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A06635 Via tuta the safe vvay. Leading all Christians, by the testimonies, and confessions of our best learned aduersaries, to the true, ancient, and catholique faith, now professed in the Church of England. By Humfrey Lynde Knight. Lynde, Humphrey, Sir. 1628 (1628) STC 17097; ESTC S109009 96,512 358

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Christ and the rites receiued in the solemne administration of them all I do embrace 4. I admit and receiue all those points touching originall sinne and Iustification which are defined and declared by the Councell of Trent 5. I professe that there is a true proper and propitiatorie sacrifice offered to God in the Masse both for the quicke and the dead and that in the Eucharist the Bread and the Wine are Transubstantiated into the bodie and bloud of Christ 6. I acknowledge that vnder one kind whole and perfect Christ and the true Sacrament is receiued 7. I doe constantly hold that there is Purgatorie and that the soules there detained are helped by the Prayers of the faithfull 8. I hold that the Saints are to bee worshipped and called vpon and that they offer prayers for vs vnto God and that their relickes are to be worshipped 9. I doe resolutely affirme that the Images of Christ and of the Virgin Marie and also of other Saints are to be had and retained and that due honor and veneration is to bee yeelded to them 10. I do hold that the power of Indulgences was left by Christ in the Church and that the vse of them is most wholsome to Christian people 11. I acknowledge the holy Catholike and Apostolicke Romane Church to be the Mother and Mistrisse of all Churches and I promise and sweare true obedience to the Bishop of Rome the successor of Saint Peter the Prince of the Apostles and the Vicar of Iesus Christ 12. I vndoubtedly receiue and professe all other things deliuered defined and declared by the holy Canons and Oecumenicall Councels especially by the holy Synod of Trent c. The ten Commandements 1. I Am thy Lord God The Christiā doctrine cōposed by the Reuerēd Father Iames Ledesma Priest of the societie of Iesus and printed permessu Superiorum An. 1609. 1624. Thou shalt haue no other Gods but me 2. Thou shalt not take the name of God in vaine 3. Remember to sanctifie the holy-dayes 4. Honour thy father and mother 5. Thou shalt not kill 6. Thou shalt not commit adulterie 7. Thou shalt not steale 8. Thou shalt not beare false witnesse 9. Thou shalt not desire thy neighbours wife 10. Thou shalt not desire thy neighbours goods The Contents Sect. 1. THe causelesse bitternesse of the Church of Rome against the Reformed Churches pag. 1 Sect. 2. The occasion of the contention betwixt the Churches originally proceeded from the Romanists by their owne confession p. 10. Sect. 3. Corruptions both in faith and manners confessed by the members of the Romane Church and yet the Reformation denyed by the Pope and why c. p 18 Sect 4. Many learned Romanists conuicted by the euidence of Truth either in part or in whole haue renounced Poperie before their death p. 26. Sect. 5. Worldly policie and profit hinders the Reformation of such things which are altogether inexcusable in themselues p. 35. Sect. 6. The common pretence of our Aduersaries refusing reformation because we cannot assigne the precise time when errors came in Refuted p. 43. Sect. 7. The pedigree of the Romish faith drawne downe from the ancient heretiques and the Protestant faith deriued from Christ and his Apostles p. 59. Sect. 8. The Testimonies of our Aduersaries touching the Antiquitie and vniuersality of the Protestant faith in generall p. 68. Sect. 9. The Testimonies of our Aduersaries touching the Protestant and the Roman faith in these particular paragraphes 1. Iustification by faith onely p. 80. 2. The Sacrament of the Lords Supper and the doctrine of Transubstantiation p 86. 3. Priuate Masse p 116. 4. Seuen Sacraments p 132. 5. Communion in both kinds p. 164. 6. Prayer and Seruice in a known tongue p. 175 7. Worship of Images p. 189. 8. Indulgences p. 211. Sect 10. The Testimonies of our Aduersaries touching the infallible certaintie of the Protestant faith and the vncertaintie of the Romish p. 233. Sect. 11. The Testimonies of our Aduersaries touching the greater safety comfort and benefit of the soule in the Protestant faith then in the Romish pag. 249. Sect. 12. Our Aduersaries conuicted by the euident Testimonies of the ancient Fathers either ridiculously elude them or plainly reiect them p 263. Sect. 13. Our Aduersaries conuinced of a bad cause and an euill conscience by razing of our Records and clipping their owne Authors tongues p. 272. Sect. 14. Our Aduersaries conuicted of their defence of a desperate cause by their blasphemous exception against the Scripture it selfe 278. Sect. 15. Our chiefest Aduersarie Cardinall Bellarmine testifies the truth of our doctrine in the principall points of controuersie betwixt vs. p 287. Sect. 16. Our Aduersaries obiection drawne from the Testimonies of pretended Martyrs of their Religion Answered p 295. Sect. 17. Our Aduersaries common obiection drawne from the charitable opinion of Protestants touching the saluation of professed Romanists liuing and dying in their Church Answered p. 303. Sect. 18. Prouing according to the Title of the booke by the confession of all sides that the Protestants Religion is safer because in all positiue points of doctrine the Romanists themselues agree with vs but in their additions they stand single by themselues p 315. The safe Way Sect. 1. The causlesse bitternesse of the Church of Rome against the Reformed Churches WE reade in the Ecclesiastical History when the ancient Christians at Antioch fell at variance amongst themselues Theodoret sought by a fauourable report to allay the bitternesse of their Contention with these words Both parts make one and the same Confession of their faith Theod. lib 3. Hist. Eccles cap. 4. For both maintaine the Creed of the Nicene Councell The beautifull and sacred name of Truth speakes peace to all and that louely name of Peace giues that sweet counsell to all Christians which Abraham gaue to Lot Gen 13.8 Let there be no strife betwixt me and thee for wee be brethren If the Church of Rome had loued Truth and Peace without doubt the common bond of Christianity and the Creed which is the generall Cognizance of our faith would haue incited them to the like fauourable construction of the Controuersies of this age and the rather because their owne learned Cardinall professeth Bellar de Verbo Dei l. 4. c. 11. Primū Nota Secundò That the Apostles neuer propounded as Common Articles of faith other things then the Articles of the Apostles Creed the ten Commandements some few of the Sacramēts because saith he these things are simply necessarie and profitable for all men the rest are such as a man may be saued without them But such is the nature of the malignant Church and for that cause the Church of Rome is rightly deciphered by that name that instead of qualifying the vnquenchable broyles and intirely preseruing the seamelesse garment of Christ Camp 1. Rat. Jewel Harding pa. 222. 178. shee ●●rmes vs Heretiques hell●ounds of Swinglius Luthers whelpes Turkish Hugenots damned
persons and worse then Infidels which vnchristian speeches dipt in lye and gall giue vs iust cause to say with Austen Quotidiana fornax nostra aduersariorilingua Aug. Confess lib. 10. c. 37. Our daily fornace is our aduersaries tongue It cannot bee denied that the reformed and the ancient Romane Church are two Sisters both descended from one and the same Catholike and vniuersall Mother of vs all but when the world shall vnderstand that the Romish Sister hath lost her breasts or at least-wise giueth her Children little or no sincere milke out of her two breasts the two Testaments when the world shall plainely discerne that shee doth daily practise spirituall fornication with the inhabitants of the earth when it shall be witnessed by her selfe that her Sister hath kept her first loue and continued her ancient birth-right from the time of the Apostles to the dayes of Luther Will it not seeme a strange folly or a wilful madnesse to quarrell with her Sister because she will not follow her vnknowne wayes and go a whoring after her inuentions If for no other cause yet for this alone because she played the Harlot her Sister might better iustifie a separation from her then to retaine fellowship with her lewdnesse It is the counsell of the Prophet Hos 4.15.17 If Ephraim be ioyned to Idols let him alone If Israel play the Harlot let not Iuda sinne Babylon was a true Church with which