rome_n page_n 29._o 30._o i_o speak_v of_o the_o pope_n supremacy_n and_o my_o word_n be_v these_o what_o authority_n soever_o the_o pope_n have_v over_o the_o latin_a church_n or_o west_n part_n of_o the_o world_n it_o have_v be_v give_v he_o by_o humane_a constitution_n only_o and_o general_a consent_n of_o prince_n and_o state_n which_o they_o suffer_v he_o to_o enjoy_v during_o their_o good_a like_n and_o no_o long_o and_o have_v thus_o show_v that_o the_o pope_n authority_n over_o other_o church_n be_v not_o by_o divine_a institution_n but_o only_o by_o humane_a permission_n not_o certain_a but_o during_o the_o pleasure_n of_o prince_n and_o state_n my_o word_n favour_v not_o his_o supremacy_n over_o we_o in_o england_n out_o of_o which_o by_o consent_n of_o prince_n and_o parliament_n he_o have_v be_v abandon_v long_o since_o and_o therefore_o i_o say_v the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v little_o behold_v to_o i_o for_o his_o title_n of_o supremacy_n this_o be_v a_o very_a loose_a and_o negligent_a kind_n of_o disputation_n seven_o say_v he_o dove_n persw_n pag._n 15._o refer_v the_o question_n what_o book_n be_v canonical_a scripture_n to_o the_o two_o doctor_n s._n augustine_n and_o s._n hierom._n his_o word_n be_v these_o catholic_n prove_v they_o to_o be_v canonical_a out_o of_o s._n augustine_n we_o that_o they_o be_v apocrypha_n out_o of_o s._n hierome_n both_o which_o doctor_n be_v of_o no_o small_a authority_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n therefore_o in_o this_o we_o differ_v no_o more_o from_o they_o than_o s._n hierome_n do_v from_o s._n augustine_n therefore_o i_o hope_v for_o many_o cause_n protestant_n will_v give_v place_n to_o we_o in_o this_o question_n i_o deny_v not_o but_o the_o question_n be_v propound_v concern_v the_o book_n of_o toby_n judith_n baruch_n ecclesiasticus_fw-la wisdom_n the_o maccabe_n and_o the_o fragment_n of_o esther_n whether_o they_o be_v canonical_a as_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v hold_v or_o apocrypha_n as_o our_o church_n maintain_v i_o answer_v that_o forasmuch_o as_o there_o be_v canon_n fidei_fw-la &_o morum_fw-la one_o canon_n or_o rule_n of_o good_a life_n another_o of_o faith_n and_o that_o may_v be_v canon_n morum_fw-la quodnon_fw-la est_fw-la fidei_fw-la arule_n and_o pattern_n of_o good_a life_n for_o we_o to_o follow_v which_o be_v not_o a_o sufficient_a ground_n of_o doctrine_n to_o build_v our_o faith_n upon_o they_o be_v both_o canonical_a and_o apocrypha_n canonical_a according_a to_o saint_n augustins_n for_o rule_n of_o good_a life_n apocrypha_n according_a to_o s._n hierome_n because_o they_o be_v no_o true_a ground_n of_o doctrine_n and_o so_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o ourselves_o right_o understand_v one_o another_o as_o saint_n hierome_n and_o saint_n augustine_n understand_v themselves_o there_o need_v not_o be_v any_o difference_n concern_v this_o point_n between_o us._n but_o how_o can_v he_o infer_v upon_o this_o that_o therefore_o we_o must_v give_v place_n to_o he_o in_o this_o question_n as_o saint_n hierome_n give_v no_o place_n to_o saint_n augustine_n so_o will_v we_o give_v no_o place_n to_o any_o only_o i_o wish_v they_o will_v better_o understand_v both_o we_o and_o themselves_o and_o give_v place_n to_o the_o truth_n and_o forasmuch_o as_o they_o allow_v both_o of_o saint_n hierome_n and_o saint_n augustine_n to_o be_v orthodoxal_a doctor_n they_o can_v receive_v s._n