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A75414 An Answer to a scandalous paper, wherein were some queries given to be answered. And likewise, therein is found many lies and slanders, and false accusations against those people whom he (and the world) calls Quakers. Dated from Dorchester in New-England, August 17. 1655. subscribed, Edward Breck, which was directed to a people at Rainforth in Lancashire, which he calls, A church of Christ. The truth is cleared of his scandalls, lies, and slanders, and he found to bee a reproacher of the Church of Christ. His paper and quæries answered by those people called, Quakers. 1656 (1656) Wing A3345A; Thomason E875_4; ESTC R206566 30,171 38

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Apostles and all the Holy men of God that ever was taught by the Spirit of God all that is guided by that one and the same spirit we do witness and own and all that have that same spirit to lead and guide them to the living God who is a Spirit wil own and witness us to be of God and our Testimony to be true and this shall be answered by that of God in all consciences And whereas thou speaks severall times of the Institutions and Ordinances of Christ answer The Ordinances and Institutions of Christ we own and witness and honour and his Commands arc not grievons but joyous but thou that speaks these words hath made thy self manifest to deny the Ordinances of Christ and his Institutions and art ignorant of them what they are when thou cometh to name them thou names Sabboths and Sacraments and for the Ministry and Magistracy which thou speaks of we have answered that before yet this I say to thee more That those Ministers which were ordained by Christ did not preach for Hire Christ Jesus bare witness against the Hireling and called him a Thief and a Robber now see if thy Ministers which thou speaks for be not such and then see if thou do not blaspheme Christ in saying that he ordained such as he called Thieves and Robbers which are Hirelings which flies because they are Hirelings those whom he ordained and sent forth were sent forth freely who had received freely of him and freely they did give they did not go in the way of Cain to envy nor run greedily after the error of Balaam for gifts and rewards Now see if those Ministers which thou speaks of be not such where did ever Christ ordain them or when did they receive a Commission but whom he ordained did preach the Gospel freely to every creature and had a Commission from him to baptize all Nations in the Nome of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost doth thy Ministers that thou speak of so Read the Scriptures honestly and see whether Christ ordained any but such as had an immediate command and Revelation from him and such received power from above to go teach all Nations Now see whether these Ministers thou speaks of will own this commission or witness it and if they cannot then thou art he that blasphemeth Chritt and defames his Truth which is pure which will not admit of any decit nor guile And for that thou speaks of Sabboths here thou art denying Christ for where he is known and witnessed to be come he is the end of the Sabbath and the rest of his people and what Scripture hast thou which saith that Christ ordained a day to be kept as a Sabbath wilt thou belye Christ Jesus to say he hath ordained a sabbath-Sabbath-day which he putteth an end to Here let all read the Scriptures and try thee and thy Ordinances that thou pleads so for the Son of man is the Lord of the Sabboth If thou have an ear thou may hear or an eye thou may see but thou art blinde and yet hath eyes and deaf and yet hath ears And for thy Sacraments which thou calls an Ordinance of Christ this is an Ordinance of thy own making which thou hath no Scripture for at all wilt thou say that Christ ordained a Sacrament when there is no Scripture for it Oh that thou should be so blinde and yet will take upon the to exhort as thou saith the Church of Christ but surely the Church of Christ knows the Ordinances of God better then thou dost for thy Ordinances is beggarly Rudiments which are but commandments and doctrines of men but it is little with thee to call them the Ordinances of God who art so far by the Truth as thou art in all thy Paper throughout But those who are dead with Christ from the Rudiments of the world cannot be subject to thy Ordinances for the Apostle exhorts from them and saith Touch not tast not handle not which are all to perish with the using of them and his exhortation we own and cleave to and keep his Ordinances as he delivered them to us and thine we do deny but the Ordinances of Christ Jesus we live in according to the Scrptures and all the Saints in Light that ever went before us for heis our peace who hath made both one and broken down the partition Wall betwixt us and hath abolished in his flesh the enmity even the Law of Commandments contained in Ordinances for to make himself of twain one New Man so making peace and that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the Cross having slain the enmity thereby but where this enmity stand unslain which is far off and not washed and made nigh by his blood here the Ordinances of men is set up and called the Ordinances of God who are without Christ being aliens from the Common-wealth of Israel and Strangers from the Covenant of Promise not being washed and cleansed and purged by his blood which maketh nigh and taketh away the partition-Wall and makes of twain one New Man Now if thou or any of you do witness this condition then do you know and live in the Ordinances of Christ but if you be dead in your fins and the uncircumcision of your flesh then hath he not blotted out the hand-writing of Ordinances and hath not taken it away nailing it to his Cross Now see whether ye be here or no or else ever talk of the Ordinances of God but let them be as indeed and in truth they are the Ordinances of men and in the mean time so long as thou art ignorant of these things and of the workings and operation of the living Spirit and power of the living God so long as thou knows nothing but what thou knows naturally beware how thou speaketh of trances and quakings and such expressions least thou blaspheme against God for the living God nor his power nor working thou knows not therefore be silent and beware how thou judges with evill thoughts that which thou knows not for in that thou corrupts thy self and art found to be one of those filthy dreamers which defiles the flesh despiss dominivn and speak evill of dignities and so as I said before bring thy self under the wo. And so beware and fear and dread the living God who is a consuming fire to his Enemies and before him thou cannot stand with thy filthy stuff which thou hast raked together his jelousie burns like fire and this wil be as stubble before him Therefore see what thou hast that will abide the fire for nothing will stand in his presence but what will answer to the fire and this thou shalt eternally witness to be truth and love to thy soul And the spirit which speakcth in us is one and the same yesterday to day and for ever and that spirit which doth not speak the same we do deny and the judgement which thou judgeth we do deny