n ibid._n c._n 9_o p._n 299._o nine_o three_o rank_n of_o popish_a doctor_n dissent_v concern_v the_o traduction_n of_o original_a sin_n etc._n saint_n austin_n hold_v thus_o that_o either_o both_o body_n and_o soul_n be_v corrupt_v in_o the_o derivation_n of_o it_o according_a to_o their_o opinion_n which_o hold_v the_o soul_n propagate_v or_o that_o the_o soul_n be_v corrupt_v in_o the_o body_n as_o in_o a_o unclean_a vessel_n according_a to_o they_o which_o hold_v the_o soul_n create_v by_o god_n and_o only_o the_o corrupt_a flesh_n take_v from_o our_o parent_n further_n austin_n write_v that_o the_o flesh_n be_v corrupt_v because_o it_o be_v beget_v in_o lust_n and_o that_o it_o be_v not_o generation_n but_o lust_n which_o proper_o traduce_v sin_n as_o august_n in_o his_o first_o book_n de_fw-fr peccat_fw-la meritis_fw-la &_o 1_o b._n de_fw-fr nuptijs_fw-la &_o concup_n but_o this_o opinion_n if_o it_o be_v take_v as_o the_o word_n sound_v as_o it_o be_v indeed_o understand_v by_o peter_n lombard_n gregory_n ariminensis_n and_o gabriel_n seem_v not_o to_o be_v suffer_v other_o hold_v that_o the_o soul_n be_v defile_v with_o the_o body_n because_o the_o flesh_n destitute_a of_o original_a justice_n and_o grow_v rebellious_a to_o reason_n draw_v away_o the_o soul_n and_o incline_v it_o amiss_o so_o think_v alexander_n alensis_n and_o s._n bonaventure_n but_o this_o opinion_n be_v confute_v by_o the_o same_o argument_n there_o be_v another_o opinion_n which_o i_o doubt_v not_o be_v the_o true_a of_o saint_n anselm_n saint_n thomas_n scotus_n durandus_fw-la and_o other_o upon_o 2._o sent._n do_v 31._o that_o to_o the_o traduce_v of_o original_a sin_n nothing_o be_v require_v but_o that_o

immediate_o institute_v by_o he_o further_o that_o which_o alexander_n and_o bonaventure_n teach_v concern_v the_o sacrament_n of_o confirmation_n can_v be_v defend_v etc._n etc._n bellarm._n ibid._n c._n 23._o pag._n 127.128_o 129._o etc._n etc._n six_o bellarmine_n against_o catharinus_n there_o be_v a_o new_a heresy_n arisen_a in_o our_o time_n etc._n that_o the_o intention_n of_o the_o minister_n be_v not_o necessary_a in_o the_o sacrament_n to_o this_o opinion_n of_o the_o heretic_n ambrose_n catharinus_n come_v very_o near_o neither_o can_v i_o see_v wherein_o he_o differ_v from_o the_o opinion_n of_o kemnitius_n and_o other_o heretic_n save_v that_o in_o the_o end_n of_o his_o work_n he_o subject_n himself_o to_o the_o sea-apostolike_a and_o to_o the_o council_n both_o which_o they_o deride_v bellarm._n ibid._n c._n 27._o p._n 155._o note_v the_o same_o which_o he_o condemn_v for_o heretical_a in_o catharinus_n he_o grant_n to_o be_v hold_v by_o his_o st._n thomas_n in_o the_o chapter_n follow_v pag._n 169._o seven_o cajetan_v and_o ledesmius_n against_o thomas_n and_o other_o here_o be_v two_o opinion_n of_o divine_n for_o some_o sententias_fw-la as_o cajetan_n and_o ledesmius_n teach_v that_o in_o the_o minister_n there_o be_v no_o operative_a virtue_n as_o a_o efficient_a and_o instrumental_a cause_n as_o there_o be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n for_o in_o the_o word_n of_o the_o sacrament_n there_o be_v operative_a virtue_n but_o by_o dependence_n on_o the_o minister_n for_o then_o the_o word_n have_v virtue_n when_o they_o be_v conjoin_v with_o the_o virtue_n which_o be_v in_o the_o minister_n other_o hold_v that_o the_o minister_n have_v in_o himself_o no_o efficient_a power_n in_o respect_n of_o justification_n but_o that_o be_v only_o in_o the_o sacrament_n so_o thomas_n be_v think_v to_o hold_v 3._o part_n qu._n 64._o art_n 1._o and_o that_o