augustine_n his_o opinion_n but_o they_o must_v also_o embrace_v s._n hieroms_n exposition_n where_o it_o be_v explain_v what_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o s._n augustine_n where_o he_o allow_v those_o book_n to_o be_v canonical_a eight_o say_v he_o concern_v the_o vulgar_a latin_a translation_n allow_v among_o catholic_n d._n dove_n write_v thus_o pag._n 16._o we_o grant_v it_o fit_a that_o for_o uniformity_n in_o quotation_n of_o place_n in_o school_n and_o pulpit_n one_o latin_a text_n shall_v be_v use_v and_o we_o can_v be_v content_v for_o the_o antiquity_n thereof_o to_o prefer_v the_o old_a vulgar_a translation_n before_o all_o other_o latin_a book_n and_o so_o much_o we_o yield_v to_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n the_o praemiss_n be_v i_o but_o what_o be_v his_o conclusion_n because_o we_o ascribe_v to_o the_o vulgar_a edition_n more_o than_o to_o all_o other_o latin_a translation_n and_o therein_o agree_v with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o because_o we_o yield_v to_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n so_o far_o as_o reason_n do_v require_v and_o no_o further_o but_o disagree_v both_o from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o that_o council_n in_o thing_n which_o be_v erroneous_a concedendo_fw-la vera_fw-la negando_fw-la falsa_fw-la will_v he_o therefore_o take_v this_o for_o a_o protestant_a proof_n of_o his_o catholic_a religion_n non_fw-la taliauxilio_fw-la nec_fw-la defensoribus_fw-la istis_fw-la roma_fw-la caret_fw-la if_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v no_o better_a champion_n it_o will_v not_o stand_v nine_o doctor_n covel_n write_v no_o translation_n whatsoever_o be_v authentical_a scripture_n and_o doctor_n dove_n add_v all_o translation_n have_v many_o fault_n page_n 16._o in_o so_o write_v i_o write_v the_o truth_n for_o only_a god_n be_v free_a from_o error_n and_o therefore_o only_a the_o original_a text_n be_v authentical_a scripture_n all_o man_n be_v subject_a to_o error_n omnis_fw-la homo_fw-la mendax_fw-la but_o all_o translation_n be_v the_o work_n of_o man_n but_o how_o idle_o be_v this_o bring_v in_o as_o a_o protestant_a proof_n of_o recusancy_n well_o may_v it_o serve_v against_o recusant_n which_o ascribe_v more_o to_o the_o translation_n they_o to_o the_o original_n if_o no_o translation_n be_v authentical_a than_o it_o follow_v as_o a_o firm_a consequent_a that_o the_o vulgar_a latin_a edition_n can_v be_v authentical_a howsoever_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n have_v impose_v it_o upon_o we_o as_o authentical_a ten_o for_o this_o time_n and_o place_n say_v he_o i_o will_v only_o make_v amplification_n of_o doctor_n dove_n his_o grant_n &_o confession_n which_o follow_v in_o these_o word_n when_o the_o mass_n be_v first_o put_v down_o king_n henry_n have_v his_o english_a litourgie_n and_o that_o be_v then_o judge_v absolute_a without_o all_o exception_n but_o when_o king_n edward_n come_v to_o the_o crown_n that_o be_v condemn_v and_o another_o be_v in_o the_o place_n which_o peter_n martyr_n and_o bucet_n do_v approve_v as_o very_o consonant_a to_o god_n word_n when_o q._n elizabeth_n begin_v her_o reign_n the_o former_a be_v judge_v to_o be_v full_a of_o imperfection_n and_o a_o new_a be_v divise_v &_o allow_v by_o consent_n of_o the_o clergy_n but_o about_o the_o middle_n of_o her_o reign_n we_o grow_v weary_a of_o that_o book_n &_o great_a mean_n have_v