sometimes the religious did communicate but after it was more depraued the faithfull are commanded to go out of her and for that cause Abraham was commanded to go forth of Caldea wherein hee was borne because the inhabitants of the countrey were idolators and the Hebrewes were led out of Egypt by Moses and Aaron because the Egyptians were giuen to vaine superstitions such is our departure from the Church of Rome or rather from the errours of that Church that hath departed from her selfe and for that cause Non fugimus sed fugamur we left her vnwillingly not voluntarily That we bee not partakers of her sinne Reu. 18.4 and that wee receiue not of her plagues That saying of Erasmus was no lesse true then wittie who being demanded of the Duke of Saxonie what was Luthers capitall offence that stirred vp so many opposites against him made answer Luther had committed two great sinnes for he had taken away the Crowne from the Pope and had taken downe the belly of the Monkes and surely setting aside the Popes Lordlines and the luxurie of Priests it shall appeare there is no such cause why she should breathe out Anathemas Curses Excommunications with a Tradatur Satanae let her Sister be deliuered to Satan There is no such cause why shee should daily entertaine Iewes into her bosome when a poore Christian soule a beleeuing Protestant may not approch to her sanctuary for feare of the Inquisition Nobis non licet esse tam disertos The children of this world are wiser in their generation then wee professe our selues to be For as touching the twelue Articles of the Apostles Creed which are the maine parts of the Christian Truth Hoochers Ecclesiasticall Politis and wherein the Church of Rome doth still persist we gladly acknowledge her to bee of the family of Iesus saith Hooker and that which Saint Paul witnessed of the Israelites that in one respect they were enemies Rom. 11.28 but in another they were beloued of God so likewise as concerning the word of God and the Apostles Creed we giue the Church of Rome her due but in another respect as she hath created twelue new Articles and coyned new expositions vpon the old farre different from the doctrine of the Apostles as she depends vpon customarie Tenents which makes their chiefe claime by Tradition as shee relyes vpon the Church for the last resolutiō of faith as she maintaineth and practiseth manifest and manifold Idolatrie as she derogateth from the high price of our Redemption by adding their owne merits and satisfactions to the Merits of Christ as she aduanceth the Pope for the Lord Paramont aboue all that are called Gods In these and many like respects we say her Tenure is meane and base her Tenets are subiect to alienation her Articles are euidences of an vnknowne Truth her vnwritten verities are prescriptions within the memorie of man her Title is vsurpation her confidence is presumption her deuotion is superstition and shee her selfe a professed enemy to the Gospell Sect. 2. The occasion of the contention betwixt the Churches originally proceeded from the Romanists by their owne confession BVt before we enter into the debates and differences of these times it will not be amisse to looke backe and examine the cause of this great calamitie and distraction in the Christian Church and to inquire by whom and what meanes this bitter contention is fallen out betwixt two Sisters Cassander a learned Papist tooke speciall notice that these two sisters were fallen asunder euen to the diuiding of the houshold hee obserued the Author of those fresh bleeding wounds and accordingly as an eye-witnesse of those differences protesteth openly that the fault is to bee layed vpon those which being puffed vp with vaine insolent conceits of their Ecclesiasticall power Cassand Consult 56. 57. proudly and scornefully contemned and reiected them which did rightly and modestly admonish the reformation If we shall further inquire of him what remedy to apply to such incurable diseases he professeth seriously that the Church can neuer hope for any firme peace vnlesse they begin to make it which haue giuen the cause of that distraction If we further presse him for his aduise how to procure that Peace from them which first occasioned the falling off he replies and confidently assures vs that this cannot be effected vnlesse those which are in place of Ecclesiasticall gouernment would be content to remit some thing of their too much rigour and yeeld somewhat to the peace of the Church and hearkening vnto the earnest prayers and admonitions of many godly men will set themselues to correct manifest abuses according to the rule of diuine Scriptures and the Primitiue Church from which they haue swerued Here is a plaine confession of a learned Romanist that many abuses are crept into the Romane Church here is likewise an acknowledgement of a distemperature that proceedeth from the head and we know when the head is distempered commonly the whole body is out of order Now to rectifie these abuses he prescribes a Rule which is the holy Scriptures and he sets before vs an ancient patterne for our instruction which is the Primitiue Church If the Scripture be the rule of Truth and the ancient doctrine be the patterne of a true Church how can our Religion bee charged with heresie which professeth the Scripture to be the sole rule of faith or how can it be iustly accused of Noueltie as deriued from Luther when it is a Canon published for the direction of Preachers and Pastors
sanctos electos suos non vt aestimator meriti sed vt veniae largitor admitta● Bellar. Test pag 89. Ricard Tapp explic artic Theolog. Louan tom 2. art 8. in his last Will and his last words he sounds a retreate and beggeth pardon at the hands of God Not as a valuer of merits but as a giuer of mercie And their owne Albertus Piggius who did bitterly inueigh against our Church and doctrine especially in the point of Iustification by reading of Caluins Institutions with a purpose to confute them in that very point Controu 2. tit de Instito fol. 50. became himselfe a Caluinist neither was it his case alone but Paulus Vergerius a Romish Bishop Episcopus Iustino-politareus who in like manner began to write a booke against the Protestants which he intituled Adnersus Apostatas Germaniae against the Apostates of Germanie after he had examined their bookes and weighed their arguments with a purpose to confute them found himselfe taken and vanquished and laying aside the hope of a Cardinalship which at that time the Pope intended him Sleida Comment Relig. lib. 21. hee trauelled to Pola where Germanus his brother a Romish Bishop was residing and after much debate and conference had of the doctrine of Iustification his brother also yeelded and protested against the Romish doctrine and both with mutuall ioy and consent of minds professed and proclaimed the Protestant faith to all beleeuers Sect. 5. Worldly pollicie and profit hinders the Reformation of such things which are altogether inexcusable in themselues I Speake not this as if there were hope of a Reformation in the Romane Church For when I consider that many opinions which formerly crept in the Church are now established for Articles of faith when I consider that some of their points are so linked together that the vnloosing of one is sometimes the losse of all when I plainely see vpon one point of faith namely one Purgatorie Trentals Masses Diriges Requiems Prayers for the dead the doctrine of Merits works of Supererogation Indulgences Pardons Iubilies the power of binding and loosing since I say all these attend vpon the opening and shutting of Purgatorie and this Purgatory is created a point of faith and this faith is confirmed by Councels meerly for the benefit of the Pope and Clergie What hope can wee haue to get these golden keyes of Purgatorie from them by what means can we procure them to exercise the facultie of shutting as well as opening the power of binding as well as loosing when no man will giue mony to be bound but to be loosed in Purgatory Againe when I consider the saying of Maldonat the Iesuite daily practised by the Church of Rome against our Church and doctrine Mald. Comment in Ioh. 6.62 viz. Although I haue no other Author for my exposition but my selfe yet I allow it rather then Austens Although his be most probable because this of mine doth more crosse the sense of the Caluinists When I say our Religion is directly and immediatly deriued from the Scripture when our doctrine agreeth in the fundamentall points with Saint Austen and the Fathers when the Primitiue and Reformed Churches haue shakē hands together is it not a meere malice to oppose a knowne ancient doctrine