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Wisdom justified of her children from the ignorance and calumny of H. Hallywell in his book called, An account of familism as it is revived and propagated by the Quakers / by William Penn.
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Penn, William, 1644-1718.
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the Vine untill that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's Kingdom And I query if that was not made good on the Day of Pentecost when scoffingly yet truly like Caiaphas in another case several Spectators said of the Disciples They were full of New Wine which was the beginning of the Restauration of that Kingdom of God to Israel that the Disciples a little before so weakly queried after In short The Father's Kingdom is within Luk. 17.20 What was that Fruit then that was to be drunk anew in that Kingdom Certainly it came from himself the true Vine and must be of a Spiritual and Inward Nature like to the Kingdom To conclude If Bread and Wine be but a Sign And if things signified ought to resemble their Signs And if Spiritual Bread and Wine mostly answer those Visible Signs And if they are to be had in the Kingdom of God And if the Kingdom of God be within And that who eat not that Bread and drink not that Wine have no Life in them Then because the Apostles had Life Eternal in them and we a measure of the same in us Christ the Heavenly Bread and Flesh and Wine Blood was then and is now come and consequently the Shadows of those good things as to any Institution were and are at an End And as there is but One Spirit and One Lord One Faith One Baptism One God and Father One Heavenly Kingdom One Holy Body So but One Bread and but One Cup and but One Communion and Fellowship and that is with the Father and the Son by the Holy Ghost But here as in the case of Water-Baptism it will be objected why were they then afterwards used Answ The Practices of good Men though in things temporary are many times to greedily received and too long doted upon by those who desire to be reputed their Followers Any thing once becoming customary is hard to be left Several Jewish Ceremonies the Holy-Ghost thought fit to be dispensed with for a Season that were never to be perpetuated But what has our Adversary and the several sorts of Protestants in the World to do with Baptism and the Supper and deny that Qualification and Commission the Apostles had They will never stand our Enquiry about their Call which they know we have great Cause to scruple indeed to deny For all must or should know that it was either Immediate or Mediate and Successive If Immediate then they must necessarily confess to a Commission upon Inspiration then Quakers If Mediate and Successive then either beside the Church of Rome or through the Church of Rome Not beside the Church of Rome because she cannot prove any regular Ordination or uninterrupted Succession either as to Faith or Discipline If through the Church of Rome then they own the Ordination of a Church they renounce and grant Her the Keyes whom they have writ against for these six score Years under the Name of Whore of Babylon and Mother of Harlots and all Abominations of the Earth Can that which you account a corrupt Fountain bring forth clean Streams Will Men seek Ordination at the hands of that Church they resolve to employ it against Has she forfeited her Religion and not her Power When did ever God make over his Authority by such an Entail If Mens Errors and Vices do not un-minister them It will follow that they may be Ill Christians but very good Ministers For Shame never renounce the Roman Church as False if her Ordination must be True For what has Power to make a Minister must be allowed to have Power both to instruct and conclude him in what he is to minister Wherefore never let any own her to have Heaven's Keyes of Church-Authority and then deny her as Heretical For where-ever any Church or People are truly such that Church or People have thereby forfeited all Right thereunto And as the contrary Opinion has long enricht the Popes Coffers so the Unwary Concessions of some certain Protestants thereto have too evidently given away a great share of that good old Cause I have dwelt longer upon these Particulars then my Adversary's Weakness could deserve at my Hands but their Information hath induced me to it who are assaulted by the envious Endeavours of our several Adversaries that daily seek how to mis-represent us and our most Evangelical Principles CHAP. IV. His third Chapter examined which consists of the Holiness of Times Places Things and Persons under the Gospel §. 1. Of the Sabbath-Day His Accusation is that these Familists and Quakers put no Difference between one Day and another the Sabbath no more then another Day That many times they follow their usual Trades on a Sunday Answ What the Familists did is nothing to us if they did so But sure I am he has abused the Quakers For 't is well known that in what Country soever they live they follow the Practice of the Apostles in Assembling together on the first Day of the Week They do it constantly and reverently Who most prophane that Day the Quakers or the Sons and Daughters of the Church of England Their Feasts Drunkenness Wantonness Gaming and other Recreations as they call them are so many Demonstrations to help every common Understanding to a Resolution in the Point And to say That we many times follow our usual Trades on that Day is a plain Untruth the whole World knows better though we do not Judaize For Worship was not made for Time but Time for Worship Nor is there any Day Holy of it self though Holy things may be performed upon a Day But he tells us yes For the fourth Commandment being as Moral as the rest and that requiring a sabbath-Sabbath-Day the sabbath-Sabbath-Day is perpetual also Answ But this hurts us not since the Jewish Sabbath is not observed by the Church of England But if a Sabbath-Day be Moral because mentioned in the fourth Commandment Then because the Jews seventh-day-Sabbath is there particularly mentioned Their Sabbath must be only Moral and consequently Unalterable But he sayes No For that the Apostles and succeeding Church of God may very reasonably dispose of us in matters of this Nature And it is obligatory from the Ten Commandments every one of which is moral and binds all Christians still and therefore the Church of England though these rebellious Quakers disown their Mother doth make it part of her Liturgy Answ If it be as Moral as all the rest as it must be if it be Moral because of its being there they could no more dispense with it then with any of the other Commandments To call that Day Moral and make it Alterable is Ridiculous 'T is true the Apostles met upon the First Day and not on the Seventh but as that released us from any pretended Morality of the Seventh so neither did it confer any Morality upon the First yea so far were they from it that not one speaks any such thing but Paul much the
