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A53660 A plea for Scripture ordination, or, Ten arguments from Scripture and antiquity proving ordination by presbyters without bishops to be valid by J.O. ... ; to which is prefixt an epistle by the Reverend Mr. Daniel Williams. Owen, James, 1654-1706.; Williams, Daniel, 1643?-1716. 1694 (1694) Wing O708; ESTC R32194 71,514 212

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