and to make a league against God and his Word against the true religion her Church They are base wits saith Viues which are so affected Viues Lib. de causis art corrupt whereas ingenious minds and natures well giuen will rather seeke how true that is which they hold then how they may defend it making greater price of veritie then victorie yet it cannot be denied that this is the common practise of the Romane Church for otherwise what man in his right senses would take vpon him to be wiser then God and in their Psalters leaue out the second Commandement hazard that heauie doome Cursed bee he that addeth or detracteth from the least of these sayings Reu. 22.18.19 What sense is there that the Church of Rome should presume to alter Christs Institution and take away the Cup from the Laitie when it is confessed by their owne generall Councell Concil Constant Ses 13. that Christ did institute the Cup for the people and the Primitiue Church did continue it in both kinds what reason can be alledged why an ignorant man should pray without vnderstanding when the Apostle commands vs to pray with the Spirit 1. Cor. 14. and to pray with the vnderstanding also What discretion should leade men to inuocate Saints and Angels when the Apostle doth make this vnanswerable question How shall they call vpon him in whom they haue not beleeued Rom. 10.14 What confidence and assurance of humane frailtie should cause them to leane to leane to a broken staffe of their own merits when they may safely relye vpon the sole merits of Christ Iesus What madnes is it to adore a peece of bread which depends vpon the intention of another man seeing his intention may faile and cause flat idolatrie in the worshipper when they may safely certainly adore Christ Iesus sitting at the right hand of the Father What stupiditie is it to worship a picture the worke of mens hands and to aduenture idolatry vpon nice distinctions when without danger they may worship the true God in Spirit and truth Ioh. 4.24 as he will be worshipped Lastly what foolishnes is it for man to relye vpon the Church which is the authority of man that may erre when he may build vpon the infallible rule of Gods word which is agreed on all hands that cannot erre If men for aduantage of their cause or for their owne preferment will by shifts and cauils turne the necks of Scriptures and Fathers cleane about and wrest them to their owne side let them beware of their example who could not beleeue or if they did beleeue durst not confesse Christ Because they sought the praise of men more then the praise of God! Ioh. 5.44 Sect. 6. The common pretence of our Aduersaries refusing Reformation because we cannot assigne the precise time when errours came in Refuted HOw farre the Church of Rome stands guilty of this crime I wil not take vpon me to censure but sure I am they are so far from reforming the abuses and errors in their Church that they will not acknowledge their points of doctrine to be errouious vnlesse we can assigne the time and point at the persons who first broached them Now since we are all eye witnesses that the errors of the Romish Church are at this day so notorious that a very child may reprehend them it were more fit as I conceiue to redeeme the time by correcting those errors that crept into the Church then to enquire after times and persons which are not in their hands If a man be sicke of a Consumption wil he refuse helpe of the Physitian except he can resolue him whether his Lungs or his Liuer
idolatrie Erasmus Vnto Saint Hieromes time those of the true Religion would suffer no Image neither painted nor grauen in the Church no not the picture of Christ Cornelius Agrippa The corrupt manners and false Religion of the Gentiles hath infected our Religion brought into the Church Images and pictures with many ceremonies of externall pompe none whereof was found amongst the first and true Christians Wicelius I confesse it doth griue me that vnder pretence of I know not what Dulia it is affirmed that one may and ought to honour with adoration the Saints and their Images The Fathers of the ancient Church haue taught the people that they must honour but not worship the Saints Chemnit exā de Imag. p. 41. The Councell of Frankford It is not to be found that any of the Patriarckes and Prophets or Fathers did adore Images but the Scriptures crie out to worship one Image God and him onely to adore and glorifie and the Fathers of the Primitiue Church did forbeare the adoration of Images as it appeares by Epiphanius and Augustine And others who reckon the worshippers of Images amongst the Symonians and the Carpocratian heretiques and this was the approoued doctrine deliuered and decreed by three hundred Bishops in the yeare 794. From this confession a doubt will arise touching the lawfulnesse of making Images viz. for that end to adore them and another doubt will follow adoration in what manner it ought to be extended to the Image or restrained Touching the first Bellarmine saith Bellar. de Relig Imag. Sanct. lib. 2. c. 7. It is proued by the Diuine Law that Images were not absolutely forbidden by reason the brazen Serpent c. were made by Gods command He that professeth they were not absolutely forbidden implies they were in a manner forbidden or rather that there is no place of Scripture that commands the contrarie for adoration which an Article of faith doth require but the Cardinals reason that the making of them is not absolutely forbidden by the Law of God because God commanded Images to be made seemes to bee no reason for the Iewes could answer God did lay a generall command vpon men and not vpon himselfe besides that plea for Images which the Cardinall makes was the ancient Apologie which the Idolaters vsed for their Images in the first ages Tertullian puts the question and returnes an excellent answer which may serue for him and vs. Sed dit quidam c. cur ergo Moses in Eremo simulachrum Serpentis ex aere fecit benè quod idem Deus lege ve●●●it similitudinē fieri extraordinarie praecepto Serpentis similitudinem interdixit Si cundem Deum obsernas habes legē eius Ne feceris similitudinem si praeceptum factae postea similitudinis respicis tu imitare Moysen Ne facias aduersus legem simulacrum aliquod nisi tibi Deus iusserit Tertul. lib. de Idolat p. 618. Some will obiect why did Moses make the Image of the brasen Serpent in the Wildernes well and good one and the same God hath by his generall Law forbidden an Image to be made and also by his extraordinarie and speciall commandement an Image of a Serpent to be made If thou be obedient to the same God thou hast his Law make thou no Image but if thou haue a regard to the Image of the Serpent make not any Image against the Law vnlesse God command thee as he did Moses and thus briefly concerning the making of them Concerning the worship of them the same Cardinall tels vs Nos cum Ecclesiâ asserimus c. Wee affirme with the Church that the Images of Christ and his Saints are to be honoured so that there bee no confidence placed in them nor nothing requested of them nor no Diuinity be conceiued to bee in them but that they be honoured onely for themselues whom they represent and thus by Bellarmines reasons the making of Images is not absolutely forbidden and the adoration of them is but conditionally permitted and surely I could wish they were absolutely forbidden by them till those conditions were rightly and truely performed by the ignorant and Lay people for I will not slander them it is the confession of their owne Church men that there are many of the rude and ignorant which worship the very Images of wood or stone Polyd. Virgil. de Inuent lib. 6. c. 13. or marble or brasse or pictures painted vpon the wals not as figures but as if they had verily sense and doe put more trust in them then they doe in Christ or other Saints to whom they are dedicated Neither is this any new complaint for this latter age Gab. Biel in Can. Lect. 14. for Gabriel Biel there owne Schooleman complained before Luthers daies that the blockish errour of certaine people was so great and they were so affected to Images that they thought some diuine grace or Sanctitie resided in them by which they were able to worke miracles and giue health and for that cause they worshipped them to the end they might obtaine some such benefit at their hands and that we may further know that none of Bellarmines conditions are performed in the worshipping of Images Cornel. Agrippa de vanit c. 57. Their owne Cornelius Agrippa declares the peoples demeanour and carriage towards them in the Roman Church in this manner Wee bowe our heads to them wee kisse them we offer lights to them