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A85071	The Faithfull narrative of the late testimony and demand made to Oliver Cromwel, and his powers, on the behalf of the Lords prisoners, in the name of the Lord Jehovah (Jesus Christ,) king of saints and nations. Published by faithful hands, members of churches (out of the original copies) to prevent mistakes, and misreports thereupon. To the faithful remnant of the Lamb, who are in this day of great rebuke and blasphemy, ingaged against the beast and his government, especially, to the new non-conforming churches, and saints in city and country, commonly called by the name of fifth monarchy men.	Horton, Hur.	1655 (1655)	Wing F278; Thomason E830_20; ESTC R207450	41,484	44

given a banner to them that fear thee that it may be displayed because of the truth Selah Besides we do not as the Court-Christians set our Diall by the Clocks of the time for so both would go false but rather set the Clocks that strike now adayes by the Dials of truth and according to the Testimony of good Consciences and then the Sunne that is now risen with glorious rayes lustre and appearance in this age will show us the time of the day and what we have to do like the Children of Issachar 1 Chron. 12.32 to keep all True and to make the Clocks and Dials to center in one period of hour and time As Christ our Sun appears we hope to appear with him and to rise with him and shine with him and sit with him on thrones to Judge those that have and do Judge us every day Jude 14 15. Rev. 20.4 though this be their day yet we are sure to have our day to Judge them and then that question they are so cranck in shall be put out of question viz. whether we are busie-bodies in other mens matters that Christ and his Messengers have nothing to do with or in Christs matters that all true Christians have and ought to have to do with all that are followers of the Lamb and for which matters of Christ and all Saints against the Beast our dear Brethren are so barbarously abused persecut●d plundered and imprisoned and for which we with them through the grace of our Lord Jesus are resolved to stand whether by life or by death And this we are sure of by experience however they unworthily censure us as a blind man would not believe there was a Sun because he saw it not though some effects might have convinced him so some effects we hope in the Lord shal lere long convince them that we suffer for the pure Testimony of a good conscience and meerly for Christ and his Interest and not for any man Men Thing or Interest whatsoever that is on Earth This conscience feasts us with very excellent viands from above which we believe no caterer in the Court can provide their Great Masters withal but theirs is like to have but sowr Sawce though it be out-landish-like as when Chirurgions open the dead bodies of Epicures they find many indigested crudities so will the Ancient of dayes ere long when he sits to anatomize dissect and rip up their Consciences find many a foul crudity viz. the sculs blood and bones of thousands of the Saints to stick there But the Lord have mercy upon them for the Plague is begun if they be not past recovery or true Repentance But if they be then the Righteous and Holy just God who is our God will appear against them and their interest speedily powerfully and effectually according to all the Faith Tears and Appeals of his poor Worm Jacob in whose hand we believe will be the New threshing Instrument visibly are long And then this contemptible testimony or course Barley-Cake of Truth will tumble from the Gideon Campe and smite down all their Tents according to the Faith and Prayer of Christ's and his poore Remnants despised Servants To do or to suffer to live or to die with them in this most glorious though clouded precious though Persecuted Cause of CHRIST JESUS Hur Horton Christopher Crayle Hugh Day Edward Grove John Pugh John Durden Samuel Bradley William Bragg William Medley Francis Young James Wilson Daniel Ingoll List up a Banner upon the high mountain exalt the voice unto them shake the hand that they may go into the Gates of the Nobles I have commanded my sanctified ones I have also called my mighty ones for mine anger even them that rejoyce in my Highnesse Isa 13.2,3 A faithfull Narrative to the faithful Remnant round the Nation the new Non-conformist-Churches and Saints in City and Countrey that go under the name of fifth Monarchy-men THE Hope we have of fair weather arises from the Rainbow in the Cloud though the Cloud be black the Sun is up and looks ●ull upon it which hath produced divers colours put the poore Saints hard upon faith grones and prayers to make up that tremendous Judgement and dreadful Thunderbolt that must fall out of this black Cloud and which begins to rattle already over the heads of the present Persecutors as Rev. 4. and the 5. From the throne of the Lamb goeth thunders and voyces so in Chapter 8 and the 5. The Angel cast the Censer for he was before the throne full of fire and incense viz. the Faith and Prayers of the poore persecuted Saints into the earth and there were voices and thunderings and lightnings and an Earthquake chap. 16.18 and 19.6 and it is well known the new Non-Conformists round the nation are at it day and night c. filling this Censer full and before the Throne giving the Lord no rest and though many have been as dead as dry bones yet