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A86122 Of the article of our creed: Christ descended to Hades, or ad Inferos. Posit. 1. Christs soule went to Hades, or ad Inferos. 2. It concerns a Christian to know the right meaning of this article. Quest. 1. What is meant in the creed by this article? 2. Did Christs soule goe to heaven or Gehenna? With answers to both of them severally. Hayne, Thomas, 1582-1645. 1642 (1642) Wing H1220; Thomason E128_3; ESTC R22249 20,794 28

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that the true acceptation of the word Hades might the better bee understood 4. Master J. Casaubon on Greg. Nyssen Epist ad Eustat c. Not. 116. saith They who think Hades is properly the seat of the damned bee no lesse deceived then they who when they read Inferos in Latine writers doe interpret it of the same place namely Gehenna Here is plainly intimated by this worthie My●tes of sac●ed and humane learning that he judged Haden and Inferos to denote proper●y the common state of all dead and improperly onely and oy consequence the place of the damned In which regard a so they may sig●e the lodg of the blessed And hence I conceive it is that Luk. 16 22. the Rich man is said to be in Hade or apud Inferos in Hel in torment If Had●s properly and of its own force had signified G●h●nna Hel be words in torment might have bin omitted 5. Archbishop Vsher in his above cited T●eatise full fraught with diligent reading and judicious observations out of all kind of good litterature so that it containes what soever in the Treasury of learned Antiquity may conduce to the right understanding of the termes here questioned concludes 1. That Christs dead body though free from corruption yet did descend into the grave the place of corruption 2. That Christs soule being separated from his body departed hence to the other world or world unseen as all other mens soules in that case use to doe So that hereby is asserted that Hades signifies the other would or world unseen whither other mens soules go without any distinction in the word it selfe of their joy or misery 3. That Christ went to the dead and remained for a time in the state of death as other dead men aoe These assertions in the fornamed book pag. 37.goe as far as is necessary for the point in controversy between my Lord and the lesuit Elswhere pag. 353 it is further averred That it had bin sufficiently declared out of good Authours that Hades signifies the place of soules departed in gener all and so is of extent large enough to comprehend under it as well 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that part of Hades or the world unseen which is in Heaven as that which is by Iosephus cald 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the darker Hades and in the Gospel 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 outer darknesse And pag. 376. it is on very good ground concluded that seeing the Rule of faith common to great and small ones in the Church as is fit should containe such verities onely as are generally agreed upon by common consent of all true Christians Christ descending to Hades may have this meaning in gener all that hee went to the dead and continued in the state of death untill the time of his resurrection and further that the particular determination of the place of blisse or of torment or of both may bee left as a number of other Theologicall points are unto further disputation Thus this most learned Bi●hop in a right Christian moderation and pious study of the Churches peace gives his judgment concerning the article and permits further disquisition concerning the particular part of Hades whither Christs soule went 〈◊〉 any passages out of learned Authours are in that Treatise cited mon judiciously and may serve very pertinently to shew their opinion to bee that Christs soule went at his death to Paradise to Heaven to the place where the soules of the Saints were So that not my self onely but even all who are studious to find the truth in this controve●sy shall stand highly ingaged to this most reverend learned Bishop as for many other to for that his most learned and exact producement Now then I might call in hither the authorities of some of those learned writers and much in large this Treatise but having taken in hand as may well be permitted to make further disquisition into the point my course hath bin though I have thought good to cite the learned paines of the Iudicious late writers above a few of many yet especially to stand upon and maintain the point from sacred Scriptures and deductions grou●ded thereupon These I shall stil hold unto and rest upon because they have fully satisfied my self and having clearly and briefly propounded them they may I hope prevaile with others who read without prejudice and judg without partiality So I proceed from these grounds of my answer to a punctuall and distinct answer to the second Question The second Question answered and some Objections against the Answer resolved IT hath bin shewed above that Hades Sheol Inferi of their own force expresse no more but in generall that Christs soule went to the other world or world unseen and