we hang vp gifts we apply miracles and buy pardōs of them to conclude we goe a pilgrimage to them we make vowes vnto them we inwardly worship them as well as outwardly neither can it be vttered with how great superstition I may not say Idolatrie the rude and ignorant are nourished in Images the Priests winke thereat and reape thereby no small gaine to their purses The conditions then are confessed to bee broken but withall heere wee finde the case of Demetrius he made siluer shrines and brought no small gaine to the craftsmen and thereupon hee cryeth out Acts 19.25 Sirs you know that by this craft we haue our wealth nor that onely but if these things should be denied the Temple of the Great Diana would bee despised whom all the world worshippeth Here is a true Modell of the Romane Church she causeth Images to be made she drawes from them no small aduantage nor that onely but if they should condemne their worship being published for an Article of faith other Articles would bee questioned and the Church of Rome would bee disesteemed whom all the world admireth Since therefore the worship of Images wants the vniuersalitie and consent of Fathers in the Primitiue Church since they haue no foundation no footstep in the Word of God by the confession of their owne Church Saint Austins confession shall be my conclusion for this Article of Faith If wee or an Angell from heauen preach vnto you any thing concerning faith and life besides that you haue receiued in the
Thou art Christ the Sonne of the liuing God will I build my Church what saith the Romanists to this doctrine Stapl. princip doctr lib. 6. c. 3. Bell. lib. 1. de Pontif. c. 10. Stapleton answers It was lapsus humanus a humane error caused by the diuersity of the Greeke and Latine tongue which either he was ignorant of or marked not Touching the Communion in both kinds 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 c. In latinis codicibus non habetur vnus calix omnibus distributus de Euch. lib. 4. cap. 26. Ignatius saith One cup is distributed to all what saith Bellarmine to this doctrine In the Latine bookes it is not found that one cup is giuen to all but for all Ego vt libere pronunciem sententiam meam suspicor hunc locum fuisse ab haereticis deprauatam Senens in Biblio Sancta lib. 6. annot 66. Touching the Sacrament of Christs body Origen saith The body of Christ is typicall and Symbolicall what saith Senensis to this doctrine To speake my minde freely I suspect this place to bee corrupted Touching Transubstantiation Theodoretus de alijs quibusdam erroribus in Concilio Ephesino notatus fuit etiamsi posteà resipuit Gregor de Valentià in lib. de Transub c. 7. Sect. 11. Theodoret saith the substance of bread and wine ceaseth not in the Sacrament what answer the Romanists to this doctrine Gregorie de Valentia saith Theodoret did erre in the Councell of Ephesus although he afterwards repented it Touching our Iustification by faith onely Vna sola virtus iustificat Fides quae est virtutum fastidium Chrys serm in Psal 14. Tom. 1. Hanc Homiliam neque apud Graecos puto haeberi neque in eá Chrysostomū agnosco Notatio in B. Chrys ad finē Tom. 5. Chrysostome saith Faith alone doth iustifie c. what saith Nobilius Flaminius to this doctrine I doe not thinke this Homilie is receiued in Greeke neither doe I acknowledge it to be Chrysostomes Touching Images in Churches Epiphanius saith hee found a vaile at the entrance of the Church representing the Image of Christ or some Saint Verba illa non sunt Epiphanij sed supposititià Sāder de Imag. lib. 2. Sunt potius alicuius Iconoclastarum figmentum quam epiphanij germanū scriptum Baron annal ad anno 392. num 59. and commanded it to be taken downe and buried what saith Sanders to this doctrine they are not the words of Epiphanius but some counterfeit they are the words saith Baronius of some Image breaker Touching Traditions and vnwritten verities Saint Cyprian saith From whence is this tradition for the Lord commanded vs to doe those things which are written what saith Bellarmine to this doctrine Respondeo Cyprianam haec scripsisse cum errorem suam tueri vellet Bell. de verbo Dei lib. 4. c. 11. Saint Cyprian thought to defend his owne error and therefore it is no maruaile if hee erred in so reasoning Chry. Homil. 3. in Epist ad Ephes Dico Chrysostomū vt quaedam alia per excessū ita esse locutum cum solum hortari cuperet homines ad frequenter dignè communicandum Bellar. lib. 2. de Missa c. 10. Touching Priuate Masse Chrysostome saith It is better not to bee present at the Sacrifice then to be present and not communicate with the priest what saith Bellarmine to this doctrine Chrysostome spake this as at other times by exceeding the truth when he would incite men frequently and worthily to communicate Nihil aliud diconisimore Poetico lusisse Prudentium Bellar. lib. 2. de Purgat c. 16. Againe if we cite Prudentius Bellarmine answers I say no more of him but that hee played the Poet. If we obiect Tertullian Non magni facienda est eius authoritas cum contradicit alijs Patribus cum constat eum hominem Ecclesiae non fuisse Bellar. lib. 3. de Euchar c. 6. Originē plenum fuisse erroribus quos ecclesia semper detestata est Ribera in Malach. in proc●m Hieronymus no est Regula Fidei Canus in Theolog. locis lib. 2. 11. Iustini Irenai Epiphanij atque Oecumenij sententiam non vid●o quo pacto ab errore possimus defendere Bellar. lib. 1. de sanct cap. 6. Locum ab authoritate esse infirmum vt prudens quidem pastor dixit Pauperis est c. in iudicio plurimorum non acquiesces Salmer Rom. 5. disput 51. Bellarmine answers His authority is of no great account when he contradicts other Fathers and when it appeares he was no man of the Church If we produce Origen Ribera the Iesuite saith He was full of errors which the Church alwaies detested If we cite Hierome Canus makes answer Hierom is no rule of faith If we cite Iustin Irenaeus Epiphanius and Oecumenius Bellarmine answers I see not how we can defend these men from error Lastly if wee produce the vniforme consent of Fathers against the immaculate conception of the blessed Virgin Salmeron the Iesuite makes answer weake is the place which is drawne from authority for Pauperis est numerare pecus It is the signe of a poore man to number his cattell Thus in behalfe of the Protestant doctrine you haue heard the proofe of the Romish witnesses in the chife points made good by the testimōies of the Fathers themselues you haue heard likewise notwithstanding their great vaunt of the Fathers how lightly they regard them or reiect them when they speake not Placentia agreeable to their Church and doctrine and that no man may doubt many in the bosomes of their owne Church haue spoken freely and truely in many particular points of doctrine both with vs and against their owne Tenets behold it is so truely felt and commonly vnderstood that the Church hath complained to the Inquisitors and the Inquisitors haue sent out Melius Inquirendum a new writ of enquirie after such delinquents and haue censured them with a Deleatur in those passages that make either for our doctrine or against their owne Sect. 13. Our aduersaries conuinced of a bad cause and an euill conscience by razing of our Records and clipping their owne Authors tongues In Bibli Roberti Stephani c. 7. Deuteron IN the Margent of the Bible it is declared God forbids grauen Images to bee made what say the Inquisitors to this Ind. Exp. Quiroga fol. 8. Delcatur let that passage bee strucken out The Glosse vpon Gratian saith Teste Ioh. Pappo in Jndic Belgic p. 333. The Priest cannot say significatiuely of the bread This is my body without telling of a lie what say the Inquisitors to this doctrine Deleatur let that old leauen be cast out Cassander wrote a whole tract for the Communion in both kindes Jnd. Exp. Belgic pag. 38. what say the Inquisitors to this Deleatur let the whole Tract be blotted out C. Caietan saith Ex Catholicis solus Caietanus in Commentario huius Articuli qui iussu Pij Quinti in Romana