the_o minister_n concurre_v only_o by_o apply_v the_o sacrament_n bellarm._n same_o book_n c._n 27._o pag._n 163._o eight_o bellarmine_n against_o ambrose_n catharinus_n etc._n the_o four_o argument_n be_v of_o catharinus_n from_o the_o authority_n of_o saint_n thomas_n chrysostome_n and_o pope_n nicholas_n of_o saint_n thomas_n who_o say_v that_o the_o intention_n of_o the_o church_n express_v in_o the_o very_a form_n of_o word_n be_v sufficient_a to_o make_v a_o perfect_a sacrament_n neither_o be_v any_o other_o intention_n require_v on_o the_o part_n of_o the_o minister_n etc._n etc._n and_o catharinus_n add_v a_o reason_n that_o it_o seem_v overhard_n that_o god_n shall_v put_v the_o salvation_n of_o man_n in_o the_o arbitrement_n of_o a_o wicked_a minister_n and_o so_o our_o justification_n shall_v be_v make_v uncertain_a this_o argument_n be_v already_o answer_v how_o he_o answer_v and_o confute_v this_o opinion_n and_o authority_n of_o catharinus_n see_v bellarmine_n ibid._n c._n 28._o pag._n 169._o nine_o bellarmine_n against_o ledesmius_n canus_n bonaventure_n scotus_n durand_n richardus_fw-la occam_fw-la marsilius_n gabriel_n that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v true_a cause_n of_o justification_n etc._n but_o moral_a cause_n not_o natural_a as_o he_o that_o command_v a_o murder_n be_v the_o true_a cause_n of_o it_o though_o he_o touch_v not_o the_o party_n murder_v be_v defend_v by_o ledesmius_n and_o canus_n in_o relict_n de_fw-fr sacram._n and_o the_o same_o seem_v to_o be_v hold_v by_o many_o of_o the_o old_a schoolman_n bonaventure_n scotus_n durand_n richardus_fw-la occam_fw-la marsilius_n gabriel_n who_o hold_v that_o the_o sacrament_n do_v true_o justify_v but_o yet_o that_o god_n only_o do_v work_v that_o grace_n at_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o sacrament_n so_o as_o the_o sacrament_n be_v not_o natural_a cause_n but_o such_o as_o without_o which_o this_o effect_n will_v not_o follow_v but_o i_o hold_v that_o the_o more_o probable_a and_o safe_a opinion_n which_o attribute_n a_o true_a efficiency_n to_o the_o sacrament_n bellarm._n of_o the_o effect_n of_o the_o sacram._n l._n 2._o c._n 11._o p._n 225._o ten_o the_o master_n of_o sentence_n against_o the_o common_a opinion_n there_o be_v therefore_o one_o question_n etc._n whether_o the_o old_a sacrament_n except_v circumcision_n do_v justify_v actual_o by_o the_o very_a work_n wrought_v and_o there_o be_v two_o opinion_n one_o of_o the_o master_n of_o sent._n in_o 4._o do_v 1_o which_o deny_v it_o for_o he_o say_v that_o those_o sacrament_n do_v not_o justify_v though_o they_o be_v do_v never_o so_o much_o in_o faith_n and_o charity_n the_o other_o be_v the_o common_a opinion_n of_o divine_n that_o all_o those_o sacrament_n do_v justify_v ex_fw-la opere_fw-la operantis_fw-la that_o be_v upon_o the_o faith_n and_o devotion_n of_o the_o receiver_n and_o this_o opinion_n be_v most_o true_a bellarm._n ibid._n c._n 13._o pag._n 239._o decad_n ii_o first_o alexander_n bonaventure_n scotus_n gabriel_n against_o thomas_n capreolus_n scotus_n ledesmius_n other_o etc._n etc._n circumcisione_n of_o circumcision_n there_o be_v two_o opinion_n one_o of_o alexander_n and_o bonaventure_n scotus_n and_o gabriel_n that_o circumcision_n do_v confer_v justification_n ex_fw-la opere_fw-la operato_fw-la upon_o the_o very_a act_n do_v which_o opinion_n be_v disprove_v by_o many_o argument_n where_o it_o be_v yet_o to_o be_v note_v that_o this_o opinion_n of_o they_o do_v not_o favour_v the_o heretic_n of_o our_o time_n for_o the_o heretic_n when_o they_o make_v the_o