further that if generall termes serve to expresse something more particular as generall termes very often doe circumstances considerable about Christs person and places of Scripture touching thereupon must inforce the same Now I having declared the circumstances of cheif weight and moment in this point and in the severall chapters above having cosidered the Scriptures on which the knowledge of those circumstances depend I thus answer the 2d Question 1. That Christs soule at his death commended into the hands of his father went to Paradise or Heaven typed by the Sanctum Sanctorum into which Paradise or Heaven the believing malefactours soule and the soules of all the then dead Saints were carried and into which all believers soules now and hereafter goe at their deathes 2. That Christs soule going from the crosse to Heaven did in Heaven amidst the blessed and holy assembly of the Saints keep an holy Sabbath is his body did rest in his grave untill his resurrection and that his soule came from Heaven to his body on the third day as the soules of the dead Saints which rose with him at his resurrection did to their bodies and as all believers soules shall at the generall resurrection Obj. Against this Answer some man will perhaps object Bee it granted that Christs soule went to Paradise yet some passages of the ancient Fathers make Paradise a different place from Heaven shut up the soule● of the Saints whilst their bodies lie in the dust in refriger●o in a place of refreshing and not of perfect blisle Whence some conceive it to bee said that they are under the Altar and cry How long Lord holy and true dost thou not avenge our bloud on them that dwel on the earth Ans I Answer 1. The soules of the Godly enjoy the blessednesse which they are capable of during the time of their separation from their bodies The want which any one hath conceived so to diminish their blisse that is is not full and perfect can bee no other then that which proceeds from their bodies still lying in the dust Whence their bloud spilt in which once was the life soule L●v 17.14 cries as did Abels for Gods justice on their persecutours 2. In the old Testament the happ●nesle
Heavenly country untill his resurrection Besids in Act. 2. where is mention made of one prophecied of whose soule was not left in Hides or the world unseen nor his body left to suffer corruption it is prooved that these words in the Ps●lm belong to Christ and not to ' David by this onely non-conformitie viz. That Christs body saw not corruption as Davids did There is not any dissimilitude mentioned concerning the state of their soules Whereas if the soule of David had gone to Heaven and Christ to Gehennah there had bin a non-conformity of a vast distance to distinguish them and an argument of good force to shew that the words in the Psalm nothing at all concerned David Moreover unto Christ all true believers since his death and Resurrection must bee conformable They endure many afflictions her in this life they take up their crosses patiently they deny themselves they die their bodies are buried their soules goe to Paradise thence at the generall resurrection their soules returne and shall bee reunited to their bodies and being thus raised from death they both in body and soule shall ascend to Heaven Thus it was which Christ and his members in all these respects they are and must be conformable unto him their head The 4. Ground FOurthly let us throughly waigh the admirable and manifest correspondence of these things following 1. Christs soule went through the vail of his flesh Heb. 10.20 for his flesh was as a vail and kept the eyes of men from seeing his glory because he was clad which the similitude of sinfull flesh As the high Priest went through the vail of the Tabernacle which separated the Holy place from the Holiest and kept the eyes of men from looking thereunto 2. Christ our high Priest having offered in this world his own bloud entred into the Holy place and thereby obtained eternall redemption for his people Heb. 9.12 24. As the high Priest having offered the bloud of Sacrifices in the worldly Sanctuary entred alone into the Holiest place once a yeare for pardon of his sins and the peoples 3. Christs soule going from his body hath made a new and living way for all believers soules to enter into the● Holiest place that is Heaven and not by that old way of beasts slain Heb. 10.20 The renting of the vail shewed that the old way unto the Holiest place was taken away the way opened for entring into a greater and more perfect Tabernacle not made with hands He. 9.11 24. 