Touching faith and good workes it is Bellarmines confession Bell. de Justif l. 3. c. 6. The Protestants doe not deny but that faith and repentance are requisite that is a liuely faith and an earnest repentance and that without them no man can be iustified Lastly touching Iustification by faith onely it is Bellarmines confession Idem l. 5. c. 7. For feare of vaine glorie and by reason of the vncertaintie of our workes Tutissimum it is the safest way to relie wholly on the mercy of God I begge not of our Aduersaries the points in question betwixt vs but I wonder rather why they should send out such Anathemas and curses against all or any of those that denie their doctrine when as their best learned confesse that many principall points of their owne Religion yea many Articles of faith are neither ancient safe nor Catholike It is not the name of Catholique which they assume that makes good the Catholique doctrine neither is it the opinion of the great learning or the multitude on that side which must out face the truth for our Sauiour Christ doth especially note the members of his body by the name of a Little flocke Feare not little flocke Luk. 12.32 as if the paucitie of true beleeuers were the speciall Caracter of the true Church and as for the learned on that side You see your calling brethren saith the Apostle Not many wise men after the flesh 1. Cor. 1. 26. not many mightie not many noble are called And if our aduersaries list to assume all learning and knowledge vnto themselues I enuie not their great wisedome but I rather admire with wonder and pitie Mat. 11.25 and I thanke thee O Father Lord of heauen and earth because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent and hast reuealed them vnto babes And if our aduersaries please to reflect vpon their owne Religion they shall find likewise that the principall markes of the Romane Church were discouered and foretold long since by Christ and his Apostles that it should bee after the working of Sathan with all power and signes and lying wonders and wee know such miracles are the special caracters of the Roman Church The Spirit of God foresaw that their doctrine would consist in forginges not onely of Fathers of Councels of Schoolemen but of daily miracles in their Church and for this deceiueablenesse of vnrighteousnesse because they receiued not the loue of truth that they might be saued their iudgement was foretold and is now accomplished 2. Thess 2.11 God shall send them strong delusions and they shall beleeue lyes I list not to insist vpon such feyned miracles wrought either by their Priests or by their companions for lucre sake Aliquandò in Ecclesia fit maxima deceptio populi in miraculu fictis in Sacerdotibus Nich. Lyra in Dan. ca. 14. It is sufficient that their owne Schoolemen confesse it but I professe with Austin As they were necessarie before the world beleeued to induce it to beleeue so hee that seeketh to be confirmed by wonders now is to be wondred as most of all himselfe in refusing to beleeue what all the world beleeues besides himselfe Sect. 16. Our Aduersaries obiection drawne from the Testimomonies of pretended Martyrs of their Religion answered BVt obserue the cunning and policie of these men they are not contented to claime an interest in all ancient and orthodoxe Authors in behalfe of their Church but they would seeme to confirme the truth of their doctrine by the sufferings of Saints and testimonies of holy Martyrs Camp Rat. 10 Let vs ascend into Heauen by imagination saith Campian and there we shall find such as through martyrdome are as ruddie as the Rose and also such as for their innocencie while they liued do glister as beautifully as the white Lillies there may we see three and thirtie Bishops of Rome which for their faith were immediatly murdered one after another Thou shalt find that they liued here and dyed members of the Catholike Church I confesse the name of Martyrdome carries some shew in honor of the Church of Rome but the truth being weighed in the ballance of sinceritie it will appeare but a braggeful of froth vaine glorie for if those Martyrs and Bishops neither suffered for that faith at the time of their deaths nor in all their liues receiued that faith which is now published with Anathema to all them that beleeue it not surely those Saints and Martyrs will neuer bee found to haue liued and died members of their Church although they died Martyrs in the ancient Romane Church Let vs examine some particulars did euer any Martyr die vpon confidence of his owne merits or dare any Romanist suffer death in iustification of his owne righteousnesse was there any of those three and thirtie Bishops canonized a Saint for his adoration giuen to Images Did euer any Martyr take it vpō his death or dare any Romish priest die vpon this confidence that he hath absolute power to remit sinnes to dispense with oaths to create in the Sacrament the Creator of heauen and earth Did euer any ancient Martyr teach that the Scripture was vnperfect without the helpe of Traditions or dare any Romanist take it vpon his death that all the vnwritten verities now taught and receiued in the Church of Rome are of equall authoritie with the Scripture Did euer any Martyr take it vpon his death or dare any Romish Priest die vpon confidence that the consecrated bread depending vpon the Intention of the Priest is the corporall and reall flesh of Christ It was the case of certaine Masse priests now or lately liuing and in particular of F. Garnet who beeing demanded whether if hee were to consecrate the Sacramēt that morning he should suffer death durst after consecration pronounce openly ouer the Cup B. Andrewes resp ad Apolog Bellar. ● 1 p. 7. If this wine in the Cup whose accidents you see bee not the very bloud of Christ which flowed from his side as he hung vpon the crosse let mee haue no part either in the bloud of Christ or with Christ hereafter F. Garnet as a man perplexed made answer It might iustly bee doubted neither did he conceiue that any one was bound rashly to endanger his saluation by assuming vpon his death that any Indiuiduall Priest at a time certaine did transubstantiat the bread into the bodie of Christ but peraduenture in generall and indefinitely saith he it may bee resolued that Transubstantiation is made Ab aliquo Alicubi Aliquandò By some Priest in some place at sometime And as concerning the Saints and Martyrs of the ancient Church it is vndoubtedly true that they could not die in that faith nor for that Religion which was altogether vnknowne to their Church The doctrine of Priuate Masse the Communion in one kinde the Prayer in an vnknowne tongue the works of Supererogation the peremptorie number of seuen Sacraments the power of
and keepe his commandements according to that measure and knowledge of Grace which they haue receiued and liue for outward things in the Vnitie of the Church where they dwell such men I say otherwise morallie good and relying wholy on the merits and sole mercie of Christ Iesus that is liuing Papists and dying Protestāts in the principall foundation of our faith may finde mercy because they did it ignorantly 1 Tim. 1.14 This is the best construction charitie can afford them and yet this is no certainty but a bare possibilitie They may be saued I must confesse I doe encline to the charitable opinion of euery poore ignorant soule for what haue I to doe to iudge another mans seruant seeing hee standeth or falleth to his owne Master but I take God and his holy Angels to witnesse that had I ten thousand soules I would not aduenture one of them in the Romane faith and the Romane Church for howsoeuer I will not I dare not pronounce damnation vpon their persons as they doe on ours yet I will proclaime confidently and openly to all the world that their doctrine is damnable Farre be it from the thoughts of good men to thinke the points in controuersie betwixt them and vs are of an inferior alloy that a man may resolue this way or that way without perill of hu saluation The fresh bleeding wounds and sufferings of holy men blessed Martyrs in our church doe sufficientlie witnes the great danger in their Religion and the difference betwixt vs and that you may yet further know the best learned of our Church were farre from granting saluation to any Papist liuing and dying a professed Papist in the knowledge and beliefe of the present Romane faith our Reuerend Whitakers sends this summons to the great Champion of the Roman Church Whit. Cāp Rat. 10. Suruey heauen it selfe and all the heauenly host looke well into all the parts and coasts of it whilest you list you shall not finde there vpon my word one Iesuit or one Papist for none shall stand in Mount Sion with the Lambe that haue receiued the marke of the Beast or belong to Antichrist Sect. 18. Prouing according to the Title of the booke by the confession of all sides that the Protestants Religion is safer because in all positiue points of our doctrine the Romanists themselues agree with vs but in their additions they stand single by themselues BVt admit the Protestants should allow a possibility of saluation to all beleeuing Christians in the bosome of the Roman Church which neuer yet was granted what doe our aduersaries inferre from hence Therefore say they It is the safer way to persist in that