they begin to gather Sinews apace now and are like may we speak it without Alaraming the New Court to be an exceeding great Army for the witnesses are warm and begin to stir and benummed senses by use get life apace so that the Remnant of the womans Seed are like to have their hands full Ere long and long they think it among them are those despised ones of the Lord that walk in fellowship with Mr. Rogers now prisoner for the Testimony of Jesus at Lambeth who after several solemn dayes and whole nights did find it a present duty incumbent upon them and preparative to future to go to Whitehall the revived Court and demand the Lords prisoners and bear their Testimony against these in present powers for their grosse sins and Apostacies which the whole Body agreed unto not one dissenting with a loud Suffrage of Joy and alacrity blessing the Lord that they should be honoured by the Lord Jesus as to be called to this Testimony for his suffering Truth and Saims at this day They sought the Lord earnestly two whole nights herein though the first night they were disturbed by some rude abusive Ruffians that seemed Zealots for their Protector they roughly handled scurrilously miscalled and abused some of the Brethren that they hurried them away from Prayer to prison for night-prayers are reputed dangerous and disturbful to the Court interest yet for all that they kept another night to have directions from the throne in the management of so high and noble a Message and that they might not in the least dishonour the dear name of the Lord Jehovah nor the cause and Kingdome of Jesus Christ that now suffers So after they found much of Gods presence and many sweet promises to apply and concluded unanimously upon the number of twelve which is the Lambs number against the Beast and the Root and square number of the hundred fourty four thousand in Rev. 14. to deliver the Message in trust to Oliver Cromwel in person in the name of the great

be as evil doers O.P. I cannot tell you then how to help it B. H. For my part I must declare against you and will venture my life if I be called to it with these our brethren that suffer B. Cr. As for those Articles we have heard them read against our bro. Ro. out of his Sermons preached at Tho. Apost and from what he prayed at Th. Apost Set aside but what is put in by your Informers which we wil take our Oathes that heard them all preached were never spoken by him only I say that excepted we will live and die with him upon those Articles will own him with our lives Yea said Mr. Ro. and I believe an hundred will that heard and writ them O. P. Well saith he I 'll send for some of you ere long but I have lost this time and have publike business upon me at this time I had rather have given 500 l. I tell you there wants brotherly love and the several sorts of Forms would cut the throats one of another should not I keep the peace Ro. Those you call Fifth Monarchy-men are driven by your Sword to love one another O.P. Why I tell you there be Anabaptists pointing at Mr. Kifsin and they would cut the throats of them that are not under their Forms so would the Presbyterians cut the throats of them that are not of their Forms and so would you Fifth Monarchy-men It is sit to keep all these Forms out of the Power Ro. Who made you my Lord a Judge of our Principles You speak evil of you know not what For that Fifth Monarchy-principle as you call it is of such a latitude as takes in all Saints all such as are sanctified in Christ Jesus without respect of what Form or Judgement he is But Judiciuns fit secundum vim intellectualis luminis He was interrupted O.P. What do you tell us of your Latine Ro. Why my Lord you are Chancellor of Oxford and can you not bear that Language B. C. My Lord we have great comfort by the Ministery of our brother Rogers and great miss of him and therefore we have demanded his Liberty and desire to know whether he shall be at liberty or no. O.P. I will take my own time you shall not know what I will do B. H. Then let us have liberty to hear him preach S. Dendy It cannot be my Lord for I have many prisoners and 't is dangerous * And yet for all S. Dendy's baseness to the poor persecuted people of God And his readiness to prevent the great mans answer he can let in as many as will come to the drunken profane prisoners plotters so that friends are glad to use their names if they know any of them that come to see Mr. Rogers Ro. Pray my Lord consider that place in Isa 49.24 25 26. for the Lord will deliver the lawful Captive in that day which is coming you can but have my blood at last and you had like to have had it already in the Prison ere this two of my children have died there since my imprisonment and I have been at Deaths-door B. H. It is unreasonable our brother Ro. should be kept prisoner so in such a place and at such a charge as is for him above 200 l. per an and we know no cause for it but his conscience Then S. Dendy was spoken to to answer for himself S. D. Now my Lord I see one of my Accusers I never demanded a peny of Mr. Ro. nor of my Aunt his wife who is one of Sir Robert Payne's daughters O.P. I knew her father very well S. D. But they have my Lord three rooms and it cannot be allowed Ro. No more room then one prisoner had before being divided into three little rooms and but one chimney in them All. The Plotter that went out before I came into them had them