be_v wrought_v to_o abandon_v it_o &_o establish_v another_o which_o although_o it_o be_v not_o obtain_v yet_o we_o do_v at_o the_o least_o at_o every_o change_n of_o prince_n change_v our_o book_n of_o common_a prayer_n we_o be_v so_o want_v on_o we_o know_v not_o what_o we_o will_v have_v pag._n 31._o hitherto_o his_o word_n and_o he_o free_o confess_v error_n in_o all_o these_o state_n and_o change_n for_o defence_n whereof_o beside_o that_o these_o word_n be_v write_v by_o way_n of_o objection_n from_o they_o rather_o than_o any_o confession_n make_v by_o ourselves_o i_o do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o intimate_v that_o there_o be_v error_n in_o all_o these_o state_n and_o change_n as_o he_o unjust_o charge_v i_o but_o only_o that_o in_o the_o service_n book_n of_o king_n henry_n and_o king_n edward_n some_o thing_n be_v judge_v to_o savour_v of_o the_o superstition_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n but_o as_o for_o the_o service_n book_n which_o be_v allow_v by_o queen_n elizabeth_n it_o stand_v not_o only_o during_o her_o time_n without_o alteration_n but_o also_o it_o be_v ratify_v by_o his_o majesty_n and_o allow_v of_o by_o the_o state_n albeit_o by_o some_o particularman_n it_o have_v be_v impugn_a as_o nothing_o else_o can_v be_v by_o the_o wit_n of_o man_n so_o well_o devise_v but_o man_n wit_n can_v dispute_v against_o it_o and_o as_o for_o those_o error_n which_o be_v reform_v in_o the_o book_n of_o k._n henry_n and_o king_n edward_n they_o be_v the_o superstition_n only_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n the_o land_n be_v not_o then_o sufficient_o reform_v nor_o purity_n of_o religion_n so_o perfect_o establish_v as_o now_o it_o be_v because_o the_o bishop_n &_o clergy_n man_n by_o who_o those_o book_n be_v write_v themselves_o be_v too_o much_o so_o wr_v with_o the_o romish_a leaven_n and_o our_o daily_a renounce_v those_o superstition_n and_o receive_v great_a light_n of_o the_o gospel_n can_v be_v no_o protestant_a proof_n that_o we_o shall_v any_o way_n favour_v their_o superstition_n eleventh_o he_o write_v thus_o why_o may_v we_o not_o say_v with_o the_o council_n of_o florence_n cite_v
my_o purpose_n be_v to_o find_v their_o falsehood_n by_o their_o foot_n to_o show_v how_o they_o enter_v in_o at_o the_o false_a door_n and_o go_v not_o the_o right_a way_n to_o detect_v their_o sleight_n and_o juggle_a cast_v whereby_o they_o advance_v error_n and_o falsehood_n but_o stand_v in_o opposition_n against_o the_o truth_n forasmuch_o therefore_o as_o if_o the_o gospel_n be_v yet_o hide_v it_o be_v hide_v to_o they_o which_o be_v lose_v the_o lord_n of_o his_o mercy_n take_v away_o from_o their_o disciple_n and_o follower_n that_o veil_n or_o cover_n which_o until_o this_o time_n have_v continue_v untaken_v away_o and_o remove_v from_o they_o the_o spirit_n of_o slumber_n that_o hereafter_o see_v they_o may_v see_v the_o lord_n of_o his_o goodness_n endue_v the_o teacher_n themselves_o with_o his_o grace_n that_o henceforth_o as_o sincere_a pastor_n and_o faithful_a steward_n of_o his_o word_n they_o may_v walk_v in_o simplicity_n and_o handle_v his_o word_n plain_o in_o the_o declaration_n of_o the_o truth_n that_o they_o may_v approve_v themselves_o to_o every_o man_n conscience_n in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n that_o when_o the_o chief_a shepherd_n and_o archbishop_n of_o our_o soul_n shall_v appear_v they_o may_v receive_v a_o incorruptible_a