Church where both sides agree then where one part stands single in opinion by themselues Now surely if that be the safer way wherein differing parties agree both in one I will ioyne issue with them in this very point and if in this I make not good the Title of my book that wee are therefore in the safer way because they agree in the principall points of Controuersie with our doctrine I will reconcile my selfe to the Romane Church and creepe of all foure to his Holinesse for a pardon First then we say there is a Heauen and a Hell It is true say they but there is a Purgatory there is a Limbus Infantum also In the first part they ioyne with vs in the latter they stand single by themselues And that is the safer way where both sides agree We say we shall be saued by the Merits and satisfactions of Christ Iesus It is true say they but there are likewise merits of Saints and satisfactions of our owne helpfull and necessarie to saluation In the first part they ioyne with vs in the latter they stand single by themselues And that is the safer way where both sides agree Wee say the Sacrament of Baptisme and the Eucharist are two proper Sacraments instituted by Christ it is true say they but there are fiue more to bee receiued as true and proper Sacraments de fide for an Article of beleefe The first two they confesse with vs in the latter fiue they stand single by themselues And that is the safer way where both sides agree Wee say that Images of Christ and his Saints are ornaments and memorials of the absent and may in some Cases serue for Historie It is true say they but there is also worship and veneration due vnto them In the first part they agree with vs in the latter they stand single by themselues And that is the safer way where both sides agree We say with the Euangelist Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God and him onely shalt thou serue It is true say they but there bee Saints and Angels also that must be inuocated and adored In the first part they ioyne with vs in the latter they stand single by themselues And that is the safer way where both sides agree We say that Christ is the Mediator and Intercessour betwixt God and Man It is true say they but the Saints and Angels are our Intercessors and Mediators also In the first part they ioyne with vs in the latter they stand single by themselues that is the safer way where both sides agree We say that Christ is the Head and Monarch of the Church it is true say they but there is likewise another visible Head of the Church which is the Pope In the first part they ioyne with vs in the latter they stand single by themselues And that is the safer way where both sides agree We say that Peter had a Primacie of order that is a First-ship among the Apostles It is true say they but withall he had a supremacie of power and Iurisdiction In the first place they ioyne with vs in the latter they stand single by themselues And that is the safer way where both sides agree We say there are 22. books of Canonicall Scripture It is true say they but there are other bookes also as namely To bit Iudith the Machabees c. that are Canonicall In the first part they approue all that we hold in the latter they stand single by themselues And that is the safer way where both sides agree Wee say the Scripture is the Rule of faith It is true say they but there are Traditions likewise and vnwritten verities that must bee added to the Scriptures In the first they ioyne with vs in the latter they stand single by themselues And that is the safer way where both sides agree Lastly we say there are 12. Articles of the Creed and this is the Tenet and confession of all Christian Churches It is true say they but their are 12. Articles more published by Pope Pius the Fourth to be receiued of all men In the first place they confesse all that we hold in the latter they stand single by themselues And that is the safer way by our aduersaries confession where both sides agree Thus by the ample testimonies of the best learned in the Romane Church there is nothing taught by the Protestants de fide for matter of faith which the Church of God hath not alwaies held necessarie to bee beleeued nothing but that which alone is sufficient for euerie Christian man to know concerning his saluation nothing but that which is confessed by our aduersaries to bee safe and profitable for all beleeuers nothing but that wherewith the writings of all antiquitie are consonant and all Christian confessions agreeable Now since I haue brought you into Via tuta the safe Way Christus est Via veritas I will briefly commend vnto you Christ and his Apostles for your Leaders the Ancient Fathers for your Associates and Assistants and the blessed Spirit for your guide and conduct in your safe Way There are other passengers viz. Cardinals and Bishops and Schoolemen which doe accompanie you part of your way but they are strangers and therfore be warie of them and by way of preuention Ier. 6.16 Stand in the waies and see and aske for the old pathes where is the good way and yee shall finde rest for your soules Δόξα τῶ Θεῶ FINIS Errata Page 17. line 19. for her reade the. p. 27. l. 20. for Royall r reall p. 34 l 5. for Germ r. Iohannes Baptista Vergerius p 35 l. ●5 for in r. into p. 36. l. 6. for the power r. the abused power p. 44 l. 12. for hic r hûc p. 47. l. ●6 for foundation adde or openly disturbed the Church p. 66. l. 9. for succession best succession from heretiques or at best from an improbable example of the Nazarites p. 67. l 13. in Sacerdotibus c. as an vncleane Act. adde in Marg. August●● 74. p. 75. l. 20. for Apostolicall r. Apochryphall p. 93. l. 11. for comming r cunning p. 99. l 13. dele our p. 125. l. 5. for prosued r. pursued p. 160 l. 10. woman adde ●ate on a Beast which had p. 192. for Edward r. Edwin p. 37. l. 16. for Diuels r. damned with Diuels p. 248. l. 2. for Apostle r. Euangelist p. 275. l. 17. cita Ferum in cap. 1 Jo. Mogu● 1550. p. 34.
is terrible as an armie with banners so the number is terrible and strengthened by the Sacrament of Confirmation It is an Army because conioyned and vnited with the Sacrament of the Eucharist it is likewise ordered by the Sacrament of Orders and because some die and some fall away there is a necessity of supply through Matrimonie after they are beaten downe there is a recouerie by Pennance because no man comes to an Armie without an Ensigne there is also the Sacrament of Baptisme and lastly those that depart from their Armie are serued with extreme Vnction I could adde to these mysticall conceits the testimony of Saint Iohn he tels vs there is a woman in whose forehead a name was written Mysterie he tels vs further Reuel 17. this woman had seuen heads and these seuen heads are seuen Mountaines on which the woman sitteth or as Victorinus expounds it on which the Citie of Rome sitteth Fulk in Reuel 17.7 but I confesse I am no way delighted with such conceits especially in a point of their faith which they beleeue concernes their saluation Yet this I say if the beleefe of our two Sacraments had beene grounded vpon such reasons it had beene as easie a matter for vs to haue proued a mysterie in the number of two for there are two great Lights there are two Tables of the Law two Cherubins two Trumpets two Swords two Witnesses but chiefely two Testaments and from them onely wee produce our two Sacraments If wee consider therefore this Article of the Romane faith both as it wants proofe of the ancient Fathers in the affirmatiue and as it is declined by the latter Schoolemen in the Negatiue our aduersaries shall haue little cause to denie the Visibilitie of our Church for our two and lesse reason to bragge of their markes of antiquity and vniuersality in the faith of their seuen Touching our two they were anciently beleeued and are receiued by them and vs for true and proper Sacraments of the Church touching Confirmation Penance Orders Matrimony they are receiued by the Church of Rome and vs but with this difference they are decreed by them for true and proper Sacraments they are receiued and allowed by vs for rites and Ordinances in our Church Touching the two first they are knowne and certaine because they were primarily ordained by Christ himself touching the other fiue they had not that immediate Institution from Christ and thereupon the learned Cardinall is forced to confesse The sacred things which the Sacraments of the new Law signifie De Baptismo Eucharistia res notissima est de alijs Sacramentis non est ita notum Bellar. de Sacram. in genere lib. 1. cap. 9. are threefold the Grace of Iustification the Passion of Christ and eternall life touching Baptisme and the Eucharist the thing is most euident concerning the other fiue it is not so certaine Since therefore some of there best learned denie that all the seuen Sacraments were instituted by Christ others acknowledge they are not all true and proper Sacraments of the new Law others confesse that there owne fiue are not so certaine as our two Saint Austins confession shall bee my conclusion If we August contr Petil. lib. 3. c. 6. or an Angell from heauen preach vnto you any thing concerning faith and life besides that you haue receiued in the Legall and Euangelicall Scriptures let him be accursed PARAG. 