All. And for the Fees though you in person demanded them not yet your man old Measey did for you several times viz. 4 l. 4 s. per week which he did before witness as I can prove under their hands and he said I should not go out till the Sergeant had it And what besides I was to pay you I was not to know till I went out Mrs. Ro. said to Sergeant Dendy It 's true you have had but 5 l. yet of it O.P. Why he is your Nephew who was accounted one that loved the people of God Ro. So were others as well as he till this trial Mr. Cre. My Lord will you not give us the liberty to hear him in the Prison then seeing you will not let us hear him abroad O.P. Is that the liberty you sought for says he in a scoff Mr. Cr. Yes Sir and that which we demand But then the Great man would be gone and as he was going out Mr. Ro. desired him to remember he must be judged and the day of the Lord was neer and that he would ere long and those about him finde them that now he and they counted false Prophets in Windsor and Lambeth true Prophets and what they have said they should finde come to pass ere many yeers yet for that the righteous Jehovah who sitteth on high heareth all our prayers sighs groans and tears But away he went and would not hear As soon as we came out of the room Sergeant Dendy in the Gallery threatned what he would do and how he would send them further off and order them ere long Mr. Rogers receiving the threatning without impatience or one word of reply unto him That very night a strict Order was sent after him to Lambeth-prison that no more then six may come to see Mr. R. at a time no such Order being made for any of the other Prisoners who have of lend company as many as they will at a time And since that the Gaoler hath been so strict especially upon the Lords days according to his Orders from Whitehal that he will not suffer one brother to come in to see him or to pray with him that is sent from the Churches of Christ upon those days if he knows him to keep a holy rest with Mr. R. In the mean time the Contumelies Contempt and opprobrious abuses the members of Mr. Peak's Mr. Rogers's Mr. Raworth's and of some other Churches met with below in the yard during the foresaid Discourse with O. Cromwel But to pass over that and leave it to the Judge of heaven and earth who we are sure will not overpass it During this Discourse between Mr. R. and the Great man above the Brethren that were below in the yard had their share of reproaches and abuses For the members of the Churches of Christ who could not have access with Mr. Ro. were kept below and encompassed about with divers of the deboist Souldiers who when they heard us declare against those barbarous actions which the Guard so cruelly acted with their Swords against our naked brethren and friends those

charge you with and you suffer not for the testimony of Jesus Christ I speak God is my witnesse I know it that no man in England does suffer for the Testimony of Jesus * It seems when he said so be called God to witnesse M. Rogers tiffed up his hand and his eyes appealing to witnesse also at which Posture he was offended nay do not lift up your hands and your eyes for there is no man in England which suffers so there are those that are far better than Mr. Rogers though comparisons are not good and not near his principles yet if they should suffer for the Testimony of Jesus But there is such Liberty I wish it be not abused that no man in England suffereth for Christ and it is not your Fancy you must bring strong words to acquaint me of your sharp expressions After he had spake and all were silent Mr. Rogers desired to know of him whom he expected to reply whether himself or some other the answer to who would Rogers Do you expect me to answer I will promise this before I speak further I have been twenty seven weeks a prisoner my brother Feak above a year and there hath been no Charge against me but now I am brought before you I desire to know in what capacity I stand before you as a Prisoner or as a Freeman as a Christian to a Christian with equall Freedome that others have or as a slave O P. A Prisoner is a Free man as Christ hath made you free and so you are a Free man Ro. It s true indeed my Lord and yet I must say as some Gentlemen here present know I did before I was imprisoned and when they would have had me meet in Colemanstreet to discourse our Principles upon which we suffer that it is unreasonable to desire it at the disadvantages we meet with seeing they who are our Antagonists have the advantage of a Law new made Mr Rogers told him that Ordinance making Treason for words was such us Q. Mary her self as bloody as she was would abhor as appears in Hollinshed in the 1. year of her reign which made their Tyranny worse than the Roman Tyranny which they call an Ordinance of Treason to lash us with as a Master hath his rod in his hand over-awing his School-boyes so that it is a very unjust and unequall thing that they should speak as Free men and we as slaves under an over-awing but if that Law be repealed though but pro tempore during such debates and we be restored to our just and equal liberty with the Adversaries so as to engage on even ground we are ready to argue it with them when and where they will but till then it is unreasonable for every word we speak may be a snare to us O P. I know not what snare may be in this Are you so afraid of Snares what