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A76343 A word of information & advice touching tythes, and other the goods appropriate (as yet left) to Church-men. Wherein is given a hint of the light and knowledg of God and his mind touching these things, as they have been from the beginnging almost till now. / Humbly presented by R.B. of N.W. to the governors of this commonwealth. R. B. 1652 (1652) Wing B174; Thomason E671_14; ESTC R207078 6,827 8

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A WORD OF Information Advice TOUCHING TYTHES And other the Goods Appropriate as yet left to Church-men Wherein is given a Hint of the Light and Knowledg of God and his Mind touching these things as they have been from the Beginning almost till now Humbly presented by R. B. of N. W. to the Governors of this Commonwealth 1. OBserving what ado there is in the Land as touching these things I have also judg'd it meet to give my advice for the Peace sake and good of men That I might make out my mind in brief I would first give notice according to the testimony of the Scripture of Truth that there are in the world now as there were heretofore these three ranks or degrees of men the first were and are such that live wholy alienated from the light and true knowledg of God being in continual open and manifest rebellion in heart thought and life against him such were the most of the Gentiles heretofore and there be not a few of the like spirit found among the people that yet profess the Name of Christ now yea the multitude of all Lands are such these people have as open and profest Rebels or like high-way theeves taken all they ever can lay hands on and together with themselves bestow all upon their lusts which are indeed the alone gods they serve which were noted among the Heathen under the names either of Mars as the god of some or Bacchus the god of others or Venus the god or goddess of others c. All which and their mind the Apostle comprehends in that saying Their god is their belly their glory is their shame they mind and nothing else but earthly things 2. Wherefore in the second place it being now in a manner fully in the heart of man that as for the most holy high and blessed God who is also himself the God of Gods the fountain and first rise of all good he had indeed forsaken the Earth and left man to take his pastime here and to do his own will and what liked him best every one following the imagination of his own heart it pleased God for a remembrance of himself in all ages to reserve a people which he hath always made ready and prepared for himself in the furnace of affliction as he did the remnant of the house of Israel in Aegypt these are the second sort of people that in their affliction through the power and indwelling and clear opening of the Grace of God unto them therein are made willing to become tributary to God these that he might bind them fast to himself according as they were capable he made with them some Agreement or Covenant thereby preserving them in some way and degree of subjection to and acknowledgment of him as their liege Lord and King whose they and all that they had by right the highest right of all was only because of their weakness and unwillingness wholy and in all points to give up themselves to be altogether at the dispose of this their supream Soveraign King and Lord he humbled himself and condescended for a while and season to take of them only some remembrances as some part of their time as one day in seven instead of the whole and so some part of their Corn Wine and Oyl and all that they had and did put their hands unto of these he took by Commandment only the Tythes and Offerings yet of these things he took so great a share that he seemed indeed to oppress them more then any other people were that they might be thought to have more cause to complain for this matter then any have upon any the like or the pretended like to the same now 3. Of this second sort of people there is in this and in other Countries some or rather a very great remembrance whose attainment and condition were it in truth and so far as so it is is far more excellent then the former and ought to be had in esteem above them even as subjects that acknowledg their Soveraign Prince are above those that are in open and profest rebellion against him hence it is they are zealous some more according to the Scripture and some upon the account as well of Tradition as the Scripture for neither in their place ought to be had in contempt or which to say is better both having respect to the Scripture but some take less some more example from the Old Testament as those we call the Papists yea and some of the Protestants too as the Lutherans beyond the Seas and the Bishops heretofore in this Land the Ancestors of these sith they were not able to go forward to the purity holiness divinity and self-denyal of the New Testament went back again to the observations of the Law I mean to many of them doubtless of a good mind in some who not being able to keep their ground in Grace or in the Gospel or new Law took up their station in the Old or the things in use through the Command of it though many have since in a great degree been beaten off it and are faln back into the dark Hell and Abyss of Evil the state of Gentilism wherein even Abraham was before he beleeved Yet even this Gentilism hath for it a double vail the one more thick and manifest as that of the Old Law the other being scarce any other then the very Name of Christ and the Gospel 4. But there are a second sort which would seem and indeed in some sort are more Reformed as the followers of Calvin whom yet many have clouded he being far more in the light then those that seem to be so great admirers of him who pretend to l t go what the others keep close to the many usages and observations of the old Law and to aspire to and abide in the light and freedom of the New only here in England is made a double reserve the one of a seventh day Sabbath the other of Tythes or Tenths but with this difference that they would have the Sabbath the seventh part of time consecrate and holy to God in distinction from the rest of time which they say is allowed to men now as common though the New Testament Sabbath not without a Mystery had its beginning on the eighth day which was also the time of circumcision or the cutting off the fore-skin of the flesh to signifie as Luther observes that that day is of that nature and light that after it no night shall follow But as for that of Tythes they speak ambiguously and seem to hold to it rather upon the account of Custom and the Law of the Land then as a right Divine of necessity to be bowed down to 5. Now I shall speak my belief and give my judgment as to both these which is this I like them both in opposition to the first the state which the Gentiles were and yet are in for it is far better that there be left