5. Communion in both kindes IT is the sixt Article of the Romane Creed I confesse that vnder one kinde onely all and whole Christ and the true Sacrament is receiued This halfe Communion is created or declared for an article of faith and this article of faith is lately descended from the Councell of Cons●ance 1400 yeares after Christ Concil Constam an 1414 in which Councell it was declared that Christ did institute in both kindes and the Primitiue Church did continue it to the faithfull in both kinds but for weightie reasons as they terme them contrary to Christs institution and the practise of all antiquity they decreed a halfe communion with this Caution Concil Constant Sess 13 that if any should say it was vnlawfull or erroneous to receiue in one kinde he ought to be punished and driuen out as an heretique So that by the Decree with a Non obstante in the Canon that is notwithstanding Christ did institute in both kindes and the Primitiue Church receiue it I say from that time as it were in despight of God and man the whole communion was adiudged Heresie Gerson de heres communicandi sub vtraque speciè and which is most remarkeable this Councell by reason the first sessions iudged the Councell aboue the Pope those first sessions were condemned and reiected by the Councell of Florence Hoc conciliū quantum ad primas Sessiones vbi definit Concilium esse siopra Papam reprobatur vt est in Concilio Florentino quantum ad vltimas Sessiones ea omnia que probauit Martin 5. ab omnibus Catholicis recipitur and the last Councel of Lateran but for the last sessions wherein the communion in both kinds was adiudged hereticall although it were contrarie to Christs precept and his holy Institution the Councell in this point was allowed by Pope Martin the Fifth and saith Bellarmine Bellar de Cocil Eccles lib. 1. cap. 7. §. Quintum Acts 3 14. ab omnibus Catholicis recipitur it is receiued of all Catholiques neither can the Councell of Trent pleade ignorance that they know not Christs Institutiō for they pursue the decrees of the former Councell and declare in like manner Although our Sauiour did exhibit in both kindes Concil Trid. cap. 3. yet if any shall say the holy Catholique Church was not induced for iust causes to communicate the lay people and the non Conficient Priest vnder one kinde viz. of bread onely Can. 2. and shall say they erred in so doing let him be accursed Hee that shall heare two great Councels the one accusing the other accursing all for heretiques that denie the vnlawfullnesse of one kinde would gladly know what were those causes and reasons that induced the Romane Church to decree flatly against Christs precept and the example of the Primitiue Churh If neither the words Drinke yee all of this nor Doe this in remembrance of me are binding precepts as without doubt they are must therefore Priests and people bee adiudged heretiques and accursed Christians because they follow Christs example It is not to be doubted but that is best and fittest to bee practised which Christ himselfe hath done Bellar. de Euchar. lib. 4. c. 7. This is Bellarmines Confession this is ours besides how the Church of Rome should create or declare a point of faith manifestly repugnant to Christs Word and his Institution and contrarie to the practise of the Primitiue Church and yet retaine the proper markes of their Church which are Antiquitie vniuersality and
and Vasques the Iesuite would vnderstand the Law against Images to be a positiue and Ceremoniall Law and therefore to cease at the entrance of the Gospell Haec opinio no bis non probatur Bellar. de Jmag. l. 2. c. 7. yet Bellarmine disauowes that construction with a Non probatur This opinion is not allowed of vs both for the reasons made against the Iewes and for that Iraeneus Tertullian Cyprian and Augustine doe all teach the commandements excepting the Sabbath are a Law naturall and morall If therfore the old commandement be not abrogated let vs see what example or precept there is in the Gospell for adoration M. Fisher in D. Whites reply p. 226. Master Fisher the Iesuite tels vs In the Scripture there is no expresse practise nor precept of worshipping the Image of Christ yet there bee Principles which the light of Nature supposed conuince adoration to be lawfull So that from the law of God and the law of grace we are at last returned to the Law of Nature and from the light of Nature an Article of faith must be declared I haue read of Varro a heathen Phylosopher who from the instinct of Nature professed the contrarie doctrine The Gods saith he are better serued without Images Castius Dij obseruantur sine simula chris August de Ciuit. Deo li. 4. cap. 31. And Saint Austin conceiues this Tenet of his to be so good a principle in Nature that he condescends to his opinion and testifies thus much in his behalfe Although Varro attained not to the knowledge of the true God yet how neare he came to the truth in this saying who doth not see it Now the reason why these Fathers condemned the worshippers of Images for heretiques and idolaters is rendred by Eusebius Euseb Eccles hist lib. 7. cap. 17. Engl. Because saith he the men of old of a Heathenish custome were wont after that manner to honour such as they counted Sauiours And thereupon after that Images had got footing among the Christians the Bishops and Emperours by Councels and commands tooke speciall care to preuent them both in the making and the worshipping The Councell of Eliberis at Granado in Spaine Concil Elibert Can. 36. decreed That no pictures should be in Churches lest that which was worshipped should be painted on the wals And the good Emperours Valens and Theodosius made proclamation to all Christians against the Images of Christ in this manner Petrus Crinitus l. 9. ca. 9. For as much as wee haue a diligent care in all things to maintaine the Religion of the most high God therefore wee suffer no man to fashion to graue or paint the Image of our Sauiour either in colours or in stone or in any other kinde of mettall or matter but wheresoeuer any such Image shall be found wee command it to be taken downe assuring our subiects that wee will most strictly punish all such as shall presume to attempt any thing contrarie to our decrees and commandements I forbeare to cite the particular Fathers that opposed and condemned the worship of Images in the Primitiue Church it may suffice this doctrine wants a foundation in the Scriptures by their owne confession and now it shall appeare they want the visibilitie of the ancient Church and the testimonies of holy Fathers by the like acknowledgement of the learned Romanists amongst themselues Rectè ob euacuandam superstitionē ab orthodoxis Patribus definitū est Picturas in Ecclesia sieri non dabere ne quod coli tur adoratur c. E Bibliotheca Papyrij Nasoni in ijs libellis de picturis Imaginibus Agobardus Bishop of Lyons The orthodoxe Fathers for auoiding of superstition did carefully prouide that no pictures should be set vp in Churches lest that which is worshipped should be painted on the walls There is no example in all the Scriptures or Fathers for adoration of Images they ought to be taken for an ornament to please the sight not to instruct the people Hinema Rernens contr Hincmarum Hincmarus Archbishop of Rhemes In the raigne of Charles the Great the sea Apostolique willing it so to be a generall Synod was kept in Germanie by the conuocation of the said Emperour Jandunensē Episc c. 20. and thereby the rule of Scriptures and doctrine of the Fathers the false Councell of the Grecians concerning worship of Images was confuted and vtterly reiected Cassander Quantum veteres initio ecclesiae ab omni veneratione Imaginum abhorruerunt declarat vnus Origin aduersus Celsū c. Cassand Consult de simulachris How much the ancient Fathers in the Primitiue Church did abhorre all manner of worshipping Images Origen declares against Celsus and Austin in his manners of the Catholique Church and Ambrose in his fifth book of his Epistles and 31. do sufficiently declare Peresius Aiala Peres Omnes fere Scholastici