need you fear that will speak so boldly Ro. I blesse the Lord I fear them not nor the force of any men or Devils in these matters of my Faith and Conscience for which I suffer yet I should be loath to run into Snares which Disputes have been to the people of God for Stephen Acts 6. before he was tryed for his life he was first ensnared by Disputes and then brought to the Councel tryed and arraigned for his life and they murthered and destroyed him and in Queen Maries dayes before they put any to death they begun it cunningly with ensnaring discourses in the Convocation-house and so gathered matter to take their lives away and murther them O P. You are afraid of Snares and advantages taken for your life when there is no such thing but I tell you upon your Friends Petition I sent for you to saisfie them that you suffer as an evil-doer Ro. Say you so my Lord that is more than ever I heard before nor dare I take this liberty upon that account of Petitioning for it but that I believe the Lord will help me by his own Spirit to answer as indeed I have not studied a Form of words for you though you have prepared Matter * That they seemed to do all this in justice and by appeal and free Courts At this they were next and look on one another against me I hear but I am in the strongth of the anointing ready to answer O. was troubled at that word and said Preparation ha what but it is well known what for several dayes were the Informations some lay on the Table a gathering against him and the prisoners put in for plotting had by one Measie a Charge to get all their papers reade upon the 30. day of the 11. month last who were very busie to get them and are we bear a gathering more for when Mr. Rogers is forced to preach out at the Window to the Members of the Church and those that come to bear him these wicked and bloody beast-like men have liberty to come into a room under him to write what they can catch or forge or patch together though all the week long they are in an other room at the further end of the house day and night singing swearing ranting drinking fidling blaspheming day and night to go out in the night yea without a Keeper to carry on the designe O.P. Ab we know you are ready enough Ro. Yea although I have made no other preparation than Faith in the promises however some may scoffe at them yet I have I blesse the Lord the comfort of them and hope I shall have the benefit of that promise which I have the Seal of in my heart in Mat. 10. Take no care what to say for in that houre shall it be given unto you therefore I doubt not but to speak to you and them about you in the name of the Lord Jesus and in the demonstration of his holy Spirit be was interrupted O.P. Take head you do not abuse the Scripture if you be such a Disciple then that promise shall be made good unto you and then you may say you suffer for Christ Ro. I doubt not but that will appear that I am his Disciple who made me that promise and if we be not able to make it out to unbyassed man that we suffer for Christ and a good conscience sake by Gods holy word then chop off my h●ad but indeed my Lord we can clear it to all the World would they hear us and not handle us so roughly as you do for we have had a very dangerous passage to you this day an ardua via through Swords and Halberds O. P. Indeed sayes he 〈◊〉 a scoffe and I pray who was wounded Ro. It was a mercy there were no more hurt though many were bruised beaten and hurt and among others my Wife but who the rest be as yet I know not O. P. No so I think but I have no time to dispute those things Ro. Why then I say as I said before my way must

accusing the good * So that the accusers of she good and grace of God is on that side by the informers and persecutors or grace of God but not for accusing evil or declaring against sin the evils of Apostacy persecution or the like but if you will read the Articles you may yet expect not a word of answer from me unlesse it be in an open and legal Court before a competent and fit Judge which you are not my Lord nor those about you but those things which are my due Right granted I am ready to answer them in Westminster-Hall where I believe the Lords remnant who are one with me in this caus will stand by me and at last you can have but a poor carcasse that is every day dying yet I am resolved with the help of God not to throw a way my life nor to betray this blessed cause so as to answer to I know not what Spurious and forged informations or charge in a Chamber grounded on malice or that which is worse nor will I be tried in Hugger-mugger but if I have offended it is fit I should have open Justice O.P. Who tries you and who sayes it is a Charge who calls it a charge I say not so and see before you bear them you call them Spurious with that he takes up one that was titled from Lambeth and was going to read somewhat One Abdy the chief informer that very day be came with his Keeper to look for his reward he was stabbed in Fleetstreet being imprisoned for Blasphe any Adultery Ranting Atheisme and the most horrid sins that ever were beard of R. Yea and I have good grounds so to do seeing they come from such kind of Informers as they are Then O.P. read one Article from Lambeth as that he should call him Oliver Cromwel that great dragon that fits at Whitehall pull him cut c. Ro. There is such stuffe as I abhor to have in my mouth but I shall for bear