Passage cited But he thinks G.F. has made much for his Purpose who in his Great Mystery p. 207 210. saith Christ is not distinct from the Saints and he that eats the Flesh of Christ hath it within him And what of all this Is Christ divided from his Saints Was he not in them of Old the Hope of Glory He that 's with you shall be in you And at that day ye shall know that I am in my Father and you in me and I in you For the other Part I wonder he cited it Certain it is That unless Men eat the Flesh of Christ they have no Life in them Now how a Man can be said to eat any thing and not have it within him is a Distinction past my Understanding But Geo. Fox saith p. 206. If there be any Christ but He that was crucified within he is a False Christ and He that hath him not within is a Reprobate Answ Our Return to this will be very short 1st By Christ crucified within he does not deny that he was once crucified without as the same Page proveth as our Adversary would insinuate 2ly There can be no False Doctrine in it unless the owning of Christ being crucified within through Wicked Works necessarily should imply our Denying that he was ever crucify'd without from the Danger of which Consequence the Scriptures of Truth sufficiently secure us Heb. 6.6 Seeing they crucify'd to themselves the Son of God afresh Also Rev. 11.18 3ly And that such are Reprobates in whom He lives not remember that unanswerable Passage 2 Cor. 13.5 Examin your selves whether you be in the Faith prove your own selves know you not your own selves how that Jesus Christ is IN YOU except you be Reprobates But sayes our Adversary Ric. Stubbs a Quakeâ— told Eliz. Wetherly That the Jesus who was born of the Virgin and dyed at Jerusalem was a False Christ and an Antichrist But this needs no long Answer for it is an absolute Untruth raised by the Devil within and his Envious Emissaries without to bring us the poor despised People of God into Infamy with all who have any Reverence for the Name of Christ And God will plead our Innocency in this Mans Conscience by that Holy Light which he blasphemously saith leads down to Hell and the Devil carrying Man like an Ignis Fatuus into Bogs and Ditches causing him at last to fall into the Pit of everlasting Destruction For this I would have all the World to know that God Who is the Searcher of the Heart and Tryer of the Reins who alone sheweth unto Man his Thoughts is the great Spiritual Light John 1.1 â— And 't is as such â—hat he setteth Man's Sins in order before him as saith the Apostle Whatsoever makes manifest is Light Ephes 5.13 And saith the same Apostle Whatsoever may be known of God is manifest within men for God hath shewed it unto them Rom. 1.19 Such as bring their Deeds unto this Light may know whether they are wrought in God or no. And for this End hath the Eternal Word enlightened every Man that cometh into the World that he may come to the Light and walk and grow up in it For as all have given unto them out of his Fulness Grace for Grace so from his Fulness of Light hath he given all Men Light for Light not a meer natural Capacity or creaturely Understanding but that Divine Light or Grâ—ce which is able to teach sanctifie and govern the Soul to God's Glory and its own Everlasting Happiness In the Word by whom all things were made was Life and that Life was the Light of Men And as it was then so is it now the Condemnation of the World that Men love Darkness rather then Light because their Deeds are Evil. Some with the Pharisee prefer their Formal Literal and Ceremonial Religion and Others their Pleasures Pastimes Worldly Honour and Profit before this Inward Pure Light and Law of the Spirit of Life the Leaveâ— of the Kingdom and Truth in the inward Parts which frees from Sin and brings into the Heavenly Liberty of the Sons of God And we do testifie in the Name of God that it is only by this Measure of that Divine Fulness which above One Thousand Six Hundred Years ago was manifested in the Flesh that any Man or Woman can ever come to a right Sight Sense Relish and Enjoyment of the Blessed End and Effects of his Gracious Appearance Heavenly Gospel Mighty Miracles Holy Life Death and Sufferings his Powerful Resurrection Glorious Ascension and Constant Mediation and Intercession And that all Knowledge Faith and Worship not grounded upon this internal Sight Sense and Operation of this Divine Measure of Grace Light and Truth in the Inward Parts are but Historical and Pharisaical making up but the Jew outward and Christian outward who are not Children of the Free-Woman nor Heirs according to the Promise And if for this blessed Testimony we must be thus abused defamed and set at nought by the Black-robed-Rabbies of this World as they did against the Prophets and Christ God will be our abundant Recompence who is the Author of that Good Reformation begun and will I hope be the Finisher of it to his own Immortal Honour and our Unutterable Rejoycing World without End CHAP. VIII Of some of our Adversary's Lyes and Slanders HIs next Chapter containing a short Account of the Quakers Pretences to Immediate Revelations hath been already effectually considered only I shall take notice of two or three Particulars First That he would have the Sadness and Dejection of those that turn Quakers and the Zeal and Fluency of those that Preach among them to be the Effect of the Hypochondria Answ This shews what an easie Religion our Adversary lives in who yet knows not the Terrors of the Lord How unfit is he to Warn Men He that ever knew God's Word to be as a Sword an Hammer an Ax a Consuming Fire and Everlasting Burnings against Sin and Iniquity the Pangs of a New Birth and how hard it is to become a True Disciple through the dâ—ily Cross he would never have made such a frothy dark and envious Construction of our serious Convictions But God's Fire will one day burn up his peaceable Habitation and in that Day of Alarm he and the rest of his Jâ—vial Crew shall know the Meaning of these Words They that pierced him shall see him and all the Kindreds of the Earth shall wail because of him But whatever Disease we have his frequent and sensless Scoffs at us and our Holy Way shew that the Spleen is very prevalent in him For his Reflection on Edw. Burroughs it will do him no Harm his Soul is with God and his Memory shall out-live his Enemies Hate And for this Ranting Scribbler he is not worthy to carry his Books after him For his Gentle-man of New-Castle who affirmed Some Quakers came to Kendal Church and said They had a