in hoc sunt quo Image Christi sanctorum adorari debeat eadem adoratione quâ res quae representātur huius doctrinae nullū quod ego viderim afferūt validū fundamentum non neque Scripturam neque traditionem ecclesiae neque cōmunē consensū sanctorum neque concilij gratis determinationem aliquam nec etiam rationē quâ hoc efficaciter suaderi possit adducant Epis copus Guidi xiensis lib. de Tradit par 2. c. de Imag. p. 158. Statuit olim vniuersalis Ecclesia legitima occasione inductae propter illos qui erant ex Gentibus ad fidē conuersi vt nulle in Templis imagines ponerentur Nich. Clem. l. de nō celeb non in stit 11. Ea vt Polyd. Non medó nostrae religionis expertes sed teste Hieronymo omnes ferè veteres sancti Patres dānabant ob metum idolatriae c. Pol. de Inuent Rerū l. 6. c. 13Vsque ad atatem Hieronymi erant probatae religionis vi●i qui in Templis nullam ferebant imaginē nec picturā nec sculptā c. Eras in Catechesi Corruptus Gentiliū mos falsa religio nostram quoque religionē infecit c Cornel. Agr. de vanit scient c. 57. Wicel epist in exercit verae Ptetatis All Schoolemen in a manner hold that the Images of Christ and the Images of Saints are to be worshipped with the same adoration that there samplars are but they produce not so farre as I haue seene any sound proofe of this doctrine to wit either Scriptures or Tradition of the Church or common consent of Fathers or the determination of a generall Councell or any other effectual reason sufficient to perswade a man to that beleefe Nicholas Clemangis The vniuersall Church did anciently decree that no Images should be set vp in Churches and this was done for the Gentiles sake who were conuerted to Christianitie Polydore Virgill The worshipping of Images not onely those who knew not our Religion but as Saint Hierome witnesseth almost all the ancient Fathers condemned for feare of
prayer in an vnknowne tongue they confessed it was not vsed in the Primitiue antient Church but say they the prayer and seruice was vsually taught in the vulgar and knowne tongue In this confession they intimate the noueltie and vncertaintie of their owne doctrine and in this acknowledgement they witnesse the antiquitie and visibilitie of our Church long before Luthers dayes Touching Adoration of Images they confessed that there is no expresse place of Scripture that commands their worship they confessed there is no example amongst the Fathers for their adoration but rather against them and in these confessions they intimate the noueltie and vncertaintie of their owne doctrine and practise and in our worshipping of God in spirit and truth they acknowledge the antiquitie of our Religion and the visibilitie of our Church long before Luthers dayes Lastly touching Indulgences and Pardons they confessed that their Indulgences now vsed haue no authoritie from Scriptures or Fathers and in this confession they intimate the noueltie and vncertaintie of their owne doctrine and consequently the Indulgences which wee vse for no other end then the mitigation and relaxation of punishment to haue had antiquitie and visibilitie in the Church long before Luthers dayes If these witnesses had been ignorant or excommunicate persons in their owne Church or had they witnessed the truth in ceremonies and things doubtfull there might bee some plea why their testimonies should not be admitted but when the points in question are Articles of their owne Creed when they are witnessed by Popes by Councels by Cardinals by Bishops by learned Doctors and Schoolemen in their owne Church in our behalfe and against their owne Tenets I see no cause why I should not demand iudgement in defence of our Church and triall of our cause It is the law of God and man Ex ore tuo I will iudge thee out of thine owne mouth and from this decree and their owne confessions vpon record I call men and Angels to witnesse that they haue denyed antiquitie and vniuersality to the Articles of their own Creed and haue resolued the grand question touching our Church before Luther that it was in Christ in the Apostles in the Fathers in the bosome of the Ancient Church long before Luthers dayes Sect. 10. The Testimonies of our Aduersaries touching the infallible certaintie of the Protestant faith and the vncertaintie of the Romish OF what strength and force is truth it appeares by this that she extorts a full and ample testimony of her doctrine from her sworne enemies and yet for further proofe of our cause I will giue another summons to the prime men euen of their grand Inquest who without partialitie will testifie in our behalfe that our Church is built vpon a more stable and sure foundation then the Papacie and that our doctrine is more fruitfull and profitable and euery way more safe and comfortable for the beleefe of euery Christian and the saluation of the beleeuer Touching the certaintie of faith it is Bellarmines confession Bellar. de Jnstit lib. 3. cap. 8. None can be certaine of the certaintie of faith that hee doth receiue a true Sacrament for as much as the Sacrament cannot be made without the intention of the Minister and none can see another mans intention This confession being layed for a positiue ground of their Religion the Church of Rome hath ouer throwne in one Tenet all certaintie of true faith To begin with the Sacrament of Baptisme If the Priests intention faile by their doctrine the Insant is not baptized he is but as a Heathen out of the Church and consequently in the state of damnation Looke vpon their Sacrament of Orders it is the confession of learned Bellar mine Bellar. de Milit Eccles ca. 10. ad secundum If we consider in Bishops their power of Ordination and Iurisdiction we haue no more then a Morall certaintie that they are true Bishops and there he giues the reason for it Because the Sacrament of Orders depends vpon the Intention of the ordeiner Looke vpon the Sacrament of Matrimony and of this there is no certaintie because it doth depend vpon the Intention of the Minister and if he faile in his Intention at the time of solemnization the married people liue all their dayes in adulterie so that by their owne confession there is no certaintie of Christianitie by Baptisme no certaintie of their Sacrament of Orders and consequently no certaintie of succession in person which they so much magnifie in their Church besides if in the whole succession of Popes and Pastors the Intention of any one Priest did faile either in Baptisme or in Orders all succeeding generations that ordaine and consecrate both Priest and people are become vtterly voide and of none effect He that is bound vpon a curse to beleeue seuen Sacraments and yet is not certaine of any one must be saued by an implicit faith and yet it is to be feared for want of their Priests intention the poore ignorant soule doth sometimes worship a peece of bread because the consecration of Christs body depends say they vpon the intention of the Priest and no man doth know another mans intention Againe touching their Inuocation of Saints they are vncertain whether the Saints do heare their prayers they are vncertaine whether some they pray vnto be Saints in heauen or Diuels in hell Touching the first Biel. in C●n. Missae Lect. 28. Pet. Lomb. Senten lib. 4. dist 45. It is not certaine saith Biel but it may seeme probable that God reuealeth vnto Saints all those suits which men present vnto them and saith Peter Lombard It is not incredible that the soules of Saints heare the prayers of the suppliants Here is nothing but probabilitie and vncertaintie and yet admit it were more then probable that they did heare our prayers yet there is no certaintie that al such are Saints which are canonized by the Romane Church Accedit quod miracula quae ab Ecclesiae suscipiuntur in Canonizationibus sanctorum quae tamen maximè authentica sunt cum humano testimonio innitantur non omnino certa sunt quoniā c. Caret in epusc de concep Virg. Mar. ca. 1. Fidei Christianae certitudo non humano mor● certa esse debet sed infallibile omnino debet habere testimonium Caret ibid. It cannot be knowne infallibly saith Caietan that the miracles whereon the Church groundeth the Canonization of Saints bee true by reason the credit thereof depends on the reports of men who may deceiue others and bee deceiued themselues And vpon this vncertaintie Saint Austin complained in his dayes That many were tormented with the diuell who were worshipped by men on earth Whose reason and authoritie was so vndoubtedly true Bellar. de sanct Beat. lib. 1. c. 9. that Bellarmine had no way to auoide it but with a Fortasse c. Peraduenture saith he it is none of Austins and yet if Bellarmines answer were true which is but