to answer and for that it is not worth the answering to O.P. These things will be proved B.H. One of the Twelve We desire the things our Brother Rogers suffers for may be publickly known to all for we apprehend he suffers for the Truth and the things which you hear you may that be misinformed in Ro. Therefore let me have a fair Hearing in a legal Court and I hope the Lord wil make me ready for what ever I must suffer right or wrong if it must be so but yet I tell you my Lord I fear not any thing that you can lay against me justly and honestly but the truth is you take up any thing that your Informers can handsomely patch together who like the devil take a bit here and a bit there that makes for their turn and you take it as it lies for granted presently O my Lord I cannot but mourn for you and your condition which is sad and to be bewailed and the rather for that you have so many about you who for their own ends to get the world into their hands do deceive you but the Lord will judge righteously ere long I am sure and let appear whether you or we have the best bottome to bear us up for I blesse the Lord the comforter is with me I think my condition through grace though a poor prisoner a great deal better than yours I would not change with you O.P. Well well you are known well enough and what spirit you are of we know you and to call your sufferings for Christ when they are for evil-doing is not wel yea it is blaspemy yea I say blasphemy again for all your * M. Rog. amazed at such language again lifted up his band and eys towards heaven appealing to God to judg righteously lifting up of your eys and I tell you yea you that in a good box of ointment a little thing a dead flie may spoil all yea a little flye Ro. I dare not my Lord justifie my self in my infirmities but I blesse the Lord I can apply Christs merits I beseech you speak not so reproachfully of the spirit of God to call it fanatick or an evil-spirit for that is blasphemy so to do see Isa 63.10 neither call evil good or good evil for that is prevarication Isa 5.20 that which you judge Evil-doing the Lord judgeth well doing and my duty yet I must tell you the Lord never made you a Judge over our Faith nor of his Scripture whereof you take upon you O P. Well you know that the time was there was no great difference betwixt you and me I had you in my ey and did think of you for imployment and preferment you know it well enough Ro. True my Lord and then you could say to me you thought no man in England so fit but since the case is altered indeed but I pray consider who it is is changed surely it must be conscience that makes me suffer then through so many temptations as I have met with and I have often said let me be convinced by good words that I am an Evil-doer as you said and I would lay my Neck under you feet for mercy but till then I must keep my conscience One of the Grandees as we take it it was G. Desborough saies let the Informations be read let them be heard and then Scobell was called to read them not those from Lambeth but those that were * brought in from Tho. Apostle The Informations from Tho. Apostles read from what Mr. Rogers prayed what he preached and what they sang in Hymnes what he prayed was for the Prisoners of the Lord at Winsor and against the Tyranny of all Antichristian Powers and to that purpose and that God would hasten his Vials out upon them What he preached was out of Mat. 5. Agree with thine adversay Christ quickly The Articles against Mr Ro as well as they could be taken and be observed Appostateadulterate professors must agree quickly with Christ their Adversary applying it to the present Powers as such proving they break the 10. Commandements As the 1. In setting up Idols again a golden Calf so the Army and fleshly strength and the like are idolized whilest men say these are the gods that brought us up out of Egypt 2. Command is Graven images and so are the Tryers and high Court Commissioners such the inventions and graven images of mens making with their Seals Parchments black boxes and pick-locks * These Articles are many of them sals for matter and form as can be made appear by hundreds Padlocks and Keys for your Hog-sties Pig sties and Goose-stals 3. Command Take not my name in vain c. Such as have broke all their Declarations Ingagements and abused his Attributes using that name of God for their own ends are guilty of this 4. Command Remember that thou keep holy the c. speaking of soul-soul-rest and saying that the present Powers kept not the Sabbath

that rested in their pleasures slesh c. and not in Christ but did their own work 5. Command Honour thy father and mother c. They brake this commandement in their disobedience to God the heavenly Father 6. Thou shalt not murther c. Murtherers are of many sorts such as have betraied the Blood that hath been shed against this kind of Government c. And then he converted his discourse against Informers that come for blood said to hate a brother without a cause is murder 7. Thou shalt not commit adultery c. This they did with others as Army Lawyers Priests interest and that which they before destroyed 8. Steal not Now there are great thieves and little thieves great ones are now in present Powers and Army thieves Clergy thieves Lawyers thieves and the great thief now in White-hall But the other two he left to another time When he had done he read a Letter from