old_a sacrament_n equal_a to_o we_o do_v not_o extol_v the_o old_a but_o debase_v we_o but_o this_o opinion_n do_v not_o abase_v we_o but_o extol_v the_o ancient_a the_o other_o opinion_n be_v of_o saint_n thomas_n and_o capreolus_n scotus_n ledesmius_n and_o other_o that_o circumcision_n do_v by_o it_o own_o power_n justify_v but_o yet_o justify_v only_o as_o it_o be_v a_o protestation_n of_o our_o faith_n and_o as_o it_o apply_v faith_n to_o us._n this_o opinion_n be_v doubtless_o the_o more_o probable_a of_o the_o two_o bellarm._n ibid._n c._n 13._o p._n 236._o second_o durand_n scotus_n gabriel_n against_o the_o other_o papist_n etc._n that_o there_o be_v a_o certain_a spiritual_a stamp_n imprint_v in_o the_o mind_n in_o some_o sacrament_n which_o be_v call_v a_o character_n be_v the_o common_a opinion_n of_o catholik_o but_o it_o be_v to_o be_v note_v that_o some_o of_o our_o divine_n as_o durand_n scotus_n gabriel_n do_v indeed_o admit_v this_o stamp_n or_o character_n but_o yet_o teach_v something_o which_o seem_v to_o make_v for_o kemnitius_n and_o the_o heretic_n for_o durandus_fw-la hold_v that_o the_o character_n be_v not_o any_o real_a thing_n distinguish_v from_o the_o soul_n but_o be_v only_o a_o matter_n to_o be_v conceive_v in_o the_o mind_n and_o which_o have_v his_o be_v only_o in_o conceit_n but_o all_o other_o confess_v that_o the_o character_n be_v a_o real_a matter_n distinct_a from_o the_o soul_n bellarm._n ibid._n c._n 19_o pag._n 267._o three_o bellarmine_n against_o durandus_fw-la and_o scotus_n the_o character_n be_v not_o a_o mere_a relation_n etc._n but_o a_o absolute_a quality_n this_o be_v a_o common_a opinion_n except_v only_a scotus_n and_o durandus_fw-la durandus_fw-la in_o the_o place_n forecited_a hold_v it_o have_v only_o a_o be_v in_o conceit_n etc._n etc._n which_o opinion_n can_v scarce_o be_v distinguish_v from_o the_o heresy_n of_o this_o time_n and_o seem_v express_o condemn_v by_o counsel_n which_o if_o durandus_fw-la have_v see_v doubtless_o he_o will_v have_v teach_v otherwise_o and_o sure_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n in_o her_o curse_n of_o this_o opinion_n intend_v it_o against_o those_o which_o deny_v a_o real_a character_n scotus_n will_v have_v it_o a_o real_a relation_n but_o that_o can_v scarce_o be_v defend_v and_o there_o have_v not_o want_v many_o that_o have_v confute_v he_o sound_o bellarm._n ibid._n c._n 19_o pag._n 268._o four_o three_o opinion_n of_o papist_n substantia_fw-la some_o of_o our_o doctor_n hold_v this_o character_n to_o be_v in_o the_o understanding_n other_o place_v it_o in_o the_o will_n because_o they_o think_v it_o dispose_v we_o to_o charity_n which_o be_v in_o the_o will_n other_o hold_v it_o simple_o to_o be_v in_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o soul_n and_o this_o seem_v the_o true_a opinion_n bellarm._n ibid._n c._n 19_o p._n 270._o five_o scotus_n against_o thomas_n etc._n neither_o circumcision_n nor_o any_o sacrament_n of_o the_o old_a law_n do_v imprint_v any_o character_n in_o the_o soul_n so_o hold_v saint_n thomas_n ●_o scotus_n think_v the_o contrary_a concern_v circumcision_n but_o the_o opinion_n of_o thomas_n be_v true_a bellarm._n ibid._n cap._n 19_o pag._n 271._o six_o bernard_n hugo_n lombard_n pope_n nicholas_n against_o all_o other_o divine_n &c_n beside_o these_o error_n there_o be_v a_o very_a incommodious_a opinion_n of_o many_o catholic_n who_o have_v think_v that_o the_o invocation_n of_o one_o person_n in_o the_o trinity_n and_o especial_o of_o christ_n be_v sufficient_a to_o baptism_n so_o seem_v to_o hold_v s._n