4. Christs soule came to his body which slept in the grave so that hee rose again to life and became the first fruits of them who slept and afterward in soule and body ascended into Heaven So the soules of them whose bodies yet sleep in the dust shall at Christs comming again bee joyned to their bodies so that then they shall rise from death and ascend as Christ the first fruits did Now if the Holy place and wordly Sanctuary and the Priests sacriscing and the performances therein typed what Christ did for 〈◊〉 in this world and if the Holy of Holies into which the Priest entred once a yeare was a type of Heaven as indeed it is Heb. 9.24 then the fullfilling of this type must bee that Christs soule when his bloud was shed and his soule or life made an offering for sin Es 53.10 entred into the Heavens as is expresly said in Heb. 9.24 and as the correspondence of the particular matters above mentioned doe imply The 5. Ground IN the fifth place I think it well worthy of our consideration that seeing Christ was crucified on the day of preparation to the Sabbath and that his body was put into the grave in the Evening afterward and seeing that hee rose not again untill the first day of the week in the morning it is manifest that his body rested in the grave and perfectly kept the whole Jewish Sabbath So that neither the wicked Jewes and Romans his enemies nor the pious women who out of their love minded with sweet odours to embalme him did interrupt the rest of his body all that time This being the condition of Christs body and the Sabbath thus observed and kept by it what shall wee think became of his soule where kept it the Sabbath that it might observe a correspondence therein with the body Shall wee not grant that it went to Paradise to Heaven the lodge of the Saints where wee expect to enjoy an everlasting Sabbath Shall wee not think that as the body of Christ in the grave and as the soules of Gods servants departed in Heaven rest from their labours Revel 14. So Christs soule in this place of blisse rested from its labours Hee was freed from conceiving greif at the hard hearted ness● of wicked men on earth and now after his death should his soule come to a place where wretched and ungracious soules were tormented irremediably for dying impenitent Where Christ found people on earth obstinatly unfaithfull and ungodly he abode not among them but departed out of their coasts and shall we conceive that his soule after his death did goe to and abide in the darksome lodgings of soules given up to disobedience and rebellion where hee could doe them no good The Scripture hath not revealed any such thing not a word of any promise tending that way Obj. Christ in his life time shunned no place no people Hee went to the Publicans house dined with him he went to Samaria a wicked people and often conversed with sinners Ans Hee did so indeed and well might hee so doe because hee was an extraordinary Physitian who could not bee infected with the contagiousnesse of any sinner 2. Because he brought to them such pretious balmes so soveraig●e medicines that there with he often cured some of them And bee it so that the sins of them in Gehenna damnable to themselves could in no wise touch or affect him Sure it is that his most excellent medicines were not prepared for any in their condition For wee read not that any actually in Gehenna were redeemed thence by Christ Obj. B●t might not Christ notwithstanding goe th●ther to triumph over the damned spirits in Gehenna Ans Had it bin Christs pleasure to have triumphed over them Surely as the Lord from Heaven could laugh them to Scorn Ps 2. so might hee shew himselfe from Heaven after a triumphing manner over them And I conceive that his laughing at the destruction of them who obstinately despised his counsell and would not be bettered by correction Prov. 1.25.26 is a kind of triumphing over them if wee may use the word triumph speaking of God after the manner of men as it pleaseth the Holy Ghost to use the phrase of laughing to Scorn from Heaven Seeing the Richman in Gehennas torment may bee conceived by us to see Abraham and Lazarus in blisse for the text relates it Luc. 16. much more may wee conceive how the damned spirits in their miserable condition
may to their horrour see the glorious state of Christ triumphing in Heaven So that 'c is no more necessary for Christ to goe to Gehenna to triumph over the damned soules there then for a King who hath vanquished rebells and imprisoned them to come and abide some dayes triumphantly in the prison which commonly is a place too loathsome for him to come neer Obj. But some will farther say Where ever Christs soule was though in Gehenna it might and would observe an Holy Sabbath no externall matter could molest or disquiet it no hellish representation of torture or hideous noyse of the damned no anguish of theirs could break off or interrupt its Sabbath and rest Ans Bee it so Yet wee must know that the Iewes for the observation of their Sabbath did not onely every man in himselfe enjoy a sacred retirement from outward and wordly affaires and contemplated in his private thoughts on Heavenly matters but did joyn also with many others a publick congregation in their Synagogues cald houses of God where with one accord they praised God Now whether something answerable to this was to be done by Christs soule in Gehenna or amidst the Quire of Saints and Angels in Heaven let any man judg The Iudgment of some worthy and learned writers about these points PReg●an● evid●nces of Scriptures and next to them sound deductions the ce are of greatest validity to settle divine Truth the judgments o● pious learned and long exp●rienced divin●s though they bee of much infertour author●ty to the forme● yet have