Mr. Feak where was a Dialogue between him and the Governor and then he commented upon it and said It is worse now then it was with the Romans for then Paul might preach though a Prisoner but now we are * Now is Mr. Rogers forced to preach out at the iron bars of the prison on Lordsdaies denied it After that he sung an Hymne and the people joyned with great alacrity against oppression and persecution c. After this Information was read Mr. Rogers said My Lord I had a purpose not to answer one word hereto this being no sutable place or time to answer a charge and no witnesses appearing against me to make it good but yet I shall tell you this for I will not with the Lords help speak a word but what I will own to your face for I love to appear in the sincerity of my soul and conscience for my Lord and Master Jesus Christ plain to all men and to lay open my principles which I have no cause though grace to be ashamed of the matter of this is much of it true but as to the form there is a great deal of patching botching put in by your mercenary hirelings which I will not own but as to much of the matter of it I must dare and with the Lords grace I will though I dy for it and without you should cut my tongue out of my head I shal continue the testimony up and tell you moreover with the rest about you here that I regard your laws in the matters of my God no more than straws for Imperia Divina non sunt subjecta Magistratui saith one of the Martyrs and tell you that I will not be accomptable to the Magistrate nor submit to his judgment in the matters of my Faith which the Civil law can take no due cognizance of One of his Councel said Ha! Imperia Divina Ro. So I say Imperia Divina O.P. Saith he are these spurious Articles now put in by drunkards and swearers and whoremongers too are they not Ha! Ha! Ro. My Lord They would fain have shisted off them from Lambeth as it seems as if they were ashamed of them I know what I say Those which were sent from Lambeth put in by the Prisoners there those I say a●e such I did not say all but those that I see there which lie upon the Table titled from Lambeth and besides there is Serjeant Dendy knows this that I say for hehimself I thank him sent in their Informations against me to M. Thurloe which he cannot deny S. Dendy I delivered him none my Lord. Ro. I say not you delivered them but you sent them by your man who delivered them according to your directions S. Dendy But my Mother my Lord this was my Mother for she Catechized me my Lord and I told her Ro. So that is true as I said before that those from Lambeth-prison are spurious wicked illegal Mr. Cre. Pray my Lord let M. Rogers have a copy of his charge for the law allows it him O.P. No this is not his tryal Ro. Why then let me have it as you are a Christian for is it fit I be denied a sight of my accusation against me but be turned away and would not hear M.Cre. Then my Lord let us have liberty of conscience will you not give us so much liberty as the Parliament gave with that he turn'd about in anger O.P. I tell you there was never such liberty of conscience no never such liberty since the dayes of * He confessed that Antichrists government is now up in England yet so that no wonder the Prisons are so full of precious Saints Antichrist as is now for may not men preach and pray what they will And have not men their liberty of all opinions Ro. It is true there is liberty enough and too much too for drunkards swearers and men of vile debauched principles and evil lives Common-prayer-men and such like we know round the Nation then his creatures about him scoffed O.P. Ha! Are Drunkennesse Swearing opinions then Ro. I say not so but I say such men may have their opinions whiles we are persecuted for the truth But why do you not my Lord let out my brother Feak at Windsor with my self seeing we suffer in one cause for one testimony and I trust by one Spirit of Jesus Christ let us both out to answer for our selves joyntly together and to make it appear to all uninteressed Christians that we are no evill doers in the matters we suffer for which if we do not then let us suffer O.P. M Feak truly M Feak I think lesse evill may be said of him than of you but there are many of different opinions that come to me and they know they have all their liberty of their opinions Ro. Yea every man almost that talks with you is apt to think you of his opinion my Lord what ever he be his creatures scoffed again O.P. Nay you * But some of that opinion do as Mr. T.G. and others do not saith he in anger his creatures scoffed and laughed again Ro. Some of this Judgment do think you so although as I said before the the Privative or negative part of the Testimony you cannot bear O.P. Pish here is a deal of positive and privative to shew you are a Scholer and 't is well known what you are and where do you find that distinction They thought Mr. Rogers to be an antick because he spake in power and goeat zeal Ro. In Logick O.P. Ha! Ro. I must tell you in the Name of the Lord Jehovah that your condition is very desperate and if you consult the holy oracles you will find it for the next vial which is to be poured out is the scorching hot one and must fall upon the Apostate professours that have forsaken and betrayed the cause of Christ and look to it it is like to fall heavy upon your heads and those that are about you I pray think of that in Hosea 1.4 the