crown_n of_o glory_n through_o jesus_n christ_n our_o lord_n amen_n chap._n 1._o of_o the_o head_n of_o the_o church_n and_o that_o i_o may_v first_o with_o saint_n john_n the_o baptist_n lay_v the_o axe_n to_o the_o root_n of_o the_o tree_n because_o the_o cardinal_n derive_v the_o pope_n supremacy_n from_o s._n peter_n let_v we_o therefore_o 10._o examine_v by_o what_o right_a he_o entitle_v s._n peter_n to_o that_o supremacy_n 10._o for_o his_o supremacy_n be_v shake_v the_o pope_n authority_n which_o be_v ground_v upon_o it_o can_v stand_v our_o saviour_n upon_o saint_n peter_n his_o confession_n where_o he_o say_v thou_o be_v the_o christ_n the_o son_n of_o the_o live_a god_n answer_v thou_o 18._o be_v peter_n and_o upon_o this_o rock_n will_v i_o build_v my_o church_n it_o be_v as_o impossible_a to_o reduce_v these_o word_n into_o a_o true_a syllogism_n or_o form_n of_o argumentation_n as_o it_o be_v for_o the_o oracle_n to_o speak_v 19_o when_o the_o son_n of_o god_n have_v enjoin_v they_o silence_n or_o for_o the_o egyptian_n to_o make_v lice_n when_o the_o finger_n of_o god_n be_v against_o they_o every_o lawful_a syllogism_n must_v consist_v only_o of_o three_o part_n or_o term_n as_o they_o call_v they_o but_o here_o be_v four_o petrus_n petra_n persona_fw-la petri_n &_o structura_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la the_o person_n of_o he_o that_o make_v the_o confession_n his_o name_n his_o confession_n itself_o which_o be_v call_v the_o rock_n or_o foundation_n stone_n and_o the_o build_n of_o the_o church_n his_o person_n and_o his_o name_n where_o it_o be_v say_v tue_fw-la petrus_n thou_o be_v peter_n the_o confession_n or_o foundation_n stone_n upon_o this_o rock_n the_o edifice_n or_o build_n itself_o will_v i_o build_v my_o church_n the_o medius_fw-la terminus_fw-la or_o argument_n whereby_o every_o conclusion_n ought_v to_o be_v prove_v must_v be_v one_o and_o the_o self_n same_o as_o well_o in_o the_o minor_a proposition_n as_o in_o the_o mayor_n but_o here_o it_o can_v be_v so_o for_o it_o be_v petra_n in_o maiori_fw-la &_o petrus_n in_o minor_n the_o rock_n in_o the_o mayor_n and_o peter_n in_o the_o minor_a as_o if_o they_o shall_v conclude_v in_o this_o manner_n the_o rock_n be_v the_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n but_o the_o apostle_n which_o make_v this_o confession_n be_v peter_n therefore_o the_o apostle_n which_o make_v this_o confession_n be_v the_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n but_o this_o be_v not_o in_o mood_n and_o figure_n the_o medius_fw-la terminus_fw-la be_v not_o the_o same_o in_o both_o proposition_n therefore_o if_o they_o will_v correct_v it_o and_o reduce_v it_o into_o a_o true_a form_n they_o must_v conclude_v in_o this_o manner_n whosoever_o be_v the_o rock_n he_o be_v the_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n but_o the_o apostle_n which_o make_v this_o confession_n meaning_n peter_n be_v the_o rock_n therefore_o the_o apostle_n which_o make_v this_o confession_n be_v the_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n and_o then_o beside_o that_o they_o do_v confound_v the_o confession_n and_o the_o confessor_n s._n peter_n person_n and_o his_o doctrine_n which_o be_v two_o several_a and_o distinct_a thing_n the_o minor_a be_v untrue_a and_o contrary_a to_o the_o assertion_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n for_o he_o do_v not_o say_v tue_fw-la petra_n thou_o be_v the_o rock_n but_o tue_fw-la