their use and are nor to be neglected ●spec●a●ly where their 〈◊〉 and abili●es served to clear texts obscure or liable to●on rov●rsie Give me leave the fore for the fuller opening o● this present poin● to produce the judgements of some later divines who since the ●eviving of sacred knowle●ge have attained much skill in the 〈◊〉 and become diligent and se●ious Searche●s into the ●xt indited by the holy Ghost and by their 〈…〉 afforded much light to the discussion of the business now 〈◊〉 hand 1. Henry Bullinger in his Decads where hee wries on this Article saith to this estect By Infers in the Creed we understand not the place of ●erment d●stinated to the wicked but the godly departed out of this life as by Superi wee understand them who are ye● alive And therefore the soule of Christ descended a● Inferos that is was carried into Abraha●s besom in which were gathered together all believers deceased Therefore when Christ said to the malefactour the believing thief crucified with him This day shalt thou bee with ●ee in Paradise hee promised him society with himselfe and the blessed spirits in life eternall And where as Christ is said to descend that is onely from the custome of that tongue or speech We further confesse in this Article that soules are immortall presently passe to life when the body dies This I have read cited for the judgment of the Zurich divines If they concur herein then it is of so much the more weight as a whole Churches consent out weigheth the determination of one particular Treacher That Juferi are taken for the dead Superi for the living the speech of Maxim Taurinus De sep●lt Domini Hons 3 shews Quid quar● apud Inferes quem re●iisse jam constat ad Superes why seekest thou him among the dead this with reference to the body which the soule left and went unto the world unseen who is well known to bee now among the living And Macrobius a judg for Latine words not incompeten● speakes to the same purpose Nos defunctis Superi habemur we here living are called Superi in regard of them who are gone to another world In So●n Scip. 1.3 And they by the opposition of the words are called Jnferi This is the custome of speech which H. Bullinger mentions 2. Bishop Bilson a very learned man and much versed in this point was overcome by the force of truth and in some sort yeelded the cause against himselfe For though hee held that Christs soule did descend ad locum damnatorum yet he expressy saith Wee have no warrant in the word of God so to fasten Christs soule to Hel that is to Gehenna that it might not bee in Paradise before it descended to Hell and hee first shew himselfe to the Saints to their unspeakable comfort before hee went to subject the powers of darknesse under his yoak Serm. pag. 219 Vpon this his grant I infer Seeing hee yeelds that according to the Scripture Christs soule went at his death to Heaven 1. the Scripture never mentions nay hath not one title to prove that his soule went from Heaven to Gehenna 2. If it were first in Paradise and came with the soules of the Saints thence at his resurrection as there is little reason to hold the contrary why should wee not think that it continued in Paradise from its accesse thither untill its comming thence with the soules of the Saints who rose with Christ 3. If Christs soule went first to Paradise and there shewed it self to the Saints great comfort it might in Heaven also shew it self to the spirits in torment to their utter confusion So Abraham as I said before appeared in the place of happinesse to Lazarus his comfort and yet was seen by the Rich man to his utter despair of remedie And indeed Christs appearance in Heaven in the sight of the damned spirits in Hell might though himselfe uttered no words at all intimate to them somewhat like to that in the parable expressed as spoken by Abraham Remember that yee in your life time received pleasures and on the contrary the Godly as did Lazarus evill things but now they are comforted and yee are tormented 3. Master H. Broughton a man very skilfull of the sacred Originall and an earnest and studious searcher into passages of Scripture and other writers making for the clearing of this point saith Hades is the generall word expressing the place of all kind of soules and by different circumstances is sometimes Heaven sometimes Hel. Reply pag. 37 Andagain Sheol comes 64 times in the Holy tongue Hel as often in our old Translation and never directly for Gehenna but as by the Argument may be concluded and so it may bee Heaven in speech of the Godly Neither should Hel in the Creed expressing Haden and Inferos mean any thing else but the world to come the world of soules Likewise Hel cometh 9. times for Hades in the New Testament but never in all these places doth it signifie Gehenna Thus 73. times in a gener all meaning of separation from the world and such lot as the matter where you find it followeth it cometh in both Testaments Explic. of the Article pag. 3. That hee might shew his Iudgment to bee sound and orthodox in this point hee in the book last quoted hath diligently expounded most of the Scriptures where these termes are found and brought many speeches of forraign writers