petrus_n thou_o be_v peter_n nor_o super_fw-la hunc_fw-la petrum_fw-la sed_fw-la super_fw-la hanc_fw-la petram_fw-la aedificabo_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la upon_o this_o peter_n but_o upon_o this_o rock_n will_v i_o build_v my_o church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d so_o then_o where_o he_o say_v thou_o he_o speak_v of_o his_o person_n and_o mention_v peter_n he_o tell_v what_o be_v his_o name_n speak_v of_o the_o rock_n he_o justify_v his_o religion_n be_v three_o several_a point_n beside_o the_o edifice_n and_o build_n of_o the_o church_n whereof_o that_o religion_n be_v the_o foundation_n stone_n now_o before_o we_o proceed_v any_o further_a in_o this_o argument_n let_v we_o avoid_v such_o exception_n as_o the_o adversary_n bring_v against_o the_o analyse_a of_o this_o text_n first_o bellarmine_n object_v 10._o that_o our_o saviour_n speak_v in_o the_o syrian_a tongue_n and_o in_o that_o language_n this_o one_o word_n cephas_n be_v nomen_fw-la proprium_fw-la viri_fw-la &_o commune_v saxi_fw-la the_o proper_a name_n of_o a_o man_n and_o a_o name_n common_a to_o all_o stone_n as_o also_o in_o the_o greek_a tongue_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v both_o peter_n and_o a_o stone_n and_o it_o be_v plain_a in_o the_o syriac_a text_n he_o say_v thou_o be_v cephas_n and_o upon_o this_o cephas_n will_v i_o build_v my_o church_n and_o thereupon_o he_o conclude_v that_o cephas_n in_o the_o first_o place_n shall_v not_o signify_v his_o name_n and_o in_o the_o second_o the_o rock_n as_o i_o deliver_v in_o my_o analysis_n but_o in_o both_o place_n the_o rock_n so_o that_o there_o may_v be_v tres_fw-la tantùm_fw-la termini_fw-la only_o three_o term_n or_o part_n to_o make_v a_o true_a syllogism_n and_o consequent_o that_o peter_n be_v the_o rock_n to_o which_o i_o reply_v there_o can_v be_v no_o good_a argument_n draw_v from_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o syriac_a text_n not_o only_o because_o of_o the_o ambiguity_n of_o the_o word_n which_o make_v the_o matter_n doubtful_a according_a to_o the_o grammatical_a construction_n and_o very_o uncertain_a but_o also_o because_o that_o text_n be_v disalow_v by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n whereas_o the_o latin_a text_n out_o of_o which_o i_o make_v this_o analysis_n make_v for_o i_o and_o be_v upon_o pain_n of_o anathema_n to_o be_v receive_v as_o authentical_a and_o so_o i_o touch_v he_o to_o the_o quick_a and_o slay_v he_o with_o his_o own_o sword_n as_o cephas_n according_a to_o grammar_n signify_v both_o the_o name_n of_o a_o man_n &_o a_o stone_n yet_o in_o this_o place_n it_o can_v signify_v both_o of_o they_o because_o it_o be_v otherwise_o in_o the_o greek_a which_o be_v the_o original_n &_o without_o exception_n and_o in_o the_o vulgar_a latinetranslation_n which_o do_v make_v that_o very_o plain_a where_o the_o first_o cephas_n be_v peter_n and_o the_o second_o a_o stone_n and_o so_o that_o which_o be_v or_o may_v seem_v to_o be_v ambiguous_a and_o yield_v matter_n of_o controversy_n in_o the_o syriac_a be_v clear_v in_o these_o edition_n and_o all_o ambiguity_n be_v take_v away_o there_o be_v no_o starting-hole_n leave_v for_o the_o sophister_n to_o cavil_v upon_o concern_v the_o syriac_a text_n bellarmine_n make_v doubt_v where_o he_o write_v thus_o de_fw-fr testamento_fw-la 4._o novo_fw-la maior_fw-la est_fw-la dubitatio_fw-la 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